I have been considering chronographs for a while, and none are completely what I want. I was looking with great interest at the post by airmec within the "Single stroke 1377" topic on January 19, 2016 which has the picture of a spinning paper disk mechanical chronograph. Thanks for that picture, airmec, which gave me something to think about during my many wake ups overnight and try to figure out the math in my head. :)
Returning the the electronics, Here is what I know or believe to be true. And any of them will work in varying ways.
Shooting Chrony - Have to add the Ballistic Printer or get the Gamma Chrony which includes the printer, both pricey; the Ballistic Software package seems more attuned to firearms cartridges and is pricey and does not include any reference to newer versions of Windows. But the chronographs have been around for quite a while. And there is always pencil and paper.
Caldwell - only attaches to an iPhone or iPad, not a PC, to run a software app.
Competition Electronics - somewhat concerned regarding the "+/- 1% accuracy" which is not in line with the first two. Best appearing software package for air gun use and a good price, but is said not to work on Windows 10.
Since the CE software seems nice, I downloaded it and it seems to run on my Windows 10 laptop, at least to the point of having the USB dongle and trying to install its driver which is on the install CD. So I will call CE again this week to see if this is where things fail, unless someone has successfully done this.
TIA for any replies. I looked for another board to place this, but this seemed the best, let me know if it should be moved.
Most all of the chronographs these days are quite accurate, at least for what we are measuring. No matter which one you get, everything you measure from here on out will be relative to the one you have. Most of the time we use them is to measure the difference in FPS/FPE after we have made a change.
So pick the one you want and use it and be happy with it.
Carl
This looks like the new one that Paul Cappelo, on PA is using now.
http://www.amazon.com/Competition-Electronics-ProChrono-Digital-Chronograph/dp/B0028MTBJ4 (http://www.amazon.com/Competition-Electronics-ProChrono-Digital-Chronograph/dp/B0028MTBJ4)
That is interesting. If it turns out the CE cannot work with Windows 10, I might looks for a VERY cheap used Windows 7 machine to use the CE software.
This is the one that I have.
http://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Chrony-7000129-Master-Chronograph/dp/B001TKFXMA/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1457898871&sr=1-2&keywords=shooting+chrony (http://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Chrony-7000129-Master-Chronograph/dp/B001TKFXMA/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1457898871&sr=1-2&keywords=shooting+chrony)
Craig, the Caldwell also works on an Android phone, tablet, etc. You can send the shot string by email or text to other devices. I send mine to my email so I can store them on the computer and print them if needed. HTH.
I use the Pro Chronograph Digital and the Digital link. The digital link connects via blue tooth to your phone / tablet. Runs on either Apple or Android. It will call out the fps if the voice option is used and displays each shot on the the screen of connected blue tooth device. I haven't had any problems and the Digital link app. Can send the shot strings and summary via email.
Glen
Thanks Gary and Glen,
I should have said I don't have "iphon, ipad, or other smart phone". I'm only going to use the chronograph inside near the laptop. I may have to consider a tablet, rather than another laptop.
I have a f-1 Chrony with a chrono cable. It attaches to my laptop records everything there. Shot string and some other stuff
Hi Craig, thanks for the kind words! There are a lot of options when you're shopping for a chronograph, and there are a lot of good suggestions in this thread. I guess it all boils down to identifying your real needs, within the limits of your budget. Personally, when I'll have the money, I'll go with the Shooting Chrony, probably the F1, I don't need more. Just my 0.02$
P.S.: If you like to read (and tinker), have a look at this: http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic54851.html (http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic54851.html)
This cable works with shooting chrony chronographs
http://www.chronoconnect.com/ (http://www.chronoconnect.com/)
You will like it saves on writing down strings does averages high low spread,basically does the math and writing for you
1377x,
Thanks! Looks like an excellent program.
A friend just gave me a Caldwell crony. I don't know when he bought it, but he never even opened the package.
Well, it doesn't work. It just gives the -[ ]- display, which doesn't change when I shoot through it. I've tried indoors with LED lighting, and outdoors on a sunny day, in the sun, and in the shade, on the mps and fps settings, and there's never a reading. One time I got the Err 2 display and one time I got the Err 3 display, but usually it's just the -[ ]- and never any numbers. I thought maybe the .22 pellets were too small for it, so I tried throwing small chunks of concrete through it. Still nothing. The manual doesn't give any hints. Do any of you have any ideas? I do not use a smartphone, and all I want is the numerical display on the unit. I don't need any connectivity or min/max or standard deviation or anything else, just the speed of the most recent shot.
I use a Combro CB-625 Mk4, with a cable to connect it to my laptop.
+/- 1% accuracy compared to an F-1 shooting chrony.
Attaches to the barrel, no additional lighting required... ever
JMJ
Quote from: DHunter on January 12, 2021, 09:30:17 PM
A friend just gave me a Caldwell crony. I don't know when he bought it, but he never even opened the package.
Well, it doesn't work. It just gives the -[ ]- display, which doesn't change when I shoot through it. I've tried indoors with LED lighting, and outdoors on a sunny day, in the sun, and in the shade, on the mps and fps settings, and there's never a reading. One time I got the Err 2 display and one time I got the Err 3 display, but usually it's just the -[ ]- and never any numbers. I thought maybe the .22 pellets were too small for it, so I tried throwing small chunks of concrete through it. Still nothing. The manual doesn't give any hints. Do any of you have any ideas? I do not use a smartphone, and all I want is the numerical display on the unit. I don't need any connectivity or min/max or standard deviation or anything else, just the speed of the most recent shot.
Did it come with a manual, have you read it? Are you shooting thru the correct end? There is a minimum sped a chrony will record. You cant throw concrete chunks fast enough
Quote from: mr007s on January 13, 2021, 02:58:21 PM
Did it come with a manual, have you read it? Are you shooting thru the correct end? There is a minimum sped a chrony will record. You cant throw concrete chunks fast enough
Yes, the manual is pretty minimal; and as I said above, it doesn't give any hints. I always read the manuals for anything I get, and I keep them, never lose them. It specifies that the speed range is 1 to 9999 feet per second. You shoot into the end that has the LCD to show you the speed. I've emailed the manufacturer on their website, so we'll see what they come back with.
Hello all, I know it's been a while. That said I didn't see specific mention of using the F1 and a simple USB cable available from a couple of sources which allows the use of both commercial and open source free software to capture shot string data in basic csv and other formats. I have been using this setup for several years with no complaints. I will add that I use one of Brutz's spreadsheets modified to FPS rather than MPS to record data, calculate averages and built usable graphs.
Just something that might be of help.
Glad to be back for at least some interaction as I have been so berried I have not had time to participate, which I apologize for.
Casey
Quote from: DHunter on January 12, 2021, 09:30:17 PM
A friend just gave me a Caldwell crony. I don't know when he bought it, but he never even opened the package.
Well, it doesn't work. It just gives the -[ ]- display, which doesn't change when I shoot through it. I've tried indoors with LED lighting, and outdoors on a sunny day, in the sun, and in the shade, on the mps and fps settings, and there's never a reading. One time I got the Err 2 display and one time I got the Err 3 display, but usually it's just the -[ ]- and never any numbers. I thought maybe the .22 pellets were too small for it, so I tried throwing small chunks of concrete through it. Still nothing. The manual doesn't give any hints. Do any of you have any ideas? I do not use a smartphone, and all I want is the numerical display on the unit. I don't need any connectivity or min/max or standard deviation or anything else, just the speed of the most recent shot.
I emailed Caldwell three times and never got a response, so I called them and talked to a man there who asked me a few questions and then he said it sounds like they better send me another one. I'm not the original owner, but I explained that the original owner never even opened the package. Assuming the new one works, I'll be very happy with Caldwell! That's way better than the run-around I've gotten from eBay seller happykisssoul about a defective PCP pump.
Has anybody used an Acetech AC6000?
Even the cheap ones can be good for your own use to compare tunes. If they're off a little bit no biggie as long as they're consistent.