1377 Gripframe ID and Grip P/N (Curved Foward Grip Area) ????? Photo Heavy

Started by 0351_Vet, March 02, 2012, 05:57:50 PM

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0351_Vet

I started a new thread on this, because it's got be Buffalo'd.

I am trying to find / order a set of correct grips for this pistol and I can't seem to find any info.
(Almost like it was a production run between Phase I & Phase II)

The front of the grip frame is curved? I think it is Phase II from what I have seen?

Page 3 is what it looks like, but straight grips don't fit: http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/crosman/1377/C1377-EVP-1&2.pdf

I have tried all the grips I have an none have a curve to the front leading edge. Any help wound be appreciated.  :-*   :-*   :-*













In Photos 2 & 3 you can see the curvature of the front frame rail as compared to Photos 4 & 6.
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1377x

maybe your frame is defective ???
i have the gripframe from the looks of it.no issues using phase 3 grips ???
call allen at ab airguns tell him to send you the oldest 1377 grips he has after phase 1
i have another source ill call and see what he says and has
he is a crosman wizard
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0351_Vet

Quote from: 1377x on March 02, 2012, 06:07:01 PM
maybe your frame is defective ???
i have the gripframe from the looks of it.no issues using phase 3 grips ???
call allen at ab airguns tell him to send you the oldest 1377 grips he has after phase 1
i have another source ill call and see what he says and has
he is a crosman wizard

1377x - Pretty Wild Huh.... I know the the First on is a Medalist II, the second one is a Phase I, and the third I had assumed was a Phase II.
(And the fourth is my 1377 turned 1322, on going 1325 project. Maybe I'll get it finished one day, when I put my PCPs down  8) )
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1377x

the third is a phase 2
it looks like mine there are some more pics floating around the forum of the gripframe differences
ill see what i can dig up!!!
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0351_Vet

Quote from: 1377x on March 02, 2012, 06:55:07 PM
the third is a phase 2
it looks like mine there are some more pics floating around the forum of the gripframe differences
ill see what i can dig up!!!

Is your Phase II curved in the front?
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1377x

Quote from: 0351_Vet on March 02, 2012, 07:19:39 PM
Is your Phase II curved in the front?
i wont be able to tell for a few more weeks when i get home
i cant recall of hand what it looks like othe than it looks like yours
just went through a bunch of my old pics cant find any of the phase 2 gripframe
i did come across a 1389 photo which basically looks like a phase 2 1377 the front of the gripframe is straight
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1377x

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1377x

Quote from: quickster47 on March 02, 2012, 08:03:46 PM
Your trigger frame has been tweaked by a previous owner.

Carl
same thing i was thinking
but what would be the purpose?  ???
small hands ???
closed mouths dont get fed

0351_Vet

Now I am thinking it was dropped maybe?
Could I heat it and manipulate it back you think?   :-*

Or is this frame still available from Crosman?   ???
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Disco .22 / Leapers 3-12x44mm AO  Mil-Dot / Disco Sleeper Carbine
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0351_Vet

I'm thinking, put it in a pinned jig, and pull on it with a bar clamp at an angle?
Thoughts.....?







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1377x

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0351_Vet

Quote from: 1377x on March 02, 2012, 10:39:02 PM
i think those grips are for the the 3 screw grip frames

Correct, I was just using them as an indicator of how much out of whack the lower frame is.  :-*
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Quote from: 1377x on March 02, 2012, 08:38:33 PM
same thing i was thinking
but what would be the purpose?  ???
small hands ???

Purpose? He might have done it on purpose but I am betting he dropped it on the trigger frame and 'tweaked' the frame into its current shape and then didn't know what to do with it.  Maybe he just used the grips that were on it and didn't care.

Carl

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0351_Vet

Quote from: quickster47 on March 02, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
Purpose? He might have done it on purpose but I am betting he dropped it on the trigger frame and 'tweaked' the frame into its current shape and then didn't know what to do with it.  Maybe he just used the grips that were on it and didn't care.

Carl

Carl,

Is this grip frame still available from Crosman?
Is it worth straightening? Any suggestions on straightening?

Thanks, Walt
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Disco .22 / Leapers 3-12x44mm AO  Mil-Dot / Disco Sleeper Carbine
Katana .22 / CP 4-16x56mm AO Mil-Dot
2260 / CCS 2400KT / 2300KT / 1701 / 1377 / 1322 / EB22 / Benji 132 / Benji 422


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