Hello all, I have a Crosman 2300S and 2289 both great air pistols :) when loading the 2289 (plastic breech) its a simple process, however when the 2300S lets say its not as smooth. Im assuming that's due to the steel breech? Maybe the J&B paste job would help??
The difficult loading you are encountering with the 2300s has to do with the pellet touching the top of the screw just inside the breech that connects the breech to the air chamber(Part #5).
Some people polish this screw.
Some people put some wax on it.
Me?
When chambering a round I lift the muzzle vertically and the pellet chambers effortlessly.
Hello Frank and thank you for your input :). The screw is under the probe so I don't see how that's possible to be interfering with the movement of the pellet ??? Its not that big of a deal I just have to give it a little more push to get the pellet into the barrel. I'll experiment with different pellets to see what happens, again thank you for your input :-*
The 2300S and 2300T have the rearward located 4-48 screw steel breeches, although one is the short breech and the other is the long breech.
In my experience, the plastic breech on the 2240/50/60, 1377/22, 362 guns, even with its limitations, does operate a bit smoother than the steel breeches because of its softer surfaces.
Check for burrs in the port of the barrel - the pellet head may be catching there. Try feeding the pellet with the barrel pointed up and see what this feels like.
Polishing and/or careful fitting of the barrel-to-breech diameter can help.
See attached image of a 1322 with polished barrel and the long steel breech with forward located 4-48 screw. Please ignore the embarrassing amount of dust on the camera lens! :-[ Note that the breech has additional barrel retention grub screws, the third of which is directly above the TP.
I point the muzzle to the floor and drop the pellet in :-*
16 posts and he is an expert.
Quote from: CraigH on November 27, 2022, 04:16:39 PM
The 2300S and 2300T have the rearward located 4-48 screw steel breeches, although one is the short breech and the other is the long breech.
In my experience, the plastic breech on the 2240/50/60, 1377/22, 362 guns, even with its limitations, does operate a bit smoother than the steel breeches because of its softer surfaces.
Check for burrs in the port of the barrel - the pellet head may be catching there. Try feeding the pellet with the barrel pointed up and see what this feels like.
Polishing and/or careful fitting of the barrel-to-breech diameter can help.
See attached image of a 1322 with polished barrel and the long steel breech with forward located 4-48 screw. Please ignore the embarrassing amount of dust on the camera lens! :-[ Note that the breech has additional barrel retention grub screws, the third of which is directly above the TP.
Ok thanks for the reply and input :-*
Quote from: Brutuz on November 27, 2022, 10:33:05 PM
I point the muzzle to the floor and drop the pellet in :-*
Thanks for your input also :-*
Quote from: RetatCDude on November 28, 2022, 12:39:06 AM
16 posts and he is an expert.
I don't know what your talking about?? Who's an expert?? ???
i do like Bert and point the muzzle down
I also do the muzzle down technique. :-*
Shot the 2300S today and tried the muzzle down and it did help a bit but still not as smooth loading as the 2289. Again thanks to all that gave suggestions :-*.
Polishing the transition on the end of the barrel should help, just be careful not to take too much off since that's where the breech O ring seals...
I usually load with the barrel up method, that way I can get the skirt on the tip of the probe before pushing it forward, too easy to get the pellet sideways or backward with barrel down, but I haven't shot a lot in a while...
Quote from: rangerfredbob on December 04, 2022, 07:53:46 AM
Polishing the transition on the end of the barrel should help, just be careful not to take too much off since that's where the breech O ring seals...
I usually load with the barrel up method, that way I can get the skirt on the tip of the probe before pushing it forward, too easy to get the pellet sideways or backward with barrel down, but I haven't shot a lot in a while...
Ok, thanks for your input :-* and lets get out there and do some shooting ;)
About a 45 degree angle up works best with mine.
Since there are a few of us 2300S owners here I have another question. I've noticed when I take the spent CO2 cartridge out I notice a ticking sound coming from the tube anyone else notice this or might have an idea of what it could be?? The pistol shoots fine it just make a noise when I remove the spent CO2 cartridge ???
Sometimes the piercing tip of the exhaust valve gets stuck in the cart when you shoot it all the way down to low pressure so the noise is the valve stem going back to it's spring rest position, nothing to be worried about. Normally if you stop shooting when you notice a significant drop in POI instead of going all the way down it won't happen. Sometimes the cart's even get stuck in the tube which can be fun.
Quote from: rangerfredbob on December 04, 2022, 07:30:11 PM
Sometimes the piercing tip of the exhaust valve gets stuck in the cart when you shoot it all the way down to low pressure so the noise is the valve stem going back to it's spring rest position, nothing to be worried about. Normally if you stop shooting when you notice a significant drop in POI instead of going all the way down it won't happen. Sometimes the cart's even get stuck in the tube which can be fun.
Hmm interesting I do shoot till its pretty much gone. I shoot usually 100 pellets a cartridge, Ill try backing down to around 60 and see if that makes a difference. Thanks for your input/suggestion :-*
Quote from: rangerfredbob on December 04, 2022, 07:30:11 PM
Sometimes the piercing tip of the exhaust valve gets stuck in the cart when you shoot it all the way down to low pressure so the noise is the valve stem going back to it's spring rest position, nothing to be worried about. Normally if you stop shooting when you notice a significant drop in POI instead of going all the way down it won't happen. Sometimes the cart's even get stuck in the tube which can be fun.
Well JFEO I put 70 shots through one CO2 cartridge and the ticking sound is still there ??? I know I said I would shoot 60 pellets through one cartridge but I couldn't help myself ;D I'll try a lower count next time. Its just weird that it would be ticking like that I'm wondering want could still be under pressure ??? The valve assembly is the only thing I can think of, but from what?? The CO2 cartridge is out :o
Quote from: rangerfredbob on December 04, 2022, 07:30:11 PM
Sometimes the piercing tip of the exhaust valve gets stuck in the cart when you shoot it all the way down to low pressure so the noise is the valve stem going back to it's spring rest position, nothing to be worried about. Normally if you stop shooting when you notice a significant drop in POI instead of going all the way down it won't happen. Sometimes the cart's even get stuck in the tube which can be fun.
Not exactly what I call fun. I had that happen on two different guns, and had to disassemble them to get the valve with the stuck cart out. Acutally had to hold the valve in a padded vise and twist the cart off the piercing stem with a pair of vise grip pliers. I noticed some fine mill marks on the piercing stems and stoned them smooth then polished to a mirror finish. Have not had a stuck cart since doing this.
As for loading pellets, I find that flat nose wad cutters tend to try to jam on that little screw that holds the breech to the action tube( is that the right term) round or pointed pellets seem to feed smoother, but I like the candle wax to smooth things out there, works great.
Whenever I've had a stuck cart I've just taken the end cap off and taken a good 2" swing with the gun at a 2x4 or something convenient to jar it loose, but yes they can get pretty stuck...
I put 60 pellets through and it seems to have helped quite a bit so I'll go to 55 but no less and see what happens.
I tried muzzle up, muzzle down, and wax helped the most, makes it very smooth.
Install some shims under the screw so it sits flush with the breech ;) Problem Solved :-*
I've used a little beeswax in the hole to smooth loading of the pellet. No issues so far
This might help on the bay.
Sorry