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Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Finaly caved and "Went for...
Last post by crossliner - April 03, 2024, 06:51:25 PMQuote from: Flex on April 03, 2024, 04:15:52 PMA few comments / questions.
As I mentioned in an earlier post to this thread, I too, am not seeing the degree of "gapage" that uncletom is describing. The photos that I posted of my airguns show a near perfect fit.
It was mentioned that a breech for a 17xx series pellet gun was mounted on a 13xx valve tube AND the "gapage" was present. Are the breeches for the 17xx models significantly different than those for the 22xx & 13xx series models? Answering my own question, that appears to be the case! It seems then, that uncletom has somehow received (erroneously) the wrong breech. Is this a possibility? It certainly would explain his situation.
Flex sir, 17xx breeches are totally different and cannot be mounted on either tubes; it has 4 anchor points, the front ones "impale" the valve through the tube for more security, you know, being a PCP.
Sorry if I wasn't too clear, but I just chose to mention it as reference to tube and breech symbiosis. It is a wide and tall breech specifically made to mate perfectly with the 17xx tube diameter---also 7/8" like the 22xx's.
Anyway, I was just curious why UT was too concerned about the so called discrepancy, hence the query if he owns a 13xx.
#12
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Finaly caved and "Went for...
Last post by Flex - April 03, 2024, 04:15:52 PMQuote from: crossliner on April 03, 2024, 01:24:29 AMDo you own a 1377?A few comments / questions.
I checked mine, as I have several in OEM and aftermarket in stainless (Don Cothran), especially the 22xx ones.
I also own OEM and Don Cothran breeches, and I just could not see the point of your complaint about the "gapage" 'cuz there is none that I could see.
The breeches, OEM and Don's, don't look off atop my 13xx tube nor on the 22xx ones, and no, I don't have a plastic breech for reference; I probably gave them away.
Anyway, it actually looks, the steel breech being of smaller diameter than both tube sizes, better on the 13xx's and more proportioned, IMHO.
On the other hand, the 17xx breech, i.e., PROD and 1701P/1720T, were definitely and perfectly made for the 22xx/17xx tubes (they're identical in diameter).
Out of curiosity, I tried it on a 13xx tube, and I certainly saw the "gapage", lol!
As I mentioned in an earlier post to this thread, I too, am not seeing the degree of "gapage" that uncletom is describing. The photos that I posted of my airguns show a near perfect fit.
It was mentioned that a breech for a 17xx series pellet gun was mounted on a 13xx valve tube AND the "gapage" was present. Are the breeches for the 17xx models significantly different than those for the 22xx & 13xx series models? Answering my own question, that appears to be the case! It seems then, that uncletom has somehow received (erroneously) the wrong breech. Is this a possibility? It certainly would explain his situation.
#13
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Finaly caved and "Went for...
Last post by crossliner - April 03, 2024, 01:24:29 AMQuote from: uncletom on April 02, 2024, 10:19:34 AMSilence this far.
I'm still hoping.
Do you own a 1377?
I checked mine, as I have several in OEM and aftermarket in stainless (Don Cothran), especially the 22xx ones.
I also own OEM and Don Cothran breeches, and I just could not see the point of your complaint about the "gapage" 'cuz there is none that I could see.
The breeches, OEM and Don's, don't look off atop my 13xx tube nor on the 22xx ones, and no, I don't have a plastic breech for reference; I probably gave them away.
Anyway, it actually looks, the steel breech being of smaller diameter than both tube sizes, better on the 13xx's and more proportioned, IMHO.
On the other hand, the 17xx breech, i.e., PROD and 1701P/1720T, were definitely and perfectly made for the 22xx/17xx tubes (they're identical in diameter).
Out of curiosity, I tried it on a 13xx tube, and I certainly saw the "gapage", lol!
#14
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Finaly caved and "Went for...
Last post by Flex - April 02, 2024, 09:16:50 PMTBCH, I believe that your chances of getting Crosman to introduce a steel breech that better fits the 13xx series pumpers is remote but there is no harm in pursuing the issue. Have you considered having the ill-fitting breech milled for a better fit? Having some steel removed from the middle of the radiused portion of the breech might allow the gap at the edges to appear less obvious but, of course, it won't ever be perfect. I do realize that milling a breech made for a 13xx to better fit a 22xx CO2 model would have better results.
Am I correct in your belief that, in the past, either there were breeches made specifically for the 13xx series airguns? Or that the valve tubes on older 13xx airguns had a larger diameter than the current 13xx series airguns?
Am I correct in your belief that, in the past, either there were breeches made specifically for the 13xx series airguns? Or that the valve tubes on older 13xx airguns had a larger diameter than the current 13xx series airguns?
#15
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: Finaly caved and "Went for...
Last post by uncletom - April 02, 2024, 10:19:34 AMSilence this far.
I'm still hoping.
I'm still hoping.
#16
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: model 1600 c02 screen
Last post by marflow - April 02, 2024, 01:19:41 AMhad to look and the SSP250 that was produced till 1995 had a screen in it and we are just talking pistols
so the question was a good one but lets look at in a different way i believe they should be put back as they were if you can and this would be any gun and the key is IF YOU CAN
well many of have guns that we shoot but have never been into and even know more then most we all would need advise or opinion from time to time
and air guns vs power burns hell the PB's are easy to work on
Set a PB aside for 100 years protected and clean up and shoot, do that with an airgun and it will not work
good luck on your rebuild and take care
mike
so the question was a good one but lets look at in a different way i believe they should be put back as they were if you can and this would be any gun and the key is IF YOU CAN
well many of have guns that we shoot but have never been into and even know more then most we all would need advise or opinion from time to time
and air guns vs power burns hell the PB's are easy to work on
Set a PB aside for 100 years protected and clean up and shoot, do that with an airgun and it will not work
good luck on your rebuild and take care
mike
#17
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: model 1600 c02 screen
Last post by vintage - March 31, 2024, 02:12:22 PMIn it stays. Thanks for the advice. 
By the way I'm not advanced as many on here but I've had bb/pellet guns around over my lifetime along with my other firearms. Sights like this are really helpful avoiding or getting out of trouble. LOL.
By the way I'm not advanced as many on here but I've had bb/pellet guns around over my lifetime along with my other firearms. Sights like this are really helpful avoiding or getting out of trouble. LOL. #18
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: model 1600 c02 screen
Last post by CraigH - March 31, 2024, 01:57:42 PMThe old Crosman's had screens, but none of the new guns (22xx guns) have them.
If the screen is in good condition, I would clean it up and use it.
If the screen is in good condition, I would clean it up and use it.
#19
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / Re: model 1600 c02 screen
Last post by marflow - March 31, 2024, 04:33:51 AMjust about every CO2 gun has a screen in it and i see no reason why you would delete it
does it do much for the careful shooter maybe not but Crosman could not be sure everyone would be
no harm leave it in
does it do much for the careful shooter maybe not but Crosman could not be sure everyone would be
no harm leave it in
#20
Crosman air pistol - General discussion / model 1600 c02 screen
Last post by vintage - March 31, 2024, 01:53:03 AMHello all. New guy here. I'm 77 from Fla and like the older ones. I'm in the process of reseal of a 1600. Just waiting for the kit. My question is some say you do not need the screen behind the piercer. That the screen should be cut out but keep the outer ring to keep the spacing the same. Any thoughts appreciated.