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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Crosman 2300T Trigger Question

« Last post by flairgunner77 on September 21, 2023, 06:14:34 PM »

With the help of  CraigH (thank you) I have solved my 2300S trigger questions. Now I’d like to improve the trigger on my 2300T.  It has a “standard” Crosman setup but the adjustable sear spring mod was installed at the custom shop some years ago.  It appears I have three choices.

1. Buy the 1701p trigger group from Crosman if they have it in stock.  If not…

2. Buy the Alliance Hobby improved trigger grip and hammer for a hidden screw breech.  The most expensive option.

3. Buy the $30 adjustable sear from Airguns of Arizona (AOA) and install.

My question is whether any forum members have any experience with the AOA sear.  It looks like the cheapest option but if does not improve the trigger, it might not be worth it.

Comments or recommendations anyone?

Thanks - Dave B

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Vigilante

« Last post by KevinP on September 18, 2023, 10:50:10 AM »

If the pellets are to long, or are not flush with the loader, they will rub and slow down(drag)the loader causing misalignment and misfires.

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Vigilante

« Last post by CraigH on September 17, 2023, 04:58:26 PM »

 

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Crosman 1701 Trigger Questions

« Last post by CraigH on September 17, 2023, 04:57:17 PM »

The acetal pin is used to maintain adjustment of the striker.

Some have used a piece of lawn string trimmer of the correct diameter if such is in hand.

Look through Crosman EVP's and consider any future parts needs, if possible, to make a part order efficient with respect to shipping expense.

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Vigilante

« Last post by Gramps on September 17, 2023, 04:03:10 AM »

I do not have a Vigilante, but from your well described issue, seems like a problem with a "pawl" or "hand" not holding the magazine properly while it is advanced.     

I think the cylinder is actually revolving. Yesterday I shoot 30 rounds through it and everyone of them fired, using 3 different pellets. I have come to the conclusion that it might have been the pellets, can't try out my theory without buying more of the Premier Pointer which were the ones I had issues with.

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Crosman 1701 Trigger Questions

« Last post by flairgunner77 on September 17, 2023, 02:14:59 AM »

Craig - many thanks for the reply.  I’ll leave the grip as delivered and am thankful I found a blog that shows me how to hook up the trigger spring. I had opened the grip up and, when I removed the plate, the pieces went flying.  Luckily I had the grip covered so no pieces were lost and the blog shows me exactly how to position the trigger spring. I’m a loser with internal springs.

The hammer I have looks exactly like the one in the diagram you sent and the sides are slabbed.   The bad news is that I have misplaced the acetal pin that fits in the front of the hammer so will have to contact Crosman for the part. I assume the acetal pin is there to keep the hammer from rolling about so I’ll order one Monday as I need other parts also.

Thanks again for the info.  It allows me to press forward much smarter than I was.  Dave B.

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Crosman 1701 Trigger Questions

« Last post by CraigH on September 16, 2023, 06:55:30 PM »

1.  I would use as delivered first - the workings can be accessed after assembly.

2.  The 2220-103 grip assembly should be used with a non-wasp-waisted hammer.    The M-Rod, 1701, and 1720 use a hammer with separate striker.    See this link for parts if you do not have the correct hammer type (parts in image 20, 21, 22).   Also not this hammer is slabbed to reduce air resistance.

https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201592430/BP2220-EVP___PL.pdf

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Crosman 1701 Trigger Questions

« Last post by flairgunner77 on September 15, 2023, 10:31:44 PM »

I recently discovered (don’t ask) a complete 1701 grip frame in my parts bin and want to install it on my 2300S that’s been in my closet for years, unused.  Before I go further, I have some questions for the experts on this forum.

1. Should I polish and lubricate any trigger or sear pieces before I close things up and mount the grips?

2. There is a hammer in my parts bin that I think came with the grip frame. Does the new grip frame and trigger require
the new hammer and will it play with the 2300S power adjuster?

P.S.  I’ll move the 2300S grip frame to a 2300T that’s in the closet keeping the 2300S company.  Somewhere in all of this,  there may be almost enough parts for another pistol.

Any suggestions are welcomed.  Thanks

Dave Be

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Vigilante

« Last post by CraigH on September 15, 2023, 09:22:07 PM »

I do not have a Vigilante, but from your well described issue, seems like a problem with a "pawl" or "hand" not holding the magazine properly while it is advanced.     

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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Vigilante

« Last post by Gramps on September 15, 2023, 06:49:57 PM »

I have 3 .177 cal magazines for my Vigilante all them exhibit the same issue. When loading with 10 rounds and shooting it skips pellets randomly sometimes they are next to one another and other times it just random miss one shoot couple miss one. Normally if you rotate the missed pellet back it will shoot the 2nd time sometimes not. If it was happening only on one mag I would say that was the issue but it all of them. It also doesn't seem to matter what pellets I use they all seem to do it. Is this a common issue with the Vigilante?