Im looking to put a red dot on my other gun, i dont know what to look for as far brand name,accuracy,and MAO and what ever else i am leaving out.
I see most come with the weaver type mount but i have a 3/8 dove tail. I guess i need a adapter but i dont even know what mount to look for.
So with that being said please throw some links,prices,model numbers and your great thoughts my way.
I am not trying to spend a arm and two legs on a red dot either :-*
depending on the red dot you get there are replacement rings so you wont need an adapter or there are red dots that come with a 3/8-11mm dovetail base
im using a tasco pdp3 red dot on my gun.i like it a lot in this pic its using an adapter but when i remount it 30mm med height rings will replace the adapter
the dot is 5moa iirc a little large when shooting indoors with less light,out in the daylight the dot is pin-point perfect for pesting target shooting and the parallax error is very little
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/P3270399.jpg)
i thought that was called a reflex dot ???
this is a reflex sight
http://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Reticle-Reflex-Sight-Weaver-Picatinny/dp/B003NFI092/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1343157792&sr=1-1&keywords=reflex+sight (http://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Reticle-Reflex-Sight-Weaver-Picatinny/dp/B003NFI092/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1343157792&sr=1-1&keywords=reflex+sight)
im backwards. some sites still list them as being red dots
BSA makes one with a 4 (or 5) MOA dot size that comes with a 3/8 and 5/8" mount. The 3/8" works great on an 11mm rail. I have one on my 2240 now. It's not a great sight but it's decent and has held position pretty well for me on two different airguns now. I bought it locally for $35 but Pyramyd (and probably everyone else has them): http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BSA_30mm_Red_Dot_Sight_3_8_and_Weaver_Mount/2944 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BSA_30mm_Red_Dot_Sight_3_8_and_Weaver_Mount/2944)
Our Walmart was closing out their scopes and I grabbed a Tasco Red Dot on clearance for $25 but it required an 11mm to Weaver adaptor. I used this one, which I already had: http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_11mm_to_Weaver_Adapter_Vertical_Scope_Stop_Pin/2401 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_11mm_to_Weaver_Adapter_Vertical_Scope_Stop_Pin/2401) I have it on my IZH-61. I like it because it has a slightly less fuzzy dot but I don't know yet how well it will hold its position. I've only had it a couple weeks. http://www.amazon.com/Tasco-30mm-Rifle-Scope-Reticle/dp/B000GF1HKQ (http://www.amazon.com/Tasco-30mm-Rifle-Scope-Reticle/dp/B000GF1HKQ) For only $25 I may go back and grab another.
The BSA that includes 3/8" mounts
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn69/jerrywrussell/crosmans1.jpg)
was looking at this one it has 2.5 MOA is that good :o
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUGLO-2x42-Red-Dot-Sight-2-5-MOA-Red-Green-Camo-TG8030DC2-/261070667293?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc9063e1d#ht_768wt_1177 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUGLO-2x42-Red-Dot-Sight-2-5-MOA-Red-Green-Camo-TG8030DC2-/261070667293?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc9063e1d#ht_768wt_1177)
Quote from: ham484 on July 24, 2012, 09:51:02 PM
was looking at this one it has 2.5 MOA is that good :o
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUGLO-2x42-Red-Dot-Sight-2-5-MOA-Red-Green-Camo-TG8030DC2-/261070667293?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc9063e1d#ht_768wt_1177 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUGLO-2x42-Red-Dot-Sight-2-5-MOA-Red-Green-Camo-TG8030DC2-/261070667293?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc9063e1d#ht_768wt_1177)
Yes, a 2.5 MOA dot size will cover less of the target than the larger 4 or 5 MOA dots on the cheaper sights I posted. I'm not familiar with the sight you linked to but look for online reviews--it might be a winner.
My main complaint with the sights I have is that the dot size is too large for really accurate target shooting--like 5 to 10 yard paper targets where the bullseye may be around 1/4" to 3/8" in diameter. The dots on mine totaly cover the bullseye and then some.
The $10 adaptor I linked to earlier would probably work with the sight you linked to. I'm very happy with the adaptor--it's very solid. Here's a shot of it on my IZH-61:
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn69/jerrywrussell/reddots2.jpg)
Quote from: jdub on July 24, 2012, 10:03:33 PM
Yes, a 2.5 MOA dot size will cover less of the target than the larger 4 or 5 MOA dots on the cheaper sights I posted. I'm not familiar with the sight you linked to but look for online reviews--it might be a winner.
My main complaint with the sights I have is that the dot size is too large for really accurate target shooting--like 5 to 10 yard paper targets where the bullseye may be around 1/4" to 3/8" in diameter. The dots on mine totaly cover the bullseye and then some.
The $10 adaptor I linked to earlier would probably work with the sight you linked to. I'm very happy with the adaptor--it's very solid. Here's a shot of it on my IZH-61:
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn69/jerrywrussell/reddots2.jpg)
like jdub said check everywhere you can for reviews
i recently sold that same tasco red dot with adapter here i think for $20.nothing wrong with the tasco it was very accurate and could take bumps
i sold it because i dont like rd30 red dots by any brand imo to much objective.with the tasco pdp3 its a 25mm objective and imo less parallax error
2.5moa is going to be like a pinpoint dot which is good for shooting 25yds or more.the rd30's cover the target at 25yds with a 5moa dot
we had a thread here not long ago someone got a red dot and has been happy with it
ill see if i can find the thread
Quote from: 1377x on July 24, 2012, 10:35:41 PM
with the tasco pdp3 its a 25mm objective and imo less parallax error
I'll have to keep an eye out for the sight you're talking about. Up to this point I haven't been serious at all about Red Dots. I use iron sights on my good target pistols and will probably continue to do so.
I bought the BSA because it was cheap and I wanted to try one on my Benji 392. It worked well for plinking. I put it on the 2240 because for some reason I usually end up moving the stock plastic Crosman sights all the way to left to get my windage set. It happened on this 2240 and on two 1377s I've had. Must be me but regardless I still end up with the sight hanging half off the barrel on the left side :-) Since the 2240 is for plinking I figured the BSA would be fine.
I grabbed the Tasco because it was cheap and I wanted something for my IZH-61 until I accumulate a few more bucks for a nice scope. It works okay but the sight is less accurate than the rifle is--never a good thing. I'll probably grab another Bugbuster for this one.
I really would like to try a very high quality, smaller dot size, red dot sight at some point to see if it would be worth spending more. I just don't know anyone around here who has one.
Thanks yet again for the info!
Red dot sights come in two basic flavors: tube-style and reflex. I own both types and like them with the nudge going to the reflex-style as my favorite. They are fine for target shooting, plinking and small vermin eradication. They are not as precise as scopes. I am not overly comfortable using scopes on pistols, so I choose more often to use a red dot. Red dots provide a wide range of view, both eyes can be open for quick target acquisition, brightness and style of the dot adjusted for varing environmental conditions, and holdover is easier than using open sights.
The finest red dot holographic sights cost in excess of $400.
I use both scopes and red dots on my pistols for target shooting, but I favor the red dots, and I prefer Tasco over BSA. RC
I bought a couple of these. They come from China so it takes a while but for the price they're solid.
11mm to Weaver
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11mm-to-20-mm-Weaver-Adapter-Dovetail-Rail-Extension-/221038677389?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376ee8d8d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/11mm-to-20-mm-Weaver-Adapter-Dovetail-Rail-Extension-/221038677389?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376ee8d8d)
I have both the BSA and the Tasco dot sights. They are both great sights for the money but I slightly prefer the Tasco over the BSA like RC.
These work pretty well too on the Crosman dovetail..
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=380457434700&index=9&nav=SEARCH&nid=34529358397 (http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=380457434700&index=9&nav=SEARCH&nid=34529358397)
Put this UTG on my 2240...no additional mount necessary...it does come with one however....it's great red/green dot and very accurate.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IZHN8U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IZHN8U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00)
are you still likn the red dot bradpsu??
Yes, no issues what so ever. It actually is much better on batteries than I had thought it might be. I would highly recommend it to anyone interested in purchasing one....it's actually cheaper now on Amazon than when I snagged mine. Almost $10 cheaper.....
That looks like the one i have on my nightstalker i like it's very clear and round dot.
Mike 8)
Quote from: bradpsu on July 25, 2012, 03:57:54 AM
Put this UTG on my 2240...no additional mount necessary...it does come with one however....it's great red/green dot and very accurate.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IZHN8U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IZHN8U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00)
That is a nice looking pistol! The sight looks good on it.
I think you're right Crosshairs, looks the same. Thanks jdub!
Wow, that red dot has a 1/2 MOA dot, huh? And is the dot nice and round? No smeary smudginess to it like Ive seen on other low cost dots?
I have an older Tasco on my 2240. The thing was great for what I originally bought it for - a .45 race gun I used for steel plates. It has an enormous tube...like 50mm so target acquisition is fast and easy. But for target shooting?? The dot is way too big. At 10 yards, it covers the targets completely. It looks a little goofy on the smaller framed Crosman too. I may pick one of these up.
My UTG (same as Leapers) has an adjustable brightness like most do. It allows you to make the dot very small and precise at the lower settings. It's a quality piece of optics, really made well. It's not the cheapest but it's worth the extra cash IMHO. Plus I think it looks great on the 2240.
Quote from: Fronzdan on July 25, 2012, 07:50:48 PM
Wow, that red dot has a 1/2 MOA dot, huh? And is the dot nice and round?
Correct me if I'm wrong but the 1/2 MOA in the product title on Amazon is referring to the click adjustment increments and not the dot size.
Sorry, posted the incorrect linkThe actual dot size is listed here as 5 MOA. http://leapersreddot.blogspot.com/2012/02/buy-discount-truglo-red-dot-30mm-dual.html (http://leapersreddot.blogspot.com/2012/02/buy-discount-truglo-red-dot-30mm-dual.html)A lot of advertisers do this. You have to be careful.
Quote from: jdub on July 25, 2012, 08:25:12 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the 1/2 MOA in the product title on Amazon is referring to the click adjustment increments and not the dot size.
The actual dot size is listed here as 5 MOA. http://leapersreddot.blogspot.com/2012/02/buy-discount-truglo-red-dot-30mm-dual.html (http://leapersreddot.blogspot.com/2012/02/buy-discount-truglo-red-dot-30mm-dual.html)
A lot of advertisers do this. You have to be careful.
the specs say truglo thats not the scope bradpsu and crosshairs have
the dot they have is closer to this one
http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=optic&level1=Dot_Sight&level2=&itemno=SCP-DS3068W&status=&mtrack=6m (http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=optic&level1=Dot_Sight&level2=&itemno=SCP-DS3068W&status=&mtrack=6m)
Quote from: 1377x on July 25, 2012, 10:15:13 PM
the specs say truglo thats not the scope bradpsu and crosshairs have
Dang! Sorry about that. :-[
Here ya go, Straight from Leapers. 4 MOA dot. http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=optic&level1=Dot_Sight&level2=&itemno=SCP-DS3068W&status=&mtrack=6m (http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?mitem=optic&level1=Dot_Sight&level2=&itemno=SCP-DS3068W&status=&mtrack=6m)
I matched the part number with Pyramyd's. Interesting but Pyramyd doesn't list the actual dot size either.
4moa is still better than 5moa which most economical red dots have
Quote from: 1377x on July 25, 2012, 10:29:49 PM
4moa is still better than 5moa which most economical red dots have
Absolutely!
I didn't mean this as a knock against the sight. More of a complaint about the deceptive advertising. You have to really do some digging to find out the actual dot size--that shouldn't be the case.
gotcha!!
there was a link to a truglo rd iirc it said 2.5moa
now i wonder if its really a 2.5moa dot
if it thats great!
Quote from: 1377x on July 25, 2012, 10:40:49 PM
gotcha!!
there was a link to a truglo rd iirc it said 2.5moa
now i wonder if its really a 2.5moa dot
if it thats great!
I'm sorry about that. I sure didn't mean to come across as knocking the quality of the sight--I apologize that it sounded that way. iI was actually thinking that that particular sight looked much better on the gun and was very likely a higher quality than anything I'm using.
The reason I jumped in was because I had recently been searching for a better dot sight online and found a different sight listed as 1/2 MOA and it wasn't until I was about ready to order that I came across a review of the sight that reported that actual dot size as 5 MOA and the 1/2 MOA referred to the adjustment increments. It ticked me off and I really do think it's deceptive.
Thanks for letting me know my post sounded negative. I'll be more careful.
imo your post didnt sound negative and you are correct someone will see the ad thinking they are getting a $60 that has a better dot than $200 rd
then when they get the rd they will be in for a surprise
*******, since I posted the link to Amazon my scope went up ten bucks! They must have known we were talking about it.....Bastards!
Quote from: bradpsu on July 25, 2012, 11:51:25 PM
*******, since I posted the link to Amazon my scope went up ten bucks! They must have known we were talking about it.....Bastards!
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i458/swag81875/SMILEYS/lmao.gif)
someone washed my mouth out with soap! ;D
Quote from: jdub on July 25, 2012, 10:48:22 PM
I'm sorry about that. I sure didn't mean to come across as knocking the quality of the sight--I apologize that it sounded that way. iI was actually thinking that that particular sight looked much better on the gun and was very likely a higher quality than anything I'm using.
The reason I jumped in was because I had recently been searching for a better dot sight online and found a different sight listed as 1/2 MOA and it wasn't until I was about ready to order that I came across a review of the sight that reported that actual dot size as 5 MOA and the 1/2 MOA referred to the adjustment increments. It ticked me off and I really do think it's deceptive.
Thanks for letting me know my post sounded negative. I'll be more careful.
The ultimate red dot for us I think.
http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_006.htm (http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_006.htm)
Mr. Quickster seems to have one on one of his Crosmans.
"The ultimate red dot for us I think.
http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_006.htm (http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_006.htm)
Mr. Quickster seems to have one on one of his Crosmans."
That's a nice unit but...$220 U.S. :D
It's like mounting a second Custom Shop Gun ($$$) to your first Custom Shop Gun!
Quote from: crossliner on July 26, 2012, 05:10:22 PM
The ultimate red dot for us I think.
http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_006.htm (http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_006.htm)
Mr. Quickster seems to have one on one of his Crosmans.
thats the one i am thinking about!!!
nate has this style on his and he is happy with it
http://www.amazon.com/Style-Military-Tactical-Green-Combat/dp/B0057AXBVI/ref=sr_1_114?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1343318451&sr=1-114&keywords=reflex+sight (http://www.amazon.com/Style-Military-Tactical-Green-Combat/dp/B0057AXBVI/ref=sr_1_114?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1343318451&sr=1-114&keywords=reflex+sight)
http://www.amazon.com/552-Military-Tactical-Red-Dot/dp/B006RN5LQ2/ref=sr_1_237?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1343318564&sr=1-237&keywords=reflex+sight (http://www.amazon.com/552-Military-Tactical-Red-Dot/dp/B006RN5LQ2/ref=sr_1_237?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1343318564&sr=1-237&keywords=reflex+sight)
Good God! That ultra dot is $444 list and $264 on Amazon.....no thanks! It better hit the bulls eye AND reload AND fire for you at that price! :o
Quote from: bradpsu on July 26, 2012, 09:50:00 PM
Good God! That ultra dot is $444 list and $264 on Amazon.....no thanks! It better hit the bulls eye AND reload AND fire for you at that price! :o
They're extremely popular with rimfire competition shooters. Guys who are seriously into it. Their Ruger MKII's are kind of like our 2240s and 1377s. The Legos of the rimfire world :)
Exactly, the guys with the Ruger .22's and the race-gun guys luv e'm... for us, pretty spendy stuff comparedto the base gun $$$.
Kinda like a $900 Schmidt & Bender or Zeiss rifle scope on a model 760 :D
Quote from: BDS on July 26, 2012, 09:59:20 PM
Kinda like a $900 Schmidt & Bender or Zeiss rifle scope on a model 760 :D
Haha I bet somewhere in the world, there's someone doing that.
A little bit of coolness from the good people at Pyramyd.
I emailed them (Pyramyd) yesterday regarding the fact that the red dot sight bradpsu has was advertised prominently on their site as "1/2 MOA" and that I thought it was deceptive. They replied this morning and said they agreed and they are going to change it. They said it might take a few days for the change to take place but to watch for it.
Nice.
thats good to know they read the emails and dont send a general response like "looking into it"
Quote from: 1377x on July 27, 2012, 04:42:22 AM
thats good to know they read the emails and dont send a general response like "looking into it"
Yeah, I've been buying from Pyramyd for many years and they've always treated me well. Good people.
QuoteThe ultimate red dot for us I think.
http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_006.htm (http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_006.htm)
X2! Someday...
Cheers,
1377 the ones you posted are nice
Quote from: bradpsu on July 25, 2012, 03:57:54 AM
Put this UTG on my 2240...no additional mount necessary...it does come with one however....it's great red/green dot and very accurate.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IZHN8U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IZHN8U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00)
I have been thinking about getting a red dot for a while now. After reading the reviews here I ordered one from PA but it will be a few days before I get it because I had some other things on my order that are back ordered. In the mean time I would like to get a couple of extra batteries for the red dot. Can someone tell me the battery size? Thank you.
The C2030 battery is the most common but... you need to look at the specs page or user manual for your sight, it should be avaialble on line
Quote from: BDS on August 29, 2012, 10:27:59 PM
The C2030 battery is the most common but... you need to look at the specs page or user manual for your sight, it should be avaialble on line
mine uses 2032.its a tasco pdp3
Quote from: plasticclassic on August 29, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
I have been thinking about getting a red dot for a while now. After reading the reviews here I ordered one from PA but it will be a few days before I get it because I had some other things on my order that are back ordered. In the mean time I would like to get a couple of extra batteries for the red dot. Can someone tell me the battery size? Thank you.
this one uses 3V CR1620 lithium battery.right in the description
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/1x34mm_ITA_Combat_Red_Green_Dot_Sight_1_2_MOA_30mm_Tube_Quick_Detach_Low_Weaver_Picatinny_Mount/3431 (http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/1x34mm_ITA_Combat_Red_Green_Dot_Sight_1_2_MOA_30mm_Tube_Quick_Detach_Low_Weaver_Picatinny_Mount/3431)
Quote from: bradpsu on July 25, 2012, 11:51:25 PM
*******, since I posted the link to Amazon my scope went up ten bucks! They must have known we were talking about it.....Bastards!
prices vary day to day on amazon. I notice monday all prices seem to be the highest. jtlyk
Ah, I should have read the description closer, at least I'll know I'm ordering the right one now. Thank you.