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Title: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 16, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
There's been word drops here and there on the forum so we should figure out what we want to do...

This Gauntlet can be wide open, different class of airgun and we go for a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in each class. Voting method will have to be figured out at a later date.

People's Choice?
Honorable Mention?

Classes ?

CO2
Bulk Fill
Pumper
Carbine

Set a date for the showing ?

I was thinking September. That gives all the builders time to gather parts and still have a nice summer.

Let's get some input and get it going  :D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: BigErn on March 16, 2013, 12:56:32 AM
I'm halfway done with mine  8)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: bgmcgee on March 16, 2013, 01:08:07 AM
All of the above!!!!^^^^^^
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 16, 2013, 01:26:19 AM
Hmm, gots to cogitate on that a little bit.  Not sure we have enough that would participate to have more than one class at a time.  But then we certainly don't want to discriminate against anyone.

Need to mull it over a bit before I can make a recommendation.  And we definitely need to come up with a fail proof, reliable voting idea.

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 16, 2013, 01:53:25 AM
I like the way it was. Leaves room for everyone that wants to play and also opens the creative juices to not be stymied by having to build only one type of shooter. Just me.
Rich
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on March 16, 2013, 01:57:58 AM
With a deadline of September I may be able to throw something together got a couple ideas rattling around sounds good to me. :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 16, 2013, 04:36:10 AM
Quote from: BigErn on March 16, 2013, 12:56:32 AM
I'm halfway done with mine  8)

Now that's the kind of attitude to have  ;)

I have some wicked ideas that will come out  :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Brent on March 16, 2013, 05:30:36 AM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 16, 2013, 01:53:25 AM
I like the way it was. Leaves room for everyone that wants to play and also opens the creative juices to not be stymied by having to build only one type of shooter. Just me.
Rich

I am not sure I am even going to be able to get into this... but I tend to agree with Rich here. I think part of the charm and fun for everyone the last time... was that it was wide open to what ever their minds eye, parts, and desires were for them. Seemed to make the camaraderie of it more genuine, and the poking at each other funner. Just saying is all. Kinda feel like I should stay out of it, as I am not sure I will be building something for it even. Just my 2¢
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 16, 2013, 05:36:19 AM
Wide open is my choice, bling, tactical, whatever you want to build.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: droid on March 16, 2013, 10:52:22 AM
For me it should be a no holds barred new project full custom build off then at least everyone knows the score from the outset. I found it hard to compare genuine spare parts builds with full on customs jobbies. Mine in particular was an almost complete gun, albeit it was in spares and is again now awaiting new parts.

If there are enough entries then maybe after the winner there maybe class winners ie carbines, pistols, pumpers, innovation, old school etc..
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Davio on March 16, 2013, 11:43:11 AM
If September is the target date, since we are all "friends" here, lets just see how many sign on between now and then... and go ahead and at least say whether you are doing a pumper or CO2. That number of brothers and by type will tell us whether or not to make it one category or more.

As for voting, winning, placing, showing and all that: Either way as far I am am concerned, because I am not concerned.  If the goal was to win, then I would build what I am certain would impress this wonderful bunch.  But that is not what I plan to build.  I am going to do new things every time and do not want to second guess myself over whether it would win or not.  If I did a green paisley grip (I'm not) and coated the thing zombie green... make it shoot .22 cal green gelcaps... and named it "Mucinex", then it is what it is without regard to established wow factor.

I truly enjoyed seeing all the entries.  Like everyone else, I had a mental vote and ranking.  But they were all good and worthwhile.  I would not want to list the ranking from top to bottom publicly because it would send the wrong message to the ones not on top or even mentioned.  Again, they were all good and worthwhile.

If you do vote and post the "winners", then be sure and get the vote for how many places you are going to go for.  My years as a quality engineer and regular user of statistics still has me wondering how you can get one vote per person from such a small population and then post three levels for two categories. And if anybody voted for themselves, then that is really whack to the max beyond Thunderdome as far as skewing the data and its interpretation.

I need to go to sleep now.   ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: sandpiper on March 16, 2013, 12:34:44 PM
So is September first the deadline  ???
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: mr007s on March 16, 2013, 12:44:13 PM
I also like how the recent Gaunlet was presented.
But since my spare parts are still being held hostage by JA I plan to submit my imaginary build. It will be very low power, long barrel in 50 cal for applying Preparation H to hard to reach areas.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 16, 2013, 01:24:05 PM
It seems that so far a wide open format as before is preferred.

7 yeas and 1 undecided

For the date of 1 September to show by is hard to read.

5 yeas
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 16, 2013, 01:29:23 PM
I like September, it gives me time to gather some goodies ;)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 16, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 16, 2013, 01:53:25 AM
I like the way it was. Leaves room for everyone that wants to play and also opens the creative juices to not be stymied by having to build only one type of shooter. Just me.
Rich
Quote from: chongman on March 16, 2013, 05:36:19 AM
Wide open is my choice, bling, tactical, whatever you want to build.
x1 i  agree leave it wide open. As far as voteing i really don't care if i win or not it was a lot of fun and a got a chance to see some beaautiful work done by my fellow members. As it was said before we're all winners.
                                     Mike
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: gdm620 on March 16, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
I say have it open with at least one Crosman part of some kind on it.  I like seeing all the variety of ideas that comes from a open contest. 

As for voting when it is all done make a list of all the people in the contest and number them 1,2,3,4 ect.  Then post The voting rules and list and lock the thread.  Then forum members will pick the one they like and PM someone that is chosen to tallie the votes.  Have a time limit on voting say like a week after the contest ends.  When the time is up the most with the votes wins first and so on down the line.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 16, 2013, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: chongman on March 16, 2013, 05:36:19 AM
Wide open is my choice, bling, tactical, whatever you want to build.

I agree with wide open and September is a good month.  Count me in.  :-*

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: HappyHunter on March 16, 2013, 02:38:30 PM
I myself like the "wide open" concept as each member can build what THEY want, not what somebody else imposes on them. For example, I like HPA (regulated or not), therefore don't really want to have to build a 1377 or 2289 pumper in order to qualify. Same can be said for other members who want to do the opposite of me... :-*

With the nice weather coming and people getting out more and doing spring cleanup, "summer activities" etc, I think the September 1st deadline is a good idea. Plenty of time for everyone to get their entries ready. With the extra time alotted, could possibly get more entries too - which means more eye-candy for all of us to drool over...always a good thing!  8)

Todd
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 16, 2013, 02:43:42 PM
Yepper, I got a really cool idea.  Only thing Crosman is the trigger.  ;D  So I am thinking it is eligible.

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 16, 2013, 02:47:49 PM
I just want to keep it fair to all members some may not have the money to go out and buy new stuff so lets keep that in mind. Maybe we can have a poor mans category or no custom parts category something like that.
                                             Mike
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: droid on March 16, 2013, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 16, 2013, 02:47:49 PM
I just want to keep it fair to all members some may not have the money to go out and buy new stuff so lets keep that in mind. Maybe we can have a poor mans category or no custom parts category something like that.
                                             Mike

I agree Mike, not got any answer to it though  :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: crossliner on March 16, 2013, 04:43:37 PM
How about a WITHIN THE ASIA Gauntlet contest   :P..I wish I could get them parts as easy as you can gents but no it's not the case  :(
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 16, 2013, 06:59:28 PM
There is a guy over in the Philippines that has been making some dynamite 2240 knockoffs!! I mean awesome stuff!! I wish I could get my little arthritic fingers on some of those parts!! I have seen them over on the green and recently on the Yellow. Quite a talented metalworker.


And Carl? Uhhh.......NO NO NO........you can not enter that behemoth! But you could send it to me for some further testing  :D


Rich
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: WyoMan on March 16, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 16, 2013, 06:59:28 PM


And Carl? Uhhh.......NO NO NO........you can not enter that behemoth! But you could send it to me for some further testing  :D


Rich

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 16, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Hey, how about doubling the amount of pics to 6+ this time around? I have a feeling that there will be more details to show off this time around, with the longer time frame to complete.


What do you guys think?
Rich
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 16, 2013, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 16, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Hey, how about doubling the amount of pics to 6+ this time around? I have a feeling that there will be more details to show off this time around, with the longer time frame to complete.


What do you guys think?
Rich
x1
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Brent on March 16, 2013, 08:11:20 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 16, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Hey, how about doubling the amount of pics to 6+ this time around? I have a feeling that there will be more details to show off this time around, with the longer time frame to complete.


What do you guys think?
Rich

Sounds Good  :)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: droid on March 16, 2013, 08:16:03 PM
I struggled to get one decent photo. I better start now if I need 6  ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 16, 2013, 08:20:05 PM
Big thumbs up on more pics displayed  :-*

We do need to host them on Photobucket type sites, can't be hogging up the bandwidth on the CAPOF server.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 16, 2013, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 16, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Hey, how about doubling the amount of pics to 6+ this time around? I have a feeling that there will be more details to show off this time around, with the longer time frame to complete.


What do you guys think?
Rich

The additional pictures will be good.  I had to sort through 200 pictures and only choose three that told the story.

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: sandpiper on March 16, 2013, 11:08:17 PM
So I'm assuming it'll be Crosman pistols only  ... correct?
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 16, 2013, 11:35:55 PM
Quote from: sandpiper on March 16, 2013, 11:08:17 PM
So I'm assuming it'll be Crosman pistols only  ... correct?

I don't mean to put you on the spot, cause an incidence of CNS (Crosman National Security) but what are you thinking about  ???
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 16, 2013, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: chongman on March 16, 2013, 08:20:05 PM
Big thumbs up on more pics displayed  :-*

We do need to host them on Photobucket type sites, can't be hogging up the bandwidth on the CAPOF server.


What about using the same hosting service that we post our competition targets with as another alternative?
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: mr007s on March 17, 2013, 01:31:29 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 16, 2013, 11:44:06 PM

What about using the same hosting service that we post our competition targets with as another alternative?

This works great for me:

http://tinypic.com/ (http://tinypic.com/)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Brent on March 17, 2013, 04:57:42 PM
Quote from: mr007s on March 17, 2013, 01:31:29 PM
This works great for me:

http://tinypic.com/ (http://tinypic.com/)
That's the one I have been using... after seeing you mention it before 007. It plays nice with my android phone. Thanks for turning me on to it!
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: eric on March 17, 2013, 07:57:47 PM
included in thoses pictures a target shot (say 5 shots) at a given distance depending on pistol or rifle  ??? 
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: gdm620 on March 17, 2013, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: eric on March 17, 2013, 07:57:47 PM
included in thoses pictures a target shot (say 5 shots) at a given distance depending on pistol or rifle  ???

x1 on What Eric said.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 17, 2013, 09:58:33 PM
OK, another round up... lets see if we're cooking with peanut oil here....

Wide Open, build what you want
Post by 00:59 1 September
6 pictures, one being a target with a 5-shot group
Must have at least one Crosman part
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on March 18, 2013, 01:13:16 AM
Sounds fair to me I'm in. :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 18, 2013, 02:40:25 AM
Ok can we enter more then one gun.  :o
                                   Mike
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 18, 2013, 02:47:18 AM
Quote from: chongman on March 17, 2013, 09:58:33 PM
OK, another round up... lets see if we're cooking with peanut oil here....

Wide Open, build what you want
Post by 00:59 1 September
6 pictures, one being a target with a 5-shot group
Must have at least one Crosman part


I'll buy into this set of guidelines.  But we should still say something about voting and get us a volunteer for tallying the votes.

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on March 18, 2013, 03:08:30 AM
You know Mike was going to ask that same question myself don't know if I will but I might. :) :) :)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 18, 2013, 03:36:03 AM
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 18, 2013, 02:40:25 AM
Ok can we enter more then one gun.  :o
                                   Mike

Quote from: targettgii on March 18, 2013, 03:08:30 AM
You know Mike was going to ask that same question myself don't know if I will but I might. :) :) :)

Multiple entries... sounds cool  :) Anybody else in for that?

Quote from: quickster47 on March 18, 2013, 02:47:18 AM
I'll buy into this set of guidelines.  But we should still say something about voting and get us a volunteer for tallying the votes.

Carl


OK Carl, let's here some options  ???
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: mrb02334 on March 18, 2013, 04:15:01 AM
As a new member here(only a few months) I can't tell you guys how impressed I was with all the builds. And you all did it on short notice. I would have been happy beeing voted last place. I won't be entering the next build, but who knows maybe the third.
Let me offer my service if there is anything I can do to help, I would be more than happy to count votes or anything else I can do. Also I agree with the wide open concept. It gives everybody a chance to do their thing.
I realy enjoyed looking at what you guys did, and I agree with more picts.
Good luck to all,
Jon
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: breakfastchef on March 18, 2013, 04:52:47 AM
Late to the party, but a comment to share. These kind of build offs are fun and the final guns are a blast to see. But these competitions tend to favor people with machining abilities, woodworking skills and/or those who are parts whores hoarders. Having a comfortable 'cash stash' is also very helpful in the process.

At some time, we might want to level the playing field and do a competiton where execution trumps bedazzled beauty. Something like a Dollar Store Build Off where you build an air powered gun with cheap stuff found around the house and from a dollar store. We could still require at least one Crosman part, but the entrants would make or adapt 'things' to make the gun shoot. It reminds me of a science fair demonstration at the White House when President Obama helpd a kid use a bicycle pump to fill his marshmellow shooter that looked like it was made from PVC tubes.

The final product would have to shoot a projectile, say, at least 10 feet, and other criteria we deemed useful. Criteria might include function & form, ability to shoot, total cost (perhaps a budget limit), execution, creativity, etc. This idea could be a total flop, or very enlightening.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: dan_house on March 18, 2013, 11:21:09 PM
Gonna lean with Chef on this, a bit...
I think your looking at it backwards.... Define a purpose for the gun (shooting pidgeons from the 4th floor of a publishers warehouse, minimum and maximum length, everyone's power levels must meet the power levelrestrictions of the folks who live in area where the upper limits are legally defined, International/10meter guns built on a 1377 platform, if the french foreign legion wanted an airgun for desert use, what american cops would carry in their cruisers instead of a shotgun or AR platform, contains parts you made for another competitor and then traded for parts made for you, completly stock-no aftermarkt parts allowed- but can mod what came in the package, if Red Jacket Firearms opened an arigun division based on Crosman 1377... .....) then build toward that. Or maybe only pumpers.... Or barrel length can only be 10 inch, etc etc. Their should be restrictions, but make those the parameters of the build
As far as the contestants with machining skills and tooling having some advantage, yea been burned by that on other contests. Maybe some forum members who have those skills and tools but not in the contest could cut some metal or wood to help even that out. Team builds?
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 18, 2013, 11:32:27 PM
I think the point of the last Gauntlet was to just do it and have fun. That's why it worked. Maybe I'm wrong, but once you start putting all kind of rules in place, the fun goes out of it and I predict that there will not be many entries. I'm probably wrong though.


Just me and maybe I'm a bit of a rebel and non conformist, but I just don't like building within set parameters as a hobby. I have to do that for a living  :(
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Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 18, 2013, 11:41:52 PM
Wow, starting to get complicated now but we need the input.

I'm just throwing things out there guys, by know means am I "in charge" of anything. The ultimate decision of what/how/when is up to the members of the forum. 

I just want to build some wild crazy air guns  :D

Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on March 19, 2013, 01:07:07 AM
I think run what you brung to the race and have fun just my opinion.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 19, 2013, 01:12:13 AM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 18, 2013, 11:32:27 PM
I think the point of the last Gauntlet was to just do it and have fun. That's why it worked. Maybe I'm wrong, but once you start putting all kind of rules in place, the fun goes out of it and I predict that there will not be many entries. I'm probably wrong though.


Just me and maybe I'm a bit of a rebel and non conformist, but I just don't like building within set parameters as a hobby. I have to do that for a living  :(
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Must agree with Rich lets just show off what we come up with like the last one it was fun.
                                            Mike
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: breakfastchef on March 19, 2013, 01:12:17 AM
Quote from: dan_house on March 18, 2013, 11:21:09 PM
Gonna lean with Chef on this, a bit...

Thanks for the support Dan. I was in no way trying to being down the Gauntlet competitions, only interject another viewpoint. I am not going to 'wax philisophical' on the subject any longer. If we are just having fun and everybody is a winner, then the format of Gauntlet 1 works for me.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: dan_house on March 20, 2013, 05:22:40 PM
like Chef, Im not trying to be down. Just dont see how you can call it it a contest or competition without some kinda rule set to judge the entries against.
I even cleaned off a space for the trophy ;)
hehe ok, I'll shut up now :-*


Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 20, 2013, 05:41:11 PM
Quote from: dan_house on March 20, 2013, 05:22:40 PM
like Chef, Im not trying to be down. Just dont see how you can call it it a contest or competition without some kinda rule set to judge the entries against.
I even cleaned off a space for the trophy ;)
hehe ok, I'll shut up now :-*


I'm with you on being able to judge something, you first needs ground rules. I guess I came off like a butthead, but that wasn't my intention. Honest it wasn't I Just had such a good time last time around and was able to do some swapping of parts in order to post the pics for an entry. Also, was able to put back together a stock 2240 at the same time. Something I had not had for a long long time.


Whatever the rules turn out to be, I am down with them  :-*  Count me in!
Rich
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: droid on March 20, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Rules wise I was happy with everyone is a winner (except me I came fourth ;D)

An overly competitive rule laden build off to me is against the grain of the CAPOF, I think we all just get on too well.

I like most people appreciated all the entries last time budget builds to all out builds and it was just so much fun to do  :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 20, 2013, 06:57:54 PM
I'm with you guys... minimum rules, maximum fun  :)

I like seeing the super bright blaze in your eyeballs bling just as much as the basic cleanly built guns.

What do you think about just voting for a "People's Choice" i.e. the most popular gun? I have some old trophies we can use  ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on March 20, 2013, 08:37:25 PM
I like that Idea chongman I like to look at all the different builds on this site. I have my favorites but they are all great in their own way. :)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 20, 2013, 09:44:24 PM
Quote from: chongman on March 20, 2013, 06:57:54 PM
What do you think about just voting for a "People's Choice" i.e. the most popular gun? I have some old trophies we can use  ;D

I like it and will vote for that idea as it is neither democrat nor Republican.  :-*

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Noah on March 20, 2013, 10:27:46 PM
Whatever works - it is a joy to see what anybody has to contribute.  :-*

Am I still the official vote accountant?  ???
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: ped on March 20, 2013, 11:03:40 PM
peoples choice sounds the best way of doing it
i never looked at the voting results as it wasn't about winning but taking part that counted for me
ped
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 20, 2013, 11:20:42 PM
Quote from: ped on March 20, 2013, 11:03:40 PM
peoples choice sounds the best way of doing it
i never looked at the voting results as it wasn't about winning but taking part that counted for me
ped
x1
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 20, 2013, 11:24:56 PM
Quote from: ped on March 20, 2013, 11:03:40 PM
peoples choice sounds the best way of doing it
i never looked at the voting results as it wasn't about winning but taking part that counted for me
ped

That sums it up for me.  It was fun.  And I think what made it even more fun was the MAD dash to get 'er done.

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 21, 2013, 01:03:53 AM
Quote from: quickster47 on March 20, 2013, 11:24:56 PM
That sums it up for me.  It was fun.  And I think what made it even more fun was the MAD dash to get 'er done.

Carl


Yeah, I worried my poor wife half to death sitting at the desk for a couple of hours fiddleing, searching and yes a few cuss words! She kept coming in every 10 minutes telling me I need to take a break and lie down for a bit.  ;D ;D


Bahh! I'll rest when I'm dead! Had to finish it....I was possessed....turns out I finished a day early though.
Yeah, it was fun!
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: sandpiper on March 21, 2013, 01:47:05 AM
Really like Chef's idea of household items being worked into the build, as long as it remains safe. Also like the idea of limited rules. Looking forward to seeing the builds and hopefully a lot of "thinking outside the box" builds   :-*  Going down to the workshop to dig through my stuff.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 21, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Seems like we've pretty much hashed things out?

1. Build what ever you want as long as it has at least one (1) Crosman part on it.

2. Deadline for posting 00:59 1 September 2013.

3. Six (6) pictures, one (1) being a 5 shot group target (annotated with distance and ammo used).

4. "People's Choice" (favorite gun by popular vote).


I have one question about "household item"....

Can I make a mount for a toilet plunger and call it a mono pod?   ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on March 21, 2013, 05:07:13 AM
I have one question about "household item"....

Can I make a mount for a toilet plunger and call it a mono pod?   ;D

You won't have to worry about the base moving around  :D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: sandpiper on March 21, 2013, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: chongman on March 21, 2013, 04:24:28 AM

I have one question about "household item"....

Can I make a mount for a toilet plunger and call it a mono pod?   ;D

Only if the plunger is still usable  :-*

PS. I love potty humor  ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: droid on March 21, 2013, 12:59:38 PM
Got me thinking that a toilet brush holder would make a nice bazooka firing plastic ball pit balls  :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 21, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: chongman on March 21, 2013, 04:24:28 AM
Seems like we've pretty much hashed things out?

1. Build what ever you want as long as it has at least one (1) Crosman part on it.

2. Deadline for posting 00:59 1 September 2013.

3. Six (6) pictures, one (1) being a 5 shot group target (annotated with distance and ammo used).

4. "People's Choice" (favorite gun by popular vote).

I have one question about "household item"....

Can I make a mount for a toilet plunger and call it a mono pod?   ;D

Alrighty then. I'm gonna need the extra time!  :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 21, 2013, 02:49:46 PM
The original Gauntlet was so impromptu, matter of fact, and KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) oriented that now we are heading towards over complicating Gauntlet II and I for one am worried all the fun factor will disappear.

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: droid on March 21, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
Quote from: quickster47 on March 21, 2013, 02:49:46 PM
The original Gauntlet was so impromptu, matter of fact, and KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) oriented that now we are heading towards over complicating Gauntlet II and I for one am worried all the fun factor will disappear.

Carl

I agree Carl, probably best not to have a fixed date but instead let Bert drop it on every one at two weeks notice. I liked the panic element of the last one.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 21, 2013, 04:32:23 PM
Quote from: droid on March 21, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
I agree Carl, probably best not to have a fixed date but instead let Bert drop it on every one at two weeks notice. I liked the panic element of the last one.

^^^ Yep - yep - yep.  :-* :-* :-*

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: JEBert on March 22, 2013, 03:30:13 AM
QuoteThe original Gauntlet was so impromptu, matter of fact, and KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) oriented that now we are heading towards over complicating Gauntlet II and I for one am worried all the fun factor will disappear.
Agree wholeheartedly!  Even if we let Bert drop the date at a two-week notice (which I also agree with to keep things interesting), we will be somewhat more prepared than last time with extra parts.
Another point I want to be clear on is, should we add a rule to not be able to cannibalize any part from another gun?  That 's what kept me from entering last time because I didn't have a tube or valve that wasn't already in a gun.  I thought it is understood that it has to be made completely from spare parts but I can't quite tell for sure.
Cheers,
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Davio on March 22, 2013, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: JEBert on March 22, 2013, 03:30:13 AM
I thought it is understood that it has to be made completely from spare parts but I can't quite tell for sure.
Nor would you be able to... rule or not.  8) ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: droid on March 22, 2013, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: Davio on March 22, 2013, 08:44:00 AM
Nor would you be able to... rule or not.  8) ;D

That's why I think you can't fairly or seriously judge anything like this and it is best just being a fun event.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 22, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
Using that train of thought and to be honest, I had two pistols and swapped parts so I could make a one into a stock 2240 for this month's comps. What I had leftover plus a few parts from the junk drawer made up my entry pistol. My thinking was if a gun is in parts, isn't it now considered parts?
OK Didn't win anyway, but I'll disqualify myself from the last comp. I should have enough parts for my next build though!
Rich
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 22, 2013, 01:15:53 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 22, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
OK Didn't win anyway, but I'll disqualify myself from the last comp.
Rich

You can't do that, it's against the rules, and that also includes the UNWRITTEN rules.  :P

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: droid on March 22, 2013, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 22, 2013, 01:11:42 PM
Using that train of thought and to be honest, I had two pistols and swapped parts so I could make a one into a stock 2240 for this month's comps. What I had leftover plus a few parts from the junk drawer made up my entry pistol. My thinking was if a gun is in parts, isn't it now considered parts?
OK Didn't win anyway, but I'll disqualify myself from the last comp. I should have enough parts for my next build though!
Rich

That's what most people did Rich, as it is a fun event it shouldn't matter how we do it.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 22, 2013, 01:20:05 PM
I'm going to finish the stubby off by polishing the original barrel you had on it, minus another inch so the disco site sits flush with the tube. Also a couple other little do dads.
Rich
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 22, 2013, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 22, 2013, 01:20:05 PM
I'm going to finish the stubby off by polishing the original barrel you had on it, minus another inch so the disco site sits flush with the tube. Also a couple other little do dads.
Rich

Hmmmmm... so a possibility of a couple of stubby/compacts may be in the line up  :D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: arkmaker † on March 22, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
Nah, it will not compete with yours or Carl's. Will be a cross between the two.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: dan_house on March 22, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Sooo we just announce our intentions to enter, or just show up at the deadline with a completed piece?
:)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on March 23, 2013, 01:32:15 AM
While we are all being honest, I haven't been at this long enough to have a surplus of parts, so most of mine would have been bought for the build. ???
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 23, 2013, 01:52:16 AM
Quote from: targettgii on March 23, 2013, 01:32:15 AM
While we are all being honest, I haven't been at this long enough to have a surplus of parts, so most of mine would have been bought for the build. ???

No worries mate. Wherever your parts come from it doesn't matter, buy, beg, trade, it's all good  :-*

Quote from: dan_house on March 22, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Sooo we just announce our intentions to enter, or just show up at the deadline with a completed piece?
:)

I propose we start a thread for entries and leave this going for questions and general discussion pertaining to Gauntlet II  :)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on March 23, 2013, 02:03:53 AM
Cool parts is parts, dang that means I have to spend money now dang :D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 23, 2013, 02:25:53 AM
I got a household item for one of my builds!

A fluorescent green plastic toothbrush and I know just what I'm going to make from it... no can't tell ya  ;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Brent on March 23, 2013, 03:55:03 AM
Quote from: arkmaker on March 18, 2013, 11:32:27 PM
I think the point of the last Gauntlet was to just do it and have fun. That's why it worked. Maybe I'm wrong, but once you start putting all kind of rules in place, the fun goes out of it and I predict that there will not be many entries. I'm probably wrong though.


Just me and maybe I'm a bit of a rebel and non conformist, but I just don't like building within set parameters as a hobby. I have to do that for a living  :(
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That's what I have been feeling and saying about the last Gauntlet too.  Glad to see this come around full circle. Now everyone can build something and bring it to the party... bling and/ or no bling... no worries. Just everyone having fun building a gun... and joining in. Cool  :)

Heck... I've even been considering and looking at building a new 10m shooter... this just gives me more reason to do so. Might just not show it off then if I do... until Sept now lol  ;)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 23, 2013, 03:23:42 PM
Carl you should put the deadline dates in the entry thread.
Mike
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 23, 2013, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 23, 2013, 03:23:42 PM
Carl you should put the deadline dates in the entry thread.
Mike

I will do that if we are all settled on the end date of 00:59 1 September 2013.

Are we going to wait for Brutuz to drop the ball and tell us when to start or is it a go ahead and do it right now thing?

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 23, 2013, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: quickster47 on March 23, 2013, 04:07:18 PM
I will do that if we are all settled on the end date of 00:59 1 September 2013.

Are we going to wait for Brutuz to drop the ball and tell us when to start or is it a go ahead and do it right now thing?

Carl

I would say good to go, i already ordered parts i'm ready bro's. But Brother Chongman should have the finally say it's his idea. Just my two cents that don't add up to much.
                 Mike
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: BigErn on March 23, 2013, 08:42:45 PM
I wish the deadline was a bit sooner, September seems sooooo far away.... But I understand why.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: gdm620 on March 24, 2013, 12:38:46 AM
Yea chongman when is it??   :P  Im ready :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D :) :) :) :) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 24, 2013, 12:49:31 AM
Quote from: gdm620 on March 24, 2013, 12:38:46 AM
Yea chongman when is it??   :P

Midnight September 1st 2013.

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 24, 2013, 12:58:01 AM
The band has left the field ( big applause for AC/DC for getting everyone fired up!), work benches have been set up with auxiliary lighting and Tina Turner has blown the whistle!

GO at it fellas :-*

If the deadline seems far away and your done early... build another  :D

Edit: sometimes I type so fast with two fingers I can't spell!
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Crosshairs on March 24, 2013, 01:40:49 AM
Quote from: chongman on March 24, 2013, 12:58:01 AM
The band has left the field ( bid applause for AC/DC for getting everyone fired up!), work benches have been set up with auxiliary lighting and Tina Turner has blown the whistle!

GO at it fellas :-*

If the deadline seems far away and your done early... build another  :D
Ok two it is.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: quickster47 † on March 24, 2013, 02:14:04 AM
Do you guys realize that there is five (5) months till September the 1st?

Man, I'm going on vacation for four months.

Carl
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 24, 2013, 02:42:34 AM
Quote from: quickster47 on March 24, 2013, 02:14:04 AM
Do you guys realize that there is five (5) months till September the 1st?

Man, I'm going on vacation for four months.

Carl

I'm wasting no candle light here (pages flipping in my build idea notepad...) Ya, two guns is quite possible  ;)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: sandpiper on March 24, 2013, 03:44:15 AM
hmmmm, does it have to shoot pellets or bb's, I have something else in mind but can't tell  ;D
Crazy ideas going through my head but I settled on one  :)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on March 24, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
You have my attention, do it  :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Brent on March 24, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
Quote from: sandpiper on March 24, 2013, 03:44:15 AM
hmmmm, does it have to shoot pellets or bb's, I have something else in mind but can't tell  ;D
Crazy ideas going through my head but I settled on one  :)

Hmm... this sounds interesting.....  ;) :-*
Hope you decide to build it  :-*

Thanks CM for clearing the way for it!  :-* :)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: sandpiper on March 24, 2013, 08:50:18 PM
Quote from: Brent on March 24, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
Hmm... this sounds interesting.....  ;) :-*
Hope you decide to build it  :-*

Thanks CM for clearing the way for it!  :-* :)

I have a theme in mind but figuring out how to shoot what I want to shoot is going to be a challenge. All I can say is Crosman has done something very similiar before, it'll be safe, it'll be cool and that's all I'm going to say  :-X
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Davio on March 25, 2013, 05:02:36 AM
Quote from: sandpiper on March 24, 2013, 08:50:18 PM
I have a theme in mind but figuring out how to shoot what I want to shoot is going to be a challenge. All I can say is Crosman has done something very similiar before, it'll be safe, it'll be cool and that's all I'm going to say  :-X

... just as long as you don't have to send it to "filling station" to get it refilled.  :) Can you imagine what that must have been like?  ???
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Rualert on March 27, 2013, 06:36:42 PM
     OK, I'm in, might not be the queen of the ball, but I have more than enough spare parts to put together something fun.

Casey
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on June 07, 2013, 12:28:56 AM
^ Bump  :D

It's been awhile so I figured to bump this up and see how things are going.  CAPOF has lots of new members that may not know anything about Gauntlet II, the forums "Show & Tell" of the custom air gun/pistol world.

Heard word from BigErn that he was getting things happening down in Florida so so it's time to get busy!

Just so you know, and I'm rubbing it in now... I got my grips in today's mail!
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: BigErn on June 07, 2013, 12:42:13 AM
Double bump  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  bling it on!!!
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Davio on June 07, 2013, 02:26:31 AM
I think BigErn is up to something !   ???
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: bgmcgee on June 07, 2013, 02:37:37 AM
Quote from: Davio on June 07, 2013, 02:26:31 AM
I think BigErn is up to something !   ???
This could be dangerous  :P
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Gippeto on June 07, 2013, 02:39:32 AM
Something is in the works... ;)

Al
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Brent on June 07, 2013, 03:28:35 AM
Quote from: chongman on June 07, 2013, 12:28:56 AM
Just so you know, and I'm rubbing it in now... I got my grips in today's mail!
Grips in the mail  :o :o

There's new news  :o
I thought you were carving a set... that's what you were showing us a while back ;) ???
Something's not right with this picture ;) ;D

The bar just keeps getting higher and higher ;)
Already expected it from BigErn though.............
;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on June 07, 2013, 03:52:24 AM
Ahhh, the Maple grips... Yes, they are "carved" and ready to have a finish applied but I had this set of exotic wood grips on order and I was not sure I would get them in time!
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: Brent on June 07, 2013, 03:57:40 AM
Quote from: chongman on June 07, 2013, 03:52:24 AM
Ahhh, the Maple grips... Yes, they are "carved" and ready to have a finish applied but I had this set of exotic wood grips on order and I was not sure I would get them in time!
"Exotic"  :o :o
Ah geeze... the plot thickens.....
;D
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: bgmcgee on June 10, 2013, 03:57:38 PM
Question??? If I use an existing pistol I have tear it down use some existing parts plus some new parts does this qualify?  I don't have the parts for a complete new gun or the funds,means or abilities to make one from scratch.
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on June 10, 2013, 04:13:00 PM
Yes sir, you sure can  :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: bgmcgee on June 10, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
Cool. I just might have to do it then. And it just might have at least one very special part anyways  ;)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: chongman on June 23, 2013, 08:37:55 PM
I hope you guys are doing some Air Gun Magic in your caves and dungeons!

This time I expect it will be serious all out Concours d' Elegance type of event.  Remember... there is no box to think outside of, it's a big circle so go all the way around with your ideas ;)
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: slivershooter on August 06, 2013, 03:14:34 AM
So if I want to enter my mod I post the info and pics on this thread????????? Have patients I'm a newbie
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: targettgii on August 06, 2013, 03:26:47 AM
No there is another post in the Gallery. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: "Gauntlet II" Looking for input...
Post by: BigErn on August 06, 2013, 03:27:28 AM
Here you go  :-*

http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10715.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10715.0.html)