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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Lube pellets?
« Last post by RetatCDude on June 19, 2021, 02:09:09 PM »
Back to the subject of the post….
For my competition pellets, I wash them 8 minutes in a hydro-static machine.
Then rinse them in scalding hot water (to aid the drying) and place in the sun til dry.
Then into a zip-lock bag with a few drops of bicycle chain lube (Krytox, I think).
Shake, shake…
Does it help?
You can’t judge by my shooting.
I do shoot with several world class FT shooters.
They don’t do anything except open the tins and shoot.
To each his own.
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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Lube pellets?
« Last post by mikld on June 19, 2021, 05:23:56 AM »
FWIW, I have used my cheap chrony to check everything from 32 ACP through Magnum handgun ammo to 308 Win and 30-06. I used standard velocity 22 lr (CCI)  to "check" my old chrony, 1,100 fps, very consistent...
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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Lube pellets?
« Last post by mr007s on June 18, 2021, 09:53:00 PM »
I dont believe much can be told from the 12' distance
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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Lube pellets?
« Last post by mikld on June 18, 2021, 09:50:18 PM »
Update;

Well this test turned out to be a huge comedy of errors. First I forgot to turn off my red dot sight on my pistol from the last shoot and the battery was dead. No problem, I have been shooting across my old Pro Chrono chrony a lot of years checking everything from 22 lr up to hot magnum handguns and 30-06 with narry a problem, and I'm a fair handgun shot and the distance was only 12' so I loaded up my pistol aimed roughly and very first shot hit the screen , a little right of dead center, OOPS! Checked local store and nope, no chronographs. Shopped around on line and found a Caldwell and ordered it. It may be in by next week. I luckily found another battery at the drug store and installed it in the sight and yep, got a red dot. But lost the battery cap. Decided to shoot a few anyway and found the lubed pellets difficult to drop in the breech straight, but managed, quite slowly. Fired about forty and determined accuracy of the lubed Crosman 14.3 HPs were the same as the pellets right from the tin. A bit frustrated by this time and didn't try cleaning barrel to see if lubed pellets were dirtier, I'll do that later...
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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: 2240 to 2300 .177??
« Last post by RS-MN on June 17, 2021, 07:11:50 AM »
I'd like to find a different sight with a smaller red dot. Any suggestions would be helpful. I haven't shopped them for a while. I think this BSA is has a 5 MOA dot size?
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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: 2240 to 2300 .177??
« Last post by RS-MN on June 17, 2021, 06:53:25 AM »
I also designed and 3D printed a barrel muffler for it. It's very effective. Let's me shoot in my basement range without any complaints.  :-*

Using an older BSA red dot.

Initial FPS was 570 with Gamo Match wadcutter pellets with the adjuster turned most of the way in. I turned the adjuster all the way out and got it to be about 510-515 for most shots. I'll have to record a full string with a new CO2 cartridge.

I have a Super Sear installed, but I think a bit more trigger work is needed. I'd like to get the release a little easier.
I don't have a trigger scale, but maybe adding the adjustable spring or a lighter spring? I'm open to suggestions.
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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: 2240 to 2300 .177??
« Last post by RS-MN on June 17, 2021, 06:48:46 AM »
It's all together and shooting well. I learned a couple of things along the way.
Since i had an older 2240 I needed to do a bit of machining - drill and tap a #4-48 hole for rear breech screw location and then grind the hammer for screw clearance. That was the extent of the modifications. Everything else was bolt on assembly work.
All new seals were installed.
Another barrel grub screw was added to the breech 1" forward of the existing one. (those are #8-32).



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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Lube pellets?
« Last post by Rezarf on June 17, 2021, 03:16:58 AM »
I've purchased 8.0gn Vogel wadcutter pellets in bulk - they come without any cleaning in a can of 6000, but they're cheap (and filthy). I wash the pellets in small quantities in a ziplock with Dawn Dishwashing soap and water, then spread them out and dry in the sun. Once dry, I put them in a clean ziplock with a couple of drops of Ballistol oil and roll them around, then put them in a tin with a paper towel to absorb any excess. Performance difference in velocity? Never checked, since they're wadcutters I use out to about 10 meters. I'm such a crappy shot that either lubed or dry, I can't tell a difference in POI anyway.  ;D
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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Lube pellets?
« Last post by jkingrph on June 17, 2021, 01:11:39 AM »
Never though of that, I used to use the NRA beeswax/alox mix for cast bullets, always loved the smell.  I have "lubed" some with Hornandy one shot dry cleaner/lube but not having a chrony, cannot comment about velocity, nor have I shot enough to tell if it lessens any possible leading in the barrel.  I have also lubed some with spray silicone.
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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Lube pellets?
« Last post by mikld on June 16, 2021, 10:43:46 PM »
Only been here a short time and hope this is in the right place!

Long time firearms reloader, bullet caster and shooter but short time air gunner. I was shooting my 2240 in my shop today and a thought hit me (OOPS!), I have used alox and 45/45/10 on many, many cast bullets quite successfully and wondered, "why not pellets?". Granted I'm not concerned with barrel leading, but wondered if the velocities would improve with lubed pellets. Also being an air gun (CO2) I wonder if there any ill effects on the gun. I lubed some Crosman "Piranha", 14.3 pellets with thinned 45/45/10 (45% Johnson's paste wax, 45% liquid alox, 10% mineral spirits) and letting them dry over night. I'll shot them over my chrony later this week. Google has several hits but opinions vary from "I never lube any" to "I use Pellgunoil" on my pellets", With a whole lot of "try it and see if accuracy improves". Not a lot of help so I'll ask on my favorite air gun forum...

Anyone have experience with lubed pellets?
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