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Title: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: John 22xx UK on December 20, 2011, 11:33:37 AM
Hi guys once I get my 2240 set with some decent sights(I have none ATM) I want to join the fun in the monthly contests.

I could even try a entry without sights but that's not the problem,the problem is having a decent A4 target holder/ammo trap.

I would appreciate any advice,thanks guys.

John
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: eric on December 20, 2011, 01:49:42 PM
i use duct seal in a wooden box .you can get duct seal from places like lowes or home depot .should be under 2 dollars a brick --- 1 pound. anything solid to hold the weight of the duct seal should work as a trap .
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: Crosshairs on December 20, 2011, 02:12:27 PM
Here is a portable pellet catcher i made with a cordless drill box and duct seal it works great i also use old news papers stacked about 4 inches thick in a cardboard box.
                                                     Mike
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: breakfastchef on December 20, 2011, 03:04:24 PM
There are a couple of options. First, a cardboard box of any dimension you like filled with newspaper, magazines, old blankets and towels is the cheapest DIY project. These are effective target holders.

Second, you can build your own trap. You can use electrical panel boxes, tool boxes (like Crosshairs), or build a simple box out of wood. Duct seal putty is a popular and expensive material to press into the back of the trap. The putty stops the pellets and greatly reduces the sound of pellet impact; two very important qualities.

My traps are made from wood and filled with rubber mulch (cheap!). They work very well. Periodically, I have to change the cardboard that retains the mulch.

Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: quickster47 † on December 20, 2011, 03:43:42 PM
Larry, couldn't hep but noticing your trap is starting to look a lot like mine with a few extra dimples in the supporting wood structure.  :D

Carl
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: JMJinNC on December 20, 2011, 03:53:39 PM
I've got 2 homemade traps, 1 a bit larger and deeper than the other. I cut a slot in mine to hold the letter-sized targets, which I print onto cardstock. Construction is 1x4 pine with a plywood backer.

If you go with an electrical box, try to find one at an agricultural supply place, as agricultural stuff does not need to meet the same safety standards as residential or commercial equipment. The equivalent electrical box will be a lot cheaper (or so I've read). I've also read that others have used portable metal cash-boxes as effective traps. Also, old desk drawers, ammo boxes, etc.

Lastly, Gardner-Bender duct seal works great!

Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: John 22xx UK on December 20, 2011, 04:04:11 PM
Thanks guys some great ideas to consider I tried looking for duct seal in the UK and its hard to find prices, my guess is they don't wont to shock so don't advertise prices  lol

Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: joe k on December 20, 2011, 07:12:44 PM
breakfastchef
what holds the cardboard in place on your target.
thanks
joe
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: breakfastchef on December 20, 2011, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: joe k on December 20, 2011, 07:12:44 PM
breakfastchef
what holds the cardboard in place on your target.
thanks
joe

I used wire insulation hangers, but any stiff wire-like material would work. I drilled holes on either side of the box around the level of the carboard insert and pushed the wires through one side and out the other.

Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: Serpents Den on December 20, 2011, 08:29:53 PM
nice tips....i've seen a few peeps using that duct seal in youtube vids and didn't know what the stuff was......approx. what does the stuff sell for?
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: joe k on December 20, 2011, 08:35:07 PM
thank you never saw the wire in first picture.
joe
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: JMJinNC on December 20, 2011, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: Serpents Den on December 20, 2011, 08:29:53 PM
nice tips....i've seen a few peeps using that duct seal in youtube vids and didn't know what the stuff was......approx. what does the stuff sell for?
About $2.00 to $2.50 per 1lb brick.

http://www.drillspot.com/products/274092/gardner_bender_ds110_lb_pug_duct_seal (http://www.drillspot.com/products/274092/gardner_bender_ds110_lb_pug_duct_seal)

FYI - usually the package is white.

JMJ
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: JEBert on December 21, 2011, 01:08:45 AM
I used what I had on hand.  I had a lot of cardboard boxes.  I used one of them that was about 10" thick, 24" long and a little over a foot high.  I stuffed it with the other boxes that I had cut into pieces that would just fit and duct taped it shut.  Another one was about 2 feet tall, 3 feet wide and about 14" thick (I had a lot of cabinetry shipping boxes that were big enough to cut the layers 2' X 3').  So what I ended up with is a couple of traps about a foot thick with somewhere between 15 and 30 layers of cardboard (I didn't count, just stuffed them full).  I always put a new piece of cardboard on the front of the box with a couple of drywall screws to tape the target to.
Merry Christmas,
Jerry
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: arkmaker † on December 21, 2011, 01:32:44 AM
Mine is pretty much like Mike's. In fact I got the idea from his trap.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php?topic=3646.msg35400#msg35400 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php?topic=3646.msg35400#msg35400)

Rich
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: JEBert on December 21, 2011, 01:42:30 AM
Rich,
Quiet huh?  That is something I don't think I have read about before but maybe I just missed it.  Do you use any backing for the target?  I use cardboard to make the pellet cut a nice round hole but it makes a good smack when the pellet hits it.  So, I am assuming that mine makes the noise as the pellet hits the paper and cardboard backing rather than the layers of cardboard behind it, which us pretty torn up, and yours doesn't have any backing except for the duct seal.  Is that correct?  If so, I might have to try some duct seal.
Merry Christmas,
Jerry
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: John 22xx UK on December 21, 2011, 08:56:34 AM
Found one price for duct seal £16 a lb shipped to the UK  :o
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: arkmaker † on December 21, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Ask an electrician for Dinosaur $hit (or poop). They tend to call it by different names and that is one it is called here. You should be able to find it locally for a lot less than that!!!
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: arkmaker † on December 21, 2011, 04:32:34 PM
Quote from: JEBert on December 21, 2011, 01:42:30 AM
Rich,
Quiet huh?  That is something I don't think I have read about before but maybe I just missed it.  Do you use any backing for the target?  I use cardboard to make the pellet cut a nice round hole but it makes a good smack when the pellet hits it.  So, I am assuming that mine makes the noise as the pellet hits the paper and cardboard backing rather than the layers of cardboard behind it, which us pretty torn up, and yours doesn't have any backing except for the duct seal.  Is that correct?  If so, I might have to try some duct seal.
Merry Christmas,
Jerry

Very quiet compared to the cardboard box stuffed with newspaper and cardboard that I was using before the duct-seal.

I do use a very thin peice of cardboard (like what comes on the back of a notepad) as a backup to my target paper. If it wasn't for that it would be really really quiet. The duct seal just take away the noise pretty well.
Rich
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: Crosshairs on December 21, 2011, 05:01:44 PM
I guess you better go with the news papers you just need to change the front now and then with new cardboard. As you can see i still use them.
                               Mike
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: OreoGaborio on December 22, 2011, 03:10:24 AM
I went the ghetto route....

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Auckland_Yellow_pages.jpg/250px-Auckland_Yellow_pages.jpg)

Stuck a thick phone book in a cardboard box.  Done.  Works   :-*
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: Crosshairs on December 22, 2011, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: OreoGaborio on December 22, 2011, 03:10:24 AM
I went the ghetto route....

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Auckland_Yellow_pages.jpg/250px-Auckland_Yellow_pages.jpg)

Stuck a thick phone book in a cardboard box.  Done.  Works   :-*
There you go i use old phone books too they work just fine.
                                                          Mike
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: John 22xx UK on December 22, 2011, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: Crosshairs on December 22, 2011, 07:06:19 PM
There you go i use old phone books too they work just fine.
                                                          Mike

Ah now those I can get,thanks guys

I'll still search for Sparky poop but for now phone books it will be  :)
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: NorthStaR on January 05, 2012, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: John 22xx UK on December 21, 2011, 08:56:34 AM
Found one price for duct seal £16 a lb shipped to the UK  :o

I'm in the Uk. I use plumbers putty. The type used to seal around the waste pipe from a toilet.
About £5 a tub which is enough for a 1 inch thick layer inside a square steel target pellet trap.

A 1 inch thick layer is more than enough to silence a 12 FPE rifle at 5m!  8)

I scoop the putty into freezer bags, make them square and even, then tape them in place with duct tape.
The bag stops the putty from escaping and makes it easy to replace or take out to empty pellets.
Over time it very slowly sags downwards so now and again I just push the putty up into position and
its good for a few months at a time.

You could get 3 tubs for the price of importing the Dino poop over the pond.  ;)

It does work better than phonebooks but the phonebooks make a great addition to your backstop.  :)
Title: Deep wooden desk drawer !
Post by: scott400f on January 10, 2012, 03:26:02 AM
I got a old solid wood desk drawer the one used for holding file folders. Spray painted it black packed the top half with 12 pounds of duct seal in the top half the other half is filled with layers of sheets of foil covered foam there is also a layer under the duct seal. Stapled heavy heavy card board on the front so I can replace it as needed. I have maybe $40. in the whole thing. It really silences the impact. I use big boxes packed with heavy shipping paper for his BB guns. Covered the wall behind them for the oops shots. Haven't figured out posting pictures yet but pm me and I'll email them. Need to find some place to host my pictures.
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: John 22xx UK on February 14, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
Quick update whist out with the dog one morning I found this steel box,it appeared to be from a home safe someone discarded...I thought how thoughtful I know what I can do with that,its 300mm x 200mm x 200mm 2mm thick plate just perfect for what I was looking for.

Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: NorthStaR on February 14, 2012, 08:08:25 PM
Good find.  :)

I always eye up the things people chuck out like TV cabinets from the old TFT screens.
But rarely does it go any further - it's normally the wrong time like on the way to work ....!
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: John 22xx UK on February 14, 2012, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: NorthStaR on February 14, 2012, 08:08:25 PM
Good find.  :)

I always eye up the things people chuck out like TV cabinets from the old TFT screens.
But rarely does it go any further - it's normally the wrong time like on the way to work ....!


I was lucky and it was only a few yards away from home,I do need to straighten the side but other than that it will serve its purpose...now the hunt for a decent rear open sight and I can start enjoying my 2240 a little more
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: JEBert on February 14, 2012, 09:02:49 PM
Love the playing card for a target.  The 1 through 10 of Diamonds make the best bullseyes.
All of the men and ladies make good practice silhouettes too.
Cheers,
Jerry
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: sandpiper on February 15, 2012, 01:24:51 AM
Something you don't want to hit. Apparently I should have put more stopping material in the target box   :o

She didn't see it yet but we are going on vacation soon ... heh heh.
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: sandpiper on April 23, 2012, 01:36:41 AM
Quote from: sandpiper on February 15, 2012, 01:24:51 AM
Something you don't want to hit. Apparently I should have put more stopping material in the target box   :o

She didn't see it yet but we are going on vacation soon ... heh heh.

Just looking through some old posts and remembered the hole I put in my wife luggage. We went to Puerto Rico a couple weeks ago. She opened that bag a dozen times and never noticed the hole  :-* Safe til' our next vacation!
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: NorthStaR on May 25, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
Classic... bet she wondered why you had a certain look in your eye each time her hand went near the hole.   :)

Please don't read that out of context, looking back it seems my wordings a bit iffy!  ;D
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: Colt25 on May 25, 2012, 09:56:10 PM
I use a piece of steel inside a wooden box. I never need to maintain it!
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: sandpiper on May 25, 2012, 10:28:58 PM
Quote from: NorthStaR on May 25, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
Classic... bet she wondered why you had a certain look in your eye each time her hand went near the hole.   :)

Please don't read that out of context, looking back it seems my wordings a bit iffy!  ;D

Heh Heh  :-*
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: cheewee on May 28, 2012, 04:32:50 AM
Quote from: Colt25 on May 25, 2012, 09:56:10 PM
I use a piece of steel inside a wooden box. I never need to maintain it!

i might need to try that. heres what happened when i tried my upgraded 2240 on the 10meter targets today.
Title: Re: any tips for indoor target/pellet trap A4 size?
Post by: NorthStaR on May 28, 2012, 08:23:37 PM
I cut a couple of sheets of hardboard and layered them in the back of my wood target box.
On top of that, there's a double layer of corrugated card too. The combo works a treat.

BUT that isn't the actual target zone  :-[ - that's a 6 inch steel box. That packing is for flyers, BBs and friends as a backstop.
Inside the steel trap is a double bag of plumbers mate for peace and quiet.

I bought 4 sticky strips of LEDs that run off batteries to line the sides of the box for some lights out night shooting.
That or when I install the next stage they will make the pellet holes glow (I hope! That's the plan.)

Still a W.I.P.  :)    Sorry this isn't my thread and I'm rambling....  ;D