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Title: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: blake.l on January 19, 2013, 08:58:21 AM
Does anyone know if Crosman sells the 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel out right without having a custom build? I'm still waiting on my CCS order to be shipped buy I want another barrel for an up coming build... If they don't where's the best place to get one??
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: brz-ryder † on January 19, 2013, 10:05:12 AM
don`t know if they sell them but call 800-724-7486 and ask to order parts when you get sales lady ask for part no. 2300-002 all they can do is tell you that they can`t sell one to you tell them you have the pistol hope this helps
ps all monday after 8 am est


Jim
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: blake.l on January 19, 2013, 10:09:53 AM
Quote from: brz-ryder on January 19, 2013, 10:05:12 AM
don`t know if they sell them but call 800-724-7486 and ask to order parts when you get sales lady ask for part no. 2300-002 all they can do is tell you that they can`t sell one to you tell them you have the pistol hope this helps


Jim

Thanks part # and phone # Jim.... I'll have to give them a call and see what they have to say....
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: brz-ryder † on January 19, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
Good luck hope you get your barrel  :-*
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: 1377x on January 20, 2013, 04:06:23 AM
yes they will sell them.some members here have bought them from crosman in the parts department
i read here on the forum that the 2300s and the other 2300 thats not a custom shop gun have LW barrels on them
the 2300t has a different part number 2300-001
the 2300s barrel part number is 2300-002
if you want the short steel breech its there in the pic too
the long breech part number is there too but it might be the new breech screw location breech the one with the 4-48 breech screw under the bolt instead of in front of like on the 1377's
according to the evp the 2300s barrel is a match barrel
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: brz-ryder † on January 20, 2013, 05:46:53 AM
the s model has the Lothar barrel the t model doesn`t say what kind

Jim
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: 1377x on January 20, 2013, 05:54:12 AM
Quote from: brz-ryder on January 20, 2013, 05:46:53 AM
the s model has the Lothar barrel the t model doesn`t say what kind

Jim
with the different part number it might not be match or it could be
never know with crosman
so its best to order the 2300s imo then you know you are getting the match barrel
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: bgmcgee on January 20, 2013, 03:46:48 PM
Looks to me that the 2300t is the standard crosman barrel.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: chongman on January 20, 2013, 04:08:15 PM
I have a 2300T, standard Crosman barrel.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: Fronzdan on January 20, 2013, 07:50:57 PM
You want the 2300s barrel.  I've ordered this before.  They call it a match barrel and its an LW.  Use the part number that ED posted above.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: 1377x on January 20, 2013, 10:10:06 PM
get the bolt for the 2300 too its long nose so it places the pellet further into the chamber hopefully past the transfer port
part number 2300-123(bolt assembly) its everything you need for the bolt handle and o-ring
its an improvement over the stock bolt for sure
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: bgmcgee on January 21, 2013, 02:24:57 AM
Just put a 12"lothar barrel on my 1377. Not sure what it was supposed to fit but I had to massage the lead end to get the bolt to fit right. Got to say though it is way better than my abilities.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: quickster47 † on January 21, 2013, 03:47:30 AM
Was the 12" Lothar barrel made for a Crosman or was it a custom job done by someone for you?  Reason I am asking is I don't remember Crosman selling a gun with a 12" Lothar barrel.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: 1377x on January 21, 2013, 04:48:30 AM
maybe a 1701 barrel ???
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: bgmcgee on January 21, 2013, 12:17:02 PM
Definitely not made for the 1377. I had to open up the lead end to get the bolt in the right spot. Amazing what you can do with a dremel.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: quickster47 † on January 21, 2013, 01:59:54 PM
Quote from: 1377x on January 21, 2013, 04:48:30 AM
maybe a 1701 barrel ???

Not at a length of 12".

Carl
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: 1377x on January 21, 2013, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: bgmcgee on January 21, 2013, 12:17:02 PM
Definitely not made for the 1377. I had to open up the lead end to get the bolt in the right spot. Amazing what you can do with a dremel.
sounds like it wasnt made for any crosman 13xx or 2xxx
small leade but it had a transfer port in the same place as the 13xx/2xxx
and the mystery continues
would be nice to know if it is a barrel commonly made,readily available and all it takes is a little work to make use of it in a 13xx or 2xxx
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: williesurvive on January 22, 2013, 04:29:26 AM
The 1720T has the 12in. LW match grade, choked barrel.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: AZAG on January 22, 2013, 05:29:25 AM
Quote from: bgmcgee on January 21, 2013, 02:24:57 AM
Just put a 12"lothar barrel on my 1377. Not sure what it was supposed to fit but I had to massage the lead end to get the bolt to fit right. Got to say though it is way better than my abilities.

Where did you get the barrel?
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: 1377x on January 22, 2013, 08:25:57 AM
Quote from: williesurvive on January 22, 2013, 04:29:26 AM
The 1720T has the 12in. LW match grade, choked barrel.
that could explain the transfer port and narrow leade
does anyone know if the 1720t uses the o-ring in the barrel to seal the bolt? like a marauder does ???
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: bgmcgee on January 22, 2013, 01:07:36 PM
I would be willing to bet it's a 1720 barrel. Not sure how the guy is getting them but he does live in new york. Maybe he has a crosman connection as he said if I need crosman parts to let him know.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: 1377x on January 22, 2013, 01:12:28 PM
as long as you have a part number crosman will sell you the part
i was getting 1701p trigger groups before the evp came out
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: williesurvive on January 22, 2013, 03:47:31 PM
Quote from: 1377x on January 22, 2013, 08:25:57 AM
that could explain the transfer port and narrow leade
does anyone know if the 1720t uses the o-ring in the barrel to seal the bolt? like a marauder does ???
The o-ring is on the bolt, but I've never torn the breech apart. Been waiting for crosman to come out with the exploded view.
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: 1377x on January 23, 2013, 05:17:08 PM
Quote from: williesurvive on January 22, 2013, 03:47:31 PM
The o-ring is on the bolt, but I've never torn the breech apart. Been waiting for crosman to come out with the exploded view.
hmmm!
on the marauder/pistol its in the barrel probably because of the magazine something the 1701 and 1720 dont have
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: quickster47 † on January 23, 2013, 06:24:27 PM
Not quite sure about what the OP has bit I would sure like to hear how he acquired it and what exactly it is he has, other than it's a 12" LW barrel.

The 2300s LW barrel from Crosman is $54.25 and in stock.

Carl
Title: Re: 10.1" Lothar Walther Match Barrel
Post by: Fronzdan on January 23, 2013, 08:26:02 PM
I'm pretty sure he got it from Josh Perrin. I also bought an LW from him.  Mine he specifically said was from a 1720.  It is 12" and is an LW.  The lead-in is different than the 22xx and 13xx design.  Close, but not the same.  The transfer port area is slightly different too.  It's flatter.  There are flat spots on the "top" of the barrel which are likely for mounting in the 1720 breech and probably for the shroud mount.  There is no o-ring in the lead-in.  I want to compare it to the LW in my 1701.  I suspect they will be interchangeable.