Here are my initial thoughts on this pistol. After it was unpacked I noticed a few things. All the stock screws were loose, the gun has lots of oil all over it, and the rear sight was not mounted correctly. After I took care of those things I began to play with it a bit.
The gun is HEAVY! Feels a bit off balance I think. Heavy up front. Will be challenging to hold without a rest of some kind. It looks well made and the plastic looks sturdy and not cheap. The gun is a bit louder than I expected but that may change as I use it more. I think my Trail rifle is a bit more quiet for now.
The gun feels like it has some very good power. It has a bit of a kick to it but very smooth. The cocking of this gun is pretty hard. I tried cocking it without the cocking assist and it was very difficult so it will stay on for me, plus it looks cool 8) Cocking the gun at first was a bit rough but smooth out after about 30 shots. A bit of smoke out the barrel but not much at all.
The trigger is not as sweet as I was hoping but it's not bad at all. The trigger pull is a bit long but predictable. The trigger is adjustable. I played with the adjustment a bit but found it was good the way it came. Overall I'm happy with the trigger as is.
I only had time to shoot about 50 shots yesterday but I noticed some things. I tried a BSA red dot sight on but after a few shots the sight would creep backwards no matter how hard it was tightened so I couldn't really see what it can do. Then I put the stock rear sight on and was shooting well but that also creeped backwards after a few shots. Last night I put the red dot back on with some Loctite. We will see if that holds.
I think this gun will shoot very well once I get the sight on without any movement. I hope today I can get it sighted in and take some target pics. Today we are forecasted heavy rains and crap weather so I might not be able to do much of anything with it. Today I'll also clean the barrel with some GooGone and just admire it I guess :D. The gun fits perfectly in a large hard pistol case if anyone wants to know.
Ok now on to the pics :)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img546/8435/dscn2230a.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img27/8459/dscn2234kk.jpg)
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(http://imageshack.us/a/img51/1806/dscn2242g.jpg)
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Nice review! How loud is it compared to a 2240?
Rich
Quote from: arkmaker on April 05, 2013, 05:20:52 PM
Nice review! How loud is it compared to a 2240?
Rich
Thanks Rich :-* I'm terrible at reviews :-[ It's not as loud as a 2240. It was getting quieter after more use. I don't think I'll have time with it today but will report next time about the loudness.
Thanks Big E......great pics and nice review :-*
Excellent review Ern... and great pics too! Thanks for taking the time to do this. :-*
Yes, a hard hitting spring gun is gonna make sights or scopes move, is there a stop-pin hole near or at the end of the dovetails?
Excellent pics! On springer pistols I shoot where sighting options move back on the dovetails, I pick up a BKL dovetail to weaver mount. They will not move, ever. RC
Great review BigErn!
I wonder if an adapter with more contact area would grip that dovetail better, as RC mantioned. I doubt there's a stop pin hole. Did you see any effects from the cocking device as others have?
It sure looks nice in those pics! Well done. Looking forward to hearing more.
Thanks for the post.... still on the fence with this so to speak ... :-*
Thanks BigErn :-*
Quote from: RC1947 on April 05, 2013, 06:18:20 PM
Excellent pics! On springer pistols I shoot where sighting options move back on the dovetails, I pick up a BKL dovetail to weaver mount. They will not move, ever. RC
Ya, BKL are a nice pc of work, a single pc of aluminum mill-slotted to create a calmping rail and 4 or 5 screws to hold e'm in place right? They also center up perfectly on the gun, waaay better than the conventional 2 pc stuff from China.
The review with the pics I was hoping to see. Top notch Ern, thanks!
Nice job Ern the good looks better in your pictures then in Crosmans pictures.
Mike
Quote from: Crosshairs on April 06, 2013, 12:17:04 AM
Nice job Ern the good looks better in your pictures then in Crosmans pictures.
Mike
It does actually :-*
Was thinking the same thing :)
congrats!
nice looking shooter
great review!
BigErn, thanks for taking the time to post your review. There seems to be a lot of consensus on this gun and so far it is looking pretty good. Only more time will really tell in the long run as it gets out in to more and more user's hands.
Great set of pictures and overall a great review.
Carl
Pistol looks fantastic at your place Ernesto :-*
Quote from: Crosshairs on April 06, 2013, 12:17:04 AM
Nice job Ern the good looks better in your pictures then in Crosmans pictures.
Mike
+1 Great review sir. I hope the red dot tightens up for you.
Quote from: Fronzdan on April 05, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
Great review BigErn!
I wonder if an adapter with more contact area would grip that dovetail better, as RC mantioned. I doubt there's a stop pin hole. Did you see any effects from the cocking device as others have?
It sure looks nice in those pics! Well done. Looking forward to hearing more.
Thanks! I tried the UTG adapter mount and it would not sit straight. The Trail breech is more round and the UTG mount is more flat so it was off to one side >:( There is no stop pin hole on the breech. The gun shoots better without the device but it's really hard to cock without it too. I only took a few shots without the device and it grouped well. I think you guys will be pleased with just the stock sights.
do you have a chrony?
any numbers?
Quote from: 1377x on April 06, 2013, 09:38:35 PM
do you have a chrony?
any numbers?
No chrony Ed :(
I spent some time yesterday with this pistol. The gun WILL NOT group well with the cocking assist! It's all over the place with it on. Without it it shoots very well. I just got used to cocking it without the assist. After a while my hand started to hurt so I put the assist on to cock it then then removed it for shooting. Not too bad but sucks that it is the only way for the gun to shoot well. So if you are thinking about getting this one forget about having the cocking assist on all the time. The trigger is getting a bit smoother after some use. The gun is almost as loud as 2240 in case anyone was wondering :)
I got mine yesterday from PA and I really want to like this pistol but I cannot site this thing in with the open sites.
To the point where there is barely any thread holding I am still 10" low.
If I take the knob off and let the site be sprung out then I am 5" too high.
Is anyone else having this type of problem?
Otherwise my groups are tight and I like the feel and action of the pistol.
I hate sending stuff back but this may have to go.
I would appreciate any feedback.
Quote from: willc on April 14, 2013, 11:46:18 PM
I got mine yesterday from PA and I really want to like this pistol but I cannot site this thing in with the open sites.
To the point where there is barely any thread holding I am still 10" low.
If I take the knob off and let the site be sprung out then I am 5" too high.
Is anyone else having this type of problem?
Otherwise my groups are tight and I like the feel and action of the pistol.
I hate sending stuff back but this may have to go.
I would appreciate any feedback.
You are shooting with or without the assist attached? At 10" too low I'll go ahead and assume its attached shooting that low...I had mine shooting right on target with a few threads left on the sight. Maybe only 2-3 turns in.
Take that plastic off the barrel if you haven't already.
All shooting was done with the assist off.
After all I had read I did not even care to try leaving it on.
Not sure what is up but I think I got a dud.
OK, here we go. The Trail NP is junk! Here is one of the reasons it does not shoot well. I have read alot of posts about the "crown" on the muzzle of the barrel afecting the accuracy. Well, this gun does not have a crown. My 1377,1322 and my 2240 all have the end of the barrel out past the plastic sight. Now the crown comes into effect. Look at the picture and you will see that the Trail NP barrel is back into the plastic sight about 1/2", this effects the pellet when it leaves the barrel. Add on the cocking device, and it get nuts. This is IMO.
PA has pushed the release date out to 4-29-2013. LOL
Though no one should have to do it, an easy fix. Open up the site and 're-crown ???
Quote from: arkmaker on April 16, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
Though no one should have to do it, an easy fix. Open up the site and 're-crown ???
I think the crown is good. The problem is the cocking assist tube creating accuracy issues, it might be too big/long. I had a similar issue with the C31 project I was working on a while back. The gun would shoot horrible with big muzzle brakes on. I tried several different sizes of brakes and found out the smallest one was the only one that would work. I don't have the gun with me but does anyone know the OD of the barrel? I hope it's 15mm cuz I haz an idea :)
u haz? Those, from you, are always interesting. RC
Quote from: RC1947 on April 16, 2013, 10:26:09 PM
u haz? Those, from you, are always interesting. RC
LOL
Yes they are! :-*
You guys are so funny lol!! Here is my idea... if the OD of the barrel is 15mm, and I think it is then the QB79 all metal muzzle brake from Archer's will fit perfectly and can be used as the cocking aid :) I have one on my Winchester and it's really nice! Or any other 15mm brakes out there. I know there are a few of them.
15mm is another popular airgun barrel OD I believe. I have a 15mm brake from a Beretta CX4 Storm I want to try on but I have the gun at my parents house right now >:( The end that has the set screws on the Beretta brake is made of metal which hopefully is strong enough to use the brake as a cocking aid too. That is the plan but that brake can only slide in about an inch or so. When I get a chance I will try it if the barrel is finally 15mm, we will see :-*
Quote from: BigErn on April 16, 2013, 08:53:26 PM
I think the crown is good. The problem is the cocking assist tube creating accuracy issues, it might be too big/long. I had a similar issue with the C31 project I was working on a while back. The gun would shoot horrible with big muzzle brakes on. I tried several different sizes of brakes and found out the smallest one was the only one that would work. I don't have the gun with me but does anyone know the OD of the barrel? I hope it's 15mm cuz I haz an idea :)
The OD on mine is .591. Measured with a Mitutoyo dial calipeter. Hope this helps.
Ok, the barrel is 15mm :-* :-* :-* The Beretta CX4 brake works perfectly! It was shooting really good with it until I noticed my red dot had creeped all the way back on the dovetail even with the Loctite >:( I tried to tighten it but the screw was already stripped >:( I think this will finally fix the cocking assist accuracy problem and it looks really cool!!!! I will be putting my NcStar pistol scope on it next. I'll post pics later :-*
It was shooting really good with it until I noticed my red dot had creeped all the way back on the dovetail even with the Loctite
Can you drill a small hole and put a stop pin in to stop the creep ?
Quote from: KevinP on April 18, 2013, 10:27:12 PM
It was shooting really good with it until I noticed my red dot had creeped all the way back on the dovetail even with the Loctite
Can you drill a small hole and put a stop pin in to stop the creep ?
Not sure Kevin, I'm too scared to try that and ruin the gun :-[ so I'll just try the scope with rings and more Loctite. That should hold better than the red dot. The gun may have actually broken the red dot sight. I'm almost sure of it. I'm not giving up on this gun just yet, I think this will be a great gun once I'm done with it :-*
:-* :-*
Quote from: BigErn on April 18, 2013, 11:02:15 PM
Not sure Kevin, I'm too scared to try that and ruin the gun :-[ so I'll just try the scope with rings and more Loctite. That should hold better than the red dot. The gun may have actually broken the red dot sight. I'm almost sure of it. I'm not giving up on this gun just yet, I think this will be a great gun once I'm done with it :-*
BigErn; I was shooting mine yesterday and noticed the rear sight moving also. To fix it, I just moved it to the rear as far as it would go. No more movement. I also noticed that the front sight is too high. If you raise the rear sight up all the way and put the front sight , where the fiber is, up on the notch, you will hit the circle of a dime. Mine likes the Gamo hunter dome pellets. It shoots 1" low with flat nose match pellets. I'm about ready to take the front sight off and cut the end off and the fiber optic off and see what that does.
Quote from: mudduck48 on April 18, 2013, 11:15:47 PM
BigErn; I was shooting mine yesterday and noticed the rear sight moving also. To fix it, I just moved it to the rear as far as it would go. No more movement. I also noticed that the front sight is too high. If you raise the rear sight up all the way and put the front sight , where the fiber is, up on the notch, you will hit the circle of a dime. Mine likes the Gamo hunter dome pellets. It shoots 1" low with flat nose match pellets. I'm about ready to take the front sight off and cut the end off and the fiber optic off and see what that does.
Hey mud the front sight just slips off! Give it a little twist from side to side and pull, easy! Don't try to twist all the way around since it has a flat spot for the front sight, just a bit...
Here it is with the brake I had. It works great as a cocking aid and this brake was designed to have pellets go through it accurately :) When I change the sight on the pistol I will give an update of the accuracy :-*
(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2696/dscn2252c.jpg)
Great pics Mr. BIgE :-* Clean surroundings and all 8)
Very well done Big E :-* Thank you for sharing innovations and being pioneer on this one glad you were willing :-*
If your dovetail mounts continue to slip here is a tip I got on the green:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/message/1366132437/One+piece+mounts%28they+don%27t+have+to+be+expensive%29+and+a+tiny+smear (http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/message/1366132437/One+piece+mounts%28they+don%27t+have+to+be+expensive%29+and+a+tiny+smear)
Nice work Ern! For mounting scopes on piston guns, a one piece BKL mount will not move. RC
Looking good Ern. :-*
Mike
Cool tip Wyo! :-*
She looks great BigErn!! :) :-*
Very nice solution to the problem! Better than stock even!!
I like that break! Who makes that?
Quote from: Brent on April 19, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
Cool tip Wyo! :-*
She looks great BigErn!! :) :-*
Very nice solution to the problem! Better than stock even!!
I like that break! Who makes that?
Thanks Brent! Got it from PA. Here is the link. Archer also has a very nice all metal brake that would also fit perfectly.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Umarex_Compensator_Fits_Hammerli_850_Walther_1250_Dominator_Beretta_CX4_Rifles/1135 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Umarex_Compensator_Fits_Hammerli_850_Walther_1250_Dominator_Beretta_CX4_Rifles/1135)
Quote from: WyoMan on April 19, 2013, 03:51:44 PM
Very well done Big E :-* Thank you for sharing innovations and being pioneer on this one glad you were willing :-*
If your dovetail mounts continue to slip here is a tip I got on the green:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/message/1366132437/One+piece+mounts%28they+don%27t+have+to+be+expensive%29+and+a+tiny+smear (http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/message/1366132437/One+piece+mounts%28they+don%27t+have+to+be+expensive%29+and+a+tiny+smear)
Thanks Wyo! That's a great tip thanks for sharing :-*
Quote from: RC1947 on April 19, 2013, 04:00:55 PM
Nice work Ern! For mounting scopes on piston guns, a one piece BKL mount will not move. RC
I will try that RC :-* Do you happen to have a pic of that one piece mount? The reason I ask is that the dovetail on the pistol is kinda round. I know the UTG dovetail to weaver adapter will not work on this one because that one is flat on the bottom. I have a feeling this gun might be a scope and dot sight killer :D
Two more pics I took yesterday with the new brake.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img689/5935/dscn2253a.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img27/4456/dscn2254n.jpg)
looks way much nice ... what about poi ... problem solved ?
Very nice Ern, it will not only BE better but looks 100% better too :-*
If that BSA dot keeps moving on you, get a very narrow dovetail to weaver type mount for it like this one, it has 4 screws and will stay in place. Those thumbscrews on the BSA sights are too wimpy for a spring gun mount. Your BSA mounts can be flipped over to use the weaver side and the screw shanks will lock into the weaver grooves. :-*
Various BKL choices. Made in Texas very solid. RC
http://www.pyramydair.com/search-results-ext?Ntt=bkl+mounts&sid=1375A617A415&N=0&Ntk=primary&q=bkl+mounts&cx=002970863286801882398:jlcminxfwdw&cof=FORID:11;NB:1&saSearch&jsessionid=6F61FA6EED1DA9C4C5D6BA0B5173476C.app02 (http://www.pyramydair.com/search-results-ext?Ntt=bkl+mounts&sid=1375A617A415&N=0&Ntk=primary&q=bkl+mounts&cx=002970863286801882398:jlcminxfwdw&cof=FORID:11;NB:1&saSearch&jsessionid=6F61FA6EED1DA9C4C5D6BA0B5173476C.app02)
Quote from: RC1947 on April 19, 2013, 06:56:33 PM
Various BKL choices. Made in Texas very solid. RC
http://www.pyramydair.com/search-results-ext?Ntt=bkl+mounts&sid=1375A617A415&N=0&Ntk=primary&q=bkl+mounts&cx=002970863286801882398:jlcminxfwdw&cof=FORID:11;NB:1&saSearch&jsessionid=6F61FA6EED1DA9C4C5D6BA0B5173476C.app02 (http://www.pyramydair.com/search-results-ext?Ntt=bkl+mounts&sid=1375A617A415&N=0&Ntk=primary&q=bkl+mounts&cx=002970863286801882398:jlcminxfwdw&cof=FORID:11;NB:1&saSearch&jsessionid=6F61FA6EED1DA9C4C5D6BA0B5173476C.app02)
RC those are the ones I need! I see the bottom of those mounts are round. I agree with Brian that the screw nuts on the BSA sight are too wimpy for this gun. The sights have to be installed all the way back so it doesn't slide back because it will!
Now I have to order one and a new sight or a scope because I think the gun killed the BSA. One of the screw nuts is already stripped and the dot seemed to drop down alot all of a sudden so I think it's dead.
With red dots, I've found a picatinny rail will hold because of the slots, regardless of the wimpy mounts on red dots. I like the BKL one piece cantilever scope mounts. NCStar 2 or 2.5x pistol scopes will take the punishment of piston guns. I use 4 and never one problem, and, they're inexpensive. RC
another note: if you use a pistol scope, this mount would be my first choice - more options to establish proper eye relief - the 4" version is too long for a pistol scope, or a bug buster.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BKL_1_Pc_Mount_1_Rings_3_8_or_11mm_Dovetail_3_Long_Matte_Black/2883 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BKL_1_Pc_Mount_1_Rings_3_8_or_11mm_Dovetail_3_Long_Matte_Black/2883)
Quote from: RC1947 on April 19, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
With red dots, I've found a picatinny rail will hold because of the slots, regardless of the wimpy mounts on red dots. I like the BKL one piece cantilever scope mounts. NCStar 2 or 2.5x pistol scopes will take the punishment of piston guns. I use 4 and never one problem, and, they're inexpensive. RC
another note: if you use a pistol scope, this mount would be my first choice - more options to establish proper eye relief - the 4" version is too long for a pistol scope, or a bug buster.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BKL_1_Pc_Mount_1_Rings_3_8_or_11mm_Dovetail_3_Long_Matte_Black/2883 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BKL_1_Pc_Mount_1_Rings_3_8_or_11mm_Dovetail_3_Long_Matte_Black/2883)
That one looks real nice RC, I like it. I have one of those scopes and they are nice. I was going to take it of my 2240 and put it on the Trail.
Yes BKLs are nice and affordable..I have one like that in transit to the Phils. as well as a dual strap style..Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/pyra3_zps0c496c38.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/pyra2_zps37cf1f80.jpg)
Quote from: BigErn on April 19, 2013, 05:47:01 PM
Two more pics I took yesterday with the new brake.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img689/5935/dscn2253a.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img27/4456/dscn2254n.jpg)
Nice break BigErn... Did you make it? I'd like to do something to mine... been sick as a dog, it hit me about 3 days ago. Highest temp been 103.8 lowest 102... Heck I forgot how to send a text message last night :o think I'm gonna ride the storm out, if you don't see me on in a loooooooog time I guess the storm won... :(
BigErn that looks sooooo much better. Nice job you did. :-* :-* :-*
Carl
Looks da-bomb :-* :-*
Quote from: blake.l on April 20, 2013, 01:35:19 PM
Nice break BigErn... Did you make it? I'd like to do something to mine... been sick as a dog, it hit me about 3 days ago. Highest temp been 103.8 lowest 102... Heck I forgot how to send a text message last night :o think I'm gonna ride the storm out, if you don't see me on in a loooooooog time I guess the storm won... :(
Hope you feel better Blake... The brake I got from PA, you can use it as a cocking assist :-* :-* It's from a Beretta CX4/Walther Dominator. It's about $40.00, very nice. I still need to check it for accuracy when I get new sights and the BKL mount.
Quote from: crossliner on April 20, 2013, 01:13:15 PM
Yes BKLs are nice and affordable..I have one like that in transit to the Phils. as well as a dual strap style..Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/pyra3_zps0c496c38.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/pyra2_zps37cf1f80.jpg)
Yup! I ended up getting one last night, the one RC recommended. One piece 3" mount for a 1" tube :-*
You made a great choice. I've had cheaper mounts ride off the back of the dovetails on spring pistols, but a BKL won't move at all. Saves a lot of aggravation after the time spent zeroing in a scope only to have the mount shift. If you don't like it, I'll buy it from you. RC
^^^^^^ +1 :-*
I think I'll listen to the pros on this one :-* Can't wait to try this out.
Alright I had a chance to try out the Trail with the new brake, scope, and mount. The brake didn't work out how I hoped :( Accuracy is actually WORSE with it than the original cocking assist! The scope worked great but even the BKL one piece mount with Loctite creeped back.
I don't know what it is with this pistol but everything so far has moved backwards >:( It shoots just ok with the original parts back on but that's as good as it gets... Every now and then it shoots about 5" inches low and sometimes it seemed like there was no pellet being shot but I know I put one in there >:( Just weird, like a phantom pellet or something ???
Conclusion so far is that this thing is a mess! I will try another brake and different pellets too to see if I can fix this freakin thing so I can use it. I might try cutting some material off the end of the original cocking assist making it shorter to see if that helps. For now I'll just keep wasting pellets, hopefully this thing will break in or maybe a miracle will happen :D
Mine likes the Gamo hunter dome pellets. Still can't hit where I'm aiming, but the dome pellets groupe the best.
This has to be the most disappointing thing I ever bought. I read several reviews and posts which I usually take with a large grain of salt. Alas, the trigger is beyond belief and the sight is so low and I can't even hit a can at 20'. I feel like I've been taken to the cleaners. Surely, they will come up with a sight fix at least. How did this get out the door ? Color me dumbfounded.
One of my friends bought a Trail NP pistol. It arrived today and I think it is broken as we cannot cock it.
Is there a button or something that needs to be pressed to cock this pistol? Neither of us could cock the thing with, or without the cocking assist.
Quote from: geo111 on April 28, 2013, 12:17:31 AM
One of my friends bought a Trail NP pistol. It arrived today and I think it is broken as we cannot cock it.
Is there a button or something that needs to be pressed to cock this pistol? Neither of us could cock the thing with, or without the cocking assist.
Rather than pushing down, give the BBL and downward slap on the end to start it. Hope this is going to get you going
He got it to open. Thank you for your help nomobux.
Quote from: nomobux on April 27, 2013, 10:45:58 PM
This has to be the most disappointing thing I ever bought. I read several reviews and posts which I usually take with a large grain of salt. Alas, the trigger is beyond belief and the sight is so low and I can't even hit a can at 20'. I feel like I've been taken to the cleaners. Surely, they will come up with a sight fix at least. How did this get out the door ? Color me dumbfounded.
Your question is the one everyone should be asking. I'm thrilled to have passed on buying one. When I read that a BKL mount moves, which I've never had happen regardless of the recoil, something isn't right. Too many design compromises?? RC
It's blowing crazy hard here and no way to try this. My brain is saying it would work ?? How about moving the rear sight forward. would that not raise the front when you take a sight picture ? I've been sitting here with a straight edge and 2 blocks of wood and my brain says yes when I slide the rear block forward. Driving me nuts.
Quote from: RC1947 on April 28, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Your question is the one everyone should be asking. I'm thrilled to have passed on buying one. When I read that a BKL mount moves, which I've never had happen regardless of the recoil, something isn't right. Too many design compromises?? RC
Yep after all the BS delays i just gave up, glad i did.
Mike
This new Hatsan looks awesome! I should have waited for this one better >:( >:( >:(
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_Model_25_SuperTact_Air_Rifle_Air_Pistol/3082 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_Model_25_SuperTact_Air_Rifle_Air_Pistol/3082)
Quote from: nomobux on April 29, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
It's blowing crazy hard here and no way to try this. My brain is saying it would work ?? How about moving the rear sight forward. would that not raise the front when you take a sight picture ? I've been sitting here with a straight edge and 2 blocks of wood and my brain says yes when I slide the rear block forward. Driving me nuts.
Might work but the sight will probably creep backwards like everything else I have tried so far >:(
Wow that is real nice Ern. Adjustable front sight that's cool and two stage adjustable trigger sweet. To bad we didn't live closer together we could split it. ;D I wan't to see a review.
Mike
I think it was BDS or RC that got me to look at this one.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Diana_RWS_LP8/1840 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Diana_RWS_LP8/1840)
Quote from: BigErn on April 29, 2013, 09:07:24 PM
This new Hatsan looks awesome! I should have waited for this one better >:( >:( >:(
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_Model_25_SuperTact_Air_Rifle_Air_Pistol/3082 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Hatsan_Model_25_SuperTact_Air_Rifle_Air_Pistol/3082)
Ya, I think it's the Supercharger model with a carbine stock? Still...
"58 lbs cocking effort" :D That's two men and a boy ain't it? ;D
Quote from: BDS on April 29, 2013, 09:20:17 PM
Ya, I think it's the Supercharger model with a carbine stock? Still... "58 lbs cocking effort" :D That's two men and a boy ain't it? ;D
Lol!!! C'mon you can handle it ;D It has a cocking assist ;D ;D ;D I really like it :-\
Quote from: Crosshairs on April 29, 2013, 09:13:29 PM
Wow that is real nice Ern. Adjustable front sight that's cool and two stage adjustable trigger sweet. To bad we didn't live closer together we could split it. ;D I wan't to see a review.
Mike
I think it was BDS or RC that got me to look at this one.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Diana_RWS_LP8/1840 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Diana_RWS_LP8/1840)
That one is cool too MIke, but I like the looks and price of the Hatsan more :-* I too want to see some reviews... Next time I go to NY I'm stopping by your house Mike :D :-*
Quote from: BigErn on April 29, 2013, 10:20:26 PM
Lol!!! C'mon you can handle it ;D It has a cocking assist ;D ;D ;D I really like it :-\
:D That's what SHE said! ;D