any of you milling machine owners or worker have time to make a brass p-rod/1701p trigger
imo the black trigger on my 2289g with p-rod grip is throwing it off
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/PICT0059-1-1.jpg)
it could really use a brass trigger and left hand safety ;)
come on members i need an opinion or 2
imo the black trigger is throwing the gun off here it is when it was a 1377 with a mellon brass wide trigger
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/PA020465-1.jpg)
It looks good to me.... :-*
You could always have your trigger plated if it bugged you that much? ???
Quote from: 0351_Vet on March 02, 2012, 06:03:18 PM
It looks good to me.... :-*
You could always have your trigger plated if it bugged you that much? ???
that was current thought
im going to check on that
would perfer an actual brass trigger though since the rest of my parts are genuine brass like thic ldc
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/PICT0068-2-1-1.jpg)
crosshairs jumbo bolt handle,tube and breech end cap
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/PA020461-1.jpg)
WORKINMAN!!!
where are you???
The Brass trigger looks better to me. :)
I want a milling machine really bad just dont have the room in my shop.
Mike
YGPM Mr. Crosshair :)
Grant Stace is making a beautiful replacement brass trigger for the P-Rod/1701P grip frame for $42 delivered. His triggers are 8mm wide. I would post a photo but his forum is crrently down.
Quote from: breakfastchef on March 04, 2012, 03:00:39 PM
Grant Stace is making a beautiful replacement brass trigger for the P-Rod/1701P grip frame for $42 delivered. His triggers are 8mm wide. I would post a photo but his forum is crrently down.
once you can post a pic please do so
thats 2x the price i paid for the p-rod gripframe but it doesnt matter i want a brass trigger
1377x where did you go for the brass ldc
Quote from: eric on March 04, 2012, 07:59:33 PM
1377x where did you go for the brass ldc
i got the 3/4"brass tube from the hardware store and had someone else made the internals and end caps
nice 8)
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 04, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
I want a milling machine really bad just dont have the room in my shop.
Mike
i read somewhere about a milling attachment for lathes.great to use on small projects
Quote from: 1377x on March 04, 2012, 09:59:50 PM
i read somewhere about a milling attachment for lathes.great to use on small projects
Here's what it looks like for the mini-lathe.
http://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=3766&category= (http://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=3766&category=)
Glen
I have a lathe and a mill, make me a drawing and I can whoop it up.
Jeff
Quote from: J57ltr on March 05, 2012, 10:12:31 PM
I have a lathe and a mill, make me a drawing and I can whoop it up.
Jeff
ill see what i can come up with
thanks!
Do you have AutoCad?
Jeff
Quote from: J57ltr on March 05, 2012, 10:12:31 PM
I have a lathe and a mill, make me a drawing and I can whoop it up.
Jeff
I like have a couple myself. Price?
Gotta see what I'm making first.
Jeff
Here is an outline I traced with a 0.5mm mechanical pencil.
Do the pivot hole and the rounded part to the left share the s
E dims of other 13xx,22xx series?
If the trigger is the same as one I have I can copy it with your changes in width. Do you have the material? If not I can get 360 free machining brass. Unless you need a different alloy.
that trigger is not the same as the one one i need made
right now i dont have access to my parts so i am hoping i can get some help from some other members here
i just saw one of the grip frame disassembled hrere on the forum i just have to find it
Plastic trigger on the left is from a phase II 1377. Metal trigger on right is from current 1377.
Pivit hole is the same. They're basicly the same shape. Except that the metal trigger has an extended section of upper trigger face and the sear engagement.
The plastic sear engagement as what appears to be a pocket hole for a spring.
Quote from: 1377x on March 06, 2012, 04:33:32 AM
that trigger is not the same as the one one i need made
right now i dont have access to my parts so i am hoping i can get some help from some other members here
i just saw one of the grip frame disassembled hrere on the forum i just have to find it
This your trigger group?
http://www.tko22.com/MPEVP.pdf (http://www.tko22.com/MPEVP.pdf)
Quote from: cmj21973 on March 06, 2012, 04:48:34 AM
This your trigger group?
http://www.tko22.com/MPEVP.pdf (http://www.tko22.com/MPEVP.pdf)
1701p/marauder pistol no evp yet but there are some pics of one open and an evp floating around here.i have to search the forum and see what i dig up
Quote from: J57ltr on March 06, 2012, 04:24:24 AM
If the trigger is the same as one I have I can copy it with your changes in width. Do you have the material? If not I can get 360 free machining brass. Unless you need a different alloy.
I don't have any material, so what ever brass you have or recommend.
If the trigger you have is the plastic phase II trigger, that has a wider and nicer trigger face, that would be acceptable.
Quote from: 1377x on March 06, 2012, 04:59:12 AM
1701p/marauder pistol no evp yet but there are some pics of one open and an evp floating around here.i have to search the forum and see what i dig up
Looks the same.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php?topic=4561.msg45155#msg45155 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php?topic=4561.msg45155#msg45155)
DUH!!!
you posted the evp :-[
Quote from: cmj21973 on March 06, 2012, 05:08:27 AM
Looks the same.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php?topic=4561.msg45155#msg45155 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php?topic=4561.msg45155#msg45155)
seems like the main difference of the trigger is the 2-stage adjusting screws on the p-rod trigger the blade doesnt matter much
(http://www.kalman.org/chris/Images/P1020060.JPG)
While it's not a difficult part to make, without the part to copy or drawings (specs to the .001") it's not something to freehand.
I have a 2300T, new 1377, old 1377 and a 2240 so if any of those will work as a template then let me know.
I don't use much brass, mostly stainless and aluminum. So I would have to order it. Check McMaster-Carr they carry it, and give you a idea on price. Pick a width that you want for the shoe area.
Jeff
Quote from: J57ltr on March 08, 2012, 02:35:25 AM
While it's not a difficult part to make, without the part to copy or drawings (specs to the .001") it's not something to freehand.
I have a 2300T, new 1377, old 1377 and a 2240 so if any of those will work as a template then let me know.
I don't use much brass, mostly stainless and aluminum. So I would have to order it. Check McMaster-Carr they carry it, and give you a idea on price. Pick a width that you want for the shoe area.
Jeff
i have a local hardware store that beats everybody's prices hands down.hopefully they have what need
the trigger i can get here also no need to get it from crosman ;).just found out TOW is up the road also,i see a .25 conversion in the works :D
the problem is i am in the hospital and wont be out for up to 3 more weeks.hopefully 10 days - 2 weeks fingers crossed
i am going to speak to my parts source tomorrow, he goes to the same hardware store. i'll see if he can pick up the brass and give me a trigger to send out. i do want the trigger blade(shoe) to be a little wider
pm to follow
If you can get a few orders I can get some easily. Metal Supermarket closed in Houston, but we have a new source but have a few more days of things I can't get away from for a few days. If I can come up with something to order, I'll add it and have one of the guys pick it up. 360 brass is the way to go if you run across some.
Quote from: J57ltr on March 08, 2012, 02:35:25 AM
While it's not a difficult part to make, without the part to copy or drawings (specs to the .001") it's not something to freehand.
I have a 2300T, new 1377, old 1377 and a 2240 so if any of those will work as a template then let me know.
I don't use much brass, mostly stainless and aluminum. So I would have to order it. Check McMaster-Carr they carry it, and give you a idea on price. Pick a width that you want for the shoe area.
Jeff
pm sent
None received. Email me @ jeffnalicia@sbcglobal.com
Quote from: J57ltr on March 10, 2012, 05:29:58 AM
None received. Email me @ jeffnalicia@sbcglobal.com
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Oops, my bad it's . net
Quote from: J57ltr on March 11, 2012, 01:41:31 AM
Oops, my bad it's . net
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so who did i send the email to then
Who knows. May have been an ooold address
Quote from: J57ltr on March 11, 2012, 01:50:34 AM
Who knows. May have been an ooold address
the funny thing is it didnt bounce back so it is used
It's been a while and I have had other things on my mind, namely a 1911 I got from a guy for free and getting it operational again.
But anyway did you ever get this project going? I vaguely remember getting a drawing but I'm not sure what ever happened to it.
Jeff
Quote from: J57ltr on November 02, 2012, 04:39:28 PM
It's been a while and I have had other things on my mind, namely a 1911 I got from a guy for free and getting it operational again.
But anyway did you ever get this project going? I vaguely remember getting a drawing but I'm not sure what ever happened to it.
Jeff
sort of
i have to send the trigger off to member here thats going to made a drawing of the actual trigger.jmj i'll get that trigger to you in a few days
then hopefully i can get someone to make the trigger
Well if you can get me the drawing or the part I can still make it. Were going to be moving our mill and lathe probably next week, but it'll be back in operation in a day or so after that. I don't have any jobs (other than my own projects) that are in need of the mill so I should be able to work on it. As far as material I have. We don't have a local source for small amounts of brass unless I order from Mcmaster.
Stainless steel
Steel
Aluminum
Delrin (natural)
Jeff
Why not straighten that curve in the trigger while you're at it. Make a few. So many people have prod frames around here, they'll sell.
Good call on changing that trigger profile Fronzdan, it's an ancient design and a terrible one to boot! :D
That's easily done.
I ordered it the other night, but unfortunately trying to make a trigger with it would be a PIA. The best way to make a trigger would be a cnc mill or a wire edm or a combination of both. At least from my viewpoint.
It is on sale right now ($180.) or you could make your own using the existing compound along with an angle plate and vise for about 50 bucks.
Are you using a mill or a drill press?
Quote from: Fronzdan on November 02, 2012, 10:29:25 PM
Why not straighten that curve in the trigger while you're at it. Make a few. So many people have prod frames around here, they'll sell.
there are two different styles in the works
a wide straight blade and a slightly curved wide blade trigger like the dc roller trigger blades
:-*
If you make em they will come.