YEEEEES!!!! :-*
I just installed a steel breech on my new 1377 and put on a BSA red dot and couldn't be happier. The grouping below was from ten yards rested and there's a pic of my "indoor range" too. It's 30' the way it's set up now, but if I sit with my back against the wall I can get 13 yards. Thanks guys for tips along the way and thank you Ed for help with the breech. :-* You might need to clean out your mailbox. :D
HOSPs and Chippers beware!!!!!
I think my wife will really like shooting it too, but I MUST not let her try to commandeer it. ;D
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/100_0759.jpg)
The "range". The flash made it look much darker then it was.
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The results: 10 shot at ten yards, CPHP 7.9 (one flyer in the 6 ring, rushed my shot from excitement) :(
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/100_0764.jpg)
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Phase two will be the "holy grail of plastic pump arms", solid roll and pump arm pins and a 12" barrel. A TKO when funds become available. You guys have corrupted me. ;D
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/100_0772.jpg)
That's an excellent grouping!
I posted this in the other thread but I really like the BSA. Once dialed in they are awesome.
As for the TKO I don't think any guns I own from now on will be without one. It makes a huge difference.
Everyone says to knock the roll pins out from right to left on the pump arm and the front roll pin. When I did mine, I put the pin punch in the holes to see if I had the roll pin centered.
Thanks guys, and good tips mudduck.
I got wife-al approval for all the parts (early Bday presents so she doesn't have to get me anything), except for the 12" barrel. I'm sure she will shoot it as is tonight, but when that barrel arrives..... I need a plan.
* See, I held off from saying she would notice the extra 2" :-X
WHAT barrel lol
Good on ya Tater :-* I'm glad you got it together and enjoying the pistol. When are you starting the next one ;D
Good group Tater... be carefuly with "flying pellets"!(I make a hole in mi living room :D :D :D)
Real nice build, Tater. You will be a force to be reckoned with if you start entering the monthly target competitions.
Thanks guys.
@ Earl - It's the stock barrel on it now. A 12" is coming at some point soon (I hope).
@Ruster - Hehe, it's happened here to (loose scope on a springer).
My wife tried it tonight too and did really well.
nice shooting! :-*
comps? ???
glad you got it together!
no problem with the help thats what we are here for to learn.closed mouths dont get fed! ;)
funny you mentioned cleaning out my mailbox i was at 96 pages got it down to 62 it took over a week to get that much done.thats just the in box
its going to take until next year to get everything cleared
Nice shootin Tater :-* Be very carefull ,You will be an Addict like the rest of us!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 29, 2012, 02:38:01 AM
Nice shootin Tater :-* Be very carefull ,You will be an Addict like the rest of us!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
To late. :(
The Crosmaina bug, it hurts the wallet.
And it gooooos so deep till ther is nothing left. you will be standing in line at the blood bank, saying part parts ;D ;D ;D ;D
Glad to see everything worked out and a nice shooter emerged :-*
Glen
Great grouping,those Chippers are going to take you of there Christmas card list :)
Finally! :D
You are on your way to Crosmania :-*
I really appreciate all of the tips and answers to my noob questions from everyone while getting this far. :-*
It's gonna be a loooong winter waiting to be able to leave the back door open for hosp and chippers.
i leave the back door open even in the winter.i get most of my dispatching done during this time.no leaves on the trees to hide the target tree rats are more desperate for food so they are taking bigger chances
i have yet to see a rabbit but im usually inside by the time the sun goes down and that seems to be the time they come out
Quote from: 1377x on October 29, 2012, 09:36:09 PM
i leave the back door open even in the winter.i get most of my dispatching done during this time.no leaves on the trees to hide the target tree rats are more desperate for food so they are taking bigger chances
i have yet to see a rabbit but im usually inside by the time the sun goes down and that seems to be the time they come out
I have squirrels here but can't shoot the (townhouse). I can really only get hosps and chipmunks and the chippers are gone until spring. I can only shoot the hosps as they land on the porch or grass in back and this summer they finally caught on that the open door means trouble. I can still get them but I have to leave the door open for a half hour sometimes.
Looking good tater I love the red dot you installed very nice shooting soon you will be useing a dime to cover that group.
Mike
Quote from: Crosshairs on October 31, 2012, 01:58:08 PM
Looking good tater I love the red dot you installed very nice shooting soon you will be useing a dime to cover that group.
Mike
Thanks Crosshairs, after some practice and some new glasses I hope to.
I still hope to break it in on a hosp before it snows too.
Update:
I attempted a trigger tune today and after struggles (lost the ball, didn't have the right tools/grease) I finally finished and put it back together. This included polishing trigger and sear, adding a nylon washer to each side of the trigger and sear pins, white lithium grease on contact points and a .22 shell inside a lighter spring.
I closed it up and pumped it and it worked....for one shot. Now, the trigger stayed depressed and won't reset unless I push in the safety on and then back to off. Anyone know what could cause this? I'll post a pic soon.
the washers are to thick!!!
and the side plate is too tight
try loosening the side plate and see if it makes a difference
try a metal washer on one side and a nylon on the other with the side plate tightened
I had the same promble , took my nylon washers and sanded them down some ! What are you calling hosps and chippers?
There was a metal washer already under the trigger pivot pin but I replaced it with a nylon on each side so I will change that. The metal washer that was there was not flat at all and bent like a Pringle.
I don't know for sure but I think it's called a spring washer , to keep side presure on the trigger
Double post.
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/trigger.jpg)
Does the metal washer need to be flattened (I assume) or is it supposed to be bent?
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on November 11, 2012, 03:49:46 AM
I don't know for sure but I think it's called a spring washer , to keep side presure on the trigger
wow is that a .22 magnum casing for the trigger spring guide ???
Quote from: 1377x on November 11, 2012, 05:40:01 AM
wow is that a .22 magnum casing for the trigger spring guide ???
Yes, it's 1 1/16".
OK, I loosened the screws a bit and it seems to work fine except the trigger doesn't "reset" until you cock it. Otherwise, it just stays depressed.
Tater leave the metal washer out and just use the plastic washers. Loosen the front cover screw just until the trigger works freely. Polish the 22 mag case. You need to hold both ends of the trigger spring and twist it a little to open the spring a little so it will side freely on the 22mag case.
pc
Quote from: PC77 on November 11, 2012, 08:00:08 AM
Tater leave the metal washer out and just use the plastic washers. Loosen the front cover screw just until the trigger works freely. Polish the 22 mag case. You need to hold both ends of the trigger spring and twist it a little to open the spring a little so it will side freely on the 22mag case.
pc
It's back together now with 4 plastic washers (one on each side of trigger and sear). The spring slides freely on the .22 mag case except for the rim.
Yes!!! It seems to work fine now and is much smoother. I might have rubbed some of the white lithium off of the contact points so I might have to redo that but it will require extensive testing tomorrow. ;) ;)
I'd like to REALLY thank PC77 and Ed for help with parts and answering my flood of PM's. :-* :-* :-*
Tater if you want to be really slick drill a small devit on the sear were it meets the trigger and JB weld one of those extra safety balls i sent you. :-* Congrats on the trigger work you done good.
pc
Quote from: PC77 on November 11, 2012, 08:22:40 AM
Tater if you want to be really slick drill a small devit on the sear were it meets the trigger and JB weld one of those extra safety balls i sent you. :-* Congrats on the trigger work you done good.
pc
:D That might be pushing it at my skill level. ;D I had one &#^%*# of a time getting the safety spring and ball back in. I will have nightmares about that steel ball tonight.
Quote from: Tater on November 11, 2012, 08:27:23 AM
:D That might be pushing it at my skill level. ;D I had one &#^%*# of a time getting the safety spring and ball back in. I will have nightmares about that steel ball tonight.
;D ;D
hey at least your honest ;D
Too honest maybe. :D
Tater,
I find it much easier to remove the whole trigger assembly first, it removes the nightmare of losing the safety ball and spring (as it is no longer under pressure), and re-assembly is a breeze.
Far easier in the long run mate.
Good call Storsy. I don't know how to do that but I'll look it up next time.
QuoteGood call Storsy. I don't know how to do that but I'll look it up next time.
Tater,
Storsy is right. Take the trigger frame off of the main tube by removing the front and rear trigger frame screws. Keep the trigger frame upright and you will see the safety spring sticking up out of the trigger frame. Pull it out and turn the frame over while holding your hand under the slot that you pulled the spring out of. If the safety ball doesn't fall out into your hand, there is a dab of lube holding it in place. Now there is no pressure on the ball to spring it across the room when you take the cover off. When you finish your trigger work, put the cover back on and drop the ball and spring back into place before installing the frame back onto the tube. If you put a dab of grease on the ball and always take the frame off of the tube BEFORE taking the cover off and put the cover back on BEFORE installing the frame back onto the tube, you will never have to look for that ball and/or spring again.
About your trigger, when you are fitting the washers, leave the spring washer out and put the trigger, trigger pivot pin and washers in the frame WITH NOTHING ELSE in there. Tighten the cover down with all of the screws and see if the trigger will flop forwards and backwards just by tilting the frame back and forth. You will probably need to sand one or both washers down a little at a time until the trigger still has no sideways play but will swing through its arc freely. Do the same for your sear, sear pivot pin, and washers AGAIN, WITH NOTHING ELSE IN THE FRAME and when you get it back together, it will reset cleanly even with the lightest of sear springs. Good luck with it.
Cheers,
Quote from: Tater on November 11, 2012, 03:47:28 AM
There was a metal washer already under the trigger pivot pin but I replaced it with a nylon on each side so I will change that. The metal washer that was there was not flat at all and bent like a Pringle.
Yup, that curved washer provides tension without binding. There needs to be a little play in the trigger and sear to work properly. RC
Thanks JEBert and RC. I already have it back together with ll plastic washer. It seems fine, but I haven't tested it with the red dot on at targets. If it doesn't seem right I'll swap in the metal washer.
I ended up crazy glueing the ball to the the safety spring. I'm putting felyt on the pump arm too.
Tater:
Which model BSA Red Dot are you using. I want one.
Thanks
Quote from: Sir William on November 11, 2012, 06:57:31 PM
Tater:
Which model BSA Red Dot are you using. I want one.
Thanks
I'm using this one from Cabelas: https://www.cabelas.com/product/BSA174-22-Red-Dot-Riflescope/752253.uts (https://www.cabelas.com/product/BSA174-22-Red-Dot-Riflescope/752253.uts)
They go on sale at times so keep an eye out, especially with black Friday coming up.
I really like it, but if you can afford one with a smaller dot (3 MOA instead of 5), I'd definitely go with that instead. Mine was $29.99 on sale I believe.
Quote from: Tater on November 11, 2012, 03:47:28 AM
There was a metal washer already under the trigger pivot pin but I replaced it with a nylon on each side so I will change that. The metal washer that was there was not flat at all and bent like a Pringle.
Tater: that "metal washer" is supposed to be convoluted or dimpled, it's a spring washer made to put tension against the trigger. You need VERY THIN washer inside that trigger assy as 1377X said, otherwise you are clam-shelling the assy under tension and the trigger and sear can't move freely.
Thanks BDS, it is all worked out....for now.