I have been playing around with my new toy, and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a 2 stage trigger for a 2300kt. It has a lothar walther barrel, and it is .177 cal. I know I can give the trigger a good polishing and play with the spring to make it shoot easier, but I know if I do that, I will still get a 2 stage trigger down the line. So I might as well go for it. Plus it would be my first mod on this pistol ;D.
I only had the gun a week, and I can already tell I have to get my wife a pistol so I can have mine back. Looks like this can be an expensive hobby.
The 1701-p grip frame from Crosman is what you seek. Around 40 couple bucks the last I checked.If you have custom grips they may require some inletting work on the inside.
^^^X2^^^
Without a doubt the best trigger available for any Crosman.
I agree, very good mod. Using the 1701 grip assembly will require a new or modified original striker (hammer).
You can fill the waist gap on your original hammer with JB Weld putty.
Thank you for the info on this mod. I will have to do see if I can find some tutorials it to see if it is within my skills to tackle this.
Quote from: SouthernBoy on September 30, 2016, 02:09:41 PM
Thank you for the info on this mod. I will have to do see if I can find some tutorials it to see if it is within my skills to tackle this.
It's a simple one to one replacement for the 1701 trigger and handle group (2 screws). DON"T loose the safety and/or safety spring. The hammer is more difficult because it involves the, also easy to loose, transfer port when the barrel is removed in order to remove the cocking pin from the hammer.
If you don't want to redo your hammer/striker using liquid steel, Rich at Ye Ole Airgun Shoppe machines an excellent hammer for the 1701 grip assembly stainless steel and great finish, very reasonable, Rich is Arkmaker on our forum :-* :-* :-*
Bill :)
I had some time to look at the 1701p grip frame today, and it is a very nice looking trigger assembly. And I see why you use the 1701p trigger since it is a Very good Gun. I love the 2 adjustable screws for the first and second stage. I think I will try this mod, but it might be a while once I do some more researching, and get that second job that I see myself needing for my new hobby :D. Does Rich have a web site, or do I just need to get in touch with him by PM?
Also, what can you get the trigger pull down to in pounds? And do you know where I can find a tutorial on doing this mod? Never hurts to see the steps someone else has already done before I start.
I do have custom grips, Walnut Target Grip(left handed), and was wondering how much inletting was needed on the grips to fit onto the 1701p?
This link will get you up to speed on the hammer mod: http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10655.msg131723.html#msg131723 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10655.msg131723.html#msg131723)
This one will take you to Arkmakers site: http://yeoleairgunshop.yolasite.com/ (http://yeoleairgunshop.yolasite.com/)
Thank you 007 for the links. That is just what I was looking for.
Quote from: mr007s on October 01, 2016, 04:44:36 AM
This link will get you up to speed on the hammer mod: http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10655.msg131723.html#msg131723 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10655.msg131723.html#msg131723)
This one will take you to Arkmakers site: http://yeoleairgunshop.yolasite.com/ (http://yeoleairgunshop.yolasite.com/)
Mr. 007, do you still have those C02 caps? I left my brass and ss versions in the Philippines..Both are for the 2400kt, btw. Would like to at least have 1 piece in ss although I do not have a Crosman pistol atm but you will never know..I am into powderburners currently..Also, I have made New Mexico my permanent residence. Thanks.
Quote from: crossliner on October 01, 2016, 03:42:43 PM
Mr. 007, do you still have those C02 caps? I left my brass and ss versions in the Philippines..Both are for the 2400kt, btw. Would like to at least have 1 piece in ss although I do not have a Crosman pistol atm but you will never know..I am into powderburners currently..Also, I have made New Mexico my permanent residence. Thanks.
No Sir I sure don't, wish I did. I quit the caps a long time back. I retired in early 2015 and enjoying the good life. New Mexico is a great place to live, plenty of open land to explore and enjoy.
mr007s,,,,,Life is Good
Thank you :-*
Well, I finally got my 1701-p grip frame and in the process of installing it, I do not have the correct size Allen wrench for the screw under the bolt(trying to take out the hammer to modify it with JB weld). Any idea what size Allen wrench it is? Hopefully tomorrow, I can go and get one.
The little breech screw in the loading port requires a 0.050 allen head wrench. Make sure to get the wrench fully into the screw before attempting to remove it.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,12289.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,12289.0.html)
May help.....
Wow, I never knew they went that small. Smallest Allen head wrench I have is 1.5mm. Any suggestions on where to pick one up? I cannot seem to find any doing a google search. Thanks for the help CraigH
Most SAE sets have a 0.050" as the smallest size. Note - do not use ball-end allen wrench on this screw.
Here is a partial set:
https://www.amazon.com/Team-Associated-6950-Allen-Wrench/dp/B0006NAMLI/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1480033520&sr=8-29&keywords=allen+wrenches (https://www.amazon.com/Team-Associated-6950-Allen-Wrench/dp/B0006NAMLI/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1480033520&sr=8-29&keywords=allen+wrenches)
ahhh.... I see the problem, when I saw .050 I thought metric, not SAE :-[. Thanks for clarifying that for me CraigH. Guess tomorrow, I will be fighting the black Friday crowd to get a little bitty allen wrench :(.
Quote from: SouthernBoy on November 25, 2016, 03:35:19 AM
ahhh.... I see the problem, when I saw .050 I thought metric, not SAE :-[. Thanks for clarifying that for me CraigH. Guess tomorrow, I will be fighting the black Friday crowd to get a little bitty allen wrench :(.
Just go down to the local hardware store, they will have it...
Finished installing the 2 stage trigger, and it feels ALOT smother and lighter pull. Was hoping to shoot it today, but I ran out of daylight. Hoping for a nice and quiet day tomorrow to play around with it.
Your going to love it once you get it set just right for yourself :-* :-*
I have mine set for a long 1st stage. It comes to a positive stop.....and then all I need to do is think about it and it breaks the 2nd stage....BAMM! Made my crappy shooting skills a lot less crappy, but you do have to think about stopping at that first stage stop. Seems every time I shoot it after a powder burner session, I pull right though it for the first 4-5 shots until I realize I'm not shooting a high recoil pistol ;D Love it!
Still, though as light as mine is set, I have never seen any set as light as Carl had his (all his shooters)! When I got the 1701P and MRod from him, I could not control them! So light was the pressure! Then the Edge came from him.....same damn thing. I asked him about it and he just said that was how he preferred it.. very light touch on that old fella :-* For me, I had to stiffen them up a tad.