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#11
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: What a hoot!
Last post by Dee Dub - April 10, 2024, 03:10:20 AM
Quote from: KevinP on April 07, 2024, 09:40:47 AMHa... it starts anew ...... now you must learn the way of CO2 my son ....then of course PcP

HA! I may have finally found a reason to retire.  :P Falling down the forum rabbit hole, I see some incredible air gun performance. Even big game hunting.

So much to learn, so much fun to have. :)

#12
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: What a hoot!
Last post by Dee Dub - April 10, 2024, 03:06:54 AM
Ut-oh!

I'm having so much fun plinking with this, I just bought one as a birthday gift for my hobby machinist buddy. I may have to have one to plink with and one to never finish modifying!  :-*
#13
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: What a hoot!
Last post by DHunter - April 07, 2024, 11:44:31 AM
The 1377 and 1322 have been called "the most expensive cheap gun out there," or something like that, because people start cheap, and find out about the unlimited ways to modify and customize them, and increase power, and so on.
#14
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: What a hoot!
Last post by KevinP - April 07, 2024, 09:40:47 AM
Ha... it starts anew ...... now you must learn the way of CO2 my son ....then of course PcP
#15
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / What a hoot!
Last post by Dee Dub - April 07, 2024, 02:47:30 AM
Just took the 1377 out of the box and set a pop can up in the back yard at 15 yards. Two pumps on Crosman Premier pointed 7.4 gr pellets and the can is twitching. On four pumps I had to go retrieve the can out of the brush. Still have the stupid grim on my face. This is going to be a great hobby!
#16
Quote from: Flex on April 03, 2024, 10:10:53 PMYa, that was a bit unclear but now I understand what you were trying to show. From previous posts in the thread, I do believe that uncletom has a 1322 as well as a 2240. I'm still puzzled as to why the breech he purchased fits so poorly. I'm still wondering if the European company that he purchased the breech from imports them from the U.S. (i.e. Crosman) or if they are manufactured in Europe?


The only manufacturer in Europe who made and sold aftermarket Crosman breeches was Gmac. Was because they closed shop just recently, a shame.

#17
Quote from: crossliner on April 03, 2024, 06:51:25 PMFlex sir, 17xx breeches are totally different and cannot be mounted on either tubes; it has 4 anchor points, the front ones "impale" the valve through the tube for more security, you know, being a PCP.

Sorry if I wasn't too clear, but I just chose to mention it as reference to tube and breech symbiosis. It is a wide and tall breech specifically made to mate perfectly with the 17xx tube diameter---also 7/8" like the 22xx's.

Anyway, I was just curious why UT was too concerned about the so called discrepancy, hence the query if he owns a 13xx.
Ya, that was a bit unclear but now I understand what you were trying to show. From previous posts in the thread, I do believe that uncletom has a 1322 as well as a 2240. I'm still puzzled as to why the breech he purchased fits so poorly. I'm still wondering if the European company that he purchased the breech from imports them from the U.S. (i.e. Crosman) or if they are manufactured in Europe?
#18
Quote from: Flex on April 03, 2024, 04:15:52 PMA few comments / questions.
As I mentioned in an earlier post to this thread, I too, am not seeing the degree of "gapage" that uncletom is describing. The photos that I posted of my airguns show a near perfect fit.
It was mentioned that a breech for a 17xx series pellet gun was mounted on a 13xx valve tube AND the "gapage" was present. Are the breeches for the 17xx models significantly different than those for the 22xx & 13xx series models? Answering my own question, that appears to be the case! It seems then, that uncletom has somehow received (erroneously) the wrong breech. Is this a possibility? It certainly would explain his situation.


Flex sir, 17xx breeches are totally different and cannot be mounted on either tubes; it has 4 anchor points, the front ones "impale" the valve through the tube for more security, you know, being a PCP.

Sorry if I wasn't too clear, but I just chose to mention it as reference to tube and breech symbiosis. It is a wide and tall breech specifically made to mate perfectly with the 17xx tube diameter---also 7/8" like the 22xx's.

Anyway, I was just curious why UT was too concerned about the so called discrepancy, hence the query if he owns a 13xx.
#19
Quote from: crossliner on April 03, 2024, 01:24:29 AMDo you own a 1377?

I checked mine, as I have several in OEM and aftermarket in stainless (Don Cothran), especially the 22xx ones.

I also own OEM and Don Cothran breeches, and I just could not see the point of your complaint about the "gapage" 'cuz there is none that I could see.

The breeches, OEM and Don's, don't look off atop my 13xx tube nor on the 22xx ones, and no, I don't have a plastic breech for reference; I probably gave them away.

Anyway, it actually looks, the steel breech being of smaller diameter than both tube sizes, better on the  13xx's and more proportioned, IMHO.

On the other hand, the 17xx breech, i.e., PROD and 1701P/1720T, were definitely and perfectly made for the 22xx/17xx tubes (they're identical in diameter).

Out of curiosity, I tried it on a 13xx tube, and I certainly saw the "gapage", lol!




A few comments / questions.
As I mentioned in an earlier post to this thread, I too, am not seeing the degree of "gapage" that uncletom is describing. The photos that I posted of my airguns show a near perfect fit.
It was mentioned that a breech for a 17xx series pellet gun was mounted on a 13xx valve tube AND the "gapage" was present. Are the breeches for the 17xx models significantly different than those for the 22xx & 13xx series models? Answering my own question, that appears to be the case! It seems then, that uncletom has somehow received (erroneously) the wrong breech. Is this a possibility? It certainly would explain his situation.
#20
Quote from: uncletom on April 02, 2024, 10:19:34 AMSilence this far.

I'm still hoping.


Do you own a 1377?

I checked mine, as I have several in OEM and aftermarket in stainless (Don Cothran), especially the 22xx ones.

I also own OEM and Don Cothran breeches, and I just could not see the point of your complaint about the "gapage" 'cuz there is none that I could see.

The breeches, OEM and Don's, don't look off atop my 13xx tube nor on the 22xx ones, and no, I don't have a plastic breech for reference; I probably gave them away.

Anyway, it actually looks, the steel breech being of smaller diameter than both tube sizes, better on the  13xx's and more proportioned, IMHO.

On the other hand, the 17xx breech, i.e., PROD and 1701P/1720T, were definitely and perfectly made for the 22xx/17xx tubes (they're identical in diameter).

Out of curiosity, I tried it on a 13xx tube, and I certainly saw the "gapage", lol!