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Title: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: Crosshairs on February 28, 2011, 11:01:56 PM
 Just got this last week.Gonna give it a shot,my first part will be a brass safety lol. Then a valve.  did a bolt handle today.                
                               Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: bdb12586 on February 28, 2011, 11:41:01 PM
very nice, been looking for a used one for some time now.
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: arkmaker † on February 28, 2011, 11:42:41 PM
cool Mike! Take your time and keep your fingers away from the chuck and you'll be golden!
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: mr007s on March 01, 2011, 12:06:02 AM
Trust me, take the chuck key out before you turn it on! :-[
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Crosshairs on March 01, 2011, 12:33:21 AM
Thanks for the heads up,this models key has a spring at the end as a safety,it wont stay in the chuck.But the one at my old job did not.And no long sleeve's. :-*
               Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: 1377x on March 01, 2011, 12:34:53 AM
congrats
start cranking out those parts :-*
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: magicniner on March 01, 2011, 01:02:23 AM
That's definitely the way to go!
You know you have a problem when you find yourself using the lathe to make tooling to allow you to make a part  :)
Regards,
nick
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Crosshairs on March 01, 2011, 01:50:10 AM
  LOL   :-*
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: quickster47 † on March 01, 2011, 02:11:51 AM
Oh Lordy, the world will never be safe again.  Mad Man Mike is on the loose, armed and dangerous with a lathe.

Carl
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: airguns100 on March 01, 2011, 02:13:57 AM
a hobby lathe and a drill press makes everything so much easier when you want to play around modding stuff.. i use a hand drill clamped in a bench vise, then use a moto tool if i want to spin stuff sometimes  ;D

good job on the tools corvettemike  :P :-* 8)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Crosshairs on March 01, 2011, 02:44:28 AM
I like that Carl, Mad Man Mike  ;D lmao   I wanted to do this for a long time and now have the time,so wish me luck.Still waiting for bits and a Quick change tool post holder,they shipped in 2 boxes.
                                  Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: arkmaker † on March 01, 2011, 02:48:48 AM
Bolt that puppy down to the table top. It'll help, trust me on this one  :-*
Rich
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Crosshairs on March 01, 2011, 02:53:57 AM
I dont know if im gonna keep it there i wanna put another bench in, to the right need to move lots of stuff.gotta watch the back.
                 Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: tatsumi on March 01, 2011, 09:00:55 AM
Nice set up and theres much more satisfaction in making your own stuff.
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Stian17722 on March 01, 2011, 11:51:45 AM
Wow, very cool indeed.
I wish i had the room for some decent lathe and milling tools, you can never have too much tools ;D
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: packrat on March 01, 2011, 12:14:57 PM
NICE !! I am happy for you!!! Wish I'd learned to operate stuff like that before I got this old....
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: quickster47 † on March 01, 2011, 01:11:15 PM
Quote from: packrat on March 01, 2011, 12:14:57 PM
NICE !! I am happy for you!!! Wish I'd learned to operate stuff like that before I got this old...

Dude, you can still learn!  I did and so far I still have all my fingers and other important pieces parts.  Go for it.  No excuse.  You have plenty of time to perfect your skill set.

Carl
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Crosshairs on March 01, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
I agree with Carl. Im 57 and only used a lathe at work a short times,they only had it a year or so before i retired.But it was a fun tool. :-*
                      Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: magicniner on March 01, 2011, 02:02:13 PM
Quote from: packrat on March 01, 2011, 12:14:57 PM
NICE !! I am happy for you!!! Wish I'd learned to operate stuff like that before I got this old....

You don't have to be young to learn, just interested  ;)
Try it!
ATB,
Nick
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: NorthStaR on March 01, 2011, 02:33:19 PM
Cool, me like yes!  :-*

So whats on the agenda? What you gonna make (me)?  ;)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Crosshairs on March 01, 2011, 11:59:32 PM
Thanks everyone,i was playing today trying different bits and stuff.I guess you figured out the rest of the order came.I just need to get all the controls down.i had an old brass drift pin i was turnng and faceing.just trying stuff.
                          Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: the old guy on March 02, 2011, 03:07:48 AM
Well Mr. Mike looks like you've got yourself a heck of a friend magnet. You probably thought you had a lot of friends before, but I would guess you have a brand-new hundred or more new ones. Keep us updated on all the neat parts you'll be making.
Lee
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: zenki213 on March 02, 2011, 03:59:56 AM
Wowowow  :D Can't wait to see your first creation with that sweet thing
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Crosshairs on March 02, 2011, 05:04:01 AM
How do you work this thing ? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: millipede on March 02, 2011, 05:32:28 AM
how much was that thing? i went to home depot a couple months ago and asked if they had any a mini lathe and the girl didnt even know what a lathe was! they didnt carry them BTW. they had a mini drill press and other "mini" bench top tools but no lathe....
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: T191032 on March 02, 2011, 06:08:29 AM
Give it its own good, sturdy bench, bolted down securely as suggested.  You won't regret doing so.   :-*  (From someone with literally no mechanical know-how, but knows those with it - Dad's automotive store used to have a Machine Shop when he was in business.  ;) ) 

Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: 1377x on March 02, 2011, 07:17:12 AM
Quote from: millipede on March 02, 2011, 05:32:28 AM
how much was that thing? i went to home depot a couple months ago and asked if they had any a mini lathe and the girl didnt even know what a lathe was! they didnt carry them BTW. they had a mini drill press and other "mini" bench top tools but no lathe....
try harbor freight tools
i saw some good deals on craigslist also
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts
Post by: Crosshairs on March 02, 2011, 02:00:44 PM
Habor Freight has them for 20% off it was 300.00 with the discount.I had to get the loot from the wife, i have to pay her back this time ;D
                             Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part
Post by: Crosshairs on March 02, 2011, 05:13:12 PM
First part in the works, no laughing !!  ;D
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: airguns100 on March 02, 2011, 05:17:50 PM
try making a shroud mike. its easier. a bolt or something like that. the safety looks good so far.  ;D :-X

edit. make sure you wear safety stuff. you only get one trigger finger.  8)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: magicniner on March 02, 2011, 06:12:15 PM
Looking Good!
You'll be surprised how many kind people will find things they've broken for you to fix when the find out you have that on your bench  ;)
Regards,
Nick
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: Crosshairs on March 02, 2011, 06:29:32 PM
Yep already found that out Nick. Im makeing the safety for a friend then one for me.Shroud next airguns100 said there easy so ill give it a shot.Pretty much just need to drill a hole then shape it.tap for a screw maybe drill some holes in the side.Cut some lines in the side well see.
                        Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: Crosshairs on March 02, 2011, 07:31:23 PM
Done Not much but its a start !
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: Oane on March 02, 2011, 07:45:23 PM
Looking nice mike!

so... now you gonna make everyone a brass safety? or.. can you make me a stainless extra long one ;)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: Crosshairs on March 02, 2011, 08:51:53 PM
I will give it a try, i need to pick if some rods no SS as of now i will look for a bolt or something.
                                     Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: zenki213 on March 02, 2011, 09:58:27 PM
I can't wait for you to start experimenting on Brass/SS Barrel Bands for 13xx :P
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: mr007s on March 02, 2011, 10:09:42 PM
I'll take a SS trigger frame assembly, SS tube, 3 SS trigger shoes,couple SS flame surpressors, and a SS Power adjuster with a pellet holder and 6 SS extended flow thru probes with a great big SS coching handle. No rush, can I get them by Saturday? ;D
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: the old guy on March 02, 2011, 10:25:19 PM
  what Mr. 007   wants, ditto   Lee
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: Crosshairs on March 02, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
Hold on let me write this down  ;D  ;D
        Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: airguns100 on March 02, 2011, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: mr007s on March 02, 2011, 10:09:42 PM
I'll take a SS trigger frame assembly, SS tube, 3 SS trigger shoes,couple SS flame surpressors, and a SS Power adjuster with a pellet holder and 6 SS extended flow thru probes with a great big SS coching handle. No rush, can I get them by Saturday? ;D

i'm shipping some SS out to Don cothran tomorrow, to CNC machine some frames.   
i think he's also thinking about making some SS barrel bands for pump guns.  ;)

Don also has SS tubes, SS power adjuster, SS bolts. In fact you should just check out his website. Thats all he does is SS parts.
he can machine brass stuff, but he main is SS
http://www.cothranmachine.com/ (http://www.cothranmachine.com/)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: Crosshairs on March 02, 2011, 11:49:25 PM
I have a order with Don now he called me last week said about a week and half my goods will be ready.I installed the safety i made and it works fine i made 3 today.
       Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: mr007s on March 03, 2011, 12:25:17 AM
Quote from: airguns100 on March 02, 2011, 11:24:26 PM
i'm shipping some SS out to Don cothran tomorrow, to CNC machine some frames.   
i think he's also thinking about making some SS barrel bands for pump guns.  ;)

Don also has SS tubes, SS power adjuster, SS bolts. In fact you should just check out his website. Thats all he does is SS parts.
he can machine brass stuff, but he main is SS
http://www.cothranmachine.com/ (http://www.cothranmachine.com/)

OH  YES, I have a SS breech and a couple extended probes from Don. Will the frames be listed on his site or is this a personal limited run? I will be wanting one you know :-*
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: swclemmons on March 03, 2011, 02:16:26 AM
Quote from: airguns100 on March 02, 2011, 11:24:26 PM
i'm shipping some SS out to Don cothran tomorrow, to CNC machine some frames.   

i ordered from him not long ago he does great work. put me on the list for SS frame as well :)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: ChokingVictim on March 03, 2011, 02:45:38 AM
Great job Mike!
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: Crosshairs on March 03, 2011, 02:56:44 AM
Thanks to all. the  2nd and 3rd went so much faster.Im learing.
                  Mike
Title: You Are Off To A Great Start
Post by: airgunenthusiast on March 03, 2011, 01:39:10 PM
That is a solidly constructed lathe that can create an endless variety of small airgun parts.  Your pistol safety pin project turned out really well.    FYI - If you intend to cut much aluminum or brass you might consider purchasing a benchtop bandsaw and then install a bi-metal blade on it.  It will cut non-ferrous metals with ease & precision.   AE
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts Updated First Part no laughing
Post by: Crosshairs on March 03, 2011, 02:10:10 PM
Thanks alot for the tip ! i do have a small bandsaw and was wondering what blade to use, now i know. im happy you like the safety,your opinoin means alot.its just a hobbie and i get much pleasure turning my own parts.you never know maybe i can make some extra cash.
                            Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts new first valve mod
Post by: Crosshairs on March 03, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Found a old brass valve,so i tryed my first valve mod.And my 2nd safety this one has a better finish then the 1st one.
                        Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts new first valve mod
Post by: Crosshairs on March 03, 2011, 09:27:19 PM
more pics   OK  no more pics.
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts new first valve mod
Post by: Oane on March 03, 2011, 10:14:19 PM
we always want more pics! :)

nice work mike! i don't mind saying I'm a bit envious of you and your machine and your gun collection!
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts new first valve mod
Post by: Crosshairs on March 03, 2011, 10:21:33 PM
Thank you my friend.Thats what happens when you cant work any more due to back,but not a bad thing in a way.
                        Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts new first valve mod
Post by: ChokingVictim on March 04, 2011, 01:44:05 AM
Great job Mike!
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts new first valve mod
Post by: Crosshairs on March 04, 2011, 02:24:44 AM
Thanks Tom ! next safety for my 2260.i will work my way up to bigger projects. Valve before shot.
                   Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts ------- new --- first valve mod
Post by: bdb12586 on March 04, 2011, 02:56:24 AM
looking good mike, when you goint to start makeing FT pistons.
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts ------- new --- first valve mod
Post by: Crosshairs on March 04, 2011, 03:01:19 AM
I need to order one so i can copy it.I dont wanna pull mine from my 1377,plus i need another one for my other 1377.
                Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts ------- new --- first valve mod
Post by: Crosshairs on March 05, 2011, 12:46:30 PM
Anyone know where i can get lathe bits and accessories, did i spell that right ?   i suck at spelling  ;D
                                 Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts ------- new --- first valve mod
Post by: mr007s on March 05, 2011, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 05, 2011, 12:46:30 PM
Anyone know where i can get lathe bits and accessories, did i spell that right ?   i suck at spelling  ;D
                                 Mike

Try McMaster-Carr, Grainger, and MSC just to name a few.
your spelling doesn't have to suck, Google has a free download that will fix that with just a few clicks :-*
Title: Lathe bits
Post by: airgunenthusiast on March 05, 2011, 04:00:19 PM
Here are some affordable 1/4" lathe bits which are good for small work.  Cost depends on material - HSS - Carbide - & where the tooling was made.  Be sure to get some center drills a live center too.  Harbor Freight, Grizzly, Little Machine Shop, Amazon, Ebay, etc. are good sources for affordable tooling & accessories.

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?category=&q=lathe+bit (http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?category=&q=lathe+bit)

http://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece-indexable-carbide-tool-set-39931.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece-indexable-carbide-tool-set-39931.html)

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Carbide-Tipped-Tool-Bit-Sets-1-4-20-pc-/G9775 (http://www.grizzly.com/products/Carbide-Tipped-Tool-Bit-Sets-1-4-20-pc-/G9775)

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=lathe+tooling&x=3&y=17 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=lathe+tooling&x=3&y=17)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts ------- new --- first valve mod
Post by: Crosshairs on March 05, 2011, 05:41:04 PM
Thanks for the info guys.Grizzy has what i was looking for.
                     Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts ------- new --- first valve mod
Post by: zuke on March 08, 2011, 05:09:19 AM
I use to pick up a lot of tooling off EBAY
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts ------- new --- first valve mod
Post by: Crosshairs on March 08, 2011, 02:08:34 PM
Thanks Zuke i have found some stuff on ebay.
              Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts ------- new --- first valve mod
Post by: zuke on March 08, 2011, 02:14:45 PM
Keep an eye on it, especially the newest listing's with a buy-it-now feature.
You might pay a bit more but at least you'll know you have it.
The small indexable carbide insert's and holder's were my favorite's.
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: Crosshairs on March 09, 2011, 01:27:13 AM
I made this bolt handle today for my custom 2300KT, pics before polish and after.
                                    Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: arkmaker † on March 09, 2011, 02:02:31 AM
Nice Mike  :-*
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: quickster47 † on March 09, 2011, 02:25:26 AM
Nice job there Mike.

Here is one of my most favorite places to buy lathe or mill tools and such.

http://littlemachineshop.com/ (http://littlemachineshop.com/)

Carl
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: zuke on March 09, 2011, 02:46:14 AM
Now that's nice!
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: Crosshairs on March 09, 2011, 03:35:11 AM
Thanks everyone and thank you Carl for the link for the lathe tools. here is a shot of the handle on the gun.
                             Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: arkmaker † on March 09, 2011, 03:44:39 AM
That is a sweet looking "custom" Made in the good ole USA bolt handle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: 62Falcon on March 09, 2011, 03:56:06 AM
You done good!

~Falcon
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: zenki213 on March 09, 2011, 04:10:38 AM
hehe nice  :-* anytime now you'll be starting to take orders n do business!
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: Crosshairs on March 09, 2011, 05:17:40 AM
OK what next ? Thanks to all
              Mike
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: airguns100 on March 09, 2011, 05:22:50 AM
the bolt handle looks pretty good Mike. not bad  :-*

Spin a aluminum brake next.  8)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: Crosshairs on March 09, 2011, 11:10:35 PM
one more !
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: NorthStaR on March 09, 2011, 11:28:03 PM
Mike your making some great parts and progress to boot! Fantastic!   8)
The possibilities are endless with your new machine.... :-*

You know its going to pay for itself at the rate your going!
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: eric on March 10, 2011, 01:45:00 AM
lookin' good mike  :-*
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: Stian17722 on March 10, 2011, 11:18:38 AM
Very nice piece, looks like something one can loose a lot of hours fiddling with. :-*

A bolt handle like that in steel, black anodized would be really cool, long before you will be taking orders? :-)
Title: Re: Time to make my own parts!!!! update 3/8/11 Custom bolt handle
Post by: Crosshairs on March 10, 2011, 01:35:54 PM
Thanks again to everyone for the kind words. I kinda have a small order already, makeing a brass safety for mr007 in trade for parts. as far as taken orders i wouldnt even know what to charge.But i guess i could get help with that.
                                      Mike