So I got bored the other day. I have a lot of extra airgun parts laying around so I got a little inspired. I lathed down a stock 1377 barrel and made one of my carbon arrows into (3) 9 inch airgun bolts. I haven't really haven't had time to play with it yet. But it does have my curiousity peaked.....
2cool ... :-*
Check this out joe hickey did the sams thing posted it on the ca forum he did it a little different but it worked
http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic55565.html?hilit=shooting%20arrows (http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic55565.html?hilit=shooting%20arrows)
I've been wanting to do something like that. Even found a kit for sale but the guy never has answered my eMails.
Carl
WOW !! I like that!!! :-* :-*
:D Crazy but cool Greg!
I wonder if the fletching/feathers will interrupt it's flight path if they interfere with the tube as the arrow shaft leaves the barrel? Maybe a 14" barrel with the arrow out and away from the main part of the gun?
Love it!!
found this while image searching the other day... looks amazing aswell, the AUG-style lower receiver!!
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/c7732027d9d8ac8df04ee83a5a4a4505/tumblr_mhqc5nNmHQ1rvhbxso1_500.jpg)
i've always been tempted to build an arrow/bolt firer but in the uk i think i'd be falling foul of our law so i bought a pistol x bow which are perfectly legal even though they have more potential to do harm than an air pistol
i've been modding it slowly so far i've removed the self cocking links and have made a new weaver mount in ally to replace the plastic one that moved every time you cocked it
next job is a shoulder stock
ped
Cool beans!
COOL !!
Quote from: two_zero on January 30, 2014, 09:19:26 PM
Love it!!
found this while image searching the other day... looks amazing aswell, the AUG-style lower receiver!!
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/c7732027d9d8ac8df04ee83a5a4a4505/tumblr_mhqc5nNmHQ1rvhbxso1_500.jpg)
Hoo hoo :-* Gotta love that one, some more nutty kit on this link below ;D
http://www.pinterest.com/quirky2/boy-toys/ (http://www.pinterest.com/quirky2/boy-toys/)
:o :o I fainly found one of these for sale and it cost 383.9E in US dollars thats 519.76 . A little out of my range!! WOW :o :o
Saw that TH, somebody's proud of those pistols!
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on January 31, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
:o :o I fainly found one of these for sale and it cost 383.9E in US dollars thats 519.76 . A little out of my range!! WOW :o :o
Same thing I thought when I saw that price. :(
Carl
ive shot shish ka bob skewers out of mine but can wait to see a video of how that little sucker slings rea arrows! nice work.
First couple of test are pretty cool. I think the bolts are to heavy so I'm going to modify the tips to loose some weight. I'm using all off the shelve parts for the bolts. With the stock 1377 barrell turned down and using a stock height breech the fletching don't drag or even touch the body of the gun. I'm going to modify the valve to see what changes I can also get.
I have not seen any more on the web so if I ever get one I quess I'll have to make it!!
This was the kit I saw advertised but nothing ever materialized.
Carl
Quote from: bluefork on January 31, 2014, 11:13:32 PM
First couple of test are pretty cool. I think the bolts are to heavy so I'm going to modify the tips to loose some weight. I'm using all off the shelve parts for the bolts. With the stock 1377 barrell turned down and using a stock height breech the fletching don't drag or even touch the body of the gun. I'm going to modify the valve to see what changes I can also get.
Carbon fiber shafts or alum? I guess the magic weight is about 15 gr like a CPH pellet ?
I'm using carbon fiber arrows. I'm going to see how light I can get the arrow and still be balanced for proper flight.
Ok Greg.. Keep us updated, this is another $$ maker IMO :-*
I got a little done on my arrow shooter over the weekend. I did get 13xx band spacers and triggerframes put together and dropped off at hpasports.com I figured those were more important.... :-*
This is an old thread but.....was laying in bed thinking about arrow guns. Here are some ideas for a mandrel style gun.
Could use an aluminum tube for the "barrel" Portion in front of breech turned down to less than I.d. of an aluminum shaft to avoid stiction or vacuum.. Barrel would be smooth bore. Maybe a stock tube with a 7/16" o.d. and a 3/16" I.d.
The arrow could have an inner aluminum rod fitting the bore closely that would reduce the air space in the bore and increase speed. Have not thought too much about the business end of the arrow but light weight and sharp would be goals. Perhaps a turned aluminum field point that accommodated the inner rod at the rear and a slit for a razor point in front.
Base pistol would be a 2240 with high flow/ volume valve and port. Oh yeah, this is presented free for non commercial use. ;)
Looked online at tube sizes. Probably easiet to use a piece of .435" aluminum rod for the breech portion and bore it out to fit a steel mandrel tube. An I.d. on the mandrel could be something between .177 and .22 , what ever would match a standard rod size for the inner part of the "arrow" (really more of a bolt I guess).
The goal with the arrow would be for pure speed and penetration. Thinking heart/ lung shots on racoons and maybe cyotes. 8" length maybe. Would need minimal fletching or vanes. The "arrow" could be made entirely out of carbon fiber with a machined point, perhaps scalloped on the sides to a point. Vanes could be fabbed from thin carbon sheet and glued on. Essentially a carbon fiber missle.
2 cool.
I may have to try something similar, I already like plastic cased AirGun darts (they do not damage the rifling with the plastic casing). So going with short arrows is a cool idea.
I've been tinkering around with some arrow shooters as well. I haven't done any shooting with them in a while, the carbon bolts I made are a little heavy, when finances allow there is a lighter carbon shaft I'm going to try. The lightest points I have made are using a Muzzy trocar replacement point on a modified aluminum broadhead adapter, approximately 30 grains. Some "mini-broadheads" were made with the tips of Snuffer 3-blade broadheads cut off and epoxied to the modified broadhead adapters.
The launch tubes are carbon arrow shafts, I lucked out and found the perfect fit inside the bolt shafts. The launch tubes were epoxied in drilled out sections of a Crosman barrel.
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These are tons o' fun to shoot!! I hope to get more shooting with them now that the weather is better...except for severe weather forecast for tomorrow!! I've got some short videos shooting them, I need to get more videos made when I can get some other projects done.
Hey, cool. Thanks for sharing. It is a challenge to find "nesting" tubes. And I wish I had a lathe too. I think I can use brass tube and get it done. I'm going to try and make the arrows completely from carbon fiber and mine will be small ( no pcp yet). More of a novelty really than something for hunting.
Don't want to hijack the thread but here's a little more info on my set up...
The launch tubes are Carbon Express Predator 800, .244" o.d. The bolts are Gold Tip Ultralight Entrada 400, .246" i.d.. The Entrada 400 are 7.4 grains per inch, the next shaft I get will be the Entrada 700 at 5.4 grains per inch. Hope the info helps.
looking good sterling don't think they'd be legal our side of the pond so have never made one ,thought about it a few times though
ped
Quote from: airriflenut on March 25, 2015, 04:53:15 AM
Don't want to hijack the thread but here's a little more info on my set up...
Hey, no worries. I've been looking at tubes from this outfit for the arrows; https://goodwinds.com/carbon/wrapped/sky-shark-p-series-tubes.html (https://goodwinds.com/carbon/wrapped/sky-shark-p-series-tubes.html) They are ultra light weight for kite building. They have carbon rod that fits the .244 I.d. and I can turn that into a point and glue it in.
I've a 10" bbl. that I can cut down and bore out to fit a brass mandrel. Costs almost nothing for a .25" brass tube with an I.d. of 0.19" it will need to be turned down a wee bit to fit the shafts. http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=1539&step=4&showunits=inches&id=84&top_cat=0 (http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=1539&step=4&showunits=inches&id=84&top_cat=0)
So I'll start with a 6" arrow and see what kind of speed I can get.
I am thinking about making an Carbon fiber reinforced PLA launch tube, and wood arrows to see how it works out. I think that it could be great.
If I can get enough speed out of my scheme I will add razor blade inserts to the point and have a racoon gitter maybe.
Quote from: beerhippy on March 25, 2015, 02:01:21 PM
Hey, no worries. I've been looking at tubes from this outfit for the arrows; https://goodwinds.com/carbon/wrapped/sky-shark-p-series-tubes.html (https://goodwinds.com/carbon/wrapped/sky-shark-p-series-tubes.html) They are ultra light weight for kite building. They have carbon rod that fits the .244 I.d. and I can turn that into a point and glue it in.
I've a 10" bbl. that I can cut down and bore out to fit a brass mandrel. Costs almost nothing for a .25" brass tube with an I.d. of 0.19" it will need to be turned down a wee bit to fit the shafts. http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=1539&step=4&showunits=inches&id=84&top_cat=0 (http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=1539&step=4&showunits=inches&id=84&top_cat=0)
So I'll start with a 6" arrow and see what kind of speed I can get.
OnlineMetals is awesome, shipping is high but they have a LOT of metal!! I wouldn't go with brass tube, my first launch tube were 316 stainless steel and they bent easily. I'll have to see if I still have my thru-the-scope video, I edited it to slow motion and you can clearly see the new carbon launch tube whipping in the shot.
Also, I wouldn't expect major velocities from the get-go. There is a fine balance between pressure and valve volume, I'm still chasing the velocity with my rig.
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This is the mini-broadhead I made from the Snuffer 125 grain glue-on tip...wicked sharp and spun dead straight chucked in the lathe!