Pellets were weighed using a Sartorius scientific scale ( the type if you wave your hand over, it picks up the wind )
20 pellets all were 14.3 to 14.5 = very good :-*
Shot 10 rounds with the 2240 and a BSA red dot at 5m = it likes them :-*
The two upper shots were me, not the gun or the pellets ..... >:(
Very impressive !!
Thanks for being our tester :-*
Quote from: sandpiper on May 08, 2012, 04:05:45 PM
Thanks for being our tester :-*
a little pricy, I think they shoot better than the cphp, in this gun anyway, time will tell .... :-*
lets see a pic of the pellet?
I am becoming convinced that at 5M and 10M ranges, most any pellet shoots very accurately. When increasing range is when you start to see much different results.
Quote from: 1377x on May 08, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
lets see a pic of the pellet?
Best I can do today, my other camera is at the office.....
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 08, 2012, 05:14:34 PM
I am becoming convinced that at 5M and 10M ranges, most any pellet shoots very accurately. When increasing range is when you start to see much different results.
While that may be somewhat true, my 2300 with the LW barrel hates Crosman match ....
Quote from: KevinP on May 08, 2012, 04:08:58 PM
a little pricy, I think they shoot better than the cphp, in this gun anyway, time will tell .... :-*
I'm a big fan of the Crosman HP's. I tried others from Gamo's to H&N Sports and always lean back toward the Crosmans. The price is nice as well.
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 08, 2012, 05:14:34 PM
I am becoming convinced that at 5M and 10M ranges, most any pellet shoots very accurately. When increasing range is when you start to see much different results.
tell that to my rws meisters' they shoot like a shotgun out of my .22 barrels everything else including rws super pointed shoot great
Do you think WW will start carrying them?
Quote from: KevinP on May 08, 2012, 02:40:34 PM
Pellets were weighed using a Sartorius scientific scale ( the type if you wave your hand over, it picks up the wind )
20 pellets all were 14.3 to 14.5 = very good :-*
Shot 10 rounds with the 2240 and a BSA red dot at 5m = it likes them :-*
The two upper shots were me, not the gun or the pellets ..... >:(
Was this rested or off-hand?
Great shooting!
Quote from: AZAG on May 09, 2012, 08:30:35 AM
Was this rested or off-hand?
Great shooting!
Thanks, it's the gun not me... rested ...
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 08, 2012, 05:14:34 PM
I am becoming convinced that at 5M and 10M ranges, most any pellet shoots very accurately. When increasing range is when you start to see much different results.
I have definitely not found that to be the case. If a gun doesn't like a pellet at 20m then it doesn't like it at 5m either. It may be more obvious at 20m than 5m, but it doesn't like the pellet at any distance.
where did you order the pellet from?
Got them from Crosman the day they put them up ....
if walmart starts selling them i hope they make the cheapo alloy version destroyerEX. i like the expansion characteristics of them and it'll be fun to do another round of testing comparing the .22 versions. i have a feeling im going to be waiting a while to get some. i plan on ordering mine from pyramydAir and i bet theyll be sold out within an hour of releasing them on the 15th
Quote from: 1377x on May 08, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
lets see a pic of the pellet?
Quote from: KevinP on May 08, 2012, 05:17:32 PM
Best I can do today, my other camera is at the office.....
Nice pic of tin. Now how about one of an actual pellet, please.
hey man, he said it was the best he could do today.
i'd rather wait and see a nice crisp closeup than a blurry piece of crap taken with a cellphone camera
Quote from: millipede on May 09, 2012, 06:41:58 PM
hey man, he said it was the best he could do today.
i'd rather wait and see a nice crisp closeup than a blurry piece of crap taken with a cellphone camera
;D ;D ;D Was at office today for a bit .... forgot to bring camera home ... sorry ...
But .. they look just like the .177 .... just bigger :-*
Quote from: millipede on May 09, 2012, 06:41:58 PM
hey man, he said it was the best he could do today.
i'd rather wait and see a nice crisp closeup than a blurry piece of crap taken with a cellphone camera
What ever he used for the tin and target would do. Just what to know what shape they are.
Quote from: cmj21973 on May 09, 2012, 07:10:37 PM
What ever he used for the tin and target would do. Just what to know what shape they are.
sounds good to me!
looks good enough to get an idea.
by the way where did you order them from???
Quote from: 1377x on May 09, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
sounds good to me!
looks good enough to get an idea.
by the way where did you order them from???
Got them from Crosman the day they put them up ....
Just ordered some from Crosman....I really like my Premiere hollow points but they seem to be a little inconsistent at times. These destroyers are more expensive, that's for sure! Hope they are worth it. I can get 500 of the hollow points at 1/3 the price of these bad boys. That's figuring in having to ship them to me when I can get my hollow points at the local Wally Mart....
Quote from: KevinP on May 09, 2012, 07:29:13 PM
Got them from Crosman the day they put them up ....
was shipping $30?
WHAT? S&H $30?
I had to check. I won't be ordering online from Crosman. They are $19.21 for one tin of 175ct.
I'll wait to get them from PA 3+1, depending on S&H from there. http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Crosman_Destroyer_Pellets_22_Cal_14_3_Grains_Pointed_Expanding_175ct/1023 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Crosman_Destroyer_Pellets_22_Cal_14_3_Grains_Pointed_Expanding_175ct/1023)
QuoteI have definitely not found that to be the case. If a gun doesn't like a pellet at 20m then it doesn't like it at 5m either. It may be more obvious at 20m than 5m, but it doesn't like the pellet at any distance.
X2.
Cheers,
I got 3 tins of the 175ct and it ran $22.50 for the pellets and $15.00 for shipping and handling.....wasn't thrilled with the extra cost but I couldn't do better anywhere else at this point so I figured WTF. Even looked for any online Crosman promo codes but none available that worked...wanted to see if I could lower that total a bit.
That PA deal is a good one...whenever they get back in stock. Unless they charge a ridiculous price for shipping.
Quote from: cmj21973 on May 10, 2012, 02:43:49 AM
WHAT? S&H $30?
I had to check. I won't be ordering online from Crosman. They are $19.21 for one tin of 175ct.
I'll wait to get them from PA 3+1, depending on S&H from there. http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Crosman_Destroyer_Pellets_22_Cal_14_3_Grains_Pointed_Expanding_175ct/1023 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Crosman_Destroyer_Pellets_22_Cal_14_3_Grains_Pointed_Expanding_175ct/1023)
gee whiz!!!
i could go to the range and buy 200 rounds of 22lr for that price
Time to wipeout Walmart!
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Hollow-Point-.22cal-Pellets-500ct/19866109?findingMethod=rr (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Hollow-Point-.22cal-Pellets-500ct/19866109?findingMethod=rr)
The .177 Destroyers did not shoot to well for me at any distance; glad the .22's are fairing a better, maybe Crosman has a winner here. How about pushing them on out in 5-meter incriments. At 25-yards my .177 groups start to open up, but if memory serves I was holding 2 - 2.5" groups with Crosman Premier Lights... never cared for the hollow points when target shooting... actually I don't care for them at all. :)
I'm okay with the hollow points for target shooting....I know they could be better. I will shoot some of the Destroyer 22's at targets but will want to keep some/most for pest control I guess. I may have missed the comment, but what gun are you shooting? I'm shooting my 2240. Also what would you suggest as the best target shooting pellet for a 2240.
Quote from: bradpsu on May 10, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
I'm okay with the hollow points for target shooting....I know they could be better. I will shoot some of the Destroyer 22's at targets but will want to keep some/most for pest control I guess. I may have missed the comment, but what gun are you shooting? I'm shooting my 2240. Also what would you suggest as the best target shooting pellet for a 2240.
it depends on what the gun likes and the shooter
jsb pellets seem to do good in most guns
try some jsb's or rws hobby's and meisterkugeln
Meisterkugeln????? Was zur Hölle sind sie? ;D
Quote from: bradpsu on May 10, 2012, 11:45:55 PM
Meisterkugeln????? Was zur Hölle sind sie? ;D
rws wadcutters look them up on pyramyd air
Did you follow my Deutsche / German there?
Quote from: bradpsu on May 11, 2012, 03:51:20 AM
Did you follow my Deutsche / German there?
i cant tell german from japanese from hieroglyphs.if its not written in english then its over my head,
heck even some english is over my head :P
Quote from: bradpsu on May 11, 2012, 03:51:20 AM
Did you follow my Deutsche / German there?
I did a Bing search on, "Was zur Hölle sind sie?"
Knew it was German and now I know somewhat it means.
http://en.bab.la/dictionary/german-english/was-zur-hoelle-sind-sie (http://en.bab.la/dictionary/german-english/was-zur-hoelle-sind-sie)
to hell are they? ???
It's "What the hell are they?".....was referring to his use of "meisterkugeln"
Quote from: bradpsu on May 11, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
It's "What the hell are they?".....was referring to his use of "meisterkugeln"
This:
http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-pellets--177-meisterkugeln.html (http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-pellets--177-meisterkugeln.html)
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=meisterkugeln+pellets&FORM=BIFD (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=meisterkugeln+pellets&FORM=BIFD)
Babelfish translates meisterkugeln as "master balls."
That would be the translation.....well my 22 Destroyers have shipped and will be here Monday via the little brown truck.
Well I've only shot around 25 rounds so far (with a cartridge replacement necessary a few shots into that number) and I have to say I'm not all that impressed so far by these 22 destroyers. Some spot on and others seem to have a mind of their own as to where they want to go....will be shooting some more today and tomorrow and see if I can have kinder things to say. At this point the hollow points are better accuracy wise.
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 08, 2012, 05:14:34 PM
I am becoming convinced that at 5M and 10M ranges, most any pellet shoots very accurately. When increasing range is when you start to see much different results.
I think this is true of the better quality pellets, there are cheap pellets out there that are absolute trash. It also depends on your definition of accurate. In a general hobby, plinking, since it's true. If your talking competitive 10 meter shooting, pellet selection is very important. I buy H&N finali match pistol pellets and then hand sort them to plus or minus 1.5 sigma by weight. It makes a difference.
PA is the better deal for Crosman .22 Destroyers. The 3+1 deal is $14.97 + $7.99 for S&H, total $22.96. :-*
S&H depends on your zip code.
Will be one of several goodies I'll order come payday.
PA : 4 tins; 700 pellets for $22.96 (.0328 cents per pellet)
Crosman: 1 tin; 175 pellets for $19.21 (.1097 cents per pellet)
Well I have to say that I'm not really a fan of the Crosman 22 destroyers....very inconsistent. They even go into my 2240 a bit roughly....the bolt seems to want to hang up a bit when loading them in. Perhaps that explains why I'm having the accuracy issues. Using D.C.'s long nose SS bolt but can't imagine that would be causing any issues. Just got back from the dreaded Wally Mart and picked up another tin of the Crosman hollow points....much better in both accuracy and consistency for me and my 2240. Hate to say it but I think the purchase of the destroyers was a waste of money. Live and learn I guess.
Quote from: bradpsu on May 17, 2012, 08:41:15 PM
Well I have to say that I'm not really a fan of the Crosman 22 destroyers....very inconsistent. They even go into my 2240 a bit roughly....the bolt seems to want to hang up a bit when loading them in. Perhaps that explains why I'm having the accuracy issues. Using D.C.'s long nose SS bolt but can't imagine that would be causing any issues. Just got back from the dreaded Wally Mart and picked up another tin of the Crosman hollow points....much better in both accuracy and consistency for me and my 2240. Hate to say it but I think the purchase of the destroyers was a waste of money. Live and learn I guess.
how many rounds do you have through your 2240?
i had a gun that wouldnt shoot jsb monsters right.it had a new barrel barrel on it.ran a bunch of cphp through it,then the monsters liked the barrel
I've run about 75 through.....and it's not liking them much. I get a few that are pretty spot on and then the same number seem to fly all over the place.....no where close to where I'm aiming. And just to be clear I'm shooting from an MTM pistol rest at approximately 5 meters with a UTG red dot that has been very accurate. This is the same MTM rest at which nearly all of my hollow points find their mark. And after the issues with the destroyers I've loaded Crosman hollow points and had no accuracy issues. I have to say other than "shooting in a new gun" I don't see how it's possible for a gun that is "shot in" to not like the destroyers and then after shooting a bunch more of them it somehow miraculously starts to like them and shoot them accurately. Makes no logical sense to me...maybe I'm just clueless to some previously unknown form of gun/ammunition physics. If that is what you are suggesting...maybe I'm taking your comments wrong.
not every barrel will like a certain pellet
my 2250 barrel so far had shot everything great except the rws meisterkugln, hope i spelled that right.
i should have said how many rounds of all pellets made it down the pipe?
Have probably put about 5-600 down it so far. I do think it's a case of my barrel not liking the destroyers....and I don't think that will change. Seems to like the hollow points. Want to get some of the filed target premiers to try them at some point...I guess before that I should try the regular Crosman domed and see how the guns likes them first.
I should also add that while all this was going on I was in the market for another Crosman...the Nitro Venom 22 cal Break barrel rifle...upon watching a video review of the gun, provided by a fellow member on here, the reviewer commented on how dirty the barrels bore was fresh out of the box from Crosman....worse than he had ever seen. He had to clean it before testing it because it was so fouled with "dirt". That got me to thinking that "maybe" mine was filthy too....just a little added info.