Finally got a 2240

Started by Swoab47, November 15, 2020, 03:06:13 AM

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Swoab47

It finally showed up!

Got a 2240XL from Pyramid Air and man is it sweet!

I am super impressed with the feel of the gun and the build quality.   Of course the grips are cheap plastic but you have to cut corners somewhere to keep things affordable.   The trigger feels really nice and I'm sure that with the help of this forum and its resources I can get that trigger a whole lot nicer.

I ordered the $12 Crosman red dot sight to top off the 2240 and it is actually a pretty decent piece for the money.

I shot it about 8 times at 10 yards to get it zeroed in and then plinked some tin cans and golf balls at 10 yards with CPHP and it was almost too easy...

I also ordered a 1322 for a friend and I pulled it out of the package and ran it over the chrony for him.  I was super impressed with it as well and will definitely be getting one in the future.


So without doing a deep dive, I figured I would ask y'all what are some of the "must do" mods on these guns? 

I'm thinking some trigger work and a power adjuster would be a good place to start.

I am happy with the power I get out of it, but I wouldn't mind being able to turn it down a bit for plinking.

Also I got a LDC from Airgun Universe and it quiets it down nicely.

Looking forward to hearing from you guys.

DHunter

Quote from: Swoab47 on November 15, 2020, 03:06:13 AM
I also ordered a 1322 for a friend and I pulled it out of the package and ran it over the chrony for him.  I was super impressed with it as well and will definitely be getting one in the future.

This might be getting a bit off-topic right away; but since you mentioned it,

  • what numbers did you get on the chrony,
  • and with what weight of pellets,
  • and how did the 1322 compare to the 2240,
  • and and how many pumps on the 1322 for the various numbers?

farrlarr

In addition to what you have already decided might be needed, get a steel breech.  Beyond that, shoot the heck out of the pistol and only then decide what else you want to do.  Changing parts randomly is just playing for the heck of it.  Find out what you like about the pistol and what you don't like, based on real experience with it, and then settle on changes.
Larry in Idaho

"A man's got to know his limitations."

schnoo

#3
2240XL comes with steel breech as standard doesn't it?

Extended probe and hi-flow transfer port are good and easy upgrades.

farrlarr

Quote from: schnoo on November 15, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
2240XL comes with steel breech as standard doesn't it?

You're right!  That's what I get for not reading the OP carefully; I didn't notice that he had gotten an XL.
Larry in Idaho

"A man's got to know his limitations."

BillK

Power adjuster from Chas Mellon  https://mellonair.myfreesites.net/power-adjusters
and solid hammer to go with a 1701P trigger group.  https://mellonair.myfreesites.net/odds-ends
IMHO the Crosman 1701P trigger group (2220-103)  is the best value for $ spent for a trigger upgrade.
If you just want a "good" triggered plinker there are a number of video's showing how to smooth the trigger & sear and lighten the sear spring.  All well & good, but not to the quality of the 1701P group.
Just depends on what you want/need.  Any one is a much needed & noticeable upgrade.
West Michigan
Crosman Nitro Venom .22
Crosman 760 - 782 - 1077
Sheridan S S - H - E9
Benjamin NP pistol - Disco - Prod
MIC B1 .177
2300S - 2300T - 2400kt
1740 - 2240 - 2250 - 1760 - 2260 - 1701P
1322 - 1377
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rangerfredbob

If going for cheap mods for just tinkering time, on the trigger I would find a .22lr casing and put it in the sear spring and over compress the sear spring in fingers or pliers until it has about 1/8" of preload in the uncocked condition. It's way more work to cut the spring than simply over compressing it, and more wire with less length makes for a softer spring.

If you want some cheap nice feeling grip panels look up the ones for the marauder pistol or the 1701, last time I bought some they were like $2 a panel...
Near McMinnville, Oregon

Have me many an airgun :), count is 102 now...

Swoab47

Quote from: DHunter on November 15, 2020, 03:14:25 AM
This might be getting a bit off-topic right away; but since you mentioned it,

  • what numbers did you get on the chrony,
  • and with what weight of pellets,
  • and how did the 1322 compare to the 2240,
  • and and how many pumps on the 1322 for the various numbers?

Here are a couple of shot strings.

1322 with CPHP 14.3 gr.
3, 5, 8 and 10 pumps.
Notes
Pellet:Crosman PHP
Weight: 14.3

Shot count: 8
Low: 290
Hi: 463
Avg: 390
STD Dev: 66.4
Spread: 173.0

11/6/20 10:14:27 AM,290
11/6/20 10:14:45 AM,294
11/6/20 10:15:02 AM,365
11/6/20 10:15:16 AM,370
11/6/20 10:15:35 AM,434
11/6/20 10:15:53 AM,441
11/6/20 10:16:52 AM,462
11/6/20 10:17:09 AM,463

2240XL fresh co2@75°F
CPHP 14.3 GR

Notes
Pellet:Crosman PHP
Weight: 14.3

Shot count: 5
Low: 414
Hi: 428
Avg: 420
STD Dev: 5.2
Spread: 14.0

11/6/20 10:09:12 AM,428
11/6/20 10:09:25 AM,423
11/6/20 10:09:38 AM,419
11/6/20 10:09:49 AM,414
11/6/20 10:10:00 AM,415

Thank you to everyone that replied so far.

Can't wait to keep plinking and start tinkering.

hguns

What barrel does the 2240XL have? Seems kid of slow.

DHunter

Quote from: Swoab47 on November 17, 2020, 07:01:48 PM
Here are a couple of shot strings.

Thanks.  So it looks like the 2240 has the power of a 1322 at approximately 7 pumps, at least at your elevation and temperature.

Swoab47

Quote from: hguns on November 18, 2020, 05:14:02 AM
What barrel does the 2240XL have? Seems kid of slow.

Pretty sure it is just a Crosman barrel.  My best guess is that it is about 7 inches from bolt probe to the threaded muzzel...

In your opinion what fps should it be getting??

It is bone stock, and 75° is at the very bottom end of where co2 works as a propellant.

I figured if I was shooting at 85-90° it would be very close to the factory claim of 460fps.

Keep the comments coming!  I enjoy learning from you guys!!

KevinP

the factory claim of 460fps in stock form is mostly wishful thinking.
It is usually based on using very light pellets.

You should expect at least 50 fps less sometimes more..

In my option if it hits where you want it to, it's just fine

If you are wanting to take out a gray at 20 yds, it will do the job
just fine at 380 fps ( shot placement is everything )
Kevin
Albany, New York

farrlarr

Quote from: Swoab47 on November 18, 2020, 07:58:27 PM

It is bone stock, and 75° is at the very bottom end of where co2 works as a propellant.


You are limiting yourself considerably if you shoot only above 75F because of accuracy/fps concerns.  It is generally accepted that CO2 guns work well at anything above about 65F or so (up to temps where overpressure occurs and the valve locks).  Some have indicated that performance doesn't really drop off until 40F but I think that is stretching things quite a lot.  There is lots of information online about CO2 airguns and temperature effects.
Larry in Idaho

"A man's got to know his limitations."

KevinP

The trick of shooting in the cold is to keep the co2 warm.
I shoot all the time when it's cold  out. I keep the gun under my coat
till I'm ready to shoot.... I keep spare co2 in my  pocket ...

If I'm on the patio I have a heater next to my shooting table.
It keeps me and gun toasty warm ...

Setting that up now for the winter...

or I will just shoot out the window it it's to nasty out ....

Kevin
Albany, New York

Swoab47

As I stated before, I am happy with the performance out of the box.  I have other guns for taking out pests in my garden.  This one is just for fun.