Re the eBay auction for the alloy pistol grips.
I thought it worth a shot and have bought some, maybe they will be good or maybe bad (I got a second chance offer)
While talking to the seller we discussed an alloy grip frame. Now he has made me one so I will post up here with details when both parts arrive.
Seeing as no one else is making any grip frames I don't mind taking one for the boys ;) - Nothing ventured etc...
Gary
Wow he turned around a grip frame that quickly???
Quote from: droid on October 09, 2012, 07:16:45 PM
Re the eBay auction for the alloy pistol grips.
I thought it worth a shot and have bought some, maybe they will be good or maybe bad (I got a second chance offer)
While talking to the seller we discussed an alloy grip frame. Now he has made me one so I will post up here with details when both parts arrive.
Seeing as no one else is making any grip frames I don't mind taking one for the boys ;) - Nothing ventured etc...
Gary
You are a good man Gary, so, I will start the collection now for your reimbursement, I'm in for the first $1 and expect we can get 40 / 50 others to pony-up a $1 each!? :D
Don't handle those grips with acetone on your hands! :D ;D
You mean they really WEREN'T spray painted? ??? ??? ???
Gary,
Now that was just plain mean..... ;) ;) ;) :o :o :o
You was just messin' with us, weren't you. ??? ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: 0351_Vet on October 09, 2012, 07:56:25 PM
Gary,
Now that was just plain mean..... ;) ;) ;) :o :o :o
You was just messin' with us, weren't you. ??? ;D ;D ;D
Nah, dead serious Walt.
Got to take a chance on this one, may be a pile of.. but may be a runner too.
Gary
Was it these Gary? :) If these are Solid Alum, then they can be "POLISHED" :-* :-* "BAAH_LING"
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Grips-for-crosman-1377-2240-and-others-custom-aluminum-/00/s/OTIwWDEyNTU=/$(KGrHqF,!qEFBfVo4qV4BQ,v4,0Cng~~60_12.JPG)
Yup, those are the ones
Gary
you're a brave soul .... :)
do you think there is any tin in them?
Gary, Did cast these? ??? ???
I bet you are going to chrome them. ;) ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: eric on October 10, 2012, 12:51:38 AM
you're a brave soul .... :)
Yes eric, I know I am taking a flyer and maybe being brave but due to the lack of available supply of alternate grip frames I felt if I didn't take a gamble I'd never get anything new.
So to get the grip frame I had to have the grips really. Anyway for the delivered price of £70 ($100) for the grips and prototype frame is not too bad :)
If they are rubbish at least I tried.
Gary
Quote from: droid on October 10, 2012, 09:24:50 AM
Yes eric, I know I am taking a flyer and maybe being brave but due to the lack of available supply of alternate grip frames I felt if I didn't take a gamble I'd never get anything new.
So to get the grip frame I had to have the grips really. Anyway for the delivered price of £70 ($100) for the grips and prototype frame is not too bad :)
If they are rubbish at least I tried.
Gary
Wow Gary, You did take one for the team. :-* But, just think, if he does truly cast the frame, how cool is that going to be.
Can you say BLING to that. ;) ;) ;) :-* :-* :-*
He said the grip frame will be done by mid next week and that they will be $50 us ... yes I also went out on a limb and have a set of grips coming ....
Quote from: KevinP on October 11, 2012, 11:08:55 AM
He said the grip frame will be done by mid next week and that they will be $50 us ... yes I also went out on a limb and have a set of grips coming ....
:-* :-*
What we boys do for our guns
Gary
Quote from: droid on October 11, 2012, 11:19:41 AM
:-* :-*
What we boys do for our guns
Gary
:-* :-* :-*
Gary & Kevin: You guys will be remembered as... a) true trail-blazers or b) the point-men on the bomb squad :D
I'm voting for trail-blazers until otherwise corrected :-*
Quote from: BDS on October 11, 2012, 06:37:28 PM
Gary & Kevin: You guys will be remembered as... a) true trail-blazers or b) the point-men on the bomb squad :D
I'm voting for trail-blazers until otherwise corrected :-*
;D ;D well Gary chimed in first, so , he can be the point man, it's only fair.... I will of course back him up ......
Ya, be very interesting to see them with a better photo. Only thing that I was thinking is the grips will be cold in the winter!
that won`t be an issue on a co2 gun.......... :P
It wont be an issue in the UK either it's always bloody freezing (or raining)
But we are all well hard over here, T shirts and vests only in the snow ;)
Gary
Oh, double 'ard southerner eh? :D
Nah, southerners are well soft, from the Midlands me, where men are men and on the whole so are the women ;)
Gary
:D ;D ;D ;D
"where men are men", and the sheep are scared! ;)
Quote from: BDS on October 12, 2012, 02:34:02 PM
:D ;D ;D ;D
"where men are men", and the sheep are scared! ;)
That will be Wales ;) Plenty of nervous sheep there.
Over here the Southerners are big Jessies, Northerners rough as owt. Us in the midlands are just right. The Scots just want to leave the UK so I ignore them ;)
Gary
What will be the advantages of this cast frame over Crosman's cast frame?
I wish someone would make a stainless one off a CNC machine...stainless cover with the three hole design...mounting points for the P-rod guts....maybe square off the trigger guard a little...slap a bottom weaver rail on the front. Might as well add a cup holder while we're at it...
Quote from: droid on October 12, 2012, 02:39:45 PM
That will be Wales ;) Plenty of nervous sheep there.
Over here the Southerners are big Jessies, Northerners rough as owt. Us in the midlands are just right. The Scots just want to leave the UK so I ignore them ;)
Gary
:D ;D Ya, the Scots... god love e'm, they just can't let old William Wallace lay in peace ;)
Fronzdan, I am just taking a flyer on this that's all. No real advantage at this point other than potentially a better made frame or at least potentially a better material content.
If I have a chance of a better quality frame I will take a risk. Me I really want a brass one, then I can get it chromed if required, and if the alloy one is ok then I will be using this as a template and will be looking at getting a modded one made over here in the UK.
Anyway, a quick update from the seller. Frame is nearly done and he is sending me some photos of the work in progress, he hope to be able to ship it out on Monday, as soon as I get the pics I will post them up.
Gary
wow!
this is going to be interesting! :o :)
Quote from: 1377x on October 13, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
wow!
this is going to be interesting! :o :)
Yes Ed, either interesting or embarrassing ;)
Gary
Quote from: BDS on October 12, 2012, 06:53:22 PM
:D ;D Ya, the Scots... god love e'm, they just can't let old William Wallace lay in peace ;)
As a Johnstone I don't know how to take this. ???
As a Kentuckian though, those sound like fighting words to me! :P ;)
Quote from: cmj21973 on October 13, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
As a Johnstone I don't know how to take this. ???
As a Kentuckian though, those sound like fighting words to me! :P ;)
Don't mess with A Scot Brian, they wear kilts and no shorts underneath in cold weather. Well tough ;)
Gary
Well, I have just had some photos of the frame and grips, nearly finished.
I will post them up a bit later, just at the airport at the moment.
They don't look too bad, minor bits I can tidy up but other than that I like them.
Gary
Am back home now so here they are, Brian says still work to do before he ships them tomorrow:
(http://www.droid.co.uk/new1.jpg)
(http://www.droid.co.uk/new2.jpg)
(http://www.droid.co.uk/new3.jpg)
(http://www.droid.co.uk/new4.jpg)
Gary
amazing!!
look to be authentic
at first i was thinking it was aluminum poured over an existing parts.now i am convinced they are actually what theyre said to be
the dark spots must be some kind of contamination
i have seen ldc's with the same type of black marks look to the left of of the marker on the bottom of the core it is the black mark and other discolorations through the whole thing ..pretty cool ldc if you ask me
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/DSC_0071_zps3866014d.jpg)
Gary, that's going to look Bitchen. :-* I think I would Polish the g.rips and the frame. :-* :-*
droid
maybe you can suggest to the grip maker to use the marauder pistol grips to cast off of
they would probably be easier to polish
Quote from: 1377x on October 14, 2012, 05:43:45 PM
droid
maybe you can suggest to the grip maker to use the marauder pistol grips to cast off of
they would probably be easier to polish
May be worth a mention to him Ed. I have a set he can use if he has none, Only thing with them is there is less detail, these just look stock. If they are indeed ok when they arrive it would be nice to have some target ones done too. Not counting my chickens just yet though.
Walt, yes there looks to be plenty for me to play with there. If the frame is as good as it looks I will be very pleased. Should look well on my shiny gun when polished
Gary
Quote from: 1377x on October 14, 2012, 05:43:45 PM
droid
maybe you can suggest to the grip maker to use the marauder pistol grips to cast off of
they would probably be easier to polish
+1 to that!
What do the inside of the grips look like? Are they flat/solid I assume?
nice to see there was nothing to worry about :-[ :P you did good :-* ;) :)
Quote from: eric on October 14, 2012, 06:12:15 PM
nice to see there was nothing to worry about :-[ :P you did good :-* ;) :)
+1 :-*
Well done Gary and... aluminum can also be chrome plated, it just takes a good cleaning and etching prior to plating. Likewise, it can be brass plated or obviously anodized in a dozen diff colors :-*
Well it took him a week to ship them to me .... shipped today so ebay says ....
He is about 4 hrs from me... we will see ....
Pros ... they are cast aluminum ....
cons ... everything ...
these are crap, the pic he posted don't do them justice, they are much worse ... pic to follow ...
crap
more
???
Save your $$$$
Quote from: chongman on October 11, 2012, 06:56:53 PM
Ya, be very interesting to see them with a better photo. Only thing that I was thinking is the grips will be cold in the winter!
DO NOT lick them in the winter time. ;)
Good thing nobody stepped in it.
Quote from: Davio on October 20, 2012, 12:18:29 AM
DO NOT lick them in the winter time. ;)
...
Oh, go ahead. I triple dog dare you ;)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgCbcT8eEU#]A Christmas Story - Tongue Stuck to Pole[/url]
Quote from: KevinP on October 19, 2012, 11:42:12 PM
Save your $$$$
Wow. You also got the real fake wood grain and air bubbles in the aluminum. What a find. Thanks for the warning.
Bummer! But nothing ventured....ahhh you don't want to hear that :D
Dang, poorly done I'd say. Oh well, toss them in the box on the bottom shelf!
:( Hope you didn't pay to muck for those
even so they are still unique
they would look better if the p-rod grips were used
All in all not too bad.
I agree with 1377x, got to use good grips to make a mold from in order to cast good metal/plastic ones.
Quote from: breakfastchef on October 20, 2012, 02:58:10 AM
Wow. You also got the real fake wood grain and air bubbles in the aluminum. What a find. Thanks for the warning.
Call them "distressed" and double the price. :-* Call them "distressed relics" and the sky is the limit.
Quote from: arkmaker on October 20, 2012, 03:05:28 AM
Bummer! But nothing ventured....ahhh you don't want to hear that :D
Well at least you (or should that be we) tried.
The photos of mine do seem better but I always knew I was taking a flyer, so will just wait for mine to arrive.
I must say I have purchased worse wooden grips than that before now.
Gary
This set is really pitiful .... not only do they look bad, they don't fit the frame well ...
Hope yours come out better .... :-*
Quote from: KevinP on October 20, 2012, 11:52:19 AM
This set is really pitiful .... not only do they look bad, they don't fit the frame well ...
Hope yours come out better .... :-*
did you have to use a spacer between the grip and frame for so the grip screw wont travel to far
can we see a pic with them attached to the frame?
No spacer needed ...
nt
nt
To bad about that void or a little dremel work could maybe take out the texture on the grips and then grind down the frame to match. After that... polish, polish polish. A lot of time needed though maybe saveable?
I had the same thought, problem is there is a void on both sides and a crack, you can see inside the frame.
how would one fix that ? maybe I will hang them from a tree and see what a CPHP will do to them .....
Why would somebody sell something like that? I would be ashamed to have someone procure that kind of product from me.
Quote from: crossliner on October 20, 2012, 01:57:28 PM
Why would somebody sell something like that? I would be ashamed to have someone procure that kind of product from me.
Indeed .... ???
I wonder what his seconds look like , I can't believe anyone would sell something made so poorly :o
did you buy them off e-bay. if so you can customer support and file a not as described case on them. Maybe get your money back
Yes, if the seller does not comply you must file SNAD with eBay.
I certainly will if mine are the same.
Gary
a poorly made product can tarnish the sellers perfect score thats to bad .
a little more time and effort could make a nicer product.the concept is cool enough
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 20, 2012, 03:08:50 PM
did you buy them off e-bay. if so you can customer support and file a not as described case on them. Maybe get your money back
True, but before doing that, you should contact the seller to let him know you are not pleased and ask for a full refund. If he does go along with all that, then he should get a glowingly positive rating from you on his ethical handling of the transaction. He'll want to keep from getting slammed from your feedback, I'll just bet.
If he doesn't do the right thing, then blast him good on the feedback, go to plan B (and use them grips to hammer dog crap.) ;D
I have been buying and selling on ebay since 1999 ... I know what to do.... :-*
I will send him a really nice email and see what he does .... :)
Quote from: KevinP on October 21, 2012, 03:47:47 AM
I have been buying and selling on ebay since 1999 ... I know what to do.... :-*
I will send him a really nice email and see what he does .... :)
Always the best way, that's what I always do. Nothing worse than an irate/rude customer when I am always happy to help anyway.
Gary
Quote from: droid on October 21, 2012, 09:58:28 AM
Always the best way, that's what I always do. Nothing worse than an irate/rude customer when I am always happy to help anyway.
Gary
Well we we see how he handles this ....
Hi Brian, I am surprised by your excellent feedback that you would ship these grips out. I find them to be of very poor quality. I am asking you to refund the $34.76 back into my paypal account. When you do I will send them back to you and pay for the return shipping. Thank you for your consideration on this problem. Kevin
Dang, I almost teared up when I saw that price :(
That 35 bucks will buy a really nice cigar.
Quote from: mr007s on October 21, 2012, 07:10:54 PM
That 35 bucks will buy a really nice cigar.
Havana!!!
Oh well, he didn't get back to me ..... so I sent him this ....
"your non response speaks for itself, to bad, you have the potential for a great product here ..."
Quote from: KevinP on October 24, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
Oh well, he didn't get back to me ..... so I sent him this ....
"your non response speaks for itself, to bad, you have the potential for a great product here ..."
how many days have passed?
he has an auction ending tomorrow or the day after tomorrow
a response may come then
Quote from: 1377x on October 24, 2012, 10:05:34 PM
how many days have passed?
he has an auction ending tomorrow or the day after tomorrow
a response may come then
I rather doubt it .... he has had plenty of time .... his 100% feedback will end soon ......
Quote from: KevinP on October 24, 2012, 10:53:57 PM
I rather doubt it .... he has had plenty of time .... his 100% feedback will end soon ......
it will still be a 100% if he gives you a full refund
i had a problem with a 100%'r they wouldn't answer my messages so i started a dispute with ebay.they responded then gave me money back and their record stayed flawless regardless of my negative feedback which was changed by ebay to positive because of the refund.i told them if they wanted their merchandise back they was going to have to send a pre-paid shipper,they responded get your stuff from somewhere else and keep what we sent you by mistake.which wasnt a mistake it is straight up fraud.they show a pic and description of one thing and send you an inferior no name product.they are still operating the same way.i guess ebay really doesnt care whats going on if they did they would make them change the description and picture to the actual product.i try to order from 100%'rs because they have the highest rating available but what you have to do is actually read the reviews.like with this place positive feedback was left but the reviews said more than once not as described money refunded,fast shipping wrong product refund issued
Like Ed says: just open a SNAD dispute via eBay. Or quicker still do it via PayPal.
Gary
BTW just had an email from the seller askin what I thought of the grips.
Well they haven't arrived yet.
Quote from: droid on October 24, 2012, 11:43:30 PM
Like Ed says: just open a SNAD dispute via eBay. Or quicker still do it via PayPal.
Gary
BTW just had an email from the seller askin what I thought of the grips.
Well they haven't arrived yet.
gonna wait till you get yours, see what you think .... he hasn't responded anyway .... I have time ..... :-*
"it will still be a 100% if he gives you a full refund"
I asked for a refund .. he has not responded, Doesn't apply .... ...... he shipped what he said he would so paypal dispute will not work ether ...
no big deal .... he zapped me with poor quality .... I most likely will zap him back with bad feedback .... time will tell ....
If you need to zap, zap really good.
I posted this before in another thread but here it is again http://toolhaus.org/ (http://toolhaus.org/) enter the seller id and you can see all about them, stuff ebay won't show you. Sometimes it won't work if you have a window/tab open with ebay at the same time. I check every seller, regardless of feedback rating before buying.
Quote from: chongman on October 25, 2012, 01:37:27 AM
If you need to zap, zap really good.
I posted this before in another thread but here it is again http://toolhaus.org/ (http://toolhaus.org/) enter the seller id and you can see all about them, stuff ebay won't show you. Sometimes it won't work if you have a window/tab open with ebay at the same time. I check every seller, regardless of feedback rating before buying.
That's cool chongman. I used it to check myself! :) Pissed me off all over again, though because of an auction I won on Dec. 24th 2003 where nobody bid and I got a super great win, then the ahole did not want to sell / send it to me. ;) There are special places (and job assignments) in hell for pieces of work like that!
Well my grips and frame have arrived. Complete with trigger and safety etc.. already fitted ready to go. I just screwed the straight on to a spare gun for the photo.
I suppose they are pretty much as I was expecting really, there are areas that could do with a bit of a tidy but without dis-assembly they look ok.
(http://www.droid.co.uk/gl1.jpg)
(http://www.droid.co.uk/gl2.jpg)
(http://www.droid.co.uk/gl3.jpg)
(http://www.droid.co.uk/gl4.jpg)
I will pull it apart later
Gary
I think it looks good Droid. I really like the looks of that gun.
i want to see the parts on the don c set up
Looks better that what I got :-* 4 you ... oh he sent me this ...
I sent you a message back about a week ago I guess it just didn't go through or something I said I would be happy to refund u but you need to send back and when I receive it I will refund you and what don't you like about it everyone else has loved it?
funny, no one has left him feedback on them ....
Quote from: 1377x on October 25, 2012, 08:38:31 PM
i want to see the parts on the don c set up
I didn't want to scratch my shiny gun ;)
Will have a go tomorrow
Gary
Quote from: droid on October 25, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
I didn't want to scratch my shiny gun ;)
Will have a go tomorrow
Gary
the aluminum parts are rough huh?
KevinP You going to send them back ??? You may not get your money back if you don't go thru Pay Pal!
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 25, 2012, 10:59:04 PM
KevinP You going to send them back ??? You may not get your money back if you don't go thru Pay Pal!
as long as he has the proof he sent them back he will get his refund
which means the best bet is to ship them signature required
The whole thing,grips and frame look ok from what I see. If it was me, I would have put some work into the grips to make them special instead of a cast of stock Crosman style.
yepper!
the whole assembly could use some work
Quote from: chongman on October 25, 2012, 11:28:29 PM
The whole thing,grips and frame look ok from what I see. If it was me, I would have put some work into the grips to make them special instead of a cast of stock Crosman style.
Crosman might just C&D (cease and desist) his ass for selling such a blatant direct copy. ;D
It could happen :D
I know some companies are very aggressive when it comes to things like this, one in particular is Red Bull.
Looks a little better than what Kevin got. Does not look like it has the void on the grip. Start buffing 'em up!!
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 25, 2012, 10:59:04 PM
KevinP You going to send them back ??? You may not get your money back if you don't go thru Pay Pal!
I am aware of that .. :-*
Quote from: 1377x on October 25, 2012, 08:38:31 PM
i want to see the parts on the don c set up
Just give one a quick buff Ed:
(http://www.droid.co.uk/ed.jpg)
Gary
that actually looks pretty good! 8)
how do the grips feel in your hand?
Quote from: 1377x on October 26, 2012, 05:02:39 PM
that actually looks pretty good! 8)
how do the grips feel in your hand?
Considering I literally spent two minutes giving them quick shine they feel quite strange in a nice way, sort of a solid feel.
Gary
Looks like your going to be able to turn them into something nice. Maybe all polished up and spray the checkered area with something like bedliner or whatever is the same type stuff in the UK :-*
thats the same thing i was thinking
get some of that carbon fiber sticker stuff
it comes in a variety of colors.just ordered some myself .dont know what im going to do with it until it gets to me
Funnily enough Ed. I have had a roll delivered today of the sticky carbon fibre.
But I have been too busy messing with one of my SSPs, may have a bash carboning the grip set over the weekend. .
Gary
funny ainit
cant wait to get my carbon fiber sticker
im going to do my grips,barrel and ldc
if its not to much to work with then ill do my tube in silver cfw and breech
hopefully it comes out how i think its going to
i can tint automobile windows easy enough this shouldnt be to much harder
Harder than it looks covering the standard grips. I made a right pigs ear of it :-[
Gary
At least when you peel it back off lighter fluid or goo ba gone takes the sticky stuff off ;D
Quote from: droid on October 28, 2012, 09:33:44 PM
Harder than it looks covering the standard grips. I made a right pigs ear of it :-[
Gary
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Quote from: droid on October 28, 2012, 09:33:44 PM
Harder than it looks covering the standard grips. I made a right pigs ear of it :-[
Gary
did you heat it up first?
i read on the site i got the carbon fiber wrap from heating it up makes it more flexible and easier to work with as the glue is workable until it cools.
i have done custom automobile electronic entertainment equipment installation some of it working with covering rounded edges with vinyl,like wrapping tv's,custom consoles, speaker cabinets,etc.
Ya, some heat does the trick, work from the center out. I've used a hair blow dryer, work slowly and you may want to make relief cuts along the outsides edges to help it to lay down.
the relief cuts definitely help
Hi Guys
I may be able to help in the alloy grip department.A close friend of mine is a bloke called Pete Hogan.He owns Milbro pro shot uk.A foundry that makes alloy and bronze catapults.I will have a word with him see if he can produce some grips.His casting work is awsome.
For any of you lads interested,I have spoken to Pete Hogan.Going to take my grips to his foundry Monday.He will see what can be done.Also ask him if he could produce brass..Alloy even bronze frames etc.
Quote from: Spanky on November 09, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
For any of you lads interested,I have spoken to Pete Hogan.Going to take my grips to his foundry Monday.He will see what can be done.Also ask him if he could produce brass..Alloy even bronze frames etc.
Wicked :-*
Let me know how you go on.
Gary
Hi Gary
Will be in touch Monday as soon as i get back from the foundry.
there is definitely some interest in this type of part! :-*
it will great to hear what you have to say come monday
brass or bronze frame sounds nice
ped
Man a brass frame! That thing would realy shine
The more the merrier 8)
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,6127.60.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,6127.60.html)
Ugh Traitor,
Just kidding. interesting concept , but cold look cold feel.
+1 to that, I don't get it with the alum grips. IMO they still look like a cheap-o rattle can of aluminum paint sprayed on the stock grips.
Not to mention the Aluminum - Alzheimer connection. It is a neuro-toxin for crying out.. what was I saying? :o
It is much safer to handle if properly POWDER COATED !!! ;) ;D
Quote from: Davio on December 10, 2012, 11:43:02 PM
Not to mention the Aluminum - Alzheimer connection. It is a neuro-toxin for crying out.. what was I saying? :o
It is much safer to handle if properly POWDER COATED !!! ;) ;D
you sure like the powder coat dontcha?
Quote from: 1377x on December 11, 2012, 01:52:06 AM
you sure like the powder coat dontcha?
We should because it's super tough Mr. 13..Best regards.
Quote from: Iagent on December 10, 2012, 08:56:53 PM
Ugh Traitor,
Just kidding. interesting concept , but cold look cold feel.
Hi Rick, they feel quite sturdy though, not an unpleasant grip fee either.
Gary
Nice hat Santa! :D
Quote from: BDS on December 11, 2012, 02:17:26 PM
Nice hat Santa! :D
Nice innit :-*
Tis my santa droid
I was feeling festive this morning :)
Quote from: 1377x on December 11, 2012, 01:52:06 AM
you sure like the powder coat dontcha?
I tend to like anything that is so hard a cat can't scratch it. And that's what she said, too. ;D
Quote from: Davio on December 11, 2012, 09:37:23 PM
I tend to like anything that is so hard a cat can't scratch it. And that's what she said, too. ;D
;D ;D
sounds good!
powder coating is that hard huh? ???
Quote from: 1377x on December 12, 2012, 05:57:44 AM
;D ;D
sounds good!
powder coating is that hard huh? ???
Hard and cheap..2 grips, a barrel band and some flashlight stuff for just $4.76 (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
Quote from: droid on December 11, 2012, 02:22:04 PM
Nice innit :-*
Tis my santa droid
I was feeling festive this morning :)
love that new look LOL
Quote from: crossliner on December 12, 2012, 03:28:27 PM
Hard and cheap..2 grips, a barrel band and some flashlight stuff for just $4.76 (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
didnt you say your powder coating start flaking?
Quote from: 1377x on December 12, 2012, 07:02:54 PM
didnt you say your powder coating start flaking?
I guess I should wait for crossliner to respond, but I'll say that any flaking with powder coating would go to operator error from one or more of "
Piss poor preparation or product perpetuates piss poor powdercoating performance" .
Quote from: 1377x on December 12, 2012, 07:02:54 PM
didnt you say your powder coating start flaking?
No sir it was the previous airbrushed paint that is why I had my babies sandblasted then powdercoated. It is tough I hammered the inside portion and it did not chip off..The beadblasting process helped the powdercoating adhere more effectively. Best regards(http://forum.indoairgunner.com/images/smilies/senyum.gif)
thanks for the update!
everything have been changing so much and so fast its hard to up with people builds
good to know the powder coating is tough like armor
Yes and it is worth it. Mine is industrial grade done by this company..They now have a branch in my city lucky me (http://forum.philboxing.com/images/smilies/hat.gif)
http://www.philippinecompanies.com/companyprofile/289426/republic-powdercoat-corporation (http://www.philippinecompanies.com/companyprofile/289426/republic-powdercoat-corporation)
No imperfections so far w/ the powdercoat. I dug deep and got rid of the ugly casting marks/blowholes..The powdercoating's thick coat also helped achieve this look. Kind of like a hammered appearance per Mr. ChongMan. Best regards.
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Ooh that's nice !! :-*
Next level on a new project could be a black powdercoat with embedded coloured metal flakes and a high gloss finish :)
Quote from: crossliner on December 25, 2012, 03:22:13 AM
No imperfections so far w/ the powdercoat. I dug deep and got rid of the ugly casting marks/blowholes.
You can buy a body filler called Metalik made by Isopon that has ally particles in it so it conducts a charge and can be powder coated over. You can also get a very good chrome powder coat have a look here http://www.aerocoat.net/ (http://www.aerocoat.net/)
Quote from: Brutuz on December 26, 2012, 07:55:33 PM
Ooh that's nice !! :-*
Next level on a new project could be a black powdercoat with embedded coloured metal flakes and a high gloss finish :)
Thanks Boss Brutuz..I like solid colors and for our Crosman grips and I think matte looks better compared to a shiny finish but this is just my preference..They also have a dead black version as well as a sandpaper finish..There's just too many colors/textures to choose from and very cheap too. Like I have said for my 2 Crosman grips, barrel band and some flashlight tubes I paid $4.60 something and their facility is about 5 minutes away from me w/o traffic..Best regards.
Thanks for the heads up Mr. OOTF.
Quote from: crossliner on December 27, 2012, 12:08:15 PM
Thanks Boss Brutuz..I like solid colors and for our Crosman grips and I think matte looks better compared to a shiny finish but this is just my preference..They also have a dead black version as well as a sandpaper finish..There's just too many colors/textures to choose from and very cheap too. Like I have said for my 2 Crosman grips, barrel band and some flashlight tubes I paid $4.60 something and their facility is about 5 minutes away from me w/o traffic..Best regards.
Thanks for the heads up Mr. OOTF.
Did you know someone at the company that did the powdwer coating so cheap? I just emailed two local places, but it's hard to believe most would do parts that small for that cheap.
I hope I'm pleasantly surprised when they reply.
Not really Mr. Tater but they are a new branch so they take all comers. Also since I do construction work at times I pointed my glass and aluminum suppliers to them so the 2 parties are more than happy..My airgun buddy was also surprised when he had his aluminum pcp frame powdercoated for the same price as I paid. To have a bike frame powdercoated it actually costs almost the same. Best regards.
i bet most stuff like that is cheaper there
huh crossliner ???
its not like the US
i know a guy from over there in crossliners area he says when he retires he is going back there because everthing is cheaper than the US
the next time i talk to the guy i will ask him where his compound is located he told me but i forgot
It is Mr. 13 but some imported items particularly guns are very expensive...But this one is actually cheap already w/ a discount of 20% but you need to add $119 for the shipping and one time lifetime registration..Currently we have a GUN BAN up to June so firearms including airguns, airsoft guns and knives are to be kept at home. I cannot buy this one yet as even the transport of any firearm related item is not allowed and this 1 is about an hour and a half plane's ride away from me. I will be buying the AA S500 I already have the funds..I am in Davao City Philippines..Plenty of foreigners particularly South Koreans. Best regards.
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/6000188/SALE%3A+Air+Gun+Air+Arms%2C+20%25+OFF (http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/6000188/SALE%3A+Air+Gun+Air+Arms%2C+20%25+OFF)
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That is so sweet :-*
Yes this English pcp is a fine piece of equipment Mr. Droid and at this price it's a steal. I don't mean to downgrade the Marauder ( it's $1,450 here) but with the discounted price the AA is cheaper. Also Marauders are often snobbed here they get no love. Best regards.
to be honest i would choose the aa over a marauder myself
but $1600 for a gun that costs $600 here i guess thats still better because a marauder can be had for $350 vs $1,450 the aa is a better deal
Quote from: crossliner on January 23, 2013, 10:55:21 AM
Not really Mr. Tater but they are a new branch so they take all comers. Also since I do construction work at times I pointed my glass and aluminum suppliers to them so the 2 parties are more than happy..My airgun buddy was also surprised when he had his aluminum pcp frame powdercoated for the same price as I paid. To have a bike frame powdercoated it actually costs almost the same. Best regards.
Well it looks like you are getting a heck of a deal. One of the Powder Coat places I emailed said it was a $50 minimum per color. :o If he can put them in with another job he can give me a better price depending on the prep work required.
Quote from: crossliner on December 27, 2012, 12:08:15 PM
. Like I have said for my 2 Crosman grips, barrel band and some flashlight tubes I paid $4.60 something and their facility is about 5 minutes away from me w/o traffic..Best regards.
You are getting a steal of a deal. Anyone here in the states with any brain at all wouldn't turn on the baking oven for $4.60. Hell, I wouldn't blow off and disassemble my rig for $4.60.
So what am I saying? I do and will continue to pay extra for US made whenever possible. I'd really hate to mess up my karma and come back as a third world exploited citizen.
I was surprised myself gents...Hard to believe but here is a thread as proof of what I am saying. The figures given are in Philippine currency as you can see. No offense but this is not just a small time home brew powdercoating process it is being done by a very big company called Republic Powdercoating Corporation w/c happens to be the biggest in the Philippines and they happen to have a branch in my city..
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http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showthread.php?36820-powder-coating/page2 (http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showthread.php?36820-powder-coating/page2)
Check out jay_zero's #37 post
http://www.philippinecompanies.com/companyprofile/289426/republic-powdercoat-corporation (http://www.philippinecompanies.com/companyprofile/289426/republic-powdercoat-corporation)
Also even if it is $20-30 grip I would not bat an eye..Originally they billed me $6 for the whole shebang but the price went down when I told them I have friends in the construction business who would be happy to know their services..We may be a 3rd world country but we are not that far behind. You will be surprised if you happen to visit the major cities in the Phils..
Moreover I have observed that most Caucasian members always complain about the high prices of parts custom or store-bought for their toys. Frankly and modesty aside I find them affordable..Like the Europeans particularly the Englishmen we pay almost 3x of what you pay for over there to get something made in the US. If I were in the US I would never buy scope mounts other than BKL ( I have them and have ordered more thru my cousin) or Sportsmatch or those "cheap" Leapers or Hawke scopes..A $78 Leapers scope is being sold here for around $170-180 and yet we still buy them. Sorry for the rant gents. Best regards.
Quote from: crossliner on January 27, 2013, 05:34:39 AM
Also even if it is $20-30 grip I would not bat an eye..Originally they billed me $6 for the whole shebang but the price went down when I told them I have friends in the construction business who would be happy to know their services..We may be a 3rd world country but we are not that far behind. You will be surprised if you happen to visit the major cities in the Phils..
Moreover I have observed that most Caucasian members always complain about the high prices of parts custom or store-bought for their toys. Frankly and modesty aside I find them affordable..Like the Europeans particularly the Englishmen we pay almost 3x of what you pay for over there to get something made in the US. If I were in the US I would never buy scope mounts other than BKL ( I have them and have ordered more thru my cousin) or Sportsmatch or those "cheap" Leapers or Hawke scopes..A $78 Leapers scope is being sold here for around $170-180 and yet we still buy them. Sorry for the rant gents. Best regards.
Good points Mr Cross, totally agree :-*
Here is my P150/$3.65 powdercoat job..It was flat black at 1st ( my decision ) but I told them I don't like it too much so they changed it and charged me extra so from P100/$2.43 it became $3.65..I gave the gunner P100 tip and it made him very happy. Told him some folks in the US get theirs for $30-$50/grip (?) and he kinda looked like this :o..Also told him that even at $20-30 I would still find it reasonable and would willingly pay for it..No matter how goodlooking the gun is it's still so so if the grips ain't done right imho but it's just me.
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..casting marks? There are none.. I like it coz the coat is thick and luxurious..
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Very nice Mr Cross, I for one would gladly pay that for a grip frame like that :-*
Thanks Mr. D 8)