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MUZZLE VELOCITY QUESTION

Started by Themajickman, November 24, 2011, 04:39:30 PM

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Themajickman

Mounted the sight on the Ruger (needed a 3/8" dovetail to Weaver adapter). The weather is kind of crummy so we haven't had a chance to dial it in yet. 

Crosman 2300KT: .177  10.1" :  Black muzzle brake: Long Steel breech & Bolt - Shoulder Stock
Ruger Mark I: .177 Break Barrel pistol
Smith & Wesson 78g
Crosman Phantom 1000

I'm paralyzed from the neck down so my wife does all the shooting! I'm still the ringleader (voice control technology rocks!) and keep getting myself new toys for her to shoot.....I live my life through her. :-)

1377x

Quote from: Themajickman on November 28, 2011, 11:32:13 PM
Mounted the sight on the Ruger (needed a 3/8" dovetail to Weaver adapter). The weather is kind of crummy so we haven't had a chance to dial it in yet.
please post pics when/if you can?
closed mouths dont get fed

Themajickman

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Tried to download some pictures but apparently they were too large. I've resized them and hopefully they can be seen. Also purchased a GREEN/red/laser scope but it is really dinky compared to the first one. Hopefully it will be usable. Still not able to get outside, snow in Georgia, who would guess.
Crosman 2300KT: .177  10.1" :  Black muzzle brake: Long Steel breech & Bolt - Shoulder Stock
Ruger Mark I: .177 Break Barrel pistol
Smith & Wesson 78g
Crosman Phantom 1000

I'm paralyzed from the neck down so my wife does all the shooting! I'm still the ringleader (voice control technology rocks!) and keep getting myself new toys for her to shoot.....I live my life through her. :-)

quickster47 †

Whew, big difference in the optics.

Carl

I've never wanted something so useless in my life.
In Omnia Paratus
1947-05-19 - 2016-07-14 †

Themajickman

I was really surprised to see the difference in size. The specifications are not online but it has unlimited eye relief and 1 M0A which I consider acceptable. Here is the website picture that I went by, you have no way of telling how big it is   :o
Crosman 2300KT: .177  10.1" :  Black muzzle brake: Long Steel breech & Bolt - Shoulder Stock
Ruger Mark I: .177 Break Barrel pistol
Smith & Wesson 78g
Crosman Phantom 1000

I'm paralyzed from the neck down so my wife does all the shooting! I'm still the ringleader (voice control technology rocks!) and keep getting myself new toys for her to shoot.....I live my life through her. :-)

1377x

nice!
get any range time in yet?
closed mouths dont get fed

quickster47 †

With no scale reference you have no idea what you are getting.  Even the dimensions are sometimes misleading.

Carl

I've never wanted something so useless in my life.
In Omnia Paratus
1947-05-19 - 2016-07-14 †

Smaug

Quote from: dpricenator on November 28, 2011, 06:38:21 PM
In alot of cases heavier and a bit slower still carries more energy.  I wouls not use PBA or lead free pellets in anyof my guns, if for no other reason than......if the technology was more than gimmick, the higher end pellets manufacturers would have begun doing it as well. 

I wouldn't yet call Skenco generally respected, but after trying their Pointed Poly Match, I'll be trying more of their offerings. Here's some lead-free ones that I'll try soon:
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Hyper_Velocity_Field_Pellets_Type_1_for_Standard_Guns_177_Cal_5_4_Grains_Pointed_Lead_Free_200ct/243


I do consider Beeman/H&N to be a high end pellet mfr though:
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Beeman_ECO_Field_Target_Special_177_Cal_5_56_Grains_Domed_Lead_Free_300ct/919

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Beeman_ECO_Kodiak_177_Cal_6_48_Grains_Domed_Lead_Free_300ct/921

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/H_N_Field_Target_Trophy_Green_177_Cal_Lead_Free_5_56_Grains_Domed_200ct/749

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/H_N_Baracuda_Green_Lead_Free_177_Cal_6_48_Grains_Round_Nose_200ct/842


RWS makes some high-end lead-free pellets:
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/RWS_HyperMAX_177_Cal_5_2_Grains_Pointed_Lead_Free_100ct/675


Granted, I'm not sure how well they'll shoot out of the more powerful guns. One would need to somehow get lead-free pellets that are heavy enough without being too long. Maybe some kind of polymer coated tungsten?
-Jeremy
"If it's worth doing, it's worth OVERdoing."
Crosman 66, 1377, 2300T, 1701P / Daisy 1200, 953, & 747 / Stoeger X20 / .177 Marauder / Archer AR2078 / Weihrauch HW30s / RWS 56

dpricenator

Fair enough. 

Maybe it speaks to my point, that i have never seem a hunting post that said, "Look at the damage these lead free pellets do".  Lead has been doing the trick since before this country was a country, so I'll stick with it. 

Smaug

Quote from: dpricenator on November 29, 2011, 07:14:13 PM
Fair enough. 

Maybe it speaks to my point, that i have never seem a hunting post that said, "Look at the damage these lead free pellets do".  Lead has been doing the trick since before this country was a country, so I'll stick with it.

Yep, fair point. I think most hunting is done with the higher power guns.

I was thinking of doing some hunting a while back with my stock 1377. Shoots 500 fps. I thought going to lighter pellets and getting another 150 fps might do the trick to flatten out the trajectory and a pointed pellet should still ensure adequate penetration on birds, rabbits, and squirrels, at least.

I never did try it, and I'm still torn on whether to go that route or the 7.3 gr. Exact RS pellets, which are more proven.

The only pellet and gun I've hunted with was the Crosman Premier Light out of my Stoeger X20 at about 920 fps. On a chipmunk. Texas heart shot. But not at all comparable to the above.
-Jeremy
"If it's worth doing, it's worth OVERdoing."
Crosman 66, 1377, 2300T, 1701P / Daisy 1200, 953, & 747 / Stoeger X20 / .177 Marauder / Archer AR2078 / Weihrauch HW30s / RWS 56