Inspired by the what's in your UPS truck thread....here's another question...
What work did you just do to one or your Crosmans?
Last night I pulled apart one of my 1377's, extended the sear slot on the tube with a Dremel, polished the inside, installed a Mellon solid hammer, mounted a prod trigger frame to it, swapped in a Cothran SS safety from the old frame.
Today I'm going to "bedliner" some plastic grips and see what I can do to make em stop shifting on a frame.
Resealed my 1400, and tore down the 160 and 150 so I could send the valve stems off to Precision Pellet and get back a pair of seal kits with rebuilt stems.
I also touched up the scratches and gouges on a Crosman S331 peep with Aluminum Black from Birchwood Casey.
Finished the rear sight on the AIR17 and changed the plastic rear sling mount to a metal one like the front. I also moved the cheek rest back a bit. Now I just need to test it and see if the adjustments I made worked.
after swapping the 2260 to hpa found i'd lost 100fps so a valve tune(reduced threads light spring cut off piercing pin 20 degree angle on exhaust port bored out back of valve) i was going to put the boring bar on and bore out the valve body but couldn't find it. drilled out the barrel port to 4mm then found i'd gone a bit hot power wise so had to cut hammer spring down by a third then fit guide and an m4 nut as a shim
now consistently doing 580 with a nice light cocking action
triggers the next job
ped
i reworked my trigger yesterday added a wide brass plate to it like the mellon wide triggers a couple of other peers did it too. only i did it with a pot metal trigger and brass wide blade ;)
put the trigger frame together with the sear chongman sent me ,gotta assemble today gave the jbweld time to cure no solder in my mod
mounted a scope and orion camera mount to my Oogie Boogie build will get pics up today after i sight it in and make a video
going to finish putting the custom 2300 togther
Modified a 1377 steel breech kit fitting it onto my SSP-250.
Also reworked the Regal NP barrel to fit new breech.
Transfer hole and barrel lead mods etc ...
installed lighter sear spring and made a Delrin spring guide also serving as an over travel stop for trigger pull.
Sweeeeet !
Quote from: 1377x on October 27, 2012, 07:48:57 PM
i reworked my trigger yesterday added a wide brass plate to it like the mellon wide triggers a couple of other peers did it too. only i did it with a pot metal trigger and brass wide blade ;)
put the trigger frame together with the sear chongman sent me ,gotta assemble today gave the jbweld time to cure no solder in my mod
mounted a scope and orion camera mount to my Oogie Boogie build will get pics up today after i sight it in and make a video
going to finish putting the custom 2300 togther
That sounds cool. Can't wait to see pics/video.
I just installed a crosman steel breech and the barrel off my 1377 on one of my 2240's to convert it to .177. My 1377 is waiting for me to get the transfer port drilled and barrel leade cut in the new barrel so I used the breech on the 2240 now I need to get another .177 bolt for the 1377.
Randy
Just finished my 1st stippling attempt and also sanded off my 1st attempt. Harder to have it come out looking good than I thought it would be. Looks like my Outdoorsman stock goes without! But it was worth the try. Nothing ventured nothing gained as they say!
Just before that, I just finished rebuilding an old and neglected Model 150. That actually came out fairly nice with the exception of the tube, which is still awaiting another blue job.
I put an offset dovetail-to-Weaver rail on the Black Widow, then installed the rings to and mounted the Barska 2 x 20 I just received from breakfastchef. In perfect condition, by the way. I can tell he takes care of his stuff.
Nice little rig. :) I can't wait to get it dialed in.
Recrowned the barrel on my 1377 and swapped out the scope.
Experimented with the taco hold after installing a compact BugBuster 3-9 scope on my Crosman Mark II. Not my cup of tea, so I put the Tru-Glo red dot back on.
Running tests with the Pro-Top on the 22xx valve. Awaiting a parts order from Crosman for additional planned tests.
Refinished the RBGrips walnut pump arm on my 1377 carbine accented with TBL and a couple of BBs.
Reworked the Sheridan E (.20) trigger group.
quite a bit of stuff.
filed the fiber optic sight a bit.
installed a light trigger spring.
painted the stock olive.
Nothing. I'm waiting for my LPA MIM sight. Then I'm going to tear it apart and do the dog. 1322 BIG DOG.
Wow! You guys have been busy! Just this past week, on my 1377, I did a poor person's trigger tune: lube and lighten. I then installed a NcStar 2.5X30 pistol scope on NcStar 1" see-thru high 3/8" dovetail rings sitting on Crosman 459 intermounts. Great scope so far. Big, clear picture, easy to zero, no lag. I see what you guys mean when you speak of the barrel not being tight in the breech and front sight/barrel band/pump tube end plug. There is a little movement if I push on it. Probably not suitable for precision target work or rugged enough for hunting but I only plink (actually "thunk" 'cause I like shooting empty plastic pop bottles). I tried a lighter 4X20 rimfire scope but the eye relief was too short and holding the pistol that close to my face was awkward although the fore end helped some.
I went on a bed liner binge. Painted two pairs of black plastic Crosman grips, an RB Grips pump arm, and a steel ldc that was scratched up. Love this stuff.
Made a pair of brass 13xx pump arm pins.
pc
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_5389.jpg)
Worked on The Phoenix somr todad, And worked on my new shop!
With some help from Ed, I just installed a new steel breech on the 1377 and the red dot. The 6 month project is finally progressing!
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/100_0758.jpg)
And with the lights on:
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/100_0759.jpg)
I think I need to do the 'ol "wax in the screw head trick", pellets are hanging up.
^^Love my BSA Red Dot. That looks great.
Have fun!
Just finished testing the AIR17 with the sight adjustments I made and it's working perfectly! This project is done! Now to test the AM77 but it's very windy here still.
fitted magpul copy stock to my heinz 57 build and machined sear spring guide for a 22xx
ped
ped that's a nice lookin shooter :-*
wow!
great job ped!!!! 8) :-*
Quote from: ped on October 29, 2012, 10:24:03 PM
fitted magpul copy stock to my heinz 57 build and machined sear spring guide for a 22xx
ped
ped, that looks like a hunter! how much did it cost?
i got the stock of e bay
its sold as a tippman bt4 and was £30 but it says magpul on it so i presume it's a chinese copy ,it's very well made and feels solid but only time will tell if it was a good buy
i'm happy with it
ped
I like it very COOL 8) 8) 8) :-*
i just noticed the door in the back of the stock with extra magazine in it .very nice!!
what stock adapter are you using on the gun?
i made it ed, as the gas tube is made from the front of a qb78 tube i left it long at the rear and left the threads on
then i fastened the gas plug nut to the stock with an m12 cap head bolt ,it just screws on
ped
i keep forgetting thats based on a qb tube
i think this gun here is cool its also based on a qb tube
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,37946.0/topicseen.html (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,37946.0/topicseen.html)
that is impresive thats some pressure he's running at (if i read his figures right) certainly not a standard xs 78 tube as the're made of chocolate
shame we can't have them easily as i'd certainly have ago at one of those
ped
Quote from: ped on October 30, 2012, 07:08:34 PM
that is impresive thats some pressure he's running at (if i read his figures right) certainly not a standard xs 78 tube as the're made of chocolate
shame we can't have them easily as i'd certainly have ago at one of those
ped
i thought it looked kinda long for a standard tube maybe an extention ???
Current project over the weekend was to loose some barrel length off the .22 M-rod making rifle more woods friendly without losing the known attributes of the factory set up .... think think think ???
Figured actually cutting barrel shorter than it's already stubby 20 length WAS NOT going to be an option .... So next best thing was getting onto the Lathe & Milling machine and re-engineer some stuff.
Delrin is GREAT stuff to work with, so went about building some substitute parts that would allow going to a bigger 1" diameter tube with a shorter length than OEM tube.
Ended up 4" shorter than factory set up in the process ... Sweet !!
Gaining the added separation distance required going from factory 7/8" O.D. to 1" O.D. Tube required an @ .080" breech riser. This made from a thin wall section of aluminum tubing with the required mount holes, transfer tube and cocking lug slots all machined into place.
WALA .... Shorter ... fatter with being equally effecient as OEM.
M-rods getting more Carbine sized becoming a better woods rifle with every tweak.
Put a new piston spring, breech seal, lube tune and added a few washers to the spring guide for a little something extra on my Quest 1000. That spring tar settled that thing right down. :) Gapmaster ;)
made a stock plastic breech into a left hand plastic breech :-*
I just unboxed the benchtop sized powdercoating oven and put it... on a benchtop. ;)
I also took apart an older trigger frame (the only two screw version I own and have ever held in my hand) that has a dull brass (and very uncomfortable) trigger on it. I determined that what is so uncomfortable to my finger is that the last bit of trigger feels like a pressure point. Only way it felt half ass was if I let the trigger fall into the crease between the end and second joint of my finger. That ain't no way to pull a trigger! I believe I'll take care of that and the dullness before it's over.
It also has the most perfectly uniform casting line all the way around! ;) That will go, too... but not tonight. I put one wee nylon washer on one side of the sear "axle" to get rid of about that much side to side play. I compressed the spring in my vice for a few hours to take about 1/2 a turn worth of memory out of it (much better). The spring now BARELY compresses when at rest between the frame catch and the bottom of the sear. The pull is much lighter and there is very little radial slop in the trigger or the sear. I checked the contact points of the sear and the trigger and saw where a previous owner had already polished and smoothed them.
Why all the fuss? This one will be powder-coated, so I had to make sure it will be righteous aside from the new finish. It will be fine. :)
Installed a new trigger, safety and barrel band from DC on my 2240 .... sweet stuff !!!! :-*
Stripped a brand new custom shop 2300 so I could have the engraved main tube on my 2540 gun :-*
(http://www.droid.co.uk/2540new.jpg)
Now I have a spare 2240 to play with.
Gary
Built a workbench for my lathe and mill.
Degreased, oiled and mounted mini mill.
Recut the knurl of a Crosman 600 tube cap and reblued it.
I been trying to paint a few items but its been so damp I don't want to chance it. Plus sandy realy hit Freeport hard.
nice set up cmj!
you know my long list order is going to be on its way soon ;) ;D ;D
what did i hear??? manual milled custom aluminum grip frame on its way to my door ??? ;) ;D ;D
cant wait to get a set up like that.i was talking about guns with a friend that just moved back,he said he's going to go to the army so he can learn small arms repair,he wants to repair all small arms.while i'm at the store today hopefully the technical college is right around the corner ,im going to go see when machining classes start again.i want to learn cnc and manual they teach both and its a quick degree/certificate
lovin that monocore motorhead
Light weight - high velocity Hammer for the Regulated M-Rod.
OEM hammer = 72g
Billet hammer 37g
Worked great flinging .22 JSB 18.1's at @840 first chony shots ... Less burbing with a quieter shot from less wasted air :D
Finished cleaning and touching up a Crosman S331 peep sight to go on the 160.
Before, with rust and flaky shellac-like coating:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/S331-C.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/S331-D.jpg)
After cleaning, rebluing steel parts, minimizing scratches in anodized parts with BC Aluminum Black, and addition of NOS aperture:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/After-1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/After-3.jpg)
That came out real nice YSYEO!
Quote from: YSYEO on October 31, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
Finished cleaning and touching up a Crosman S331 peep sight to go on the 160.
Before, with rust and flaky shellac-like coating:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/S331-C.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/S331-D.jpg)
After cleaning, rebluing steel parts, minimizing scratches in anodized parts with BC Aluminum Black, and addition of NOS aperture:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/After-1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/After-3.jpg)
Wow that is some nice work!!
Great job YSYEO. I looks like new. :-*
That is nice work YSYEO :-*
Just added a Muzzle Mack 32 hole muzzle brake to the 1377. Not sure if it does anything but it sure looks cool. 8)
Thanks, guys, for the compliments on the peep restore.
After the peep was done, I resealed the 150 and the 160. While the 160 was apart, I milled and tapped the receiver to accept the peep sight.
Milling the first hole.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/MillHole1.jpg)
Both holes done prior to tapping.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/MillDone.jpg)
Tapping for 10-32 threads.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/TapHole.jpg)
Here it is on the 160.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/S331Mounted.jpg)
Nice work!! :-* :-*
Very nice wish I had those kind of skills. Only ones I have is making a mess of things.
WOW! Some people just have talent.
Worked on my new shop today. Trying to get same power out to it.
Good work
sighted in the red dot on my custom 2300 and packaged up some stuff thats shipping out tomorrow
I tried a quick and dirty solution to the hollow plastic grip issue which also fixes the shifting problem. I just filled the bottom of the grip with very hot glue from a hot glue gun, put it on the frame without tipping it, then tipped it upright all before the glue hardened. The melted glue then flowed down so that it was touching both the grip and the frame. No more hollow feel and no shift. And when you want to remove the grip it just kind of peels off like hot glue does from metal. When you want to put it back on, reheat the glue with the glue gun and repeat.
I liked the results so much I did it to 3 Crosmans with plastic grips.
Quote from: bgmcgee on October 31, 2012, 08:54:07 PM
Just added a Muzzle Mack 32 hole muzzle brake to the 1377. Not sure if it does anything but it sure looks cool. 8)
you may not notice it
when you use a flat top set up in a 1377 it kicks like a .22lr pistol.the mm muzzlebrake will add weight to the front of the gun reducing the kick some
my nephew who is 22 and not so little got a kick out my 1377 kicking.he shot it stock and liked it even more so after i flat topped it
made a couple of refillable 88g co2 capsules with on off valves have to go back to workshop as ones got a slight leak
ped
Installed my new RB grips
I've been working on some ivory colored grips. They are heavier, stronger and more solid (nowhere near as much hollowness in the recess) than the standard Crosman grips. Nor do they have the deep fake woodgrain. Thanks to chongman for sending the grips that got sanded, filled and shaped for this project. They are coming along quite nicely, I'd say.
My keeper set will be one design aspect of the "Kung Fu Panda" I vowed to make in honor of the S.F. Giants winning the World Series. I'm thinking powder coated ivory color on a muzzle brake and a trigger shoe... possibly the PA as well. We'll see.
WOW they LOOK GREAT :-* :-* Got an old Crosman 66 in today. Took it down resealed sanded and in paint now. pics later.
Those white grips look SHARP Davio. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: Davio on November 04, 2012, 01:50:59 AM
I've been working on some ivory colored grips. They are heavier, stronger and more solid (nowhere near as much hollowness in the recess) than the standard Crosman grips. Nor do they have the deep fake woodgrain. Thanks to chongman for sending the grips that got sanded, filled and shaped for this project. They are coming along quite nicely, I'd say.
My keeper set will be one design aspect of the "Kung Fu Panda" I vowed to make in honor of the S.F. Giants winning the World Series. I'm thinking powder coated ivory color on a muzzle brake and a trigger shoe... possibly the PA as well. We'll see.
wow! how are they made? trade secret?
close ups? i almosr burnt out my computer drooling over those grips ;D
put me down for a set of those if you make them available.thats just what i need for my custom 2300
shoot me a pm davio
Quote from: 1377x on November 04, 2012, 03:07:10 AM
wow! how are they made? trade secret?
close ups? i almosr burnt out my computer drooling over those grips ;D
put me down for a set of those if you make them available.thats just what i need for my custom 2300
shoot me a pm davio
Well, they're not painted and they're not powder coated. ;) And they are not direct copies. :)
Let me put it this way, I'll be doing full dentures soon... and that is when the cash will roll in! (got the ivory color... what colors to make gum pink?) ;) :D ;D
Close ups when done, I assure you.
dentures huh ???
there mold made right?
well if you have them in white i need a set thats for sure
Quote from: Davio on November 04, 2012, 04:21:36 AM
Well, they're not painted and they're not powder coated. ;) And they are not direct copies. :)
Let me put it this way, I'll be doing full dentures soon... and that is when the cash will roll in! (got the ivory color... what colors to make gum pink?) ;) :D ;D
Close ups when done, I assure you.
:D ;D ;D LOL I'll take a full set ;D ;D ;D ;D
You guys HAVE to know I'm just kidding about dentures, right? :( Then again, with the average age of this forum... ???
On the grips, I've got some fine finishing to do, then a clear coat for two of the sets.
On another front, in just a few minutes, the Mellon aluminum PA will no longer be aluminum color. What a pain to mask off, but worth it. I'll post pics of the powder coated satin black Mellon PA in a bit. The Black Widow needs it real bad, you know?
Here are the pics of the PA in process:
And finished. The flash shows some fine pitting on the top only, but it's a keeper for the first dance and good enough for the Black Widow. :)
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:( :( :( You sayin your not goin to make dentures! :o What will do :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You guys HAVE to know I'm just kidding about dentures, right? Then again, with the average age of this forum...
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on November 04, 2012, 06:15:26 AM
:( :( :( You sayin your not goin to make dentures! :o What will do :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Below the Mason-Dixon: Grits :-*
Above the Mason-Dixon: Cream of wheat, I guess. Or gruel... or porridge... or curds and whey... hell, how would I know? ;D
Grits and fried tater hot cakes eggs over easy hot coffee. Come on inan have a set down and dig in he Haw :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on November 04, 2012, 06:54:51 AM
Grits and fried tater hot cakes eggs over easy hot coffee. Come on inan have a set down and dig in he Haw :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
please no fried tater!!!!
he just got his 1377 together ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: 1377x on November 04, 2012, 07:48:55 AM
please no fried tater!!!!
he just got his 1377 together ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: 1377x on November 04, 2012, 07:48:55 AM
please no fried tater!!!!
he just got his 1377 together ;D ;D ;D
I 2nd this. :o
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Davio the Alchemist :-*
Amazing grips and I know there are many more exciting things coming from your skunk works ;)
Quote from: chongman on November 04, 2012, 12:49:01 PM
Davio the Alchemist :-*
Amazing grips and I know there are many more exciting things coming from your skunk works ;)
I don't know about any amazing, but thanks for the kind words, chongman. :)
I just did get through putting a tiny (.067") sight bead (about 1/2 the width of the Crosman and MIM boat paddles I've been stuck with) onto the top of a Crosman standard front sight to do two things I have been yearning for: Get a bit higher and get a lot smaller on the front sight.
Why, you ask? I've said it before and I'll say it again. I HATE the size of the standard front blade AND the huge "notch" in both the standard rear sight AND its little metal "mini me" the MIM sight. I like them about as much as I like 5 MOA dots and such. So, I got the $10 off-brand whatever it was from PA and got it adjusted as low as I could without shaving metal anywhere (although I did cut the front bolt down). It was almost there. That close. Now, let me tell you that well made but inexpensive iron sight has a smaller notch than the ones I LOATHE (see above). I believe this will let me get that sight going. PLUS, I have a Williams Diopter sight that I am pretty sure needs both a slightly higher front sight and will be nothing but improved with the .067" bead.
I'll find out within a few days and "report back to headquarters".
Here's a few pics of the bead on the sight in case anybody is interested.
more...
and the last ones...
By the way, the bead is threaded and adjustable. I have its base cranked down flush for now.
I'll smooth out the front section I cut before it ever gets a home on a gun. That business was so it can get closer to a barrel band on a build. No reason for that to be two inches long!
Grits, eggs, biscuits and sausage gravy are a sunday morning tradition at my house.
Quote from: BKM on November 04, 2012, 03:38:21 PM
Grits, eggs, biscuits and sausage gravy are a sunday morning tradition at my house.
:-* All most every morn. at mine. It's great to have a wife that will get up and cook like that! :)
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on November 04, 2012, 03:43:56 PM
:-* All most every morn. at mine. It's great to have a wife that will get up and cook like that! :)
It must be! I'll take your word for it, cause I wouldn't know. ;)
Round here, it's a decision between Cracker Barrel and IHOP. IHOP wins today. :-* Bad thing is neither one of them have sorghum syrup. Maple syrup is highly overrated IMRNO (in my red neck opinion). :D
I'm working on polishing the tube and barrel for my 1377.
Randy
My AR2078B won't fire at times, and there isn't any release of CO2, and so, I'll be disassembling it to see if I can find the problem While doing that, I'll be installing an HDD mod kit, and I'll lap the trigger and sear. RC
my custom 2300 is firing really weak imapct is loud but barely puts a dent in anything.gotta figure out the problem
i think its because im using a disco rear end and it covers up the bleed hole in the tube and its affecting the hammer/tube compression slowing down the hammer and acting as a cushion not releasing the co2 properly.when i go home tomorrow i'm going to add a relief spot to the bottom of the disco valve opening up the bleed hole.im going to chrony before and after results
I started polishing a Don Cothran Machine stainless steel end cap with some Mother's Mag and Aluminum paste (thanks for reminding me about it Brian!) I got to thinking....and that sometimes leads me astray.... what would really make my cap unique? Yep, serious brain sizzle was going on and I came up with something ;)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/2300T/dccap1.jpg)
The silver plated Eagle Globe and Anchor is from a US Marine Corps Pistol Sharpshooter badge. It took some doing to remove it from the cross (first attempt was a disaster, I had to sacrifice another badge). After an insane amount of time I got one off. After I get the cap to a "chrome" look I'll epoxy it on :-*
Now that IS cool. :-*
awsome job,chongman!
now thats a real personal touch :-*
Awesome C-man!!! :-* :-*
That is awesome Chongman!!
Semper Fi!
Thanks :)
Fine job Chong. Looks great. RC
Very cool chongman :-* :-* :-*
:-* Thats way cool chongman :-*
Chongman, you made two of these didn't you brotha? Way cool. :-*
Quote from: 0351_Vet on November 05, 2012, 10:26:35 PM
Chongman, you made two of these didn't you brotha? Way cool. :-*
You got a cap I hook you up :-*
Quote from: chongman on November 05, 2012, 10:43:00 PM
You got a cap I hook you up :-*
How did you you .get the EG&A off the S/S Cross?
Is it soldered?
(I never got to play with the S/S Badge much, as I always shot Expert) :D :D :-*
Quote from: Davio on November 04, 2012, 04:17:00 PM
It must be! I'll take your word for it, cause I wouldn't know. ;)
Round here, it's a decision between Cracker Barrel and IHOP. IHOP wins today. :-* Bad thing is neither one of them have sorghum syrup. Maple syrup is highly overrated IMRNO (in my red neck opinion). :D
Oh ya... Sorghum over biscuits, grits & butter, corn-bread w/ buttermilk...now we're eatin :-*
Quote from: BDS on November 05, 2012, 11:23:44 PM
Oh ya... Sorghum over biscuits, grits & butter, corn-bread w/ buttermilk...now we're eatin :-*
Sounds like you are from the South. That's almost the only place to get eatin like that!!! :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on November 06, 2012, 12:09:51 AM
Sounds like you are from the South. That's almost the only place to get eatin like that!!! :-* :-* :-*
DEEEP South... below the "gnat line"... where everybody talks with their hands in the summertime! ;)
If you don't understand the above, then you ain't from 'round here, are ya? ;D
Quote from: 0351_Vet on November 05, 2012, 10:47:39 PM
How did you you .get the EG&A off the S/S Cross?
Is it soldered?
At first I thought it was, fired up the 50watt iron and heated the back side...nothing man, turned the EG&A black! I tossed it and had a hard look at another badge from the stash. It turns out it's pressed on before the plating. a little work with some .003" thick razor saws and I had it going :-*
(I never got to play with the S/S Badge much, as I always shot Expert) :D :D :-*
Multiple rifle and pistol expert myself. I have a stash like cash sales! You know, being the gunney I always had to have some of everything to take care of the troops when it came time for inspections ;)
Yea man, some Rappa brand scrapple, scrambles and a couple of cat head biscuits :-*
Quote from: chongman on November 06, 2012, 12:57:54 AM
Multiple rifle and pistol expert myself. I have a stash like cash sales! You know, being the gunney I always had to have some of everything to take care of the troops when it came time for inspections ;)
Just givin you a hard time my Brotha. :-* :-*
I will .have to give that a try. Just have to locate a SS badge next time I'm near a PX. :-*
Quote from: Davio on November 06, 2012, 12:18:26 AM
DEEEP South... below the "gnat line"... where everybody talks with their hands in the summertime! ;)
If you don't understand the above, then you ain't from 'round here, are ya? ;D
I know what you're talkin bout ;D You tie our hands and we can't say a word. LOL :D :D ;D ;D ;D
I just put a 1389 forearm on my 1377. Too lazy to post pics tonight, but I will when I got the 12" barrel put on soon.
Well it was yesterday as well really but I found a screw size that is the same or very nearly the same size as the breech screw but 5% of the price :-* :-*
Today I took most of my guns apart then made a new lot all looking different ;)
Gary
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on November 06, 2012, 12:09:51 AM
Sounds like you are from the South. That's almost the only place to get eatin like that!!! :-* :-* :-*
Decatur GA originally... red clay, 4x4's and REAL BBQ :D :-*
spent the day splitting logs but i did bunk off for a couple of hours and painted the shroud and barrel band of my heinz 57 multi shot and managed to seal one of my refillable 88g co2 capsules
i then decided to fit a fill nipple into the base of one so it can be left on the rifle as to take it off you have to move the barrel/tank band(which will scratch the shroud) or remove scope to take complete shroud and band off)
i also covered them with shrink tube but forgot to make a delrin fill nipple protector
ped
pics of painted shroud
ped
Quote from: ped on November 06, 2012, 08:54:14 PM
pics of painted shroud
ped
Wow that thing is bad right there ped! Those tanks came out sweet too :-* :-*
cheers ern bit of a pain to make them but they make co2 more viable cost wise as i can refill from a co2 fire extinguisher
i'm going to zero in tomorrow time permitting and hopefully get rid of a couple of ferals that are making a nuisance of themselves but murphys law dictates that they won't be about while i've a gun to hand
ped
Quote from: ped on November 06, 2012, 10:19:35 PM
cheers ern bit of a pain to make them but they make co2 more viable cost wise as i can refill from a co2 fire extinguisher
i'm going to zero in tomorrow time permitting and hopefully get rid of a couple of ferals that are making a nuisance of themselves but murphys law dictates that they won't be about while i've a gun to hand
ped
Lol specially with a gun that looks like that!
Turned 8 little disks from a 1/4-20 nylon bolt to use with the shorter set screws to mount an Integrabase on my 1400 without leaving marks.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%201400/NoMarDisks.jpg)
I know they make nylon tipped set screws, but I'm too cheap to pay $10 shipping to get a handful of 70 cent set screws.
Also, these disks have roughly twice the cross sectional area of the ready to go screws.
nice work ysyeo!
ped, good job!!! on the heinz57
looking good guys
Quote from: YSYEO on November 07, 2012, 12:07:32 AM
Turned 8 little disks from a 1/4-20 nylon bolt to use with the shorter set screws to mount an Integrabase on my 1400 without leaving marks.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%201400/NoMarDisks.jpg)
I know they make nylon tipped set screws, but I'm too cheap to pay $10 shipping to get a handful of 70 cent set screws.
Also, these disks have roughly twice the cross sectional area of the ready to go screws.
Man those things are great
I added some parts to the 2300T :)
Don Cothran Machine stainless steel .177 bolt and cylinder shaped bolt handle along with an end cap. I polished them both with Mother's mag and alum. polish. An added embellishment to the end cap, a silver plated Eagle, Globe & Anchor from a USMC pistol shooting badge. At the barrel end I have a Blue Fork Designs front sight assembly. It's black anodized aluminum with a red light pipe that I got HPA Sports. I'm not real sure if I like the sight yet. The light pipe could be a bit larger in dia. and the blade wider for use with the LPA mim sight. Take not that it will fill a stock Crosman blade sight on the plastic breech very nicely.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/2300T/2300T7.jpg)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/2300T/2300T6.jpg)
I think I need a LDC...
That is gorgeous Chongman. The USMC looks awesome on that.
QuoteThat is gorgeous Chongman. The USMC looks awesome on that.
Ditto!
Cheers,
Very very nice work, chongman. :)
That's a classy build. You could sell those end caps.
Thanks fellas :)
The creative juices are flowing nicely now :-*
:) Finished this up on Sat.
Quote from: chongman on November 11, 2012, 06:51:37 PM
I added some parts to the 2300T :)
Don Cothran Machine stainless steel .177 bolt and cylinder shaped bolt handle along with an end cap. I polished them both with Mother's mag and alum. polish. An added embellishment to the end cap, a silver plated Eagle, Globe & Anchor from a USMC pistol shooting badge. At the barrel end I have a Blue Fork Designs front sight assembly. It's black anodized aluminum with a red light pipe that I got HPA Sports. I'm not real sure if I like the sight yet. The light pipe could be a bit larger in dia. and the blade wider for use with the LPA mim sight. Take not that it will fill a stock Crosman blade sight on the plastic breech very nicely.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/2300T/2300T7.jpg)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/2300T/2300T6.jpg)
I think I need a LDC...
awsome job chongman! 8)
great pics!!
Trophyhunter and Chongman, those are both awesome builds!
Nothing major for me, just dropped in a replacement barrel in my MK I to replace the pitted barrel it had. Shoots much better now!
-Xander
Quote from: fast14riot on November 11, 2012, 10:17:32 PM
Trophyhunter and Chongman, those are both awesome builds!
Nothing major for me, just dropped in a replacement barrel in my MK I to replace the pitted barrel it had. Shoots much better now!
-Xander
Very good! As the
current caretaker of that fine example of Crosman craftsmanship, you did right by it :-*
Great looking stuff guys. :-*
Chongman, you really out do yourself with every build. Semper Fi :-*
Happy Veterans Day you'all....... :-*
Quote from: 0351_Vet on November 11, 2012, 10:56:24 PM
Great looking stuff guys. :-*
Chongman, you really out do yourself with every build. Semper Fi :-*
Happy Veterans Day you'all....... :-*
Likewise sir.
Quote from: YSYEO on November 11, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
Very good! As the current caretaker of that fine example of Crosman craftsmanship, you did right by it :-*
Thanx, I feel the same way, I am just a custodian of the gun! I do want another one or 3! I have all new seals as well, but when I drop those in I will be doing a major refurb of the gun, so I just wanted to shoot it for now. Currently it has hardware store O-rings in it and it shoots well, can't wait til the rebuild.
-Xander
Trophyhunter- beautiful :-*
Quote from: Tater on November 11, 2012, 07:08:35 PM
That is gorgeous Chongman. The USMC looks awesome on that.
Yeah man!
:) Thx guys :)
Very nice work chongman and Trophyhunter
Quote from: targettgii on November 12, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
Very nice work chongman and Trophyhunter
i agree top jobs
ped
Didn't do this in one day, from 10/11/2012 to 11/11/2012 in my spare time.
1) FT two brass 760 valves
drilled & tapped them for front grip screw.
enlarged ports to 5/32", milled a 3/16" counterbore, and angled the valve port shoulder.
2) made two brass sleeves with polytube seals
3) converted an aluminium 1377 valve to a 760 valve.
Took awhile as I was waiting for equipment and tooling to arrive.
Mounted a torch on 1 of my 2400KTs. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4371.jpg)
Quote from: crossliner on November 12, 2012, 11:46:09 AM
Mounted a torch on 1 of my 2400KTs. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4371.jpg)
That is most excellent Mr.Crossliner :-\ Two tone torch? Very interesting :-*
Quote from: BigErn on November 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
That is most excellent Mr.Crossliner :-\ Two tone torch? Very interesting :-*
Yes sir it's black and stainless..Thanks and best regards.
Quote from: cmj21973 on November 12, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Didn't do this in one day, from 10/11/2012 to 11/11/2012 in my spare time.
1) FT two brass 760 valves
drilled & tapped them for front grip screw.
enlarged ports to 5/32", milled a 3/16" counterbore, and angled the valve port shoulder.
2) made two brass sleeves with polytube seals
3) converted an aluminium 1377 valve to a 760 valve.
Took awhile as I was waiting for equipment and tooling to arrive.
(http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9044.0;attach=11985;image)
Nice work!
I'd like to know more about those sleeves.
Are those little O-rings on the end?
Quote from: cmj21973 on November 12, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
Didn't do this in one day, from 10/11/2012 to 11/11/2012 in my spare time.
1) FT two brass 760 valves
drilled & tapped them for front grip screw.
enlarged ports to 5/32", milled a 3/16" counterbore, and angled the valve port shoulder.
2) made two brass sleeves with polytube seals
3) converted an aluminium 1377 valve to a 760 valve.
Took awhile as I was waiting for equipment and tooling to arrive.
Very nice machine work :-*
Quote from: crossliner on November 12, 2012, 11:46:09 AM
Mounted a torch on 1 of my 2400KTs. Best regards.
Oh yea, I like that! Interesting looking safety you have on there ;)
Sanded off the wood grain and bedlined a set of spare grips and pump arm in preparation for the arrival of a 1322 :-* Took me two hours to sand the wood grain off >:( I should have the 1322 in my possesion by this afternoon if all goes well.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img585/723/dscn1798u.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img846/4972/dscn1800q.jpg)
Nice Chongman, the globe and anchor is a great touch... Semper Fi to all the jar-heads and happy vets day to us! :-*
Looking good BigErn :-* The pump arm looks small or is it an optical illusion ???
Quote from: YSYEO on November 12, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
Nice work!
I'd like to know more about those sleeves.
Are those little O-rings on the end?
you and i both!!
nice job bigern!
great looking torch crossliner no vampire is safe as long as you have that handy at night ;) ;D :o
+1 on the sleeves. Never have seen those before. :-*
:( No work for Me today ,been in bed almost all day! Back went out last nite. Guy all this work ya'll have done in the last day or two looks just GREAT. Nice job to all :-*
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on November 13, 2012, 01:48:41 AM
:( No work for Me today ,been in bed almost all day! Back went out last nite. Guy all this work ya'll have done in the last day or two looks just GREAT. Nice job to all :-*
Rest up brother :-*
:) Thanks chongman!
dont push it! i know the feeling
Quote from: 1377x on November 12, 2012, 09:56:40 PM
you and i both!!
nice job bigern!
great looking torch crossliner no vampire is safe as long as you have that handy at night ;) ;D :o
It is the o-ring from a disposable; flame adjustable lighter.
It's the o-ring on the left of both pictures.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,721.msg57372.html#msg57372 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,721.msg57372.html#msg57372)
The brass sleeve
Made similiar to these, except that the bottom o-ring is not need because the sleeve sits in a counterbored pocket. When the poly tube is slid over the sleeve it's width increases over the 1/4" limit and won't fit into the valve port. The poly tube is slid onto 3/16" rod which is chucked into the lathe. I then turn down the poly unto it measures a 1/4" .250; pull it of the lathe holder an insert the sleeve.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,7185.msg78006.html#msg78006 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,7185.msg78006.html#msg78006)
Quote from: cmj21973 on November 13, 2012, 07:14:18 AM
It is the o-ring from a disposable; flame adjustable lighter.
It's the o-ring on the left of both pictures.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,721.msg57372.html#msg57372 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,721.msg57372.html#msg57372)
The brass sleeve
whats the id of that set up
i might need a couple.i have the disposable lighter o-rings
A 5/64" .15625 drill bit fit inside. Caliper reads .157 (manual).
Quote from: cmj21973 on November 13, 2012, 07:32:31 AM
A 5/64" .15625 drill bit fit inside. Caliper reads .157 (manual).
well thats pretty good sized
i usually use a .161 transfer port but 5/32(.157) would do.i think i need somethinh like that with my Oogie Boogie build.my .25 build has a huge exhaust port .190 in the disco valve
my ports flow as followed exhaust .157, transfer port .161 and barrel .166 its a tapered system.i think its supposed to reduce turbulance something like that ???
something like ep .157, tp .170, bp .157 iirc causes turbulance and that affects performance ???
i also angle my ep at 20* supposed to be optimal when using hpa
I enlarged the valve port to 5/32" and counterbored it to 3/16" x 0.050 deep.
I decided to angle the port shoulder, by hand with a half round needle file, at the steepest angled possible without hitting the backside of the valve port.
When I get a chrony, parts and seal kits first, I'll have to compare a stock valve to a modded one to see what increases I'm getting.
you still dont have a chrony
for some reason i thought you did
oh well the splatter test works too
i came up with the 2 liter bottle test at 15ft. guys said their guns shooting over 700fps in .177 would pass right through a 2 liter bottle capped and filled with water.i didnt stop modding until my gun completely shot a pellet through a capped 2 liter water filled bottle at 15ft and made it do a backflip using .22
as heavy as a capped filled 2 liter is and the 16gr pellet is making this bottle flip like that it has to be putting out some power.nutters dont weigh anywhere near that or as round so i know they wouldnt stand a chance
Thank you gents. Best regards.
Put on the bedlined pump arm and grips on my new 1322 and changed the stock brass bolt to a black Crosman bolt I had laying around for now. Shot it yesterday and I very pleased with the gun so far :-\
:) :) Finshed zeroing the Pheonix today :) :)
All the nastyness of being 10 years old was bugging me on my recently acquired 1377, so I polished the stock brass bolt and trigger, looks MUCH better... also buffed the sear while I was there (didn't smooth the stamping marks off, but it's still smoother than it was)
Having the dremel like thing out buffing on the thing was making me want to polish the grip frame... then I looked at the clock and realized it was 11pm...
This morning I installed my Crosman steel breech, polished the end cap, polished the bolt handle, mounted a silver dovetail to weaver adapter, and mounted my Crosman red dot sight on the 1322. I can't wait for the rest of the parts to come in!
Started working on an extended scope shroud. I have a Leopould Mark 4 M1 6-24x60 scope and I wanted the extended sun shroud. Couldn't find one that size but one of my hobbies is rocketry. I got to looking at a BT 80 sized tube..it looked pretty close. Well, it didn't fit on the outside like I was hopeing but id did fit inside the slant-cut shrouding provided on the scope :) Piece is 9" long and should work well. Started working on it by toughening the ends by soaking them with CA(super glue). Primered with Rustoleum red primer. Too crappy outside to paint on the flat black but it's supposed to be nice tomorrow and I'll get it done.
And as much as I'm going to hate it I'm going to try photos. I've like only managed to get one to ever post and it was blurry as all get out. I was a staff photog in HS and the results dismayed me :P
Resealed the 1377 phase 2 I got the other day, and desided that the problem I was haveing on my Crosmod 1377 was the hammer pin. So i mounted the Crosmods breeck and barreland shroud on the phase 2. Well that helped a whole lot the bolt was a little bent , put in a new one and everythings ok now. By the way the hammer pin had wollard out the hole in the hammer , that was also makin it hard to cock. Now I have a new old 1377. Well I guess I will be in the market for a steel breech now. Is ther no end to the Madness. LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: DaveC on November 17, 2012, 11:32:32 PM
Started working on an extended scope shroud. I have a Leopould Mark 4 M1 6-24x60 scope and I wanted the extended sun shroud. Couldn't find one that size but one of my hobbies is rocketry. I got to looking at a BT 80 sized tube..it looked pretty close. Well, it didn't fit on the outside like I was hopeing but id did fit inside the slant-cut shrouding provided on the scope :) Piece is 9" long and should work well. Started working on it by toughening the ends by soaking them with CA(super glue). Primered with Rustoleum red primer. Too crappy outside to paint on the flat black but it's supposed to be nice tomorrow and I'll get it done.
And as much as I'm going to hate it I'm going to try photos. I've like only managed to get one to ever post and it was blurry as all get out. I was a staff photog in HS and the results dismayed me :P
Cool! I made one for my Leapers 4x32 out of PVC piping, came out great after I painted it with camo flat black paint.
Got bored today and tore apart the newest 1377 and polished the grip frame, what a pain! Wish I would have gone to the store and got a container to use my sand blaster in... not perfect but looks spiffy :). It's nice that it's the type with the aluminum side plate...
Made four more ivory color grips. Tried a new glaze coating on a test set. Powder coated a silver muzzle brake to black. Bought camo materials for future grips. Made more clear grips. Polished a brass trigger and a sear. Got about 1/2 way on cleaning up a trigger frame's casting flash to powder coat chrome. Chatted with chongman. Pretty good day. :)
Knocked out the roll pin in the 1377 and hand-drilled/widened the holes in prep for the new solid pin. Deburred the holes and Moly'ed up the tube, it's ready to finish up tomorrow. The new pin goes in really snug too. It has to be pushed in pretty hard and I can't wait to see the difference it will make. No more wobble!
Do you guys add washers to the roll pin inside the tube?
i just attempted typing, since my surgery. had to lift my arm up to the keyboard. This sucks.
I'm reading Brothas, just not typing to much. THANKS FOR A YOUR GOOD WISHES. :-*
My arms and shoulders got me SSI...well, carpel tunnel, too. I can't type for long with my keyboard actually sitting up too high. When I play videogames I run my mouse on my thigh and instead of the keyboard I have a Belkin Nostromo N52 gamepad afixed to the left arm of my chair. I usually have a two handed joystick setup attached to the arms, too, but I'm not playing a game that uses a joystick right now. But unless I have a tumor or something NO ONE is going to be cutting on me :P (needle paranoia to the max)
Quote from: Tater on November 18, 2012, 09:33:32 AM
Knocked out the roll pin in the 1377 and hand-drilled/widened the holes in prep for the new solid pin. Deburred the holes and Moly'ed up the tube, it's ready to finish up tomorrow. The new pin goes in really snug too. It has to be pushed in pretty hard and I can't wait to see the difference it will make. No more wobble!
Do you guys add washers to the roll pin inside the tube?
nope!
if your going to would it be done
heres some reading for you
http://www.network54.com/Realm/CFTech/FB13xx.htm (http://www.network54.com/Realm/CFTech/FB13xx.htm)
http://www.mp661k.com/sitedocs/13xx_HotRod.pdf (http://www.mp661k.com/sitedocs/13xx_HotRod.pdf)
http://www.airgununiverse.net/crosman.php?page=13xxvalve (http://www.airgununiverse.net/crosman.php?page=13xxvalve)
Installed a DIY hamster to the pump arm of my 1377 carbine - http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9330.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9330.0.html)
Got my Keith Eisler rosewood combat grips in (love them...some of the most comfortable grips I've ever used) and I had to mill out some of the wood to accommodate the wider sear spring guide on the PRod frame. Mounted on my stubby build of various parts.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/shooting/9f098629fbc1b66ea3b82efd6725c7f3_zps74bfd43c.jpg)
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/shooting/a0eea6bc43c7a05d678f36f4a743be73_zps863efe20.jpg)
PRod frame
2300 etched tube
Crooked Barn Ambi breech
Crosman bolt and handle
Discovery barrel band
HPA Sports Discovery brake
Mellon 6" barrel
i worked on my freshly painted phase 2 1377 :D :-* :-*
put the p-rod trigger group back together removed some overspray ,that wasnt to east since it was painted with duracote.glad it was very little really wasnt noticeable its just i knew it was there so i removed it
had to sand down some of the paint to get the barrel to go into the breech
used all the screws for that gun on other builds so i had to resize some screws
its partially assembled quit working on it for that day because i had to watch the UFC prelims and main card 8)
fronzdan your shooter is lookin' very good!! 8)
did you mod the muzzlebrake or is that the way you received it?
Tore apart a Daisy 1200 and put new o-rings in it,shot the new px4 storm then ended the shooting with the 1377, have to end the day with a crosman.
Quote from: Fronzdan on November 18, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Got my Keith Eisler rosewood combat grips in (love them...some of the most comfortable grips I've ever used) and I had to mill out some of the wood to accommodate the wider sear spring guide on the PRod frame. Mounted on my stubby build of various parts.
Now that looks tight! Love it.
Quote from: Fronzdan on November 18, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Got my Keith Eisler rosewood combat grips in (love them...some of the most comfortable grips I've ever used) and I had to mill out some of the wood to accommodate the wider sear spring guide on the PRod frame. Mounted on my stubby build of various parts.
The grips look fantastic :-*
Thanks guys...yeah love the grips. Already contacted Keith for another pair...hopefully with a little customization if he can do it.
Ed, the brake comes grooved like that to fit between the tube and the barrel. I thought I would have to have Joe make something special. But that's one he makes for a Discovery.
thts cool something like that is available without having to custom order it :-* 8)
Where is Keith Eisler located? ???
Quote from: Davio on November 19, 2012, 02:40:34 AM
Where is Keith Eisler located? ???
http://airgunartisans.com/AA%20Keiths%20Grips.htm (http://airgunartisans.com/AA%20Keiths%20Grips.htm)
Quote from: Davio on November 19, 2012, 02:40:34 AM
Where is Keith Eisler located? ???
http://airgunartisans.com/AA%20Keiths%20Grips.htm (http://airgunartisans.com/AA%20Keiths%20Grips.htm)
maybe canada by the looks of his contact
Ya, Langley, B.C. Canada
Finished the painting of the extended scope shroud today. Burnished the last coat to take the roughness of the flat black paint off the surface, inserted it into the end of the scope and boy, does it look good :) What's even better is the big end cap fits the shroud *much* better than it fits the diagonal cut from the factory. Actually, as it comes the cap barely fits at all, my only complaint about the scope. But that's ok, the extension is a permanet addition ;)
I finished up adding a solid roll pin and a 12" barrel.
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/12inchbarrel.jpg)
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/Brassrollpin.jpg)
That's to all of you guys that answered my rookie questions, especially Ed (1377x) and Mike (PC77). Thanks for the help with parts too.
Looks good Tater good job! I knew you could do it. :-*
pc
looking good!
now i know what to expect when i see my 1377 together
GO SHOOT THAT RIG!!!!! now you finally have it together after all this time
give us range report when you have time
Tater that thing looks GREAT :-* Nice job :-*
Looks fantastic Tater :-* What's next ;)
Thanks guys!!! Been shooting it and even my wife took 15 shots. Still breaking in the barrel, but it seems to be getting there. A 6.5" TKO is next on the list, maybe for Xmas $ permiting.
Just finished this 2300 based pistol;
- 1701P Trigger frame
- Mellon PA with 2300 Hammer Spring
- 10" .177 Barrel with Crosman Long Steel Breech
- Extended Probe Bolt with Mellon Handle
- LPA Rear Site
- Disco Front Site on top of an Unknown LDC
- FC Dark Walnut Grips (currently not on as I am waiting for the stain to dry) The good ole Sticky Grips adorn her now!
I shot this puppy outside earlier today without the LDC and CRAP! I forgot how loud these pistols are!! Sounded like a .22 LR went off. I put it away and then found this LDC tonight, so I will try again tomorrow for accuracy and speed.
you shot a puppy outside why ???
just kidding.thats what i thought when i first read this
looks good range report when you get a chance please ;)
my 2300 has a disco valve with pro top on it.it sounds like its shooting fast havent chronied it yet hopefully tomorrow but my stock 1377 was dropping nutters with no problem and the 2300 with 10" barrel they just shake their heads when hit and run off.
thought with the disco valve it would be more powerful and has proved differently
Quote from: 1377x on November 19, 2012, 05:50:15 AM
you shot a puppy outside why ???
just kidding.thats what i thought when i first read this
I read it the same way, but got it after the double take. I'm glad, too because I draw the line at baby ducklings. ;)
Quote from: Davio on November 19, 2012, 07:17:07 AM
I read it the same way, but got it after the double take. I'm glad, too because I draw the line at baby ducklings. ;)
I'm not much into shooting anything these days and never had to shoot a dog. Dang, I think I cried when Old Yella got put down!
You should hear me talk!! I am always getting into trouble for saying things wrong and people taking them the wrong way...........If I am lucky, I see their face contort and then explain myself. Writing was always my saving grace, but now it looks like I'm merging talking and writing.....a babbling idiot I am ;) [size=78%] [/size] Honest Guys, my heart is in the right place!
Dang, though come to think of it, I sure did start many a fight in my younger days without even trying. ;D ;D
Tater & Ark :-* :-*
Another cobbled together shooter. This time a 2250B which will eventually get the Outdoorsman Stock (if I ever get around to finish fitting it).
2250B Tube and Valve
Standard Trigger Frame
18" .22 Barrel with Arkmaker LDC
Crosman Short Steel Breech
Brass Extended Probe Bolt (looks like Airgunsmith?) and Mellon Bolt Handle
Barska 2x7x20 Scope
Standard Stock with RB Grips Walnut Insert (for now until Outdoorsman Stock is ready).
Testing to come shortly.
Rich
Just resealed a beautiful old girl.
I love the cast pump handles on these 105/106's. The valves are interesting too, in that the stems unscrew making changing the valve seal super simple. Adjustable piston too!
Quote from: arkmaker on November 19, 2012, 01:50:09 PM
I'm not much into shooting anything these days and never had to shoot a dog. Dang, I think I cried when Old Yella got put down!
You should hear me talk!! I am always getting into trouble for saying things wrong and people taking them the wrong way...........If I am lucky, I see their face contort and then explain myself. Writing was always my saving grace, but now it looks like I'm merging talking and writing.....a babbling idiot I am ;) [size=78%] [/size] Honest Guys, my heart is in the right place!
Dang, though come to think of it, I sure did start many a fight in my younger days without even trying. ;D ;D
it was just the wording
i posted a video a several years ago here i made a homemade scope camera the only thing i had to put in the crosshairs was a cat on a garage about 20 yards away the video cuts of and must have left the impression the cat was about to get shot.i didnt shoot the cat and got some replies saying i hope youdidnt shoot the cat but i put in the disclaimer before posting no cats/animals were harmed making this video ;D ;D
you made me crack up with the fight thing.that had to be rough ;) ;D ;D
arkmaker- Fine looking 2250B and I really like that stand ;)
DJammer- Wow, stunning vintage pistol :-*
DJammer, that's a really nice looking old shooter. :-*
got my phase 2 1377 assembled
a friend of mine was over today,after i got done assembling the phase 2 1377 i had to shoot it to make sure evertything was ok he was standing there when i let a pellet fly after 10 pumps.he said geez is that the same gun you used to shoot a long time ago ,i said yep!
he then said why does it sound like a .22lr? i had to show him attached the accustoms shroud and fired another shot he said thats what it used to sound like what is that?
it was fun seeing his reaction to the unshrouded shot. next is to put the pdp3 red dot on him
Quote from: DJammer on November 19, 2012, 04:57:04 PM
Just resealed a beautiful old girl.
I love the cast pump handles on these 105/106's. The valves are interesting too, in that the stems unscrew making changing the valve seal super simple. Adjustable piston too!
Nice one, DJ. I really like the old one piece grips, too.
Finally got a chance to take a few pics of what I did to my 1377 the other day:
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/Pics002.jpg)
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/Pics003.jpg)
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/Pics004.jpg)
Polished the grip frame (just what you can see of it), turned out decent but now it needs some different furniture...
nice job!
I've been seriously playing around with a camo idea for grips over the past few days. Basically clear grips with the color on the back side.
The ivory grips and a second color (tobacco amber) are down pat. These are a bit more of a challenge.
I'll share a picture of the 2nd prototype, but just don't throw the rocks too hard just yet. ;) These are 100% better than the first stab at it (which was only promising), but best of all I got answers to my own questions and the next one(s) should be what I am after. This 2nd set has a refractive problem (tiny bubbles) that I thought was caused by one thing, but now know it is another.
I'll post the final version later (after turkey day and weekend since I'll be on the road).
This stuff is fun to me. :)
and the other new color...
and finally... I powder coated the .177 bb (and dart) smooth barrel for the Kung Fu Panda build to match the ivory grips. BTW, it will be a 2250 with forearm as well.
Keep working on the camo. That is something I think some of us would be interested in. A little more flat on the yellow would suit my tastes. The flat green and flat brown came out great!
Careful on the road!!!
Rich
Off topic, but I have that exact same washing machine rangerfredbob. :D
Quote from: Tater on November 20, 2012, 04:09:55 PM
Off topic, but I have that exact same washing machine rangerfredbob. :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Davio on November 20, 2012, 10:38:42 AM
and finally... I powder coated the .177 bb (and dart) smooth barrel for the Kung Fu Panda build to match the ivory grips. BTW, it will be a 2250 with forearm as well.
I love it Kung Fu Panda build, can't wait to see that :-* :-*
Quote from: arkmaker on November 20, 2012, 02:00:53 PM
Keep working on the camo. That is something I think some of us would be interested in. A little more flat on the yellow would suit my tastes. The flat green and flat brown came out great!
Careful on the road!!!
Rich
I agree on the yellow, but just testing at this point. They are hand painted from the backside so it is easy to change colors and shapes of pattern. Damn shame camo tape is sticky on the back side! ;D
What about a medium to dark gray for a colored grip?
nice work don't suppose you could cast some rubber type grips like pachmayr ones i recon any body who could supply such a grip to suit the 22xx range at an affordable price would be very busy
ped
+1 to ped's comment....
Quote from: ped on November 20, 2012, 08:44:22 PM
nice work don't suppose you could cast some rubber type grips like pachmayr ones i recon any body who could supply such a grip to suit the 22xx range at an affordable price would be very busy
ped
I don't see why not. Wish I had a Pachmayr to get a Durometer reading from. If they are real soft, it may need to be a hard grip base with a softer insert / overlay (2nd piece).
I'll be getting to other designs before long (not so much like Crosman grips).
Pachmayr type grips are approx 70 Durometer, here's a table that compares common items for reference, :-*
Please send my new rubber grips to... :D ;D ;D ;D
SHORE A SHORE / D MATERIAL COMPARISON EXAMPLES
0 Very soft, flesh like (baby's bottom)
10 Very soft, rubbery
20 Soft (rubber bands)
30 Medium soft (art gum eraser, bathtub caulk)
40 Firm (red rubber pencil eraser)
50 5 Bungee strap, auto radiator hose
60 15 Vinyl feet for chairs, sneaker sole
70 25 Vinyl garden hose, rubber ducky
80 35 Extension cord plug, Tupperware
90 45 Vinyl watch strap
100 55 Rubber printing press rollers
65 Skate wheels, polyethylene
75 Computer housings, ABS
85 Very hard
95 Kitchen counter laminate
i'd be more than happy to field test them if you manage to make them :)
ped
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Snaper/3xstorm.jpg)..
What it needs is a Star Wars StormTrooper flashlight Mr. Davio :-* Best regards.
Quote from: crossliner on November 20, 2012, 11:55:40 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Snaper/3xstorm.jpg)..
What it needs is a Star Wars StormTrooper flashlight Mr. Davio :-* Best regards.
Too funny ;D
But if I spotlight a tree rat, he raises his wee little hands to block the glare, and then I shoot him with a dart doing 500 fps... will it pin his palms to his forehead? :D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: crossliner on November 20, 2012, 11:55:40 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Snaper/3xstorm.jpg)..
What it needs is a Star Wars StormTrooper flashlight Mr. Davio :-* Best regards.
These are awesome who did them?
Quote from: crossliner on November 20, 2012, 11:55:40 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Snaper/3xstorm.jpg)..
What it needs is a Star Wars StormTrooper flashlight Mr. Davio :-* Best regards.
That's right CL, aren't you a dealer of these flashlights?
I would love to get more info about what's available and the lums (if that's right).
Quote from: 0351_Vet on November 21, 2012, 12:28:19 AM
That's right CL, aren't you a dealer of these flashlights?
I would love to get more info about what's available and the lums (if that's right).
Me too :) Got the scope on my M4 zeroed in today, sweet shootin little gun :) :)
No Mr. Vet and Mr. BE they are cerakoted SolarForce/Surefire pieces..Best regards.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?323335-Cerakote-pics-thread-All-lights-brands-and-shops-lets-see-them (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?323335-Cerakote-pics-thread-All-lights-brands-and-shops-lets-see-them)!
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/ (http://www.malkoffdevices.com/)
Quote from: crossliner on November 21, 2012, 02:43:09 AM
No Mr. Vet and Mr. BE they are cerakoted SolarForce/Surefire pieces..Best regards.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?323335-Cerakote-pics-thread-All-lights-brands-and-shops-lets-see-them (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?323335-Cerakote-pics-thread-All-lights-brands-and-shops-lets-see-them)!
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/ (http://www.malkoffdevices.com/)
Wow! Now I have seen it all, a forum for flashlights!!!!! :o
Yes Mr. BE..Some of the guys there spend $30k in less than 6 mos to feed their habit..I think the most expensive piece is the TRI V at almost $3k if you are not a member of the forum. Best regards.
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/ (http://www.malkoffdevices.com/)
Quote from: BigErn on November 21, 2012, 02:46:08 AM
Wow! Now I have seen it all, a forum for flashlights!!!!! :o
... used to be the candles forum... ;D
Haha exactly Mr. Davio 8)
Mr. BE I know you are fond of tan I have rather had 1 in my collection but around 19 of my babies ( all in pristine condition) got stolen I am still having a hard time accepting it up to now..It is a Solarforce w/ an L2 ECR single CR 123/RCR 123 body equipped w/ an R5 module so it's super bright..Solarforce flashlights are like Crosmans cheap and easy to upgrade. Best regards.
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(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_3264.jpg)
Here he is beside my Surefire Z2 also w/ an upgraded R5 led module module.
I made this aluminum (aluminium to some of you) thingy. I'm going to let you guess it's purpose, but will say that it is the same diameter as a 12g powerlet, and is to be used with a gun I currently own. Also, although it is cylindrical, it is not an unmentionable or otherwise illegal device.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/StandAlone.jpg)
Quote from: YSYEO on November 25, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
I made this aluminum (aluminium to some of you) thingy. I'm going to let you guess it's purpose, but will say that it is the same diameter as a 12g powerlet, and is to be used with a gun I currently own. Also, although it is cylindrical, it is not an unmentionable or otherwise illegal device.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/StandAlone.jpg)
I'm guess a forward M4 vertical Power-let holder, piped back to the valve,
so you have twice the gas on-board and ready to roll. :-*
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: BigErn on November 21, 2012, 02:46:08 AM
Wow! Now I have seen it all, a forum for flashlights!!!!! :o
Quote from: Davio on November 21, 2012, 02:51:46 AM
... used to be the candles forum... ;D
You guys seriously had me laughing out loud here. Thanks!!! :-* :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: 0351_Vet on November 25, 2012, 05:44:36 PM
I'm guess a forward M4 vertical Power-let holder, piped back to the valve,
so you have twice the gas on-board and ready to roll. :-*
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
It's actually a much simpler accessory for my 160. It fits like this when in use:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/InLine.jpg)
It let's me shoot with one powerlet without the dead space in and around the empty dummy cart that is usually used to charge with a single powerlet.
That is a fantastic part :-*
Quote from: YSYEO on November 25, 2012, 05:19:16 PM
I made this aluminum (aluminium to some of you) thingy. I'm going to let you guess it's purpose, but will say that it is the same diameter as a 12g powerlet, and is to be used with a gun I currently own. Also, although it is cylindrical, it is not an unmentionable or otherwise illegal device.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/StandAlone.jpg)
there is no such thing as an illegal device that looks like that in the US not unless you mean pipe bXmX
if its the other thing you are talking about its a restricted device to correct not illegal
I polished the trigger parts on my PC77 and added an empty 22LR shell as a spring guide... the trigger needs more work, but it is better.
Installed a brass trigger and safety from GMAC on my 2400KT - nice stuff ... :-*
Finally ran out of bedliner! I did all my bedliner projects with the same can :o Oh well, at least I was able to do up one last set of grips. These are the 1701 grips from Crosman. They look great! I'm surprised more of you guys aren't using them to replace the fake wood 13xx/22xx grips.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img231/4351/dscn1835f.jpg)
Ernesto! What's the part number of those grips?
Me need e'm bad :D
Quote from: BDS on November 28, 2012, 04:12:44 PM
Ernesto! What's the part number of those grips?
Me need e'm bad :D
Here you go B. They were under $2.00 each, I got two pairs.
1700-031
1700-032
Thx Ern :-*
My son in law gave me a nice piece of birch so i made a stand like Arkmaker's. I still have to put a finish on it but i have to wait until rain stops to do it.
pc
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0359.jpg)
Quote from: PC77 on November 28, 2012, 06:04:31 PM
My son in law gave me a nice piece of birch so i made a stand like Arkmaker's. I still have to put a finish on it but i have to wait until rain stops to do it.
pc
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0359.jpg)
Nice!!!!
Dig the stand :-*
One of these days I'll have to make some kinda deal with ya ;)
Good stuff there....I like it. :-*
Thank's for the kind words. I had fun making it. I have parts cut to make another one. I took another pic of it with my PC77 carbine on it.
pc
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1080.jpg)
That's a nice stand you made there PC.Saw you have the Crosman power adjuster on that 22xx how is that working for you.I was wondering because I bought one and have yet to use it.
To be honest i thought it shot better with out the powder adjuster. With the powder adjuster turned all the way in their is a noticeable increase in powder but it also makes it a gas hog. My 2240 shoots pretty good with it screwed out 3/4 the way out. I want to work with it more when i get a longer barrel and a chrono.
pc
i cold blued a barrel today messed up a couple times but the end result was a rich blue barrel.kinda reminds me of the black hair drawn in anime drawings where the hair is blue also
the barrel is covered wellcant see any bare metal.its just that the color is not the black i was expecting but a dark blue and when you look at it from different directions the blue color is really noticable.but i can say when i was rinsing and using the very fine steel wool no bluing rubbed of i used a white towel and it stayed white.right now its soking in motor oil overnight will see what it looks like in the am
Thanks for the info something to think about ,I am going to put a 1322 barrel on my 2240 just as soon as I put the new barrel on my 1322.
1377x,
What cold blue priduct did you use? The last time I tried some, I used Birchwood Casey's Perma Blue and it never would get dark. It is still a light grey.
Cheers,
Same experience I had with Casey's Permanent Blue....just kind of darkened it a little.
Ed,
Nevermind. I see in another thread you used the same product I did.
Cheers,
yeah i used the same stuff
it got dark but not black its a blue color no grey
the experiment barrel is grey and only 2 coats.the matal can be seen also
the blue barrel is about 7-10 coates i lost count and just kept going until it wouldnt get any darker and i couldnt see any metal
i'll take pics when i get home in about an hour
i heated the barrel before applying the bluing solution and followed the instructions on the bottle
it was clean and degrease saturated swab but i used a rag .wiped it on the barrel left it for a minute as the instructions said.rinsed with cold water dried with towel polished with steel wool.then cleaned degreased ,heated barrel added blue 1 minute later rinsed wiped dry polished with steel wool and repeated the process until i couldnt see the metal any more.
then i rinsed dried poilshed with steel wool heated motor oil heated barrel soaked barrel over night now when i get home i'll see what that did
i know i used a white towel to dry and no blue came off.i think the heat has something to do with the blue sticking
Quotei think the heat has something to do with the blue sticking
It must have because the heat is the only thing you did differently than I did. I just didn't use any heat as there was absolutely no mention if heat in the directions on the bottle. I may have to try it again using the heat gun.
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on November 29, 2012, 09:26:02 PM
Ed,
Nevermind. I see in another thread you used the same product I did.
Cheers,
I have a bottle of Van's Instant Blue en route. I will try to blue one of my Crosman pistol and report in a serperate thread. I understand adding heat from a hair dryer or heat gun can help the blue work it's magic a bit better.
Birchwood Casey and Blue Wonder products provided mediocre results.
the bc blue i used i had around for a few years i am surprised it even worked
but i looked at my barrel today wiped the oil off still the bluing stuck :-*
it has a blacker tint today but the blu color can still be seen
i am satisfied with the results it looks a lot better than the faded bluing from crosman
i took pics dont know how good they are cant take any more because the barrel is enroute to the new owner.i'll post the pics when i get them uploaded.this is my first real attempt at cold bluing where i actually followed the instructions and added my own from info i found on the web
with just a few coats its a grey see through color you can still see the metal through the bluing.someone did a cold bluing job not long ago and stated they could still through the blue it faded or something.
cant say how long the bc blue lasts because i no longer have the barrel.once i saw it wanst coming off that was good enough for me and the buyer knows the same thing.should have made a video instead now that i think about it
Had my 2 grip frames, bb and other aluminum items bead blasted by 1 of my friends for a free lunch.. The 3rd one and his accompanying barrel band being in Manila for copying via cnc..Dang the guy to do it is still in Europe but he will be here before X'mas I can wait >:(....Btw I have already delivered my babies to the new powder coating co. located 5 minutes away from my place :D Finally because the other co. refuses to accept even airgun parts :-X..Very cheap for around $5.00 ???
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4399.jpg)
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(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4401.jpg)
I think w/ this finish even a not so good paint will adhere well. This is so much better than sanding imho. Best regards.
Quote from: crossliner on November 30, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
Had my 2 grip frames, bb and other aluminum items bead blasted by 1 of my friends for a free lunch.. The 3rd one and his accompanying barrel band being in Manila for copying via cnc..Dang the guy to do it is still in Europe but he will be here before X'mas I can wait >:(....Btw I have already delivered my babies to the new powder coating co. located 5 minutes away from my place :D Finally because the other co. refuses to accept even airgun parts :-X..Very cheap for around $5.00 ???
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4399.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4400.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4401.jpg)
I think w/ this finish even a not so good paint will adhere well. This is so much better than sanding imho. Best regards.
Very very nice, sure beats sanding the grip frames down.
I may go down that route myself.
Gary
Indeed Mr. Droid. My grips/bbs were painted by a pro airbrush artist and they were nice to look at but not durable so I had them blasted clean. Best regards.
Finally might be done with the 1377. Lots of money in a 60 dollar pistol. Fun though and she shoots pretty good :-*(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20121130165925446.jpg)(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20121130165849496.jpg)(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20121130165750736.jpg) As far as work today I added a mellon air flat top piston , ported valve , solid hammer, 1701 grip frame with 2 stage trigger,sweet, aluminum tube and breech plug and the grips I got on the for sale page here from airgungrips.
60 dollar pistol? Where? I'll buy it!!! I don't believe there is such a thing as a 60 dollar Crosman pistol!! ;D
Seriously, nice work on the 1377 :-* :-*
They start out at that price ;) but never stay there for long ;D ;D ;D
Man ain't that the truth. Actually I bought it on Craigslist for 20 bucks. Now all I need is to talk Rich at airgrips into making me a burl pump handle to match the grips.
That's even better :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on December 01, 2012, 03:17:27 AM
Man ain't that the truth. Actually I bought it on Craigslist for 20 bucks. Now all I need is to talk Rich at airgrips into making me a burl pump handle to match the grips.
Very nice. Look forward to seeing it again with the burl walnut pump handle :-*
heres some pics of the barrel i cold blued the other day i think its called birchwood casey if its not its close to it i know the casey is right
not an easy task working with cold blue
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/PICT0125-1-1.jpg)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/PICT0124-1-1.jpg)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/PICT0115-2-1.jpg)
its the best i could do the barrel is gone so i cant take any better more pics
From the pics it looks really good :-*
Did that start out down to bare metal? Wow that came out great!
Yeah, looks very good. :-*
For months i have had a old first version of the 760 apart i started preping the barrel for polishing and all the metel for paint. I rebuilt the brass valve.Hope to get it back together soon.
Mike
Quote from: Fronzdan on December 01, 2012, 05:50:55 AM
Did that start out down to bare metal? Wow that came out great!
i used the blue remover that came with the kit but it still had a slight tint.i used some 2000 grit sand paper to work out the sctratches then fine steelwool to blend the scratches from the sandpaper.the kit came with a small piece of sandpaper that didnt feel as aggressive as the 2k grit cloth backed sandpaper i used, then started the process.
after the results i got the bashing of cold bluing stopped
a few coats will not get the desired results,it's a tedious process
used almost the whole bottle of blue on a 16" barrel.
the first time i used the bc cold bluing kit i didnt use heat and only applied a few coats and the results were disappointing same with the second time
still scared to tackle a bigger piece like a tube but when i get a bigger bottle of cold bluing,i'll see what happen.
another thing i did was applied it in one direction,when i went back and forth with the blue soaked towel i got streaks and had to start over >:(
i have no experience well very very litle experience this being like the third time i used it,using the info i found online about cold bluing the most valuable being the heating of the part to be cold blued.i have no idea if heating the oil for soaking the end results had any effect but i did it just in case
when you are drying the coats with a towel and the bluing comes off then somewhere something went wrong.for degreasing i used plain unsented,non-colored dish soap , no lotions,iirc its for sensitive hands and no other additives are used.cold water rinse well thats in the instruction
oh almost forgot wear nitrile gloves i got mine from harborfreight 5 or 6 mil not the 3mil
Thanks for all the info Ed! I'll have to give it another try.
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on December 01, 2012, 06:04:32 PM
Thanks for all the info Ed! I'll have to give it another try.
Cheers,
wont hurt to try
i found a lot of different tutorials around the web from ag forums to youtube
the one thing they all had in common was heat
i know i heated my barrel with a heat gun it was hotter then me as i touched the top of my hand until i felt it was hotter than my hand not warm but slightly hot so it would stay warm longer if that makes sense
in the gta library there is a tutorial and use google or youtube both
i am betting getting it cleaned before and between coats helped thats what the directions said to do so i did it
and a lot of coats as said before a few wont do it go about 10 or more .dont stop until the desired results or close to it are achieved
When i cold blue i get a big pile of cotton balls ready as well as a pile of blue shop paper towels cut into 2 inch x 2 inch squares then i prep as directed at this point i put rubber gloves on and prep again with acetone based nail polish remover. I apply the bluing with cotton balls but only a few stokes then i get a new cotton ball. Then i buff the metal with the shop towels remove all the oxidation at this i don't rinse the metal with water i re apply bluing again and buff with paper towels. I do this over and over until i get the color i want with no shading. Use lots of cotton balls and paper towels if you want to use steel wool use synthetic steel wool. Then i rinse with water and oil the metal. The best cold bluing that i have used is Brownell's Oxpho-Blue you can even have a small amount of oil on the metal and it won't affect the bluing.
pc
Well today I went to my shop started to plane a board of oak(warped bad)threw it in the junk pile told the customer his board was junk,had a beer,eye caugut the metal lathe,stood at it,had a beer,decided what gun pat to make and went in my bin for materials,had a beer,a friend dropped by so I had a beer,went back looked at lathe,had a beer,chucked metal in lathe had a beer,another friend dropped by had beer, got ready to turn couldn't see vernier had a beer was ready to call it a day had a beer another friend stopped by had a beer decided to to come in the house and make spagettii sauce and have a beer.......Moral of the story........worked on my elbow :)
Dang, that sounded like a lot of hard work....have a beer ;D
Refinished a Palmgren angle vise.
Quote from: cmj21973 on December 01, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
Refinished a Palmgren angle vise.
Vise looks excellent. I like refinishng stuff.
WOw, very nice! I've not see one of those in a long time :-*
good job on the vise! :-* 8)
Nice job on the vice. :-* I could have one of those yesterday.
pc
Showed my 2240 some love today. I made a new bolt handle, Brass safety and some plastic trigger shims. Got the trigger tightened up also polished it and filled the grips with duct seal.
pc
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_3411.jpg)
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More custom parts for the M-rod.
This time a fully adjustable Match style trigger to fit within OEM block.
All OEM internal trigger adjustments stayed intact.
Billet trigger group adjusts forward & back or sideways if wanted, & Shoe can rotate too :-*
Looks like one sweet trigger. Put the crosman p-rod trigger on my 1377 this weekend and have to say it is the best mod so far. This trigger gets insainly light.
Very nice stuff there PC77 and cool looking trigger Motorhead.
Motorhead, Now that is a trigger! Is that a set trigger in front?
pc
Quote from: PC77 on December 03, 2012, 02:07:26 AM
Motorhead, Now that is a trigger! Is that a set trigger in front?
pc
Safety ...
Thanks ... Fun project for a rainy Sunday afternoon
did a whole lot today
converted my OOGIE BOOGIE tank to straight release air by removing the pin and spring from the bonnet/piston of the hpa tank
found i have a leak that wasnt present when it was running on co2 with the higher pressure the air slips right on through.figured that was going to happen because i forgot about the trigger group mounting hole and pushed the o-rings past it like it wasnt there
so i have to take it apart and put new o-rings in
need a gun to go pesting with so i put my don cothran/workinmanva stainless 2260pcp togetther using the the .22 24" croaman barrel
OMG!!! that thing sounds like a 9mm not a 22lr that has nothing on my dc/wmva combo it blew threw a 3/4in piece of cedar deck flooring like it was hot butter at 5m put my A STOREY LDC on it what a joke now it sounds like a .22lr down from a 9mm
im going to post a thread as soon as i load pics up
Quote from: 1377x on December 03, 2012, 05:13:42 AM
did a whole lot today
converted my OOGIE BOOGIE tank to straight release air by removing the pin and spring from the bonnet/piston of the hpa tank
found i have a leak that wasnt present when it was running on co2 with the higher pressure the air slips right on through.figured that was going to happen because i forgot about the trigger group mounting hole and pushed the o-rings past it like it wasnt there
so i have to take it apart and put new o-rings in
need a gun to go pesting with so i put my don cothran/workinmanva stainless 2260pcp togetther using the the .22 24" croaman barrel
OMG!!! that thing sounds like a 9mm not a 22lr that has nothing on my dc/wmva combo it blew threw a 3/4in piece of cedar deck flooring like it was hot butter at 5m put my A STOREY LDC on it what a joke now it sounds like a .22lr down from a 9mm
im going to post a thread as soon as i load pics up
Sounds like he is fleeing better.
i was feeling better after some much needed assistance ;)
next i couldnt bend over without getting a head rush so employed some help from my nieces to get parts off the floor when they fell
OOGIE BOOGIE he's not feeling so good leaking out the bleed hole means tube sealing o-rings arent doing their job should be an easy fix now that i have dowcorning 111 silicone lube
gotta shine up my stainless steel 10/22 barrel for the new owner busy day tomorrow after my doctors' appointments
Put a backward slant on the forestock of the Winchester. I always wanted a stock like that and I didn't really like the rounded front of the stock before. What do you guys think, did I screw up a nice stock ???
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8467/dscn1842g.jpg)
Today I have removed paint from one half of my Mac1 LD, wow that Imron paintwork takes some shifting.
Gary
Quote from: BigErn on December 03, 2012, 04:09:23 PM
Put a backward slant on the forestock of the Winchester. I always wanted a stock like that and I didn't really like the rounded front of the stock before. What do you guys think, did I screw up a nice stock ???
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8467/dscn1842g.jpg)
imo... No, it looks great. :-*
definitely appeals to me, it has that "in motion" look while sitting still. Well done :-*
I've always liked the forward slant on the forend! Looks cool.
Yeah! Like a upside down tiger shark with those cool slits down the forearm. :-*
looks good bigern! 8)
did the same thing to my ruger 10/22 factory stock
not had much time to tinker much but i've managed to fit a new butt pad to my as2550 hpa and rebuild my xs79 hpa into its new custom stock(thanks sean)
ped
i started making a wood stock when my saw took a dump.gota go to the store and get a new one or borrow one from a friend
Quote from: crossliner on November 30, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
Had my 2 grip frames, bb and other aluminum items bead blasted by 1 of my friends for a free lunch.. The 3rd one and his accompanying barrel band being in Manila for copying via cnc..Dang the guy to do it is still in Europe but he will be here before X'mas I can wait >:(....Btw I have already delivered my babies to the new powder coating co. located 5 minutes away from my place :D Finally because the other co. refuses to accept even airgun parts :-X..Very cheap for around $5.00 ???
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I think w/ this finish even a not so good paint will adhere well. This is so much better than sanding imho. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4402.jpg)
Here they are post powder coat..I paid $4.76 for the 2 grips, bb and some flashlight items ain't that cheap? Because the items were bead blasted the finish is somewhat spartan in appearance but I tested its toughness by hammering its inside portion and yes it's very tough indeed. Best regards.
Quote from: crossliner on December 06, 2012, 12:37:18 AM
Quote from: crossliner on November 30, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
Had my 2 grip frames, bb and other aluminum items bead blasted by 1 of my friends for a free lunch.. The 3rd one and his accompanying barrel band being in Manila for copying via cnc..Dang the guy to do it is still in Europe but he will be here before X'mas I can wait >:(....Btw I have already delivered my babies to the new powder coating co. located 5 minutes away from my place :D Finally because the other co. refuses to accept even airgun parts :-X..Very cheap for around $5.00 ???
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4399.jpg)
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I think w/ this finish even a not so good paint will adhere well. This is so much better than sanding imho. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4402.jpg)
Here they are post powder coat..I paid $4.76 for the 2 grips, bb and some flashlight items ain't that cheap? Because the items were bead blasted the finish is somewhat spartan in appearance but I tested its toughness by hammering its inside portion and yes it's very tough indeed. Best regards.
Looks great and yes much easier than sanding good job!! :-*
I think it looks great too. Sorta like a "hammered finish" ( I think there's a paint for that).
chronied my dc2260pcp beast
started cutting a stock
re-sealed my Oogie Boogie.found out the o-rings should have never been damaged in the first place.they were damaged because of operator error(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-gen069.gif)
who let this guy work on these guns anyhow :P ;D ;D
my nephew said why do you keep doing it that way ???,you keep messing up.try it this way
oh glad i thought of it i told him ;D ;D
Thanks gents and yes the powder coating looks a bit wrinkly in appearance..I opted for the semi matte finish and this is what came out. Had I sanded it it would look smoother but the bead blasting process makes the paint adhere much better. Best regards.
Polished the trigger on the 2240, changed the grips, put a black trigger shoe, and free floated the barrel :)
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2452/dscn1863vv.jpg)
Quote from: BigErn on December 06, 2012, 05:29:56 PM
Polished the trigger on the 2240, changed the grips, put a black trigger shoe, and free floated the barrel :)
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2452/dscn1863vv.jpg)
wow that looks good!
you should get a 2300 tube get rid of that roll stamping .the gun looks to good to see that
Very cool, and a nice picture :-*
QuoteVery cool, and a nice picture :-*
ditto!
Except for not being able to see the business end. Probably because he doesn't have a .17 cal light to light up the bore like in the popular gun magazines. That would make a fancy pic. Where can you get one of those? Maybe a SMALL LED and VERY small battery? Anyone have any ideas?
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on December 06, 2012, 07:18:48 PM
ditto!
Except for not being able to see the business end. Probably because he doesn't have a .17 cal light to light up the bore like in the popular gun magazines. That would make a fancy pic. Where can you get one of those? Maybe a SMALL LED and VERY small battery? Anyone have any ideas?
Cheers,
It's just fiber optic tube
Quote from: BigErn on December 06, 2012, 05:29:56 PM
Polished the trigger on the 2240, changed the grips, put a black trigger shoe, and free floated the barrel :)
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2452/dscn1863vv.jpg)
Well done Ern, are those your "sanded" grips or Benji grips?
Quote from: 1377x
wow that looks good!
you should get a 2300 tube get rid of that roll stamping .the gun looks to good to see that
Good idea Ed! Is the 2300 tube longer and do you need a different end cap?
Quote from: BDS = date=1354818574
Well done Ern, are those your "sanded" grips or Benji grips?
Those are the sanded ones B. I ran out of TBL so I couldn't finish the second set. The other set is on the 1322 now along with the backpacker pump arm.
They look good Ern.
I just completely disassembled my project 1377, took out the piston and valve and will be flat topping it, going to make my own piston... we'll see how that goes, I have some ideas...
Those grips do look very cool nice build :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: BigErn on December 06, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
Those are the sanded ones B. I ran out of TBL so I couldn't finish the second set. The other set is on the 1322 now along with the backpacker pump arm.
You (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/images/smilies/buttrock.gif)
Quote from: BigErn on December 06, 2012, 05:29:56 PM
Polished the trigger on the 2240, changed the grips, put a black trigger shoe, and free floated the barrel :)
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2452/dscn1863vv.jpg)
Holy Cow That looks GREAT
Started moving stuff into my new shop today
made a wood stock today using a jig saw and dremel
still a work in progress just needs to be function for now when i do it more and more than i'll care about perfection
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on December 07, 2012, 10:59:30 PM
Started moving stuff into my new shop today
There is no better move than into a new shop. Have fun, brother. :-*
Quote from: Davio on December 08, 2012, 06:41:47 AM
There is no better move than into a new shop. Have fun, brother. :-*
If it don't kill me 1st ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: 1377x on December 08, 2012, 04:55:32 AM
made a wood stock today using a jig saw and dremel
still a work in progress just needs to be function for now when i do it more and more than i'll care about perfection
No picture, it didn't happen ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: chongman on December 09, 2012, 05:36:33 AM
No picture, it didn't happen ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D
if i remember on monday i'll take oics
gearing up for a snow storm lasting tonite thru tomorrow evening
The little family is growing. Here's some ivory grips so fresh I haven't even fine sanded the edge flash yet. No checkering, completely solid and ambidextrous.
I just painted my 760 and jacked it up so i need to strip it down again and start over. It's really not that bad but i want it perfect because it's a old one with the wood goodied. Oh well back to the shop.
Mike
Quote from: Davio on December 12, 2012, 01:01:54 PM
The little family is growing. Here's some ivory grips so fresh I haven't even fine sanded the edge flash yet. No checkering, completely solid and ambidextrous.
Those grips look fantastic :-*
Quote from: Crosshairs on December 12, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
I just painted my 760 and jacked it up so i need to strip it down again and start over. It's really not that bad but i want it perfect because it's a old one with the wood goodied. Oh well back to the shop.
Mike
Lol! I'm the same way Mike. I'll do something over and over again untill it's perfect. I don't mind the rework but the the time I waste just kills me.
Quote from: BigErn on December 12, 2012, 04:10:18 PM
Lol! I'm the same way Mike. I'll do something over and over again untill it's perfect. I don't mind the rework but the the time I waste just kills me.
Know the feelin
Quote from: Davio on December 12, 2012, 01:01:54 PM
The little family is growing. Here's some ivory grips so fresh I haven't even fine sanded the edge flash yet. No checkering, completely solid and ambidextrous.
how much? do forum members get a discount ;)
send me a pm
Been having a slight issue with the safety on my BlueFork frame that adorns "Stone Cold".
Removed the grip frame and the small set screw that adjust the detente ball. Seems the groove for the ball was either not deep enough or off be .010" or so. Got it all realigned and found a small spring to set on the ball. All is well again.
thats one sweet shooter!
Did some more work polishing my LD today, another month or so and I should be there ;)
i need to get some work don on my guns just dont have the time
with the recent snow fall time is short.i dont understand it but you would think that the people here have never seen snow before.people are driving like its their first time on ice.a 20 minute trip is taking 2-1/2 hours and the roads are clear >:(! chaos
Quote from: 1377x on December 13, 2012, 04:50:45 PM
i need to get some work don on my guns just dont have the time
with the recent snow fall time is short.i dont understand it but you would think that the people here have never seen snow before.people are driving like its their first time on ice.a 20 minute trip is taking 2-1/2 hours and the roads are clear >:(! chaos
Just the same over here Ed, 2 inches and we come to a standstill.
No direct jobs done on my guns today, I decided to tidy up and put all my spares in little clear boxes so that I can find them more easily.
Quote from: droid on December 13, 2012, 05:19:29 PM
Just the same over here Ed, 2 inches and we come to a standstill.
No direct jobs done on my guns today, I decided to tidy up and put all my spares in little clear boxes so that I can find them more easily.
more like 1/2" of snow and everything goes to pot,ive got a large box of bits awaiting fitting to various different builds but i'm flat out with orders ,the milling machines gone down and i'm too tired to start on anything when i get home
it doesn't help that the dog's gone gun shy either all i have to do is pick up a rifle and he freaks out
ped
tried a new ldc on my BEAST
no reportable results :-[ ;)
BRUISER didnt want to pump up today mainly because i forgot to store with a couple of pumps gotta leave it inside to warm up see if it seals then.if not then im going to rig up my scuba tank to the valve and get it to seal that way.really dont want to take it apart.
got some stainless stell banding going to make a better looking breech band for the BEAST tomorrow . in between im going to do some sanding on the stock im making.its my first attemp and already messed up but its still going to work just have some fitting and filling to do
lots of work coming tomorrow.only one appointment in the morning so the rest of the afternoon and evening is going to be for working on guns
I don't have any projects right now ???
Got to do something but everything working real good......maybe I'll swap some scopes around....
Quote from: WyoMan on December 14, 2012, 05:12:05 PM
I don't have any projects right now ???
Got to do something but everything working real good......maybe I'll swap some scopes around....
thats the best!
instead switching scopes around how about just enjoying the mas the are good to go
i wish i was to that state of being
today i try making a better looking stainless steel breech band or in my case im calling it a breech strap.hopefully i can get a breech band made
Quote from: 1377x on December 14, 2012, 05:17:26 PM
thats the best!
instead switching scopes around how about just enjoying the mas the are good to go
i wish i was to that state of being
today i try making a better looking stainless steel breech band or in my case im calling it a breech strap.hopefully i can get a breech band made
Yep, ok trigger time!!! :)
Breech band that can clamp tube to barrel - maybe set screw on bottom to force pressure between and seal up the TP?
Anyone know how to "jewel" metal? I'd love to try that on a steel breech that was polished.
Quote from: Fronzdan on December 14, 2012, 05:40:31 PM
Anyone know how to "jewel" metal? I'd love to try that on a steel breech that was polished.
Got a drill press and an indexing table?
Brownell's or Midway sell the tooling. You use small, cylinder shaped rubber abrasive rods, held in a special mandrel. This is locked in a drill press and the part is held on the press table, prefrebly in a cross slide vise. The rod is lowered onto the piece and allowed to polish a small circle. The piece is moved over about 1/2 the diameter of the first spot and lowered again.
Basically, you are putting symetrical swirls or patterns down on the metal.
Quote from: Fronzdan on December 14, 2012, 05:40:31 PM
Anyone know how to "jewel" metal? I'd love to try that on a steel breech that was polished.
Hopefully this technique carries over to steel:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5dqUIT-eo#ws]Sopwith Pup how to burnish engine turning finish in aluminum aircraft panels[/url]
This is how i jeweled my 10-22 bolt. http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/ruger-10-22/40044-prism-jeweled-bolt.html (http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/ruger-10-22/40044-prism-jeweled-bolt.html)
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Yup... and good call on the "practice" before trying on your parts etc... hate to ruin a nice shiny part!
I recently made a small brass mount to put an aperture sight on my Crosman 160, and added a scope rail to a 600.
Both were done on a small manual mill.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/Cr160ApertureFullFrontal.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%20600s/NoHoles600RailMod.jpg)
Quote from: YSYEO on December 14, 2012, 11:04:15 PM
I recently made a small brass mount to put an aperture sight on my Crosman 160, and added a scope rail to a 600.
Both were done on a small manual mill.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/Cr160ApertureFullFrontal.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%20600s/NoHoles600RailMod.jpg)
Nice work :-*
Quote from: YSYEO on December 14, 2012, 11:04:15 PM
I recently made a small brass mount to put an aperture sight on my Crosman 160, and added a scope rail to a 600.
Both were done on a small manual mill.
Yes very nice! :-* Looks that that barrel has a nice crown too!
Did you shoot Mr. Smiley's eye out - SMSEO :o
Quote from: YSYEO on December 14, 2012, 11:04:15 PM
I recently made a small brass mount to put an aperture sight on my Crosman 160, and added a scope rail to a 600.
Both were done on a small manual mill.
Very nicely done, you crafty person you.
Does your rail fit level with the 600 frame? I put one on mine and the right side casting it a wee bit taller than the left side so I resorted to shimming.
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 15, 2012, 12:20:02 AM
Very nicely done, you crafty person you.
Does your rail fit level with the 600 frame? I put one on mine and the right side casting it a wee bit taller than the left side so I resorted to shimming.
Thanks! I never noticed any unevenness. I did put a piece of black friction tape under the rail when I installed it. You can see it through the holes. I bought the rail at Walmart because it was already the right length and the holes were in the right place. The bottom was slanted for whatever it was supposed to fit. I just milled it level and installed it with the existing rear sight screw and a longer barrel grub screw with slotted nut. It's totally reversible.
Quote from: WyoMan on December 14, 2012, 11:27:05 PM
Yes very nice! :-* Looks that that barrel has a nice crown too!
Did you shoot Mr. Smiley's eye out - SMSEO :o
Thanks! The smiley is my reminder to always keep safety in mind (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
Ahhhh, the talent here is awesome!
Very cool brass sight adapter :-*
Quote from: chongman on December 15, 2012, 01:19:53 AM
Ahhhh, the talent here is awesome!
Very cool brass sight adapter :-*
Yes! And the photography here is top notch as well. You guys take some really good pics.
Quote from: YSYEO on December 14, 2012, 11:04:15 PM
I recently made a small brass mount to put an aperture sight on my Crosman 160, and added a scope rail to a 600.
Both were done on a small manual mill.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr160/Cr160ApertureFullFrontal.jpg)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%20600s/NoHoles600RailMod.jpg)
nice work :-*
;D All I have done the last 2 days is sit on my BIG OL BUTT ;D
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on December 15, 2012, 02:18:21 AM
;D All I have done the last 2 days is sit on my BIG OL BUTT ;D
Not to worry. That is what I call "the design stage". Surely you are planning something great. (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
Quote from: YSYEO on December 15, 2012, 02:43:42 AM
Not to worry. That is what I call "the design stage". Surely you are planning something great. (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
;D That's what I ment ;D LOL
Quote from: Fronzdan on December 14, 2012, 05:40:31 PM
Anyone know how to "jewel" metal? I'd love to try that on a steel breech that was polished.
watch youtube!
you can learn the right way and then the shade tree way ;)
today i worked on my homemade stock some more
its just a practice stock but it has a lot of work int it.im doing it cameman style,with a sharp rock :P
well just about.still a lot of work to do
if ihad somw actual tools instead of sandpaper,a dremel and a (dull)carving knife it would go quick but doing the way im doing it is fun.the worst thing is i made it right hand and i am a lefty :-[
when i make the good stock i know what not to do
still have to put some time into making the breech band.i have eough band to try all the ways i can
taming a 44fpe beast isnt easy but i am nearly there :-*
i'm thinking it can hold up to 50fpe easy.you will find out when i do ;)
Just finished some custom parts for one of my 1377's! Made an aluminum flat top piston to go with the flat topped valve, also made a brass pivot pin. While I had everything apart I put in the lighter O ring on the transfer port and a 22LR case in the end of the sear spring.
I'll try to get an installed pic of the piston tomorrow, it's fairly simple but took a lot of trial and error on the O ring to get the fit I wanted. I went for .020" in front of the O ring like wyoman mentioned the other day on both the piston and valve, behind the O ring I made some dimples with the tool I was making the O ring groove with to attempt to hold a little oil, was much simpler than my other ideas... I just have a 2" piece of 3/8" stainless bolt connecting the two pieces. In the process I found out the chuck is crooked on my high tech Harbor Freight drill press, and broke the blade on my cheapo band saw, it was looking a WHOLE LOT better before those issues :).
And to report on the power increase I shot into the trusty phone book, my two 1377's before shot the same depth, but now the hopped up one shoots 100 page numbers (50 pages) further than the ol phase 2 1377!
While I was there I also took some 0000 steel wool and oil and got rid of the surface rust, every time I use that trick I'm amazed how well it works without scratching anything!
sweet!
if you have a droid phone get the chrony app its pretty close to the regular chrony readings
wish i could make my own parts
soon enough i guess ;)
on way or another i'll pull a lathe out of my hat :)
Decided to put my SSP-250 back together. It has been sitting in a drawer for ages in bits. Needs some work done on the cosmetics but other than needing a doofer it is ready to go now.
I have an i-phone 3, so I don't think there'll be an app for it... but if there is... I have a coworker with a crony, might see if I can borrow it.
I had to drag my lathe home from work today to finish the work (tired of the gun sitting apart in my office at home) since I haven't had enough time at lunch to make the parts... we still need the lathe at work next week (it's been there since February I think) so I have to drag it back again on Monday...
Oh, I also changed the angle of the exhaust port in the valve, while I was there with it apart, why not go all out :)
the for the chrony app is posted here cant remember the name of the thread
use the search and type in chrony app
Quote from: 1377x on December 15, 2012, 09:44:41 AM
the for the chrony app is posted here cant remember the name of the thread
use the search and type in chrony app
Here's the thread:
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9476.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9476.0.html)
I was up until 2am last night polishing my wire stock :o
Quote from: BigErn on December 15, 2012, 03:27:13 PM
I was up until 2am last night polishing my wire stock :o
lets see it!!! :)
Quote from: 1377x on December 15, 2012, 04:43:38 PM
lets see it!!! :)
Here you go Ed. It looks much better in person, I will take some new pics soon when it's mounted!
(http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3407/dscn1883i.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img10/2583/dscn1884f.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img40/3409/dscn1887vn.jpg)
Fine work, and I enjoy a nice Pinot. RC
Quote from: RC1947 on December 15, 2012, 06:33:56 PM
Fine work, and I enjoy a nice Pinot. RC
Thanks RC :-*
No Chrono Connect for the I phone, just a simpler app for airsoft or archery (should have got the archery one, it had an energy calculator), no luck getting anything that looked reasonable out of it either, need something louder to hit at distance...
To the pics:
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/1377004.jpg)
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/1377005.jpg)
In the first one you can see the custom piston and pivot pin (all I had was a regular nut for the other side, but it isn't going to come off...), if you look close you can notice the funny looking area behind the O ring, that's the "oil rings" which seem to be working as there's still oil over there... The second pic is just an overview of the gun and my back yard...
nice work on the cusom parts! :-*
oil ring is a good idea!
maybe you build one that incorporates ans felt ring like this one
http://www.lowes.com/pd_199035-1366-35233_0__?productId=3369384&Ntt=felt+washer&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dfelt%2Bwasher&facetInfo= (http://www.lowes.com/pd_199035-1366-35233_0__?productId=3369384&Ntt=felt+washer&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dfelt%2Bwasher&facetInfo=)
Quote from: BigErn on December 15, 2012, 06:30:14 PM
Here you go Ed. It looks much better in person, I will take some new pics soon when it's mounted!
(http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3407/dscn1883i.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img10/2583/dscn1884f.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img40/3409/dscn1887vn.jpg)
good job bigern!!! :-*
you can tell a lot of work went into the shoulder piece
where did you get your stock from?
Quote from: 1377x on December 15, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
nice work on the cusom parts! :-*
oil ring is a good idea!
maybe you build one that incorporates ans felt ring like this one
http://www.lowes.com/pd_199035-1366-35233_0__?productId=3369384&Ntt=felt+washer&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dfelt%2Bwasher&facetInfo= (http://www.lowes.com/pd_199035-1366-35233_0__?productId=3369384&Ntt=felt+washer&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dfelt%2Bwasher&facetInfo=)
Thanks, that was the original idea, and will probably be incorporated into the next one. I was also going to put a second O ring in the back to help the metal on metal, had a couple other ideas I didn't have the energy to implement too :)
Quote from: rangerfredbob on December 15, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
Thanks, that was the original idea, and will probably be incorporated into the next one. I was also going to put a second O ring in the back to help the metal on metal, had a couple other ideas I didn't have the energy to implement too :)
good idea
when you see the metal pistons with delin rings or whatever delrin parts thats the reason for them
Beautiful polishing on the wire stock :-*
I like what I can see of the custom piston and know you don't want to show to much of it....yet ;)
I might be right behind you, got some brass stock...
Got it from Workinman Ed.
I don't want to show too much of it because it's ugly from my drill press, you can see how bad the hole looks that I drilled for the slot :), not to mention the oval adjustment holes... didn't help at all that the band saw spit the blade right at the end of that last cut there... Other than that it's nothing special, I didn't use one precise measurement doing the whole project, just some outside calipers (set them to the diameter of the original plastic piston just behind the seal), a ruler to get the parts at about 1 1/4" long each, left the 3/8" bolt the length it was just cut the head off, used calipers to get the diameter of the hole in the tube but just trimmed the brass until the other side of the calipers fit over... It might be the lazy way of doing it, but it's effective, just not as repeatable :).
I also thought of putting some nylon screws into the back side of the piston to use as scuffers, when I pull the piston out next time I'll do something...
BigErn that is a beautiful polish job!!! I've seen pics of Sean's stocks. They are nice, but they don't look that good! That was time well spent!!!
Quote from: BigErn on December 15, 2012, 06:30:14 PM
Here you go Ed. It looks much better in person, I will take some new pics soon when it's mounted!
Excellent polish job, BigErn. A tip for you... if you do not envision needing to adjust the stock, drill and tap the rod and install longer set screws to a]keep the adapter and butt stock from twisting out of position. I did this on my workinman straight stock and it was real solid. Set screws pushing into a round piece of stock never really holds well.
Quote from: rangerfredbob on December 15, 2012, 10:19:55 PM
I don't want to show too much of it because it's ugly from my drill press, you can see how bad the hole looks that I drilled for the slot :), not to mention the oval adjustment holes... didn't help at all that the band saw spit the blade right at the end of that last cut there... Other than that it's nothing special, I didn't use one precise measurement doing the whole project, just some outside calipers (set them to the diameter of the original plastic piston just behind the seal), a ruler to get the parts at about 1 1/4" long each, left the 3/8" bolt the length it was just cut the head off, used calipers to get the diameter of the hole in the tube but just trimmed the brass until the other side of the calipers fit over... It might be the lazy way of doing it, but it's effective, just not as repeatable :).
I also thought of putting some nylon screws into the back side of the piston to use as scuffers, when I pull the piston out next time I'll do something...
That repeatable thing always gets me, trying to make two parts exactly the same!
Quote from: rangerfredbob on December 15, 2012, 08:26:26 PM
No Chrono Connect for the I phone, just a simpler app for airsoft or archery (should have got the archery one, it had an energy calculator), no luck getting anything that looked reasonable out of it either, need something louder to hit at distance...
To the pics:
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/1377004.jpg)
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/1377005.jpg)
In the first one you can see the custom piston and pivot pin (all I had was a regular nut for the other side, but it isn't going to come off...), if you look close you can notice the funny looking area behind the O ring, that's the "oil rings" which seem to be working as there's still oil over there... The second pic is just an overview of the gun and my back yard...
You have a back yard like that??!! And your playing with pellet guns?? If I had a back yard like that, I would put a target out on the burm on the right of the picture and shoot my .22. How many acres do you have? How close is your neighbors? Get a real gun and shoot. Give the kids the pellet guns. WOW!!! what a nice back yard!!!
Finished the restoration and reassembled my 1322 Phase I.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9299.msg110896.html#msg110896 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9299.msg110896.html#msg110896)
Now I have to decide which to restore next, Mark I or Crosman 600?
That one sure is looking nice :-* :-*
Quote from: cmj21973 on December 16, 2012, 10:36:04 AM
Now I have to decide which to restore next, Mark I or Crosman 600?
I'm sure there are many that would love to have that decision to make. (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
Those are both great pistols. I'm looking forward to the restores.
Quote from: mudduck48 on December 16, 2012, 04:48:49 AM
You have a back yard like that??!! And your playing with pellet guns?? If I had a back yard like that, I would put a target out on the burm on the right of the picture and shoot my .22. How many acres do you have? How close is your neighbors? Get a real gun and shoot. Give the kids the pellet guns. WOW!!! what a nice back yard!!!
+1. That's the back yard I dream of having.
Quote+1. That's the back yard I dream of having.
+2!
Edit: Had to add the exclamation point.
Cheers,
Quote from: chongman on December 16, 2012, 03:05:51 AM
That repeatable thing always gets me, trying to make two parts exactly the same!
Don't let that get to you too much. I know firsthand that even large operations have variance.. and expect it. "Select fit" of varying pistons to crank cases is one way they found to use the problem to an advantage.
Today I did some lathe work for a CAPOF member...
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Machine%20Werks/KevinP.jpg)
Looks good chongman.
Quote from: chongman on December 17, 2012, 02:07:02 AM
Today I did some lathe work for a CAPOF member...
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Machine%20Werks/KevinP.jpg)
You are going to be great My Man. Nice work Marine. Wish I had your ability. :-* :-*
Quote from: chongman on December 17, 2012, 02:07:02 AM
Today I did some lathe work for a CAPOF member..
What are those! Holy Cawl.....pivot pins? Dang those are nice :-* :-*
Quote from: chongman on December 17, 2012, 02:07:02 AM
Today I did some lathe work for a CAPOF member...
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Machine%20Werks/KevinP.jpg)
More sweetness from the Master's lathe. :-*
You do nice work chongman
Today I installed my first FT piston and valve. Cleaned and polished the tube. Works great after a tip from 1377x on aligning the port and the threaded hole.
Also fixed an issue on a 2400 with a breech that would never lay flush with the tube. Tried a bunch of things but shaving off a little on the top half of the TP sleeve eventually did the trick. Now it tightens down nice and flat with a good seal.
I just finished test fit of the first (of many) sets of smooth ivory colored (through and through) grips. These are very comfortable and have about 50% again more material in them than the previous checkered grip (whick had nearly twice as much material in them as the plastic standard grips that come on our guns). These are ambidextrous.
You will see these on Ebay, but I will send a set to any CAPOF member for $18 including shipping. A few of you have already asked, so there it is. They will not be so cheap on the 'Bay. ;)
... and a couple more angles of them:
Quote from: mudduck48 on December 16, 2012, 04:48:49 AM
You have a back yard like that??!! And your playing with pellet guns?? If I had a back yard like that, I would put a target out on the burm on the right of the picture and shoot my .22. How many acres do you have? How close is your neighbors? Get a real gun and shoot. Give the kids the pellet guns. WOW!!! what a nice back yard!!!
Thing is that burm isn't on the property I'm on (and the neighbor's house is like 30' behind it), I think it's just over an acre but only 80' wide I think, the fence you can see on the left is one neighbor, and the property line goes to that other little piece of fence you can see on the right by the burm... standing in my back yard you can see 3 neighbors houses... So, I stick to airguns, less unwanted attention, I got turned in by someone up the street for "running an unauthorized auto repair shop" because I had a non running car sitting in front of my garage for about 6 months, turned me in before even saying anything. I like living here but the 14'x14' garage and ~800sf house make me want something bigger, with the creek there isn't room to expand if I decided to buy the place (I'm renting now). Thanks though, I do like the place, the creek and pond are kinda fun to watch in the summer (it's about a foot deeper than it's normal in that picture). I try to limit PB shooting to taking care of moles, I've gotten good with my trap but a 22lr pistol works too if you see them at the right time :)
ok, that got long winded... :)
Quote from: chongman on December 16, 2012, 03:05:51 AM
That repeatable thing always gets me, trying to make two parts exactly the same!
Try duplicating a tapered fuel cone for a gaseous fuel carburetor, it's a piece of aluminum about 5/8" diameter at the base but tapers down to about 1/4" after about 5/8", talk about a pain!!!! I got to the point of making .050" steps then freehand tapering, marking where I've been with a sharpie marker then trimming that away, then run the engine and see if it worked and chuck it up again if it needs modifying :) that's why my lathe has been at work and not on my work bench...
After making that pivot pin I remembered how nice brass is to work with, doesn't gall up the tools and near perfect finishes are a snap compared to aluminum :), I just shaped the head of my pivot pin with a file
Scroll (rotary) compressors have air gap tolerance in the millionths. Try to find a feeler gauge for that ! ;)
those grips are looking great! 8)
nice work!! :-*
Great custom work guys :-* :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 16, 2012, 01:30:33 AM
Excellent polish job, BigErn. A tip for you... if you do not envision needing to adjust the stock, drill and tap the rod and install longer set screws to a]keep the adapter and butt stock from twisting out of position. I did this on my workinman straight stock and it was real solid. Set screws pushing into a round piece of stock never really holds well.
That's a real good idea Larry! Do you know the size of the set screws on the stock?
Quote from: Davio on December 17, 2012, 08:03:18 AM
I just finished test fit of the first (of many) sets of smooth ivory colored (through and through) grips. These are very comfortable and have about 50% again more material in them than the previous checkered grip (whick had nearly twice as much material in them as the plastic standard grips that come on our guns). These are ambidextrous.
You will see these on Ebay, but I will send a set to any CAPOF member for $18 including shipping. A few of you have already asked, so there it is. They will not be so cheap on the 'Bay. ;)
Very nice looking grips :-* I'll be waiting for the nero option :-*
Quote from: chongman on December 17, 2012, 04:28:51 PM
Very nice looking grips :-* I'll be waiting for the nero option :-*
Y'all ain't seen nothing yet! ;) Good times.
I cut and crowned the 24 inch i bought from Crosman. I used a clamp on rail for a saw guide. I had valve lapping compound and brass screws. I tried using a Lee deburring tool first it worked great and it was very easy to do.
pc
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_8889.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_8949.jpg)
Cool trick with the saw guide, I have filed it away in my brain housing group :-*
Thanks i have done rifle barrels in the past (15yrs ago) i will admit i was a little worried about cutting my new barrel. :D It went good i filed and polished the cut end the Lee tool worked like a champ for the crown. I have only shot it at sixteen feet but it is shooting one hole groups. When the weather gets better i will test it at longer ranges. I got the guide idea from Midway USA how-tos.
Added a couple of handles to a pair of tommy bars for my lathe. Shown with a pair of originals.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/TommyBarHandles.jpg)
I just drilled out the ends of the empty carts and pressed them in with a plastic screw anchor.
(http://malcoproducts.com/images/products/pa.jpg)
Now that's resourceful!
I wonder what Cartman thinks of that?
Quote from: YSYEO on December 18, 2012, 06:30:03 PM
Added a couple of handles to a pair of tommy bars for my lathe. Shown with a pair of originals.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/TommyBarHandles.jpg)
I just drilled out the ends of the empty carts and pressed them in with a plastic screw anchor.
(http://malcoproducts.com/images/products/pa.jpg)
Ohhh man! You know I've got to get some plastic anchors and do that to mine...and a couple of allen wrenches.
Thanks for showing the invention :-*
I gotta ask......What's a tommy bar? ???
Quote from: arkmaker on December 19, 2012, 01:34:05 AM
I gotta ask......What's a tommy bar? ???
The little bars used to adjust some scroll chucks, or to tighten or remove the chuck from the lathe/mill.
Essentially another name for little pry bar.
(http://www.sherline.com/images/3jawart.gif)
Quote from: arkmaker on December 19, 2012, 01:34:05 AM
I gotta ask......What's a tommy bar? ???
Little pry / cheater bars for more torque from older hands.
Cartman wants to know if any carts were mistreated or injured in the making of those "tommy bars". ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Davio on December 19, 2012, 02:14:37 AM
Little pry / cheater bars for more torque from older hands.
Cartman wants to know if any carts were mistreated or injured in the making of those "tommy bars". ;D ;D ;D
Probably no different then when they put the pretzel in the chocolate M&M ;)
(http://adweek.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c51c053ef0133f1498d2e970b-450wi)
Quote from: arkmaker on December 19, 2012, 01:34:05 AM
I gotta ask......What's a tommy bar? ???
Tommy Bar, or sometimes called Billy Bar (for reasons I don't know) are used to tighten work in a chuck by rotating them in opposite directions.
Good pic. I was looking all over for a picture showing them in use and was coming up empty.
1 pic = 1000 words
Thanks guys. Just never used a chuck like that. Same principle as a hand chuck on a drill motor only with holes for leverage. Got it now! :)
seeing all this lathe worke makes me want to buy a lathe
if i find a decent looking one with somwe tooling that wasnt used in production i think i might get one here in the next few days
These dudes are fantastic. I have been buying tools from them for the past couple of months and they are very quick to get stuff to you.
http://www.littlemachineshop.com/default.php (http://www.littlemachineshop.com/default.php)
http://www.soigeneris.com/default.aspx (http://www.soigeneris.com/default.aspx)
Quote from: 1377x on December 19, 2012, 06:23:52 AM
seeing all this lathe worke makes me want to buy a lathe
if i find a decent looking one with somwe tooling that wasnt used in production i think i might get one here in the next few days
Go for it. Sparkle for me, ED. :)
Quote from: Davio on December 19, 2012, 06:59:07 AM
Go for it. Sparkle for me, ED. :)
really thinking about it
found this one listed
$800 Atlas 10x36 lathe. 110volt 1 hp motor. repainted by previous owner, looks good and runs well. qiuck change gear box, power cross feed. ways are in good shape. Well tooled: 3 and four jaw chuck, jacobs drill chuck with key, 3 boring bars, tool holders and tool post, some HSS blanks and cutting tools, center drills, allen key set, face plate with dead center. Steady rest, chuck keys, parts manual
Quote from: 1377x on December 19, 2012, 07:14:29 AM
really thinking about it
found this one listed
$800 Atlas 10x36 lathe. 110volt 1 hp motor. repainted by previous owner, looks good and runs well. qiuck change gear box, power cross feed. ways are in good shape. Well tooled: 3 and four jaw chuck, jacobs drill chuck with key, 3 boring bars, tool holders and tool post, some HSS blanks and cutting tools, center drills, allen key set, face plate with dead center. Steady rest, chuck keys, parts manual
Sounds great!
Now, is it close by or is S&H going to be astronomical?
Quote from: cmj21973 on December 19, 2012, 09:28:26 AM
Sounds great!
Now, is it close by or is S&H going to be astronomical?
its local!
its not that heavy iirc 400#-600#
the one i want is 1300 and 2500#
i have round up the nephews to move it and a friend has a truck to move it
it has tools and runs on 110v no wiring has to be done no converter boxes just plug'n'play
Just swapped out a barrel on one of my 1377s my daughter knocked it off the bench when we were shooting outside head first to the concrete. She was more upset then me but I let her do most of the work I must say she did ok. I then showed her how to put a crown on it. Hopefully that's all that happened to it.
Mike
Quote from: 1377x on December 19, 2012, 10:15:58 AM
its local!
its not that heavy iirc 400#-600#
the one i want is 1300 and 2500#
i have round up the nephews to move it and a friend has a truck to move it
it has tools and runs on 110v no wiring has to be done no converter boxes just plug'n'play
Looks like a really nice day (at least here it is) so go and get it :-*
Made a felt oiler for my piston.....if it works, will make 2 more ???
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/oiler_zpsc0e214db.jpg)
Aluma-Hyde II
Having given up on the mediocre results of cold blue kits, I decided to paint the breech, barrel, air tube and grip frame of my 2240 with Aluma-Hyde II semi gloss black air cured paint from Brownell's. The results are very, very good. I would never paint a vintage gun, but a pedestrian 2240 with lousy bluing was an appropriate candidate. When I finish a few more bits, I will post some photos of the once unloved 2240 in the Gallery.
Quote from: WyoMan on December 20, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
Made a felt oiler for my piston.....if it works, will make 2 more ???
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/oiler_zpsc0e214db.jpg)
That piston is beautiful :-*
Quote from: 1377x on December 19, 2012, 07:14:29 AM
really thinking about it
found this one listed
$800 Atlas 10x36 lathe. 110volt 1 hp motor. repainted by previous owner, looks good and runs well. qiuck change gear box, power cross feed. ways are in good shape. Well tooled: 3 and four jaw chuck, jacobs drill chuck with key, 3 boring bars, tool holders and tool post, some HSS blanks and cutting tools, center drills, allen key set, face plate with dead center. Steady rest, chuck keys, parts manual
That is a good deal on that lathe with all the tooling it comes with.Here is another good place to get tooling,I buy a lot from them----
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRHM (http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRHM)
Quote from: chongman on December 20, 2012, 03:01:02 AM
That piston is beautiful :-*
Thanks CM....but made a triple bogey on this - didn't have the groove / felt right
Oiler disintegrated, left a mess on the piston and filled the valve with primordial goo..... will redesign - another project :-*
Quote from: WyoMan on December 20, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
Made a felt oiler for my piston.....if it works, will make 2 more ???
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/oiler_zpsc0e214db.jpg)
looking good !
read your results hopefully you get it worked out
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 20, 2012, 02:30:09 AM
Aluma-Hyde II
Having given up on the mediocre results of cold blue kits, I decided to paint the breech, barrel, air tube and grip frame of my 2240 with Aluma-Hyde II semi gloss black air cured paint from Brownell's. The results are very, very good. I would never paint a vintage gun, but a pedestrian 2240 with lousy bluing was an appropriate candidate. When I finish a few more bits, I will post some photos of the once unloved 2240 in the Gallery.
Look forward to seeing some Pics Larry
tried my multi shot on air instead of co2 today with a fill of 2750psi with a reg at 800psi first mag shot 626fps down to 622fps second mag of 10 shot 622fps down to 599fps, by this time air pressure was at 1200psi
conclusion was it's a gas guzzler i swapped the hammer spring for a standard one adjusted tension till i acheived 570fps then shot 4 mags with a deviance of 12fps for 900 psi air pressure loss
much happier with these results
i then tried my new (to me)blue streak 6 pumps gave 580 fps using 11.73 gr tried 7 pumps then 8 and it was no better in fact it seemed as if it wasn't putting any more air into the valve
has the blue streak got a pressure relief valve in the pump?
ped
Quote from: droid on December 20, 2012, 09:12:59 AM
Look forward to seeing some Pics Larry
Anyone else notice the Droid packing tape over the mouth?
Self censored you "tart"? Cheeky that mate :D
Quote from: BDS on December 20, 2012, 10:18:34 PM
Anyone else notice the Droid packing tape over the mouth?
Self censored you "tart"? Cheeky that mate :D
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: BDS on December 20, 2012, 10:18:34 PM
Anyone else notice the Droid packing tape over the mouth?
Self censored you "tart"? Cheeky that mate :D
Tis a sticking plaster Brian, well spotted ;)
I just made some cool targets. ;)
"X" marks the spot.
Quote from: Davio on December 21, 2012, 01:15:53 AM
I just made some cool targets. ;)
"X" marks the spot.
Oh no you didn't!!! That's too funny, you guys crack me up ;D
:o :o :o :o
:o :o :o :o
:o :o :o :o
:o :o :o :o
Droid targets, O-NO!!
Quote from: BDS on December 20, 2012, 10:18:34 PM
Anyone else notice the Droid packing tape over the mouth?
Self censored you "tart"? Cheeky that mate :D
if i had all the guns he does stuck where they are i think i would need more than tape over my mouth.probably a bar of soap for the tape to hold in ;)
You guys kill me ;D ;D
Well you can literally now ;)
Shoot the naughty droid ;)
Quote from: droid on December 21, 2012, 08:01:54 AM
You guys kill me ;D ;D
Well you can literally now ;)
Shoot the naughty droid ;)
You're famous now! :)
Quote from: Davio on December 21, 2012, 10:24:00 AM
You're famous now! :)
That's what I thought :)
But thanks Davio, that has been making me laugh all morning ;D
Quote from: droid on December 21, 2012, 10:25:50 AM
That's what I thought :)
But thanks Davio, that has been making me laugh all morning ;D
I actually used it and like it a lot. Sometimes when I shoot at one little droid, I get a bullseye on the one next to it. Then I look around to see if anybody saw it. Nope. Dang I'm good!
Can you post the file for those Droid targets??
Ahhh !! Everyone is shooting me :D
My avatar is full of holes ;D
this is to funny!
now we have a holy droid!!!
It would be a good way to punish naughty members, they could be the target for a month ;)
Quote from: droid on December 21, 2012, 04:42:11 PM
It would be a good way to punish naughty members, they could be the target for a month ;)
theres a few member would want this avy
Quote from: droid on December 21, 2012, 04:07:50 PM
Ahhh !! Everyone is shooting me :D
My avatar is full of holes ;D
Love the holes. Dude you rock! :-* ;D
pc
Funny how first impressions work innit. With you having that avi when I joined.
We don't get that guy over here so he is my mental image of what you look like Ed, I can't help it now ;)
Quote from: droid on December 21, 2012, 05:12:40 PM
Funny how first impressions work innit. With you having that avi when I joined.
We don't get that guy over here so he is my mental image of what you look like Ed, I can't help it now ;)
;D ;D ;D
for some reason you are not alone.a lot of people associate me with that image
Quote from: droid on December 21, 2012, 12:13:55 AM
Tis a sticking plaster Brian, well spotted ;)
The only reason I know what that is is from reading "The Great Switcheroo" by Roald Dahl, the creator of Willy Wonka. He didn't just write for the kiddies.
Quote from: 1377x on December 21, 2012, 05:28:38 PM
;D ;D ;D
for some reason you are not alone.a lot of people associate me with that image
LOL...I'd be on of those!
made a homemade sear for my stock trigger group
i want it hold the hammer back as far as possible and the front part where that touches the trigger is wider hopefully making the trigger pull shorter
just have to dill the mounting hole all i have is a dremel and grinding wheel but it works ;)
Pretty busy working on some new stuff...
Some not-so-radical bling.
What to do with the 10 1/4" 13xx barrels with the ledge at the crown? Put a tip on that thang!
and a slimmer brake for the Crosman barrel family...
sweet!
Very nice Mr. D..What is that black knob material made of is that delrin? Best regards.
Davio, Davio - Very very nice dude :-*
Quote from: crossliner on December 24, 2012, 10:01:59 AM
Very nice Mr. D..What is that black knob material made of is that delrin? Best regards.
Thank you, kind sir. All of the knobs are solid machined brass when undressed. ;) Not a big delrin fan, I'm afraid. Actually not afraid, but I am big and just not a fan. ???
Very nice Davio. Really like the bolt handles . The work I did yesterday was rewired the ignition on my car,it died on me last Thursday as I was pulling into work. Well she runs again so I guess I must have fixed it.
Killer work Davio! Those bolt handles are sooooo sexy :-\ :-*
Quote from: crossliner on December 06, 2012, 12:37:18 AM
Quote from: crossliner on November 30, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
Had my 2 grip frames, bb and other aluminum items bead blasted by 1 of my friends for a free lunch.. The 3rd one and his accompanying barrel band being in Manila for copying via cnc..Dang the guy to do it is still in Europe but he will be here before X'mas I can wait >:(....Btw I have already delivered my babies to the new powder coating co. located 5 minutes away from my place :D Finally because the other co. refuses to accept even airgun parts :-X..Very cheap for around $5.00 ???
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4399.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4400.jpg)
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I think w/ this finish even a not so good paint will adhere well. This is so much better than sanding imho. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4402.jpg)
Here they are post powder coat..I paid $4.76 for the 2 grips, bb and some flashlight items ain't that cheap? Because the items were bead blasted the finish is somewhat spartan in appearance but I tested its toughness by hammering its inside portion and yes it's very tough indeed. Best regards.
I forgot to post it here..Here it is up close..I was able to get rid of the ugly casting blowholes..The powdercoating being thick helped mask the imperfections. Mr. Chongman's right it does have a hammered appearance.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4407_zpsaa9c79a3.jpg)
Quote from: crossliner on November 12, 2012, 11:46:09 AM
Mounted a torch on 1 of my 2400KTs. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4371.jpg)
Here is how it is mounted. My machinist bud made this dovetail adapter for me in brass ( easier to work on as it's soft ) then I had it NICKEL CHROME PLATED. A brass part even if it is not too visible would not look right on a silver and black inspired gun imo. It is secured by 2 screws I replaced the BKL scope mount bolt w/ a longer 1 so it's back to back and very solid. It's a good thing BKL mounts have 2 screw holes :-*..My flashlight mount is a UTG dovetail mount that came w/ the scope but I replaced the bolts w/ polished ss allen ones. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4404_zps6cfa6037.jpg)
Quote from: crossliner on December 25, 2012, 03:44:34 AM
Here is how it is mounted. My machinist bud made this dovetail adapter for me in brass ( easier to work on as it's soft ) then I had it NICKEL CHROME PLATED. A brass part even if it is not too visible would not look right on a silver and black inspired gun imo. It is secured by 2 screws I replaced the BKL scope mount bolt w/ a longer 1 so it's back to back and very solid. It's a good thing BKL mounts have 2 screw holes :-*..My flashlight mount is a UTG dovetail mount that came w/ the scope but I replaced the bolts w/ polished ss allen ones. Best regards.
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Man that looks awesome :-X :-X
looks good!
from the looks of the pics you overlooked the casting lines on the barrel band ???
CL, Very cool idea, and great looking. :-* :-*
What flashlight is that?
forgot some word i did yesterday
i messed up on my homebrewed sear tried freehanding the drilling and the drill didnt stay put and walked some even though i wasnt speeding .as an alternative i removed the set screws from the marauder pistol trigger and installed it in the stock 1377 grip frame .all i can say is what a difference it makes because the tongue is longer it bumps up to the sear near the mounting hole absolutely no play in the trigger immediate release of the sear making for nice single stage short trigger. now what it really needs is a trigger stop because of the extra travel it has after the sear is released,which is a lot. since i am used to the same release point on my marauder pistol trigger group out of habit i dont keep pulling through and i found out the over travel stop on that trigger group only gets in my way so i removed the set screws anyhow.if anyone else is willing to try the marauder pistol trigger group on their stock 2XXX/13XX trigger group please post your finding
Spent a little over an hour cleaning up the sear and trigger on my new 2400KT. What a difference...Initially the trigger pull was gritty and heavy. Now it has a clean and light let off with no over travel (trigger stop). I wanted to polish up the hammer, but I didn't have the right allen wrench for the breech screw >:( I couldn't believe I didn't have one! Oh well...Next time. What is the size of that breech screw? I added some small flat washers to both sides of the sear (was sitting kinda crooked before). There was no play in the trigger, so I left it with the factory washer. Lubed it up and reassembled. Mounted the UTG red/green dot using the adapters I picked up...Worked great. Before I actually sight it in, I'll put some loctite on the adapter screws.
Quote from: AirShooter2012 on December 25, 2012, 10:55:14 PM
Spent a little over an hour cleaning up the sear and trigger on my new 2400KT. What a difference...Initially the trigger pull was gritty and heavy. Now it has a clean and light let off with no over travel (trigger stop). I wanted to polish up the hammer, but I didn't have the right allen wrench for the breech screw >:( I couldn't believe I didn't have one! Oh well...Next time. What is the size of that breech screw? I added some small flat washers to both sides of the sear (was sitting kinda crooked before). There was no play in the trigger, so I left it with the factory washer. Lubed it up and reassembled. Mounted the UTG red/green dot using the adapters I picked up...Worked great. Before I actually sight it in, I'll put some loctite on the adapter screws.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,185.msg775.html#msg775 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,185.msg775.html#msg775)
The breech screw takes a .050" Allen wrench. If it's a steel breech, with a barrel set screw, you will also need a 5/64" Allen wrench.
why is it when some buy the tube style red dot they buy the adapter instead of the 30mm rings they are the same price.i can see it if you have the adapter already,if you have to buy one or the other the rings is the better way to go.imo!
Quote from: 1377x on December 25, 2012, 05:05:07 PM
looks good!
from the looks of the pics you overlooked the casting lines on the barrel band ???
True Mr. 13 but I just left it but sanded it fine prior to beadblasting..It is on the lower portion of the BB where the curve starts that the line is somewhat visible but it does not look bad as it is very fine and evenly linear unlike those that you see on grip frames that look like keloids..
Thank you Mr. BigErn.
Mr. Vet it is this light a TD12 R5 led..I have the complete line of all old Lumintop models..My TD15 casts a much stronger light having an XML led but it guzzles a lot of gas even w/ a 18650 battery..I just use medium setting when I hunt rats..It is too much light actually you will spook them vermin..I am going to get a red led soon. Best regards..
http://www.ledflashlightsource.com/lumens/221-500-lumens/lumintop-td12.html (http://www.ledflashlightsource.com/lumens/221-500-lumens/lumintop-td12.html)
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True Mr. 13 but I just left it but sanded it fine prior to beadblasting..It is on the lower portion of the BB where the curve starts that the line is somewhat visible but it does not look bad as it is very fine and evenly linear unlike those that you see on grip frames that look like keloids..
i see that now you mention it another thing is these pics are huge.probably less noticable in real life pics seem to bring out the details we miss :-*
I'll have to search my tool box again. The red dot had the built in weaver base so I needed the adapter.
i had a tasco rd30 red dot like that very accurate for being a rd30 just didnt like the adapter
i stick to the tube red dots now,they can be mounted with just a change of the rings ;)
That breech screw seemed awful small... emailed Crosman about that screw. They said it was a 1/54 (.0185) allen wrench.
Quoteemailed Crosman about that screw. They said it was a 1/54 (.0185) allen wrench.
Maybe they were pulling your leg. Let me know if you find one that small. I have some awfully small tools but only thing I have that small are drill bits.
Most of us use a fifty-thousandths (.050) Allen wrench on that little screw, which would be 1/20th of an inch.
Have a Happy New Year!
Quote from: AirShooter2012 on December 27, 2012, 06:05:55 PM
That breech screw seemed awful small... emailed Crosman about that screw. They said it was a 1/54 (.0185) allen wrench.
It's an .050" hex key, get several, the cheap ones round off quickly.
Yep...It was .050" Crosman gave me the wrong info!
I use 1.3mm hex for the said screw although I already replaced them w/ ss versions that use 2mm hex keys. Best regards.
All the Ace Hardwares near me have the 050's. Like $.45 each too! None at Home Depot, Lowes, Menards....
Buy several as suggested.
Well finally :) I broke down the 2400KT polished the hammer and cleaned the barrel. The basics are done. I couldn't belive the crap in the bore. I gave it the Qtip test on the chamber and the crown, no snags. While I had the barrel out I gave the chamber and crown a light polish. Now, if I put everything back together right it should push a pellet down the barrel, hopefully with some accuracy. The reassembly of the breech was a little tricky. It kept wanting to roll left or right on the tube. My biggest concern was keeping the transport port aligned with the barrel. Next time I think I'll put in the screw for the hammer spring cap in first to keep it from rolling.
Ha ha, we ALL recognize that work bench!
Keep polishin and fittin and fine tuning, you'll love the results! :-\ :-*
Yesterday I made a new trigger, today I made up a muzzle brake and cut plywood to have a go at making some grips and fitted my new steel breech that arrived this morning. I was also looking at the trigger frame I reckon it shouldn't be too hard to make a replacement from steel.
Quote from: outofthefire on December 28, 2012, 11:51:12 PM
Yesterday I made a new trigger, today I made up a muzzle brake and cut plywood to have a go at making some grips and fitted my new steel breech that arrived this morning. I was also looking at the trigger frame I reckon it shouldn't be too hard to make a replacement from steel.
If you can make steel trigger frames....well lets just say you could make some money selling them around here!
:D Got tired of waiting for others to build and bring to market an affordable Bull Pup conversion .... so just went and built one :-*
Paintball gun trigger frame, Aluminum main chassis, Walnut wood stock .... yea baby the MUD PUP ( Marauder Unitized Design ) gets born.
Scott
Cool stuff Motorhead. How does she shoot?
Quote from: Motorhead on December 29, 2012, 07:16:20 AM
:D Got tired of waiting for others to build and bring to market an affordable Bull Pup conversion .... so just went and built one :-*
Paintball gun trigger frame, Aluminum main chassis, Walnut wood stock .... yea baby the MUD PUP ( Marauder Unitized Design ) gets born.
Scott
very nice work!!! :-*
how long did it take you make the neccessary parts and to put it together?
how is the scope mounted? ???
Finished up a new pellet trap for my brother. He has one of those crosman plastic jobs so I made him a new silent trap. Turns out pretty good,still need to adjust my dimension a little,that's what you get with doing something with no real plan.
Quote from: 1377x on December 29, 2012, 10:30:21 AM
very nice work!!! :-*
how long did it take you make the neccessary parts and to put it together?
how is the scope mounted? ???
Here ya go on some details ....
more ...
And done ....
Shoots just great as before ... dime size 50 yards patterns.
Just a whole lot more compact now ... No bench gun, but as a hike & hunt arm really B** azz !!
Time to build and fabricate parts .... @ 2 weeks using eves and weekends.
Cost less than $40 but a whole lot of time !! ... billet scope risers were @ 4 hours alone :-X
Awesome work. Wish I had skills like that,but then I wouldn't keep other people in business then.
that some very good work!
good job!
Very cool Motorhead. :-*
started to assemble my .25 disco.thought i had another trigger group seems to be i am one short.gotta goo to the shop or disassemble a gun already made not going to happen yet ;)
Quote from: Motorhead on January 02, 2013, 01:43:01 AM
And done ....
Shoots just great as before ... dime size 50 yards patterns.
Just a whole lot more compact now ... No bench gun, but as a hike & hunt arm really B** azz !!
Time to build and fabricate parts .... @ 2 weeks using eves and weekends.
Cost less than $40 but a whole lot of time !! ... billet scope risers were @ 4 hours alone :-X
Whoaaaaa!!!!!! :-\
Quote from: Motorhead on January 02, 2013, 01:43:01 AM
And done ....
Shoots just great as before ... dime size 50 yards patterns.
Just a whole lot more compact now ... No bench gun, but as a hike & hunt arm really B** azz !!
Time to build and fabricate parts .... @ 2 weeks using eves and weekends.
Cost less than $40 but a whole lot of time !! ... billet scope risers were @ 4 hours alone :-X
at least you have the ability and skill to do it
time if have, need machines though ;) :)
i see bullpup stocks going for $300-$400 i see why the price is such but even at that price they are undersold
not crosmans but i've been building a new bulkfill xs78 and modding the stock on another to take an ar 15 style grip
the top ones got a blue fork grip (cheers gary) porkyyorky long tube breech riser and shroud i've made a delrin fore grip and an alloy barrel band(needs a bit more work)
not sure if i'm going to use the ar15 stock i'm thinking a fixed wire stock may suit it better
the bottom ones a .25 with a rear bolt action again bulk co2 fill the stock is a cheap webley one, i've never liked the pistol grip on it since day one so i've fitted an airsoft ar15 one that i got by mistake thinking it would fit the blue fork grip frame
it now feels alot more comfortable but if i can't get the trigger guard right i'm going to fit a crosman trigger frame and mount a paint ball hpa tank similar to a as2250
i've also put my heinz 57 multi shot onto hpa as it was not performing how i wanted it on co2 still need to finish bottle support band and re heat shrink the shroud will post a pic in gallery when done
ped
Quote from: Motorhead on January 02, 2013, 01:43:01 AM
And done ....
Shoots just great as before ... dime size 50 yards patterns.
Just a whole lot more compact now ... No bench gun, but as a hike & hunt arm really B** azz !!
Time to build and fabricate parts .... @ 2 weeks using eves and weekends.
Cost less than $40 but a whole lot of time !! ... billet scope risers were @ 4 hours alone :-X
Hi Motorhead how did you does the trigger mechanism work?
Nice work Ped, those QB78 and XS78's and clones are a ton o' fun to mod, one of the few China guns that are actually better than the Crosman they copied :-*
Just finished primering Crosman 600.
I love watching that kind of stuff, especially when I don't have to wear a mask :-*
I did the massive job of putting my new Chongman original handle on my 1377. Must have taken me at least 30 seconds ,maybe less. Well worth the time though. ;D Pics in his machinewerks post.
Quote from: bgmcgee on January 06, 2013, 02:56:39 AM
I did the massive job of putting my new Chongman original handle on my 1377. Must have taken me at least 30 seconds ,maybe less. Well worth the time though. ;D Pics in his machinewerks post.
Saw the pic - a fine job indeed! :-*
like what you did to the guns ped!!!
cant wait to see what your 600 looks like cmj
Quote from: outofthefire on January 05, 2013, 09:38:43 PM
Hi Motorhead how did you does the trigger mechanism work?
Trigger frame used from an AGD Automag having a direct push trigger without any linkages so a straight push rod could be fitted.
Few trick little machined parts at trigger allows infinite setting possibilities.
Linkage pic is early prototyping trials for proof of it working, final design was very similar.
Last 2 days spent making some matching grips :-*
Few more pics ....
nice work on the grips
great job overall!!\wish i had the skills and machines you do :-*
Holy cow Motorhead, those grips are gorgeous. :-*
That is fun to look at Motorhead :) Thanks for pics :-*
Very nice grips, they remind me of a pair of Keith E's "Combat's" I have.
put scopes on all my guns last night
gonna sight in the guns i use and add my orion camera mount
hopefully record some action today
gonna take down my .25 disco see why its leaking.i received it in that condition so it is a mystery to me right now
the way its leaking its like its missing an o-ring hope thats not the case since i cant get the necessary parts until wednesday
i was shooting my 44fpe 2260pcp last night ooohhh yeeeeahhh!!!(http://serve.mysmiley.net/jumping/jumping0047.gif) what a thump it makes when hitting the target @ 30yds right now im at af talon power with my .25 disco its working at stock af condor power 70+fpe i'm trying to get some heavier bullets right now im working with 42gn and 50gn bullets and pellets launching at speeds i want
the 2260pcp needs heavier bullets/pellets its shooting 969fps with beeman kodiaks which is faster than i like. i want to try some 40gn-50gn bullets in it slow it down to 800-850fps and get some better fpe 50+(http://serve.mysmiley.net/jumping/jumping0047.gif)
That's some beautiful wood work there motorhead.
Quote from: 1377x on January 06, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
i was shooting my 44fpe 2260pcp last night ooohhh yeeeeahhh!!!(http://serve.mysmiley.net/jumping/jumping0047.gif) what a thump it makes when hitting the target @ 30yds right now im at af talon power with my .25 disco its working at stock af condor power 70+fpe i'm trying to get some heavier bullets right now im working with 42gn and 50gn bullets and pellets launching at speeds i want
the 2260pcp needs heavier bullets/pellets its shooting 969fps with beeman kodiaks which is faster than i like. i want to try some 40gn-50gn bullets in it slow it down to 800-850fps and get some better fpe 50+(http://serve.mysmiley.net/jumping/jumping0047.gif)
44 fpe, 50 fpe, 70 fpe The fence post better surrender...
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/surrender_zps37c93494.jpg)
Made a buttplate from some aluminum I found at my Dad's for the Winchester :)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5267/dscn1949y.jpg)
Quote from: BigErn on January 06, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
Made a buttplate from some aluminum I found at my Dad's for the Winchester :)
Nicely done BigE. I am thinking about installing an adjustable butt plate on one of my Weihrauch's this year. What tools did you use to shape the aluminum? How did you get the shine back once the piece was sized? Just looking to steal a few tips before I begin.
Quote from: WyoMan on January 06, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
44 fpe, 50 fpe, 70 fpe The fence post better surrender...
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/surrender_zps37c93494.jpg)
yeah! ;D
i havent hit it with the 70fpe yet,did hit it with 50fpe and the pellet is stuck in it cant get it outmight take a screwdriver and dig it out
gotta start on a new fence post before this one falls over.
when i had my disco pistol shooting 50+fpe my nephew was shooting holes in his truck with it we was using sized down 22lr bullets might have been over 50+ because the 50+ was done with 25.4gr jsb monsters. which are lighter than 22lr even with them being downsized
cant wait to use these guns and see the carnage they produce just wish i had some heavy hollow tipped bullets/pellets to use
Quote from: BigErn on January 06, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
Made a buttplate from some aluminum I found at my Dad's for the Winchester :)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5267/dscn1949y.jpg)
looking very good bigern
good job!!! :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on January 06, 2013, 08:49:53 PM
Nicely done BigE. I am thinking about installing an adjustable butt plate on one of my Weihrauch's this year. What tools did you use to shape the aluminum? How did you get the shine back once the piece was sized? Just looking to steal a few tips before I begin.
Thanks Larry and Ed! I only used a Dremel to cut the shape using cut off disks (about 10 lol!) Then I used sandpaper to smooth and polish the edge. I started with 220 grit then up to 400. I didn't want it too shiny. The aluminum piece I found at my Dad's was 1/8" thick I believe.
Looks really nice on there BigE :-* What's the first thing you say one one of those Dremel cut-off disk busts... Ahhhh S#*t!!!
just got done working on my .25 disco
WOW!!! is all i can say that gun is a super beast in the disco world 70fpe and plenty more to be had
the seller said it was ready to go i tried it out the first day and all the air just zipped right through it
stripped it down and found out it did not have any o-rings on the outside
took some off another valve got it working i am satisified
very nice motorhead nicest bullpup i've seen 8) 8)
glad you got the valve sorted ed 70fpe very impressive :-*
ped
thanks ped
shot the same chain link fence post that the other pellet was stuck in.the funny thing is the stuck pellet flew out of its hole when the 50gn bullet hit
Not a Crosman, but I tuned the two-part trigger on my QB57 until it enhanced an already accurate bull pup. RC
I made this at the weekend from scrap to test things. Mk2 will be done soon.
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv26/beatamax/2240/IMAG0283.jpg)
finally finished my heinz 57 multishot now on hpa although some grips in ebony and a stainless safety might be on the cards
ped
Wow .. nice ... :-*
Ooh the patterned shrink tubing!!! I was looking at that stuff a while back, but never pulled the trigger on it. Does it shrink fairly easily? I tried some clear and the shrink temp required was so high, the item underneath started to overheat. Looks great!!
Quote from: outofthefire on January 10, 2013, 08:15:12 AM
I made this at the weekend from scrap to test things. Mk2 will be done soon.
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv26/beatamax/2240/IMAG0283.jpg)
nice job!
Quote from: ped on January 10, 2013, 10:58:06 PM
finally finished my heinz 57 multishot now on hpa although some grips in ebony and a stainless safety might be on the cards
ped
AWESOME!!!!
now you have me wanting to do something like that ;) :-*
pm the details :P
It's called X-tube. Available on eBay and other online dealers in different diameters.
An example...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Tube-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-25mm-by-64-NEW-/310560318939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484ed665db (http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Tube-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-25mm-by-64-NEW-/310560318939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484ed665db)
Some cool stuff came out today> Looking good fellas :-*
Quote from: chongman on January 11, 2013, 01:55:06 AM
Some cool stuff came out today> Looking good fellas :-*
;D talk about a teaser ....
Quote from: KevinP on January 11, 2013, 02:24:42 AM
;D talk about a teaser ....
Roger that...Big Time :-* Had a bling attack then a mod attack :o so I just made a Mellon, GMAC, and Cothran order....starting to calm down alittle
Quote from: WyoMan on January 11, 2013, 04:18:30 AM
Roger that...Big Time :-* Had a bling attack then a mod attack :o so I just made a Mellon, GMAC, and Cothran order....starting to calm down alittle
There's no reason to calm down...
3/8" diameter 303 alloy stainless steel
That is just plain beautiful. A work of art!
That's really nice chongman. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: WyoMan on January 11, 2013, 04:18:30 AM
Roger that...Big Time :-* Had a bling attack then a mod attack :o so I just made a Mellon, GMAC, and Cothran order....starting to calm down alittle
:D ;D Calm down son, the first few hours of Cros-mod "withdrawal" are the worst! :-*
Still working on my new shop! Been reloading some PB shells. I didn't know I had so much Crosman stuff till I started moving it. Man I am finding parts that I didn't rember even ordeding ;D Chongman those parts are lookin just great :-*
Last night I put in a solid roll pin in my new Crosman 39.99 and used white-out to make dots on the sites.
Finally got my Mellon adapter! Using the flashlight as a foregrip :-*
(http://imageshack.us/a/img194/130/dscn1983d.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img716/2425/dscn1984f.jpg)
Lookin' sweet, Ern! :-*
Love the black/silver look 8)
Todd
Wow B'Ern! that's looking fine :-* cool gadgetry 8)
Holey Buckets :o
That has got to be the coolest, wildest I have seen on the forum yet :-*
Nice work! RC
TACTI-COOL, ERN!!!!!! 8)
like it!!!
Ern...who's da man?... U da man! :D
That is waaay cool looking, luv the swing around stock and the 1701 grips, nice work :-\ :-*
Very sweet looking shooter there Ern, I love it. :-*
Thanks guys!!!! I love how it turned out. Been busy this morning, just finished putting a solid pin kit, long probe bolt, and a flat top set up on the 1322 :D
nice :-*
ped
8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Good one !!! :-*
Dave 8)
Quote from: BigErn on January 19, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
Finally got my Mellon adapter! Using the flashlight as a foregrip :-*
(http://imageshack.us/a/img194/130/dscn1983d.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img716/2425/dscn1984f.jpg)
You got STYLE ... GREAT style, well done indeed :-*
I Finished removing the mold lines and stripped the paint off of a grip frame today. Still to do is the barrel band. Hope to finish that tonight/tomorrow than it's off to be powder coated.
(http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/l/laughing/graphics-laughing-818065.gif) (http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/) forgot the picture!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MIKE1/TKO%201911%20trigger%202400/frame1.jpg)
Quote from: chongman on January 20, 2013, 03:00:50 AM
I Finished removing the mold lines and stripped the paint off of a grip frame today. Still to do is the barrel band. Hope to finish that tonight/tomorrow than it's off to be powder coated.
(http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/l/laughing/graphics-laughing-818065.gif) (http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/) forgot the picture!
Is that project A.L.I.C.E. not sure what your building ???
Nice looking rig Big Ern and very nice work Chongman. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: chongman on January 20, 2013, 03:00:50 AM
I Finished removing the mold lines and stripped the paint off of a grip frame today. Still to do is the barrel band. Hope to finish that tonight/tomorrow than it's off to be powder coated.
(http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/l/laughing/graphics-laughing-818065.gif) (http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/) forgot the picture!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MIKE1/TKO%201911%20trigger%202400/frame1.jpg)
Thanks again for the nice compliments guys! Chong I love this pic :-* :-* :-*
Huge mess ;D
I'm going to use the frame, trigger, and barrel band to build a 2400 pistol with forearm ;D
I did a reseal and hammer replacement on my son-in-law's 38T.
Here is how it started.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/Bad%20Hammer.jpg)
Here are the old and new parts laid out.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/DJ%2038T%20Old%2BNew%20Parts.jpg)
The replacement hammer required a little grinding where it meets the sear, in order to engage properly.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/Hand%20Fit%20Hammer.jpg)
Here's the finished result.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/DJs%20177%2038T.jpg)
BTW, when the assembly instructions for the valve say "finger tight only", it's important.
Too tight and it won't release any CO2.
Nice work YSYEO :-*
Nice work on the 38T :)
.Nice work on that pistol YSYEO. I want to get one of those a 38c though keep missing them when they come up for sale don't last very long
Nice work YSYEO! What is that Godawful looking crud in the upper right?!?
Quote from: Fronzdan on January 20, 2013, 07:54:00 PM
Nice work YSYEO! What is that Godawful looking crud in the upper right?!?
That would be the end seal for the CO2 cart. It wasn't actually bad when I started, but it comes out in pieces.
Quote from: YSYEO on January 20, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
That would be the end seal for the CO2 cart. It wasn't actually bad when I started, but it comes out in pieces.
where did you get the parts?
Quote from: 1377x on January 20, 2013, 10:06:38 PM
where did you get the parts?
I usually get my stuff from Rick Willnecker at Precision Pellet.
http://www.airgunshop.net/contactus.html (http://www.airgunshop.net/contactus.html)
He had a replacement hammer for $10 and the seal kit was $19.50. The kit includes a new piercing pin as well as the o-rings and valve seat. When Crosman changed the end seal on these guns, they also updated the piercing pin.
I wish I had ordered 2 kits, though, because while I had this gun apart on the bench, I found another 38T (.22) in a box and brought it home. And guess what? It leaks. I have some O-rings, and I already tried flipping the valve seat around but no luck. I may try turning a new seat on the lathe, but if that doesn't work, I'll buy another reseal kit. No biggie, his shipping is quite reasonable.
good place to shop
i was just checking to se many dont know about rick.
The Domino Effect took me back into my son-in-law's 38T.
Adjusting the hammer to engage the sear in single action affected the clearance for the trigger as well. I was getting a "catch" in the trigger in single action mode. I had to adjust the clearance between trigger and hammer at the points shown below. You have to reassemble to test, as the fit changes with the cover on. Adjust, assemble, test, disassemble, repeat, etc.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/Single%20Action%20Clearance.jpg)
That adjustment then affected the timing in double action mode causing pellet jams. So I had to swap out the bushing shown below for one of slightly larger outside diameter.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/Timing%20Bushing.jpg)
I stole the larger bushing from a recently acquired 38T that is apart for reseal, so I will likely have to power up the lathe and make a new one when I tackle that project.
Good thing I enjoy learning new things.
Yup... the o'l timing/indexing problems, comes with the "six gun" type systems unfortunately but, you have it figured out exactly right :-*
tried sighting in a couple scopes today but the -4*F made for some terrible shooting.if my stock was metal my face would have froze to it like the kids tongue stuck to the pole in a christmas story
plus i guess the gas in it froze too a little bubble developed in the lens after the gun warmed up the bubble disappeared
Tore apart my newly acquired, cheapo, Beeman P17 to clean the gunk out of the barrel as well as polish/lube trigger components and compression tube/piston. For a cheap ($50 Canadian) plinker, I was amazed at how accurate it is! Super quiet and completely recoiless...perfect for basement plinking :-*
Gonna have to put a red dot or scope on her though, my poor old eyes ain't what they used to be... ;D ;D
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Misc/m_BeemanP17005.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Misc/m_BeemanP17007.jpg)
On a side note: after I cleaned the barrel, I tried a little experiment and sprayed the inside of barrel with Release-All as it is a great rust inhibitor/lubricant. Wiped off the excess, reassembled and picked up an additional 27 fps... 8). Don't know how long it will last, but after 150 shots or so, it is still shooting at a (cough, cough) *blistering* 434 fps (compared to 407 fps before spraying barrel).
I know, Ed - it's not eezoxx, but still works really well! ;D ;D ;D
Todd
EDIT: Hey! With this post I just officially became a "Crosmaniac:!!! (Gotta celebrate the small victories, you know...)
Watch out, Ed - I'm closing in on your post count! lol...
Nice shooters, $40 at Pyramyd Air and 90% as good as the Beeman P3 for 400% less!
Quote from: BDS on January 22, 2013, 03:24:47 PM
Nice shooters, $40 at Pyramyd Air and 90% as good as the Beeman P3 for 400% less!
Yup! :)
Never owned an over-lever pistol before. I must admit - I like it! :-*
Todd
Nice score HH!
That's a nice looking gun Todd, when you say accurate, just how accurate is it?
As for what I have done, I ordered a CCS 2400 and bought a 2240 to shoot while I wait for it. I lightened the trigger pull by cutting the spring half a coil and restretching it. Trigger pull is now about a pound, I don't have a scale so I used KY windage to estimate it. ;)
Dave
Quote from: HappyHunter on January 22, 2013, 03:20:06 PM
Tore apart my newly acquired, cheapo, Beeman P17 to clean the gunk out of the barrel as well as polish/lube trigger components and compression tube/piston. For a cheap ($50 Canadian) plinker, I was amazed at how accurate it is! Super quiet and completely recoiless...perfect for basement plinking :-*
Gonna have to put a red dot or scope on her though, my poor old eyes ain't what they used to be... ;D ;D
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Misc/m_BeemanP17005.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Misc/m_BeemanP17007.jpg)
On a side note: after I cleaned the barrel, I tried a little experiment and sprayed the inside of barrel with Release-All as it is a great rust inhibitor/lubricant. Wiped off the excess, reassembled and picked up an additional 27 fps... 8). Don't know how long it will last, but after 150 shots or so, it is still shooting at a (cough, cough) *blistering* 434 fps (compared to 407 fps before spraying barrel).
I know, Ed - it's not eezoxx, but still works really well! ;D ;D ;D
Todd
EDIT: Hey! With this post I just officially became a "Crosmaniac:!!! (Gotta celebrate the small victories, you know...)
Watch out, Ed - I'm closing in on your post count! lol...
congrats you crosmaniac!
release all ??? im going to have to look into that
congrats on the new shooter to.i see the beeman p-17 in posts quite a bit
stay active you'll catch up ;)
didnt realise i passed the 11111 mark cant wait until i hit the 12345 mark ;D ;D
Quote from: DaveB50 on January 23, 2013, 02:40:31 AM...when you say accurate, just how accurate is it?
Well....I doubt anyone will try out for a spot on the Olympic team with one ;D, but not bad for a $50 pistol.
My rest wasn't the sturdiest - I should have put the gun in a vice to show its full potential, but you get the idea (I traced a dime for the bullseye's):
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/target%20comp/BeemanP17groups006.jpg)
Scope was zeroed with Meisters', then used the same POA for all pellets - not very picky at all!!
8)
Todd
Nice shooting there Todd, it seems to be pretty accurate.
Quote from: DaveB50 on January 23, 2013, 08:50:56 PM
Nice shooting there Todd, it seems to be pretty accurate.
Definitely. What distance did you shoot those groups from?
The new scope came in today. So I put the centerpoint on the 2100 and the new Mueller on the blue streak. I didn't think the centerpoint was that bad until comparing it to the Mueller. What a difference in brightness. The Mueller, which was 50.00 more has to be twice as bright and clear over the centerpoint. The centerpoint isn't a bad scope for the money but for just a little more the Mueller is way better. Got them both sighted in. The blue streak is putting them in the same hole at 40'. Love it. The 2100 not as good guess I need to try some different pellets and see what it likes.
Quote from: Tater on January 23, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
Definitely. What distance did you shoot those groups from?
Target says 10 meters
Quote from: HappyHunter on January 23, 2013, 06:41:58 PM
Well....I doubt anyone will try out for a spot on the Olympic team with one ;D, but not bad for a $50 pistol.
Nice! I like the results.
Looks like a fun shooter to me H H.
fitted the boss breech i got off gary to a 2240 added some yew grips aswell it needs ally tube caps i think
haven't touched the trigger yet waiting for the tko trigger to come and can't shoot it as i have no co2 carts
ped
Nice Ped, should be a fun one.
cheers i originally thought to put the breech on a carbine but its a bit of a faff loading and as i had a new pistol sat doing nothing i thought what the hell
if its not too cold tonight i'll make a rear tube cap i might even try the monthly pistol comp when its finished is there a catagory for "can't hit the inside of a barn"
ped
"No co2 Carts".... ??? :-X >:( :D
What... the Queen is regulating those too? :o
all my rifles are either bulk fill co2 or regulated hpa i know what a mistaker to maker :-[
gonna look in the footwell of the landie and in the cubby box later
ped
Quote from: BDS on January 25, 2013, 05:44:49 PM
"No co2 Carts".... ??? :-X >:( :D
What... the Queen is regulating those too? :o
Not yet ;)
Saying that CO2 guns were banned until a few years ago I understand.
Quote from: ped on January 25, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
fitted the boss breech i got off gary to a 2240 added some yew grips aswell it needs ally tube caps i think
haven't touched the trigger yet waiting for the tko trigger to come and can't shoot it as i have no co2 carts
ped
And that is looking mighty fine Ped :-*
cheers gary
i think the sights will need up grading oh and a ldc
this O.C.D. is terribly contagious
ped
Quote from: ped on January 25, 2013, 05:57:52 PM
all my rifles are either bulk fill co2 or regulated hpa i know what a mistaker to maker :-[
gonna look in the footwell of the landie and in the cubby box later
ped
For you guys in the states... that would be the
floor of the truck and the glove-box :D ;D
Quote from: BDS on January 25, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
For you guys in the states... that would be the floor of the truck and the glove-box :D ;D
And for the Satanist, it's: ®ƒÆ¯ ╗à→å ≤τ╩╥ú :o
as that greek said eureka found a full one in the cubby box :-* all the ones in footwell were used(keep them for targets)
as its snowing and as cold as can be testing is postpone till tomorrow if it warms up
ped
Quote from: ped on January 25, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
fitted the boss breech i got off gary to a 2240 added some yew grips aswell it needs ally tube caps i think
haven't touched the trigger yet waiting for the tko trigger to come and can't shoot it as i have no co2 carts
ped
Wow that's a beauty!!!! Looks amazing :-\
Those yew grips are fantastic. Don't see something like that very often :-*
It's snowing it's butt off here so I went for a little lathe therapy. I might do something else to it or polish it up and put it in the stash.
Quote from: chongman on January 25, 2013, 09:35:09 PM
Those yew grips are fantastic. Don't see something like that very often :-*
It's snowing it's butt off here so I went for a little lathe therapy. I might do something else to it or polish it up and put it in the stash.
:-* :-* Nice one chong!
Quote from: ped on January 25, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
fitted the boss breech i got off gary to a 2240
Would like feedback on that discontinued breech. Does it work and does it work well.
Quote from: ped on January 25, 2013, 05:20:41 PM...and can't shoot it as i have no co2 carts
Rookie!
cheers lads i wish my machining was as nice as yours chongman :-* it puts my effort to shame
well i braved the snow and freezing temps and made an end cap i haven't polished it ,i've tried to make it match the breech in finish
i've a feeling that it could be very pellet picky but it is very well made and is a fine addition to my small collection of breech's
hopefully i'll have a better understanding of it tomorrow
ped
ped, I dig your end cap and IMHO the finish is spot on :-* I'm trying to make some end caps but keep messing up the depth of the hole where the hammer spring seats.
Oh, you got a source for those yew grips?
Quote from: chongman on January 25, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
Oh, you got a source for those yew grips?
Yes Mr. Ped, where did you get those grips?
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on January 25, 2013, 11:40:51 PM
Yes Mr. Ped, where did you get those grips?
Carl
I bet he has made them himself. He's a clever so an so ;)
Nice prob handle chongman and the 2240 looks real good ped love the grips also.
what i do with end caps is put a piece of tape around the drill bit at the right depth then go in till i hit the tape this ones took two attempts as it was a bit of a sloppy fit first time and it took two attempts to get the holes right
gary's partially right i felled the tree and slabbed it with a chainsaw (to make a mantle for a mate) when i slabbed it i also did one at 11/4"
i made the blanks and inleted them to fit a grip frame then sent them to ian (bladerr1)who transformed them from a rough blank to a thing of beauty
i've got a bit left so anybody wants a bit the're more than welcome
this is my slabbing set up and what i make with the slabs
ped
Wow nice bench :-* :-* :-*
Not exactly sure if this is what the OP was looking for but just this afternoon I modded a Crosman Airsoft pistol holster so that my 1322c AND my soon to arrive American Classic 1377 would fit and be reasonably easy to draw from (not a "quick draw" situation to be sure!) Certainly I can't say that it was an original idea as I'm sure that others have done it too. I saw a post a few days ago where a guy did pretty much the same thing. He used a zip tie to keep the sewn seam from coming completely apart. I kicked it up a notch by using a small carriage bolt and secured it on the back side with a washer and nut that I ground down to reduce the profile.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5413_zps6251acae.jpg)
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5412_zps0266acb3.jpg)
There's no way that the seam is going to separate.
I'm thinkin' about rigging the holster to hang several inches below the belt, almost like a leg holster to make the draw a little less clumsy.
Oh, and I also slipped a Butler Creek / Uncle Mike's med grip sleeve on for general principles (and since I had one laying around). I doesn't hug the contours at the top of the grip but the lower 75% fits perfectly.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5410_zpsfce80817.jpg)
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5409_zpsd019a71e.jpg)
I know that these aren't serious mods but a guy's got to start somewhere. ;) Flex
i do like that grip sleeve i feel some cogs turning in my head nice work on the holster
ped
mr ped and mr Flex thank you for showing that work, very nice talents you have :-*
The grip sleeve is a nice touch very cool Flex :-* :-* :-*
Another beaut Chongman.
Stripped the dream gun, changed the barrel over to 7 1/2", found the barrel to be too tight in the breech and got it stuck. Into the workshop in the soft jaw vice got the devil out. Sanded the barrel down a bit on the OC, reblued it and with a bit of pelgun oil and it slipped in nice. Then I found I had a leak.
So stripped it again replaced the valve seal but still got a leak. Getting annoyed now.
Took the valve out of my Bluefork gun and put in in dream gun now all ok :-* Beautiful :-* Happy again now.
I like playing but I must admit that was getting a bit tiring this morning for what was supposed to be a 2 minute job.
Tore my 2400 KT down last night to add a Mellon Air hollow bolt but I don't have the right Allen wrench to turn the screw under the bolt :P I have a metric that's just undersized but no cigar. I'm hoping I have the right wrench in my old slotcar box, I'm digging it out tomorrow.
Nothing fancy...Broke out my "poor mans" lathe (Electric drill and some hand files) and made a hammer spring guide for my 2400KT out of a 1/4" brass bolt. Got rid of the drag when cocking. I figure the spring was bending during cocking causing uneven pressure on the hammer making it drag on the tube.
Excellent job Airshooter :-* and that will save wear & tear too :)
speaking of hammer things, I polished my hammer today for the new project,
kind of a mind numbing experience but I needed something low tech today ;D
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/hammer_zps10771de2.jpg)
Hey Wyo:
Nice! Anything AG related is fun and keeps you busy :-*
Hammer Time :D
Nice work WyoMan, it's got the sparkle now :-*
Show us a pic of that brass hammer spring guide when you get a chance AirShooter2012 ;)
Dug out my slotcar box and got the two Allen wrenchs. They aren't the "L" shaped tool like normal, they have an aluminum hex handle with the smaller one haveing the tool piece machined from tool steel, I think it's a drill blank with a hex machined to fit the smallest SAE size Allen screw. The tip would take a lot of effort to break. Gave it a good cleaning, installed the Mellon Air hollow bolt and put it all back together.
Gathered up all the digital cameras I own to see if I can get a decent photo. My newest camera arrived with no memory :p I'll be getting a Micro SDHC card payday...from an American seller. Tired of waiting for the Chinee stuff.
Quote from: WyoMan on January 27, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
Excellent job Airshooter :-* and that will save wear & tear too :)
speaking of hammer things, I polished my hammer today for the new project,
kind of a mind numbing experience but I needed something low tech today ;D
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/hammer_zps10771de2.jpg)
thats nice and shiney
made a muzzle weight/crown protector i've also added a sight pip to it but haven't had chance to take a pic of it fitted
can't wait for my 1911 trigger to come so i can sort it's harsh trigger pull out,just need to make a co2 cap now but this could be a challenge as we've no thread cutting facility on our lathe(it has but it doesn't work) so it's either buy one or a two piece one using the threaded part of a standard cap
ped
ped :o
That is one wicked muzzle/crown protecting device :-*
I don't know what you guys think but it seems to me that the CAPOF members have stepped up there game lately. Technical information, tips and hints, and the creative parts that have been popping up all over the forum.
2013...The Year Of The Air Gun
Quote2013...The Year Of The Air Gun
I hope so! :)
But I'm praying the bank account survives it! :D :-[
Cheers,
cheers chongman i did mess up a little bit i milled the slot after i'd turned it and the slots gone into the front taper fractionally i'm debating re chucking it and increasing the front taper to the same depth of the slot
ped
Thought I start with the easy stuff so I did a little trigger work this afternoon on my 1322c. Fortunately, I have some small hex wrenches so I was able to get the side plate off without destroying the screw heads. Found out immediately that the trigger group was pretty unsophisticated. It appears that no attempt was made by Crosman to "finish" ANY of the contact points in the grouping! As per some of the suggestions made in this forum, my plan was to smooth out the contact surfaces and lube the pivot points of the trigger group. I liked the suggestion of using a .22 cal brass case inserted in the upper end of the sear spring. I don't know if others do this but I used a wire wheel to smooth the mfgr stamp and FP strike point out of the base of the case. I had a bag of spent cases and sorted thru them to find one with a light FP strike and a minimal mfgr mark. The wire wheel was able to smooth it out nicely.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5418_zps40df51bf.jpg)
The contact surface on the sear between it and the trigger was very rough. I smoothed both surfaces with some 600 wet or dry paper. At the other end of the sear, I smoother the surface that would now contact with the polished .22 cal case. I did nothing with the sear / hammer engagement surface. I tried to squeeze a couple of the spring loops together to lighten it a bit but wasn't having much success. While it sounds like this might have been a pretty "smooth" operation, try as I might NOT TOO, I did briefly misplace the tiny steel bearing that keeps the safety in the "on" or "off" position :-[. Knowing it couldn't have gone far, I was confident that I would find it but it took nearly 20 minutes to do so :-X. Once that situation was under control, I cleaned and lubed the sear and trigger pivot points as well as the contact surfaces with teflon lube then re-assembled everything.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5416_zps3faec098.jpg)
After both dry and live fire,I believe there to be some genuine improvement in trigger feel (very smooth) but not so much lightening of the pull. I will be seeking out a different spring in the near future. If I subtract the time searching for the tiny steel bearing, the whole operation took probably <45 min. It was fun. Before I run out and buy any custom replacement components, I think my initial goal will be to make this air gun "Be All It Can Be" with the original components. That's it for now. Flex
Nice work Flex!
Good start Flex ... :-*
That's the way to go Flex. I learned so much by working the stock parts to the maximum performance you can get from them.
I installed my custom Alecto barrel made by Gippeto (Al) this weekend. It started out life as a Crosman .22 barrel but was machined to fit in my .177 Alecto. It really is a fine bit of machining, fully polished, with a nice recessed crown.
The barrel before install...
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/d6be9af7ce603d3f4fb20d13629714cd_zpsfceafbab.jpg)
The crown...
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/b2eca1b641da015f9a1b18e7d8d8b91a_zps39cae3f5.jpg)
I'll just say it was not that easy removing the OEM barrel, which fits completely inside the frame of the gun. But I managed to get it out eventually. Installing the new barrel was a breeze because of the extended length.
New barrel installed...the breech end. Pellets are inserted directly into barrel by hand...
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/2F5358DC-8C45-4DA6-9107-9C6CADBA2609-9719-000013D29E6EFB6D_zpsf6280549.jpg)
It extends about an inch from the frame. Muzzle end was left the standard 7/16" OD. Any Crosman brake can be used...
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/689D776F-3EEB-44E7-BCFB-ED5D738EEA43-9719-000013D2C19DADEB_zps60a80a04.jpg)
Accuracy is about the same as it was in .177 (which was excellent at 10m), with good sub-dime groups using Beeman FTS so far. The holes are just bigger! I'll drag out the chrony to see what it's doing now.
I can highly recommend Al's barrel work! Its a shame you hardly see it in the Alecto. Now what to do with that 12" LW I have?? Turn it into another Alecto barrel or modify it to fit a 1377?
That looks cool. 8)
The third time is a charm. I tweaked my son-in-laws 38T one last time.
I was only getting around 350 ft/sec, so I adjusted the barrel to just kiss the cylinder without creating drag as shown below.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/Barrell%20Tweaked.jpg)
This brought it up to 414 ft/sec. Before the adjustment, the barrel to cylinder gap looked more like the pic below, and I was getting a pretty good blast of CO2 out the sides.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/Barrell%20Untweaked.jpg)
Here is a shot string plot for one powerlet @ 70 degrees. You can load the gun 7 times for fairly consistant shooting, and one more time before it drops below 350 fps.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/DJs%2038T%20Shot%20Plot.gif)
I think it's ready to pack up and return (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
I get the same shot count out of my 38T .... low 40's, and then tapers off. I'm gonna check my spacing ... thanks for the tip.
I love my 38T ... just finished shooting it too! It loves the Stroeger X-Sport pellets.
Put a Flat Top Piston and Vale in my M4 177 todayA word of advice don't try to put a spring guide in the hammer spring , it will not work! Iknow I tryed today! I also put a flat top system in one of my 66's today. No range report yet! Will post them in a day of to. :-*
Here's a pic of my homemade hammer spring guide. Had to trim the OAL from .910 to .890, I was getting intermittent sear seating issues. After trim, no problems.
i opened up a stock transfer port using wyoman's and an improvised method ;) not a drill
first i rolled some 330 grit sandpaper really tight stuck it in a dremel and let it spin.once the hole got to big for that roll i made a bigger roll and bigger until i couldnt open it up anymore :D :-*.
havent had time to use it yet or install it.oops :-[ sold all my breeches but i have another gun that isnt going to get much use so i'll borrow the breech until i get another one.
its going to be interesting to see what the difference will be between the stock tranfer port and the modded one will be ??? .might get some poly tubing and see if that makes a difference between the modded t.p. and the poly
another thing i did was covered my ldc' with heat shrink tubing :-* what a difference that makes it gives the tube a whole new feeling and a little bump protection ;D .still need to do my accustoms shroud it needs the most protection which brings me to a question i need to ask in another section
I just took a look at my 38T to see about the spacing you show, and I have almost no spacing at all. The cylinder is right up against the barrel. I tried to get light to shine through like you did and theres a noticeable difference. I just have the tiniest crack of light showing through Is your 38T a .22?, or a later version in .177?
I'll try to get some pictures of it, next time I have the camera out.
Quote from: YSYEO on January 30, 2013, 01:34:35 AM
The third time is a charm. I tweaked my son-in-laws 38T one last time.
I was only getting around 350 ft/sec, so I adjusted the barrel to just kiss the cylinder without creating drag as shown below.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/Barrell%20Tweaked.jpg)
This brought it up to 414 ft/sec. Before the adjustment, the barrel to cylinder gap looked more like the pic below, and I was getting a pretty good blast of CO2 out the sides.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/Barrell%20Untweaked.jpg)
Here is a shot string plot for one powerlet @ 70 degrees. You can load the gun 7 times for fairly consistant shooting, and one more time before it drops below 350 fps.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%2038T/DJs%2038T%20Shot%20Plot.gif)
I think it's ready to pack up and return (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
That works well on the 357 as well :-*
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on January 31, 2013, 01:36:03 AM
I just took a look at my 38T to see about the spacing you show, and I have almost no spacing at all. The cylinder is right up against the barrel. I tried to get light to shine through like you did and theres a noticeable difference. I just have the tiniest crack of light showing through Is your 38T a .22?, or a later version in .177?
I'll try to get some pictures of it, next time I have the camera out.
The 38T in the picture is a late model .177. with a plastic cylinder. I just checked my 38Ts, and a similar late model .177 has less space showing. I also have an early .22 with metal cylinder and it shows even less space. I guess it's just individual variation. The trick is to adjust the barrel on a case-by-case basis for smallest clearance that does not cause drag on the cylinder.
Quote from: YSYEO on January 31, 2013, 02:42:34 PM
The 38T in the picture is a late model .177. with a plastic cylinder. I just checked my 38Ts, and a similar late model .177 has less space showing. I also have an early .22 with metal cylinder and it shows even less space. I guess it's just individual variation. The trick is to adjust the barrel on a case-by-case basis for smallest clearance that does not cause drag on the cylinder.
10-4 .... Thanks!
fitted a rear sight to my boss 2240 repeater it's the same as what archer airguns sell ,i also started making a gas cap but the cutter bit in the lathe :-[ so back to square one i think i'm going to buy a stainless one
ped
Nicely done and, that rear sight takes up a lot of real-estate on that breech, good thing she's a repeater! :-*
Quote from: ped on January 31, 2013, 10:42:59 PM
fitted a rear sight to my boss 2240 repeater it's the same as what archer airguns sell ,i also started making a gas cap but the cutter bit in the lathe :-[ so back to square one i think i'm going to buy a stainless one
ped
That is oustanding ped! Those grips are very nice :-\ :-*
i've mounted the sight pretty far forward it would fit a standard breech brian
cheers ern its builds like yours that inspired me to do a pistol(used to be a good pistol shot but now i'm pretty pants)
ped
The rear sight really sets it off ped :-*
cheers chongman i'm really happy with how it's turning out can't wait for the tko trigger to come so i can sort the trigger pull out ,it's well naff at the mo
ped
Really looks nice. How does the front post work out with the Archer rear sight? It does look pretty 'kool' perched on the breech.
Carl
Quote from: chongman on January 31, 2013, 11:59:35 PM
The rear sight really sets it off ped :-*
x1 looks great Ped
Quote from: YSYEO on January 31, 2013, 02:42:34 PM
The 38T in the picture is a late model .177. with a plastic cylinder. I just checked my 38Ts, and a similar late model .177 has less space showing. I also have an early .22 with metal cylinder and it shows even less space. I guess it's just individual variation. The trick is to adjust the barrel on a case-by-case basis for smallest clearance that does not cause drag on the cylinder.
For the 38T & 38C the barrel is shimmed .004 from the cylinder, before tightening the barrel set screw.
might have to adjust the height of the front post and i might make the notch a bit bigger carl but it all lines up nice
ped
Quote from: ped on January 31, 2013, 10:42:59 PM
fitted a rear sight to my boss 2240 repeater it's the same as what archer airguns sell ,i also started making a gas cap but the cutter bit in the lathe :-[ so back to square one i think i'm going to buy a stainless one
ped
Sweet Ped :-*
I have got a DC front and rear cap is SS (same design as originals) I can do a you a deal on.
Quote from: ped on February 01, 2013, 12:02:52 AM
cheers chongman i'm really happy with how it's turning out can't wait for the tko trigger to come so i can sort the trigger pull out ,it's well naff at the mo
ped
That's gonna look soooooo good with the TKO trigger ped! Can't wait to see that :-*
I installed a long steel breech, 007 Tri-Wing cap and williams peep sight on my 2240. The breech was the old style with the small screw in the rear position, so I had to mod the Hammer so it wouldn't shear the screw. I also had to add height to the front sight, as the williams peep in the lowest position still had me shooting 2" high at 20'. I hot glued a small piece of a bamboo BBQ skewer to the top of the blade, then blackened it with a sharpie.
I drilled out to lengthen each side of the slot in the stock 1377 sight to be able to lower it further. Also drilled three holes in the front lip of my pellet trap o hold three golf tees. These are to hold up army men and plastic dinosaurs.
Not really work but i started making a drawing of the CO2 tube so when my 12" brass tube comes monday i can start making it into a CO2 tube for my 2240 :)
Finished up my first pistol mod.
I can't show the internals, but i replaced my "custom" valve out with another stock unit until i can afford to buy a FT piston and valve.
here is the finished product. i like the way it came out. needs a few more hours of polishing and maybe a brake to fit the barrel. it just looks kind of dorky with nothing on the end of it...
Sorry guys, these were taken on an Iphone, so I apologize for the picture quality
I found a cool front grip to go with the rear stock I purchased on Ebay. Also, note the stock barrel band that I carefully cut out using a dremel and razor blade. The new barrel band i got off ebay was just a rinky-dink plastic junk part that didn't do the job. I would suggest an aluminum one, but it will have to wait until later.
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr244/mosca_de_hombre/image2_zps95c3ab72.jpeg)
I was hoping to finish this up, but i don't have the appropriate facilities to finish the polish job.
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr244/mosca_de_hombre/image1_zpse2350f52.jpeg)
This is where i need to find some 1" scope rings to give me more area to place my pellets...
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr244/mosca_de_hombre/image3_zps4cac554a.jpeg)
not a pistol but i mount a new red hunting light to my storm.
Looks right dang sharp Figuarus :-*
Take an electric drill, strap it down with something so it won't get away from you. Buy a cheap polishing kit for it and do the frame up nice and shiny ;)
Quote from: chongman on February 04, 2013, 02:43:40 AM
Looks right dang sharp Figuarus :-*
Take an electric drill, strap it down with something so it won't get away from you. Buy a cheap polishing kit for it and do the frame up nice and shiny ;)
X1. Also if you want the plastic grip cover shiney go to a auto parts store and buy some stainless rocker panel tape.
just broke a tap off in the hollow probe i made, man it WAS looking fine too.
ok time to get some ss that i can work with.
i mentioned earlier that i did some work on a stock transfer port
i took some 330 grit sandpaper rolled it up very tight and stuck it in the dremel havent measured the difference yet but it opened up the transfer port easy and fast
Is that transfer port from a 1377?
Quote from: 1377x on February 04, 2013, 04:51:59 AM
i mentioned earlier that i did some work on a stock transfer port
i took some 330 grit sandpaper rolled it up very tight and stuck it in the dremel havent measured the difference yet but it opened up the transfer port easy and fast
Now that is very slick!
Quote from: 1377x on February 04, 2013, 04:51:59 AM
i mentioned earlier that i did some work on a stock transfer port
i took some 330 grit sandpaper rolled it up very tight and stuck it in the dremel havent measured the difference yet but it opened up the transfer port easy and fast
that should let a bit more air through
ped
Quote from: Figuarus on February 04, 2013, 01:51:55 AM
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr244/mosca_de_hombre/image2_zps95c3ab72.jpeg)
I like that fore grip, what type is that ?
Quote from: droid on February 04, 2013, 09:17:24 AM
I like that fore grip, what type is that ?
I like it too Gary, that's the new 760 pump arm.
Ahh. Cheers Ern :-*
Installed my new bolt handle from Chogman ( awesome )
The NcStar DAS red/green dot sight
The TKO trigger - had to file for the safety but did not have to install the set screw
very small amount of movement, I mean small ... !!! yet passes the bump test :-*
Very nice KevinP :-* good looking stuff and well fitted :-*
Veeerrry nice KevinP :-*
looks good, i do like those grips
ped
very nice indeed, KevinP :-*
:-* SWEET :-*KevinP
Very nice Kevin. I put the tasco red dot that I won in the January comps from breakfastchef on the 1377 got it sighted in and sent in my first target for the month.
Nice looking pistol Kevin. :-* :-* :-*
1911 trigger looks great on that gun. I got mine installed in the frame O.K., but I'm still waiting for my valve/pistion assembly from AirgunSmith. What's the usual lead time from John?
Quote from: KevinP on February 04, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
Installed my new bolt handle from Chogman ( awesome )
The NcStar DAS red/green dot sight
The TKO trigger - had to file for the safety but did not have to install the set screw
very small amount of movement, I mean small ... !!! yet passes the bump test :-*
That looks real sweet Kevin :-* I love silver optics on guns and it looks great with the TKO trigger.
Thank You All for the kind words ... :-*
Quote from: KevinP on February 04, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
Installed my new bolt handle from Chogman ( awesome )
The NcStar DAS red/green dot sight
The TKO trigger - had to file for the safety but did not have to install the set screw
very small amount of movement, I mean small ... !!! yet passes the bump test :-*
Subtle and elegant Mr. Kev :-*
Kevin that came out really great. Nice job. :-*
Carl
Is that a Stace barrel band?
Quote from: KevinP on February 04, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
Installed my new bolt handle from Chogman ( awesome )
The NcStar DAS red/green dot sight
The TKO trigger - had to file for the safety but did not have to install the set screw
very small amount of movement, I mean small ... !!! yet passes the bump test :-*
Did a proof of concept sear spring guide modification with a 4p nail on a standard grip frame. Nylon guide and spring travel in a straight line with no more bending on the way down.
Quote from: breakfastchef on February 05, 2013, 04:13:37 PM
Did a proof of concept sear spring guide modification with a 4p nail on a standard grip frame. Nylon guide and spring travel in a straight line with no more bending on the way down.
Show me brother, I am intrigued :)
I modified a 760 front sight to fit the 1322 and put an Archer rear sight on too :) The Weaver adapter is see-through so the open sights can still be used. I haven't tried it out yet but it looks really cool 8)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img35/6629/dscn2100m.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img145/4315/dscn2101a.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img802/5087/dscn2102m.jpg)
WOW !! I think you have outdone yourself on this one :-* :-* :-*
BigErn, that is one beautiful pistol. :-*
Thanks guys, I need to try out the open sights now to see if they really works or just looks cool ???
Splendid BigErn, very sharp looking :-*
BigErn .. nothing but awesome >>> :-*
Looks amazing Ern!
Yesterday I cut a dozen stainless steel bolt handle blanks to length and faced the ends in the lathe. I have managed to turn 4 of them into something cool (still need to be threaded) and have the rest lined up on the table wondering what they want to grow up to be.
No pictures for you yet... they will all come up for sale at the same time. I'm doing this to finance a milling attachment and end mill bits for my lathe ;)
That's a beauty big e.
Quote from: Tater on February 04, 2013, 04:53:08 AM
Is that transfer port from a 1377?
sorry for the delay!!
yes it is a transfer port from a 1377.its the same in most crosmans.the 2240,2250,2260,2400 and benji discovery
Quote from: chongman on February 05, 2013, 04:22:49 PM
Show me brother, I am intrigued :)
Cheap sear spring guide for folks with crude stone tools. There are some after-market solutions and more home shop versions I am unable to make. So I started with the basic TKO trigger kit. I drilled a 1/8" hole in the grip frame post, a matching hole in the nylon sear spring guide, and inserted a 4p nail cut to a proper length into the frame. Put a dab of lithium grease on the nail adn gave it a try. Trigger pull feels pretty even since the spring no longer buckles. YMMV
Quote from: breakfastchef on February 06, 2013, 12:42:35 AM
Cheap sear spring guide for folks with crude stone tools. There are some after-market solutions and more home shop versions I am unable to make. So I started with the basic TKO trigger kit. I drilled a 1/8" hole in the grip frame post, a matching hole in the nylon sear spring guide, and inserted a 4p nail cut to a proper length into the frame. Put a dab of lithium grease on the nail adn gave it a try. Trigger pull feels pretty even since the spring no longer buckles. YMMV
Cool idea Larry! That's pretty neat :-*
Thanks for the nice comments! Glad you guys like 1322 :-* I might polish the rear sight next.
Quote from: TLEVTA on February 05, 2013, 02:23:30 AM
1911 trigger looks great on that gun. I got mine installed in the frame O.K., but I'm still waiting for my valve/pistion assembly from AirgunSmith. What's the usual lead time from John?
it used to be around 7-10 days but with the lack of piston makers out there could be longer now
Last month, after lots of readin' (posts and threads on this forum), I decided that I had to get doin' something on my newly acquired Crosman pumper. Not wanting to go "crazy" (mod-wise) I started small. I did the basic "fluff & buff" of the trigger group. Additionally, I added a regular .22 cal case to the top of the sear spring to act as a spring guide and smooth it out some. Since all I really did was polish and lube the metal on metal contact surfaces, the only noticeable change was a smoother feel to the trigger pull. I tried to compress the factory spring somewhat to lighten the trigger pull but I didn't experience much success with that.
Well, after some more reading, I decided to kick it up a notch. I wanted to lighten the pull and knew that I needed a different spring. I wrote down a few of the part #s for the suggested springs and headed for the hardware store. Unfortunately their spring selection had a different numbering system. Since some of the suggested springs had dimensions as well as part numbers, I had a general range to choose from. I settled on one that was ~2" long x 5/16" O.D. with 0.023" wire dia.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5434.jpg)
At first I thought it might be a bit weak and a bit too long. As recommended in another trigger mod post, I was planning on lengthening the sear spring guide by using a .22 cal magnum case.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5439.jpg)
As before, I polished the magnum case and lubed the interface between the case and the sear. Fortuitously, the case length seems to be a perfect fit! With the hammer un-cocked, there is a mm or 2 of clearance between the base of the grip frame stud and the case mouth.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5432.jpg)
When the hammer is cocked, the spacing increases to maybe 5 or 6 mm. (I didn't measure either dimension).
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5430.jpg)
Since the spring is less stiff laterally, than the stock sear spring, the magnum case functions to direct all of the spring's force against the sear arm. I banged it around from all directions and was unable to make the sear release the hammer inadvertently. The trigger pull was very smooth and considerably lighter than the stock condition. Additionally, the magnum case acts as to limit trigger travel when it bottoms out on the grip frame. I'm pretty sure others have done this mod and I hope that it is working as well for them as it seems to work for me. Flex
Larry and Flex, outstanding writeup and pictures :-*
no airgun work
but i did polish the heck out of the bolt on my ruger 10-22 and ordered some other parts for it as well as did a trigger job
needs more work though. the first trigger job i did was on my 1974 ruger 10-22 was so smooth it screamed move over butter
I like your guys thinking on the trigger mod,different directions basically same results. :-*
Quote from: Flex on February 06, 2013, 02:28:57 AMAs recommended in another trigger mod post, I was planning on lengthening the sear spring guide by using a .22 cal magnum case.
Very nicely done, Flex. The magnum shell is 'drop in' simple (except maybe sizing the length)!
Quote from: breakfastchef on February 06, 2013, 04:25:46 AM
Very nicely done, Flex. The magnum shell is 'drop in' simple (except maybe sizing the length)!
I didn't size the length at all! ???. The few .22 mag cases that I had in a bag of range pick-up brass all measure out to 1.050" +/- a thousanth or 2. I can't imagine that the distance from the base of the sear spring stud on the grip frame to the contact surface of the sear varies too much on the 13xx & 22xx series Crosman airguns. This is a true "drop-in" mod. 8) Still, adjustment is possible either by placing a washer/spacer over the spring stud (to tighten things up) or by filing some brass off the mag case (if more trigger travel is desired). Best of all, everything can be removed and the gun returned to "factory settings" since there are no physical alterations made to the gun itself!! :-*. BTW, the spring was $.75 at my local hardware store and the mag case, of course, was free. ;). This mod seems like a "no-brainer" to me! Flex
I like you idea Flex :-*
I will have to try this mod Flex,having a hard time setting my tension " Thanks " :-*
Quote from: earlp8 on February 06, 2013, 03:33:45 PM
I like you idea Flex :-*
I'm sorry that I can't take much (if any) of the "concept" credit for this mod. :( I got the info from a very long, technical post by CMJ21973 that I ran across while searching for part #s. If interested search "Re: First build "Nightmare"" for the post. I did, however, do the photos of my own gun and modified some of the aspects of CMJ21973's mod. His post was quite some time ago tho, so bringing the topic into present day post will benefit newbs like me. Flex
Quote from: 1377x on February 04, 2013, 04:51:59 AM
i mentioned earlier that i did some work on a stock transfer port
i took some 330 grit sandpaper rolled it up very tight and stuck it in the dremel havent measured the difference yet but it opened up the transfer port easy and fast
thankyou :-*
my dremel recently took a dirt nap, but you have inspired me with this idea. i started with a peice of 100 grit roled up tight and started spinning it. then added a drill bit inside the paper. then went to a larger drill bit couple more times until the transfer port was about 5/32 i think. not sure i looked for the stamp only see 5/ ???. the drill bit also fits good in the valve hole. only 1 probablem with it now is the valve hole isnt centered in the opening. it is a little forward. the front side of the valve hole is flush with the oring from the factory. i pumped it once and looked like maybe the headspace is pushing the valve back a hair but not enough to center it. i was wondering if i should give the valve a pump and then pin it or is there a better way to fix this?
Quote from: turrrrdle on February 07, 2013, 07:04:13 AM
thankyou :-*
my dremel recently took a dirt nap, but you have inspired me with this idea. i started with a peice of 100 grit roled up tight and started spinning it. then added a drill bit inside the paper. then went to a larger drill bit couple more times until the transfer port was about 5/32 i think. not sure i looked for the stamp only see 5/ ???. the drill bit also fits good in the valve hole. only 1 probablem with it now is the valve hole isnt centered in the opening. it is a little forward. the front side of the valve hole is flush with the oring from the factory. i pumped it once and looked like maybe the headspace is pushing the valve back a hair but not enough to center it. i was wondering if i should give the valve a pump and then pin it or is there a better way to fix this?
that is why the very first mod i do to all my guns is the valve pinning. line up the valve hole with the tube and pin it in place keeps it all nice and secure and aligned.
I finished polishing the Archer rear sight this morning. Now I'm happy with it :)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img829/117/dscn2104n.jpg)
Nice Big E,Looks much better. :-*
Thats another good job Big E :-*
Thanks guys, it took me a while!
I see the dremel tool there with the buffing wheel still attached ... yup, would take you awhile with that! What did you use for compound? I use a chrome billett polish. I wish my trigger assemblies were on the outside of the gun .... BLING! :)
Looks good Ern.
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on February 08, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
I see the dremel tool there with the buffing wheel still attached ... yup, would take you awhile with that! What did you use for compound? I use a chrome billett polish. I wish my trigger assemblies were on the outside of the gun .... BLING! :)
Looks good Ern.
Thanks WD, I use the Dremel brand polishing compound. I started using a wire brush to take the paint off, then sandpaper from 220-1200 grit, then polish with the Dremel and compound. Took me about 2.5 hours for that piece. I even polished the bottom :o Going to change the black screw to an allen head bolt and done!
Quote from: BigErn on February 08, 2013, 11:19:01 PM
I use the Dremel brand polishing compound.
I think I have some of that somewhere .... its like jewelers rogue/rugue/ ... oh, however you spell it. LOL!!
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on February 09, 2013, 12:23:10 AM
I think I have some of that somewhere .... its like jewelers rogue/rugue/ ... oh, however you spell it. LOL!!
Home Depot and Lowes should have the Porter-Cable or Ryobi brand compounds. Have plenty of felt poishing wheels on hand and use one per grit of poishing compound. The Dremel wire sheels are great for removing paint and other coatings prior to polishing.
Got up checked the forum,out to the garage and put a new seal in the Daisy 1200,free from Daisy, shot it,checked the forum,shot the1377, checked the forum, sharpened some knives, checked the forum ,shot the 1377 checked the forum.Wow what a day ;D
"Done" time to enjoy this,have ideas for my next one,my first one :) what a change from when I found it in the shed ( wife wanted to throw it away) 8) thanks for the help all Kevin (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/mybike2/DSCN3870.jpg) (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/mybike2/DSCN3868.jpg)
Quote from: tipper1 on February 10, 2013, 01:25:08 AM
"Done" time to enjoy this,have ideas for my next one,my first one :) what a change from when I found it in the shed ( wife wanted to throw it away)
Great job saving another American Classic!
That's just awesome Tipper. Sweet pistola.
Quote from: tipper1 on February 10, 2013, 01:25:08 AM
"Done" time to enjoy this,have ideas for my next one,my first one :) what a change from when I found it in the shed ( wife wanted to throw it away) 8) thanks for the help all Kevin (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/mybike2/DSCN3870.jpg) (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/mybike2/DSCN3868.jpg)
Very, very good job :-* :-* :-*
Very fine pistol and I do like your stand :-*
You do good work tipper1 :-* I need to look for some oldies....... :)
My first attempt at my Extreme Lightened Delrin Hammers for use in my Crosman target guns.
Carl
My second attempt at my Extreme Lightened Delrin Hammer (ELDH) for use in my Crosman target shooters. This one was completed yesterday and is the final design I will be using for the next five I am going to make. It makes use of the 1701P adjustable striker and my own version of a removable cocking pin. Which, by the way, works exquisite as does the hammer. You cannot believe how smooth my test gun shoots with this hammer installed. The 2300S hammer weighs in at 57.9 grams. My new ELDH weighs in at 16 grams. That is a 72.3% weight reduction.
Carl
Keep the info coming on the ELDH....I'll bet its smooth, faster hammer, less lock time, and same energy
You may be on to something :-* ...Thanks :)
Carl:
Are you lubing the hammers?
Why did you decide to not mill the flats on the hammer sides in the final version?
Are you using a stock hammer spring and stock valve spring? Or are you only using the striker to make adjustments?
Quote from: breakfastchef on February 10, 2013, 05:02:40 AM
Carl:
Are you lubing the hammers?
Why did you decide to not mill the flats on the hammer sides in the final version?
Are you using a stock hammer spring and stock valve spring? Or are you only using the striker to make adjustments?
Right now I have found no need to lube the hammers. The Delrin is plenty slick and appears to not need any extranal lube. Could change in time and only time will tell. So far I've only shot about 300 pellets with this set up.
I didn't think I needed an escape route for any air pressure build up when the hammer closes. Not sure how to test this. I have each one of the first two in two different guns and right now I can tell no difference in the way they shoot.
Both of my test guns use built up 2250B tubes and the 2300s rear velocity adjuster, because I had them laying around. Both guns use the 2300s valve with brass sleeve volume reducer and new transfer port sleeves I made that give me a 65% decrease in transfer port sleeve size. The orifice is 0.082" versus 0.140" for the OEM piece. Remeber these are CO2 powered target shooters. Both valves also use the 2240 trigger spring as the valve spring and the hammer spring that comes with the 2300s RVA. This spring is not the same as the 23XX or 13Xx guns.
I can make use of the striker adjustment but have not done that just yet. There are so many things to test with these new hammers that it will take me a month to get it all done.
Carl
Mr. Quick PM sent. Best regards.
Awesome Carl!! Some very nice machine work and screwing in the hammer pin makes perfect sense for the soft delrin :-*
What kind of FPS are you seeing with that set up??
Rich
Just finished polishing up a Brass Muzzle Brake for Noah. Coated with ICE car wax to see if it helps to retain the bling.
(http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae317/Arkmaker/LDC%20and%20MBs/100_0175_zpsaaae4052.jpg)
(http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae317/Arkmaker/LDC%20and%20MBs/100_0174_zps82b6d51b.jpg)
That sir, is serious bling and so finely machined!!!
WOW ... NICE !!!! :-* :-\
Beautiful work! :-\
(http://www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/148688931/original.jpg)
That's a beauty Ark.
Wow nice arkmaker ,need the shades 8)
Quote from: turrrrdle on February 07, 2013, 07:04:13 AM
thankyou :-*
my dremel recently took a dirt nap, but you have inspired me with this idea. i started with a peice of 100 grit roled up tight and started spinning it. then added a drill bit inside the paper. then went to a larger drill bit couple more times until the transfer port was about 5/32 i think. not sure i looked for the stamp only see 5/ ???. the drill bit also fits good in the valve hole. only 1 probablem with it now is the valve hole isnt centered in the opening. it is a little forward. the front side of the valve hole is flush with the oring from the factory. i pumped it once and looked like maybe the headspace is pushing the valve back a hair but not enough to center it. i was wondering if i should give the valve a pump and then pin it or is there a better way to fix this?
im a little late to the party but if you havent changed anything open up the exhaust ports that should line things back up ;)
mine is opened up to 11/64 no blockages
Quote from: BigErn on February 08, 2013, 11:19:01 PM
Thanks WD, I use the Dremel brand polishing compound. I started using a wire brush to take the paint off, then sandpaper from 220-1200 grit, then polish with the Dremel and compound. Took me about 2.5 hours for that piece. I even polished the bottom :o Going to change the black screw to an allen head bolt and done!
i use sandpaper now for polishing then the dremel then flitz as the final polish makes metal shine real nice
good job big ern
and tipper you did a great job bringing that old classsic back to life
i dont know if i mentioned it already but i was inspired by ped's heat shrink wrap on his fine shooter so i ended up doing some of my ldc's in black heat shrink came out perty good not the same stuff ped used but it is sure is a heck ofa lot easier than paintind them.the heat shrink also adds some bump protection along with taking some of the ping out :-*
Finally got my off brand Outdoorsman stock fitted. Now for the fore-stock! PIA for sure. I am no wood worker ;D
First pic of it on a standard 2240 trigger frame. Second pic on a 1701P trigger frame.
Still need to re-stain and seal. You can see my botched attempt at stippleing. So bad! Seemed easy enough, but I will need a bunch more practice. Next time on a scrap piece of wood.
(http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae317/Arkmaker/Outdoorsman/100_0177_zps700e1dc9.jpg)
(http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae317/Arkmaker/Outdoorsman/100_0178_zps549f08e4.jpg)
I'm sure it will be quite nice when you're done. What are you going to finish it with? I'm a big fan of tung oil,I did my dad's Benjamin and my Sheridan with it am real happy with the results.
Hey 1377x nice call on the sp1 very nice works great :-*
nice work on the hammer carl :-*, be good to see what results such a light hammer gives
your brake is the finest i've seen arkmaker 8)
i've also used tung oil and had good results
ped
Quote from: arkmaker on February 11, 2013, 12:10:02 AM
Finally got my off brand Outdoorsman stock fitted. Now for the fore-stock! PIA for sure. I am no wood worker ;D
Rich when you say off brand, who made the stock for you? I am presuming that it is not the Crosman piece although it looks identical.
Carl
I got the stock in a box lot deal. Lots of good stuff. It is made by Tree Rat Hunter. Just needed some fitting to frame. The fore stock will need to have the ID opened up a hair as well.
I was thinking of straining with a Honey Pine and then use Tung oil on top of it. I did the same with my 114 using dark walnut stain and it came out great.
Thanks for the comment on the brake, makes me feel good!
Rich
I made some gun stands awhile back. Chongman told me some he liked on Ebay and I went by that. They were okay. Did the job, I suppose. Chongman got one for pointing them out to me and I kept the other ones around a few weeks until they sold. After they were gone, I realized I needed some more... and I mean for me. :-[ ... Bunch of nice guns laying around like boneless chickens. Disgusting, I tell you. ;D
So, what is it I did not like about the others? Simply that they did not hold the front of OUR guns like I want them to. Our top heavy guns with scopes and then the 13xx with their pump arms all the way out to the barrel...
So these new ones are much less likely to tip all the way over if the gun gets bumped. You have to insert the 22xx or 13xx into the hole. The best fit for the 22xx is to put the barrel band in the cradle. On the 13xx you can put them anywhere on the pump arm as you like.
The acrylic is 3/8" thick. The cradles are felted. The wood is hickory. The joining method is epoxy.
Hope you like. Oh, and please excuse the dust in the pictures. The cleaning lady went to bed hours ago. ;)
Me likee. :-*
Turned out nice ... :-*
Once again, that "gotta have" feeling is all over me ;D
Very well done my friend and I look forward to scoring one if I can beat the stampede :-*
Good design Davio :-* I need something like that too :)
Quote from: tipper1 on February 11, 2013, 01:00:18 AM
Hey 1377x nice call on the sp1 very nice works great :-*
glad you like it!!!
i sure like mine.its nice and light too. i have a tasco pdp3 rd its nice also but its a little on the heavy side so i am putting on my OOGIE BOOGIE gun its for short range pesting so a scope really isnt necessary
on another note
i moulded some .25 pellets from my beeman/lem pellet mould.i have no idea what i am doing so i need to read up on bullet/pellet moulding
the first one came out pretty nice then the second one had some issues maybe the lube ran out or something but some research is definitely called for
heres a pic of my mould
Quote from: 1377x on February 12, 2013, 02:33:12 AM
glad you like it!!!
i sure like mine.its nice and light too. i have a tasco pdp3 rd its nice also but its a little on the heavy side so i am putting on my OOGIE BOOGIE gun its for short range pesting so a scope really isnt necessary
on another note
i moulded some .25 pellets from my beeman/lem pellet mould.i have no idea what i am doing so i need to read up on bullet/pellet moulding
the first one came out pretty nice then the second one had some issues maybe the lube ran out or something but some research is definitely called for
heres a pic of my mould
If you haven't already found a source of info about lead casting.
http://www.zjstech.net/gunstuff/casting.html (http://www.zjstech.net/gunstuff/casting.html)
thats a rare thing you've got there ed (i think they stopped making them in the eighties when mr mcgquire retired)
never really cast pellets but do make a lot of fishing leads and jig heads and i've found that the first couple are not very good due to the mould not being up to temp, after that the're usually ok
how hot are you getting your lead?
i seem to recall that these lead moulds were hard to use and the pellet was only suitable for rifles in excess of 12fpe due to there weight,hope you get the hang of it ed as they'll go well in that monster .25 you've got
ped
Well not actually did but had done..Powdercoated grips and bb all for $3.65..It was originally $2.43 but I did not like the flat black version ( my decision at 1st ) so I had it redone and they charged me an extra $1.22..Included are pics of my fave pellets they are locally made and are a tight fit for the Crosman barrels but Crosman Premieres, RWS and JSBs just can't beat them..All my Crosmans except the 1 w/ a Lothar barrel ( it likes JSBs) become 1 holers..Unfortunately the factory who makes them is no longer in business..I bought about 280 plastic containers of the Eaglehead 8.8 grain domes ( I got lucky I found some in a hardware store in a rural area an old stock ) x 150 = 42,000 pellets..Sold some to my friends though..The Hammerhead wads are still aplenty in various stores being not very good for long distance shooting..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4429_zpse5bc27f8.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4426_zps2639f5a4.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4439_zpsa5481d40.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4441_zps8fee3a9c.jpg)
..ain't she smooth 8)
Turned out nice !!! :-*
Yes sir and super cheap too 8)
Real nice finish :-* What's with the pins in the frame ???
Very nice!!!!
Quote from: chongman on February 12, 2013, 02:12:02 PM
Real nice finish :-* What's with the pins in the frame ???
Thanks Mr. CM..They are not pins them are pellets dear sir :)
OK, my eyes are a little fuzzy this morning ;D
QuoteThanks Mr. CM..They are not pins them are pellets dear sir :)
Did you do that for the photo or was it to keep the powder coat out of the holes?
Edit: Come to think of it, they wouldn't have fit in the screw holes and you have more pellets than there are holes. I just don't think of using all of the props you guys use in your photos.
Cheers,
Quote from: crossliner on February 12, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
Yes sir and super cheap too 8)
Meh. I get all mine done for free. ;D
Quote from: JEBert on February 13, 2013, 03:50:45 AM
Did you do that for the photo or was it to keep the powder coat out of the holes?
Edit: Come to think of it, they wouldn't have fit in the screw holes and you have more pellets than there are holes. I just don't think of using all of the props you guys use in your photos.
Cheers,
Mr. JB a good observation..I plugged the holes w/ rolled paper and at the time I took some pics there were still there..I accidentally poured more pellets as intended so I just put them some of the excess on the grips erratically for show.
Quote from: Davio on February 13, 2013, 06:58:40 AM
Meh. I get all mine done for free. ;D
Mr. Davio I think we had a bit of misunderstanding I apologize..We are all friends here and I find it uncomfortable to have some sort of a friction w/ others. Your powdercoating job is very nice and this will benefit members who are w/in your periphery. Best regards.
looks nice, why not the trigger cover, no powder coat on it :-*
Quote from: tipper1 on February 13, 2013, 01:24:39 PM
looks nice, why not the trigger cover, no powder coat on it :-*
The trigger plate is plastic sir 8)
opps sorry mine is metal :-*
finished my muzzel brake and just got my 14'' barrel in the mail......today I'll make a new hammerspring cap to accept a shoulder stock then I can rebuild with these parts.......now to find a nice scope
Quote from: ped on February 12, 2013, 09:54:25 AM
thats a rare thing you've got there ed (i think they stopped making them in the eighties when mr mcgquire retired)
never really cast pellets but do make a lot of fishing leads and jig heads and i've found that the first couple are not very good due to the mould not being up to temp, after that the're usually ok
how hot are you getting your lead?
i seem to recall that these lead moulds were hard to use and the pellet was only suitable for rifles in excess of 12fpe due to there weight,hope you get the hang of it ed as they'll go well in that monster .25 you've got
ped
im heating the lead up to medium high heat.thats what the instructions say to use.it also says try different temps find the temp it works best with
from the reading i have done the spitzer pellet it makes didnt do to well in sub 12ftlbs guns but my gun is spitting 50gn bullets at over 800fps so the lighter 32gn pellet this mould makes should be closer to 900fps. the 42gn pellets i shoot are running 869fps thats with a 2400psi fill.i use a 3000psi fill havent chronied it yet,not much time for that
luckily i got over 5lbs of lead to play with since its old premium pellets im melting down i can say its premium pellets i am making ;)
i can get as much lead i can carry for free,its going to be fun making these pellets.i am also looking to get some more moulds for heavier bullets wouldnt mind finding a hollow tip mould i have seen .25acp moulds which is what size my barrel is.just dont know which to get,yet
Quote from: 1377x on February 13, 2013, 11:03:42 PM
... since its old premium pellets im melting down ....
Is that what you guys do with your used pellets?? I've got a couple cat food cans full, and I dont know what to do with them. I was thinking fishing weights, but I dont fish much anymore
Hey 1377x i am putting in a order for 250 of them thanks :-* :-* :-* Kevin
Quote from: tipper1 on February 14, 2013, 02:07:02 AM
Hey 1377x i am putting in a order for 250 of them thanks :-* :-* :-* Kevin
If this works like the guy's on youtube's pellet maker you couldn't possibly be able to afford 250 pellets. So labor intensive to make pellets one at a time. Great for the perfectionest at home, bad for someone trying to make a few bucks ;)
was hoping he would ship out by friday :-*
Quote from: Rex Havoc on February 14, 2013, 02:53:59 AM
. So labor intensive to make pellets one at a time.
Very cool Ed and I know your having fun :-*
Quote from: chongman on February 14, 2013, 03:36:57 AM
Very cool Ed and I know your having fun :-*
yeah, its fun!! and a learning experience. these pellets are 31gn maybe 32gn and too light for my gun getting the right sized pellet from a custom pellet maker is very expensive.now i am looking at 2 and 4 bullet molds 42gn/50gn, the 50gn bullets shoot at the velocity i want
in the long run it will be best to mold my own bullet and pellets for the .25 since the available pellets are to light
I worked on my 2240 today put on a Crosman breech,grips from Rick,the Velocity bolt handle from chongman, in a Mellon extended probe,and a Millet SP-1 red dot in BSA rings.
(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/targettgii/Airgunpics018_zpse9b076b5.jpg)
(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/targettgii/Airgunpics016_zps02ff3a2b.jpg)
Nicely done! I like your choice of mounting position of the SP-1. I do see, in my crystal ball, a TKO carbon fiber 5" muzzle brake in your future.
Quote from: targettgii on February 16, 2013, 05:13:06 AM
I worked on my 2240 today put on a Crosman breech,grips from Rick,the Velocity bolt handle from chongman,and a Millet SP-1 red dot in BSA rings.
My god Chef you must be psychic. That and the barrel off my 1322 when I get all the parts together for that I have a 15" Mellon barrel for it.
I am more psychotic and psychic. Just sayin...
Quote from: targettgii on February 16, 2013, 05:23:45 AM
My god Chef you must be psychic. That and the barrel off my 1322 when I get all the parts together for that I have a 15" Mellon barrel for it.
Put a couple of thick paper shims under the back mount of the scope on my 2400 KT. I wasn't really trying but the first group was inside a nickle :-*
I'll get out some more tomorrow but that might be a mistake. Today it's almost 60*, who knows what tomorrow might be :P
Bore sighted my 2240 took about minutes I used one of the CP lazer models.Dog and cat enjoyed it also.
Made an aluminium CO2 cover for a SA6. :-*
In building up a new 2240 gun for one of my friends I ran into a problem with adding a front sight. The problem occurs when cutting the barrel to a length of around 6" or less and in my case it was to be a 6" barrel. Using the OEM 2240 tube and gas cap there is just not much room for the conventional sight. And I really didn't want to add a red dot or scope.
So what to do. Ponder... Ponder... Ponder... Ah, an idea, and this is only the first attempt. It will be refined because it works out pretty darn good.
Okay I took an 8-32 stainless screw with a long thread-less shoulder and cut it to the proper length, which took some fiddling to get it just right. Then I cut the threaded end so that it will work in the front barrel band and Voila!!!
Carl
More on this later...
Quote from: quickster47 on February 17, 2013, 03:01:23 PM
In building up a new 2240 gun for one of my friends I ran into a problem with adding a front sight. The problem occurs when cutting the barrel to a length of around 6" or less and in my case it was to be a 6" barrel. Using the OEM 2240 tube and gas cap there is just not much room for the conventional sight. And I really didn't want to add a red dot or scope.
So what to do. Ponder... Ponder... Ponder... Ah, an idea, and this is only the first attempt. It will be refined because it works out pretty darn good.
Okay I took an 8-32 stainless screw with a long thread-less shoulder and cut it to the proper length, which took some fiddling to get it just right. Then I cut the threaded end so that it will work in the front barrel band and Voila!!!
Carl
More on this later...
I did this on my 2240 a while back and it works! I used a long SS set screw.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img521/6797/dscn1626n.jpg)
Quote from: quickster47 on February 17, 2013, 03:01:23 PMOkay I took an 8-32 stainless screw with a long thread-less shoulder and cut it to the proper length, which took some fiddling to get it just right. Then I cut the threaded end so that it will work in the front barrel band and Voila!!!
Existing holes are often very useful. Nice machining job on the screw.
Finished the polish job on my grip frame :D If you are thinking about doing this, it took me 8 hours to finish :o
(http://imageshack.us/a/img195/9440/dscn2163s.jpg)
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Dang that's nice :o
What will you use to protect it?
Quote from: chongman on February 18, 2013, 03:24:51 PM
Dang that's nice :o
What will you use to protect it?
Not sure yet chong ??? What do you do?
WoW .. nice job ... :-* :-\
Absolutely Beau-ti-ful!!! I see ZAMAC can bling up nice :-*
Thanks for posting :) .....wonder if a lacquer or clear coat protection would work ???
Very nice polish job :-*
Lots of hard work but it really did pay off. Nice polish job. :-*
Carl
Quote from: BigErn on February 18, 2013, 03:35:22 PM
Not sure yet chong ??? What do you do?
A clear coat over bare metal is tricky, can change the look. Because it's going to be handled, even more so. I've not tried anything on a frame yet.
Car wax? I tried some ICE on a brass muzzle brake, but it to soon to tell if it will slow the tarnish effect. What about Mothers for aluminum?
ERN, you have earned (pun intended) your ranking as a prince of mods. Your work is always superb!! RC
Ern, that is one of the nicest polish jobs I've ever seen. It looks plated its so smooth. Shame it will tarnish. But whatever you used on the last buffing will probably get off the oxidation periodically. I thought of using spray lacquer, but eventually swapped out my polished frame for a 1701 and never got around to polishing that one.
Excellent work. Very nice, Big Ern.
WOW great job Big Ern looks awesome. :-* :-* :-*
Big Ern is now in the big leagues of airgun polishers!
Ern you is the polishing master dude :-*
What a cracking job, I have been polishing one for months and it's so boring I just spend 10 minutes on it then walk away. Hats off for you perseverance and a stunning end product.
Quote from: chongman on February 18, 2013, 04:51:02 PM
A clear coat over bare metal is tricky, can change the look. Because it's going to be handled, even more so. I've not tried anything on a frame yet.
+1 to that, there are some clear coat products that are not supposed to turn "milky" when applied to bare metal but... the problem is the chem reaction to the coating. Alum and Zinc alloys being the worst. Probably best to just keep using a neutral ph wax and polish as needed.
Very nice Mr. BE. Tried waxing mine to prolong its sheen but in the end I had it powdercoated. Too much hassle to maintain its shine you should wear gloves at all times lol!
Even better... clear powder-coat :-*
Quote from: BDS on February 19, 2013, 05:26:53 PM
Even better... clear powder-coat :-*
Now there is a very interesting concept. Need to talk to my powder coat friend about how feasible that is.
Great suggestion! :-*
Carl
Out on the left coast, you will often see aluminum railings built around the beach front walkways and boat docks and the alum tubing and fittings are clear powder coated, looks good and is waaay durable. Not sure how much chemical prep the aluminum gets before coating and baking but, it's gotta be a simple, fast process to allow 1000's of feet of it to be made cost effectively? ( like steel and rust never sleeps, neither does alum-oxide)
Whether the Zinc alloy gun frames can be processed the same way is the biq question.
Well the good times don't last long do they :D The grip frame already started to fade after just one use >:( It happens only where the hand touches the frame, I was thinking about one of the Houge (I think it's called) rubber slip on grips that I have seen. Someone here had one but I can't remember who it was or what thread it was on. Anyone have one and what do you guys think about it? It's too much work to polish the frame after every use. I might just paint the frame matte silver if I can't figure this out.
Like these Hogue slip-on grips Ern? http://www.hoguestore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=114&products_id=6659 (http://www.hoguestore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=114&products_id=6659)
They have a lot of others on that website :-*
Quote from: BDS on February 20, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
Like these Hogue slip-on grips Ern? http://www.hoguestore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=114&products_id=6659 (http://www.hoguestore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=114&products_id=6659)
They have a lot of others on that website :-*
Thanks B!!! That's the one buddy, I'm going to try it before I paint this thing.
Marine wax works. Clear powdercoat probably best solution.
I ordered a couple of Hogue Handalls hoping to fit one on one of my Crosman pistols and the other on one of my powder burner pistols and neither one fit well. The one on the Crosman grip was very loose at the top edge when it was tight and just clear of the bottom so that it had the finger cutouts in the right place. Didn't fit any of my powder-burner pistols any better. $30 lesson.
They are available if anyone is interested.
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on February 21, 2013, 06:03:42 AM
I ordered a couple of Hogue Handalls hoping to fit one on one of my Crosman pistols and the other on one of my powder burner pistols and neither one fit well. The one on the Crosman grip was very loose at the top edge when it was tight and just clear of the bottom so that it had the finger cutouts in the right place. Didn't fit any of my powder-burner pistols any better. $30 lesson.
They are available if anyone is interested.
Cheers,
Thanks for that clarification Jerry. Was sort of curious about how they would work out.
And this time I'm glad it was you and not me that did the research. :D
Carl
Last time I was a at the range they had a box full of hougue grips. 2 bucks each. Cheapos. I should have grabbed a couple. ???
Finished today .... all its missing is a TKO muzzle and extended probe.
(http://www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/148894665/large.jpg)
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on February 21, 2013, 09:14:09 PM
Finished today .... all its missing is a TKO muzzle and extended probe.
(http://www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/148894665/large.jpg)
Lookin good ... :-*
Quote from: BigErn on February 20, 2013, 02:33:10 PM
Well the good times don't last long do they :D The grip frame already started to fade after just one use >:( It happens only where the hand touches the frame, I was thinking about one of the Houge (I think it's called) rubber slip on grips that I have seen. Someone here had one but I can't remember who it was or what thread it was on. Anyone have one and what do you guys think about it? It's too much work to polish the frame after every use. I might just paint the frame matte silver if I can't figure this out.
looks good
i would try some eezox on it
then after each use wipe it down with a little eezox and store away
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on February 21, 2013, 09:14:09 PM
Finished today .... all its missing is a TKO muzzle and extended probe.
(http://www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/148894665/large.jpg)
What do you guys use to highlight the lettering on the tube? White crayon? ???
Ed; what is eezox? I just did a yahoo search and nothing came up.
Quote from: mudduck48 on February 21, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
Ed; what is eezox? I just did a yahoo search and nothing came up.
You used the wrong search engine, try Google :)
Quote from: Tater on February 21, 2013, 10:15:32 PM
What do you guys use to highlight the lettering on the tube? White crayon? ???
I went into a nail salon and got a tube of nail polish for applying french tips. It has a very fine applicator. Your gonna get some on the outside of the letters no matter how hard you try not to .... just wipe it off with a q-tip ... wait for everything to dry, and then very lightly use a q-tip with nail polish remover (acetone) to remove whats left.
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on February 21, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
I went into a nail salon and got a tube of nail polish for applying french tips. It has a very fine applicator. Your gonna get some on the outside of the letters no matter how hard you try not to .... just wipe it off with a q-tip ... wait for everything to dry, and then very lightly use a q-tip with nail polish remover (acetone) to remove whats left.
Thanks, I wonder if white-out would work. I know we have that at home.
I would think it would chip easily .... ???
I use nail polish for lots of things, so I went right in search of it. I particularly like to use it as a thread locker
Quote from: 1377x on February 21, 2013, 09:49:34 PM
looks good
i would try some eezox on it
then after each use wipe it down with a little eezox and store away
Cool ED! Where can I find this eezox stuff?
Quote from: KevinP on February 21, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
Lookin good ... :-*
Great job WD! Nice touch highlighting the letters. I like that scope, what is it? Shiny :)
Quote from: BigErn on February 21, 2013, 11:04:24 PM
Cool ED! Where can I find this eezox stuff?
I Google'd it and there seems to be many places you can get it online.
Quote from: BigErn on February 21, 2013, 11:06:48 PM
Great job WD! Nice touch highlighting the letters. I like that scope, what is it? Shiny :)
Its a Bushnell Sportview 3-9x32 Rifle Scope ..... roundabout 20 years old and the optics are still perfect. Gonna put some pellets through the gun tonight and she how it does. :)
Here is the easiest of places: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=eezox (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=eezox)
That's where I get mine.
Carl
Quote from: BigErn on February 21, 2013, 11:04:24 PM
Cool ED! Where can I find this eezox stuff?
Here is one place.
http://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com/pl-eezox.html#eezox (http://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com/pl-eezox.html#eezox)
Quote from: Rex Havoc on February 21, 2013, 10:23:22 PM
You used the wrong search engine, try Google :)
Me google and it came up. Went back to yahoo and put in Eezox gun care and it came up. Thanks.
If your not "anti-ebay" you can get it there, I did.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eezox-Premium-Gun-Care-4-oz-Can-/350708341043?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a7d89933 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eezox-Premium-Gun-Care-4-oz-Can-/350708341043?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a7d89933)
Quote from: BigErn on February 21, 2013, 11:04:24 PM
Cool ED! Where can I find this eezox stuff?
i buy mine on ebay this seller ships really fast
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eezox-Premium-Gun-Care-4-oz-Can-/350708341043?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a7d89933 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eezox-Premium-Gun-Care-4-oz-Can-/350708341043?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a7d89933)
or
try your lgs
i use this stuff quite a bit.mostly for corossion and rust protection not much of a lube imo but it does lube
i like mil-comm tw25b for a lube
check out this link its an eezox test
http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html (http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html)
Last build almost finished tonight with parts from the spare parts drawer and polished tube, barrel band and barrel from Gary.
Still needs a decent breech.
Rich
(http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae317/Arkmaker/2240%20Polished/100_0197_zpsa333ec3f.jpg)
(http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae317/Arkmaker/2240%20Polished/100_0200_zps41f87426.jpg)
Serious shine going on brother :-*
Lookin good ... :-*
Nice builds WD40 and Rich.
Nice carbine WD. Does that have one of those B&A barrels you have been talking about on it? Love the white lettering... nice touch! Haven't seen that one yet.
That is a cool look Rich! Like the contrasts of the look in the parts. Very Cool!
Quote from: Brent on February 22, 2013, 05:52:33 AM
Nice carbine WD. Does that have one of those B&A barrels you have been talking about on it? Love the white lettering... nice touch! Haven't seen that one yet.
That is a cool look Rich! Like the contrasts of the look in the parts. Very Cool!
Thanks Brent ... Yes, It has the B&A 18" barrel on it. Spent some time with it last night getting the scope focus and parallex settled in. (Doubly problematic was the 3-9 magnification). I got it reasonably sighted in but I'm getting a flier every 4th or 5th shot. Barrel might need some seasoning, or I may need to get to a different pellet. I'm very happy with the cosmetics ... and more so when the TKO muzzle comes in. Now the fun starts when I can sit down to a couple different makes of pellets to see what it likes.
covered my bare ldcs :o
2 i did in heat shrink tubing have a 3rd that will get it too when needed and one in carbon fiberwrap
i was going to cover the shroud with carbon fiber wrap in heat shrink tubing also but got scared of melting the inside.its an accustoms shroud and he isnt making parts anymore.would hate to destroy a very effective classic
Cool stuff. I actually like the heat shrink ones better, nd I have almost the same carbon fiber one.
the carbon fiber wrapped shroud is an accustoms make.it was is polished aluminum and was getting beat up thats why i had to cover it with something
it is 9" long 3/4"od and up to 5" of the barrel can go into the shroud.very effective when placed on low powered guns under 12fpe that i can say
the long heat shrink shroud is 12"L 1"OD .it can handle 50fpe no problem it needs some work done before i can assemble it.
the shorter one tha is heat shrinked is 8"L and effective
the heat shrink really changes the feel.i know if it gets bumped or dropped it is protected.the cf wrap is only doing so much,it is vinyl so it has some durability
i have an anthony storey ldc bead blasted aluminum construction very effective i thought about covering ,too, since i really dont have a use for it i might let it go and let the next owner choose the finish
Mounted the cheapo 4-16x40 Leapers scope on my 2400KT..I like it better than the 4-12x50 Hawke it looks more appropriate..I also like the weight..Also did a bit of shooting today..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4456_zps571132f5.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4455_zps70db7071.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0122_zps8b82397e.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0127_zpsb9125a4e.jpg)
looking good!
is that a can on the powder burner rifle?
Yes sir it's a muzzlebrake..The ar is this brand in 5.56..
http://www.lewismachine.net/ (http://www.lewismachine.net/)
It's an LMT Guardian w/ a 10.5' barrel. Your very own special forces use this gun so it ain't no ordinary baby. Sweet shooter the recoil is very manageable. Sorry for the ot. Best regards.
Quote from: crossliner on February 23, 2013, 01:03:46 PM
Yes sir it's a muzzlebrake..The ar is this brand in 5.56..
http://www.lewismachine.net/ (http://www.lewismachine.net/)
It's an LMT Guardian w/ a 10.5' barrel. Your very own special forces use this gun so it ain't no ordinary baby. Sweet shooter the recoil is very manageable. Sorry for the ot. Best regards.
gun of the day looked like you had a few that day
is that a lc9 in your pocket? maybe a lcp?
Quote from: 1377x on February 23, 2013, 08:36:33 PM
gun of the day looked like you had a few that day
is that a lc9 in your pocket? maybe a lcp?
You have a sharp eye Mr. 13 yes it's a Ruger LCP it's my daily carry..Recently got a Crimson Trace laser for it along w/ a Leapers scope from amazon.con my cuz handcarried it from CA but I have not zeroed it yet..Tha CTC laser is almost $500 in the Phils..Big difference I got it for only $200..Btw I do not own the LMT M4 it's my nephew's..Price in the Phils. is aroung $12k but the dude is already a millionaire at such a young age of 27. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0062_zpsa3f30c79.jpg)
cool the zombie edition laser!!! :-*
i had a lcp myself but traded it for a compact .45acp with 10 rounds instead of 6 ;)
Good choice Mr. 13..My full size is a Tanfoglio in 9mm..This Ruger fits my pocket nicely though I jam it deep and people think I have 2 cellphones in my pocket..It's a norm in the Phils. to have 2-3 cellphones btw so they don't notice it..Best regards.
Playing with the wife's 2240...shhh....she doesn't know. ;)
10" barrel in .25cal, stainless bolt and bolt handle. Lighter sear spring and TKO trigger...need to install the little grub screw yet. Lots more to be done inside when time permits. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3813_zps49aa3b03.jpg)
Barrel is milled for a poly tube, o-ring is set into the breech end of the barrel...seating it in the breech retains it.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3818_zps8e4c1148.jpg)
Think I'll shorten the bolt a touch more...just a touch though. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3817_zps72ebfa53.jpg)
The business end.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3820_zpsd6fe24ab.jpg)
Al
Nice :-*
Like that barrel allot!
Real nice, as usual, Al. Where did you score the .25 brrel?
Thanks. :) I have a somewhat healthy stock of .25 blanks. ;)
Al
I dig your bolt handle Al :-*
Gorgeous barrel there Al.
Truly an AiRTISAN.
Quote from: Gippeto on February 26, 2013, 03:15:57 AM
Playing with the wife's 2240...shhh....she doesn't know. ;)
10" barrel in .25cal, stainless bolt and bolt handle. Lighter sear spring and TKO trigger...need to install the little grub screw yet. Lots more to be done inside when time permits. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3813_zps49aa3b03.jpg)
Barrel is milled for a poly tube, o-ring is set into the breech end of the barrel...seating it in the breech retains it.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3818_zps8e4c1148.jpg)
Think I'll shorten the bolt a touch more...just a touch though. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3817_zps72ebfa53.jpg)
The business end.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3820_zpsd6fe24ab.jpg)
Al
WOW!!!
excellent job on the barrel!!!
does that mean no o-ring on the the bolt?
like the bolt handle!
Really nice work Gippeto. :-* :-* :-*
That came out real nice ... :-*
Added a brass safety and a budget barrel band :D
(http://imageshack.us/a/img715/7095/dscn2187t.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/3136/dscn2189i.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img43/6896/dscn2191c.jpg)
Quote from: 1377x on February 26, 2013, 08:23:41 AM
does that mean no o-ring on the the bolt?
Correct. :) Altered my first Marauder barrel in this fashion to fit it to a 22xx breech and liked the way it worked so kept doing it.
Bolt handle is a groovy little thing isn't it. :)
Al
Excellent work as usual, Al! :-*
Quote from: Gippeto on February 26, 2013, 04:16:08 AM
Thanks. :) I have a somewhat healthy stock of .25 blanks. ;)
Oh, you do, huh?....Hmm...... ;D
Todd
I put a 14.5" .22 barrel and steel breech on my 1377, then put the 10.1" .177 barrel from that onto my 2240.
DaveB50: Did you just drill out the 1377 plastic barrel band to 7/16" diameter? Slip fit? Slight press fit or...?
I think I voided my warranty. LOL Took my 1322 apart to change parts.
Quote from: Gippeto on February 26, 2013, 03:19:45 PM
Correct. :) Altered my first Marauder barrel in this fashion to fit it to a 22xx breech and liked the way it worked so kept doing it.
Bolt handle is a groovy little thing isn't it. :)
Al
i take it you dont get any leakage with that set up
in your opinion ,with the exception of the marauder , do you think that set up will handle high power better than the standard bolt/o-ring seal?
hope this is understandable
So I get the bottom end back together and I forgot to look at the transfer port. This is a brass valve out of a phaze 2 1377 rebuilt. Stuffed in and IT does not line up with the hole. The second pic shows it with a new seal. NOW WHAT!! Keep going or back up and put the allum valve back in. I'm going to put the Crosman steel breech, blue fork barrel band and mim sight on.
Quote from: mudduck48 on February 26, 2013, 08:04:03 PM
So I get the bottom end back together and I forgot to look at the transfer port. This is a brass valve out of a phaze 2 1377 rebuilt. Stuffed in and IT does not line up with the hole. The second pic shows it with a new seal. NOW WHAT!! Keep going or back up and put the allum valve back in. I'm going to put the Crosman steel breech, blue fork barrel band and mim sight on.
open the exhaust port to 11/64 .the exhaust port in my brass valve is a lot larger than 11/64 and it still seals with the stock seal
the hole in the seal should be unobstructed and stilll seal
Quote from: 1377x on February 26, 2013, 08:02:59 PM
i take it you dont get any leakage with that set up...do you think that set up will handle high power better than the standard bolt/o-ring seal?
Have not detected any leakage with this setup. Would be safe to assume that once the o-ring wears, leakage is going to be likely, but replacing an o-ring is a pretty easy thing IMO.
Having the o-ring at or in the barrel seems to be somewhat common with pcp rifles. In particular those with magazines. IMO, the setup handles higher power levels very well. O-ring on the bolt would handle high power levels too. Lots of folks around with hot rod .22 Discos...maybe you know someone? ;)
"Better" is subjective in this case IMO.
Al
Ed, you is the man! Took it all back apart again and did what you said. I drilled it out 11/64 used a small primer pocket reamer and a RCBS deburing tool. Now it lines up. Thank you again. QUACK,QUACK,QUACK!
Quote from: BDS on February 26, 2013, 06:01:49 PM
DaveB50: Did you just drill out the 1377 plastic barrel band to 7/16" diameter? Slip fit? Slight press fit or...?
I used a dremel tool to open it up, stopping often to check until it had a slight press fit. I plan on getting a different front sight or muzzle brake, then grinding the current sight down, leaving the band.
Did the usual to my PC77. Polished the sear and aligned it with the trigger using a washer. Found some springs in a box of miscellaneous springs I picked up at the local DIY store (HD or Lowes) years ago. These are tapered but long, so I cut it down on the fat end. I had noticed the loops of the spring were rubbing on the guides (frame and cover) so I put a notch using a wheel on the Dremel on the sear to keep the spring aligned. Now the spring is more in-line with the movement so it doesn't bend outward as much, so I'm not bothering with any other sort of guide or support. A little trial and error used: shortened the first spring until the action wouldn't cock and cut the next spring just longer. Did the usual bump/smack tests several times with on/off safe and cocked; passed. I don't have a proper trigger pull gauge but a spring gauge shows somewhere betweenish 2 and 3 lbs. The trigger shoe is for a paintball gun of some sorts but I had to file the inside edges to get a tight fit onto the trigger (I have the black trigger version) without the set screws, but I put them in anyway. Re-crowned using a marble, sandpaper and toothpaste to take out an annoying hump in the crown as it came from the factory. Got most of the help here from you guys. THANKS!
The crown looks nice twiggy.
Quote from: mudduck48 on February 26, 2013, 10:34:02 PM
Ed, you is the man! Took it all back apart again and did what you said. I drilled it out 11/64 used a small primer pocket reamer and a RCBS deburing tool. Now it lines up. Thank you again. QUACK,QUACK,QUACK!
glad it worked out for you!
guess its a little late now but if you have the valve out again you can soften the angle of the exhaust port too.it will help with the flow of air.
circled in red
oh! do the valve stem taper too.my gun lost over 20 fps with 10 pumps, i am assuming because i took out the light valve spring and my brass tapered valve stem went kaput.when i need to take my valve out i am going to taper the new plastic valve stem.i no longer like a valve spring that makes cocking the gun to pump a must,so the near stock spring stays
I swapped the trigger/grip frame, stock, breech, and barrel from my modified 1322 onto a backpacker tube, and while I was at it I flat-topped the valve and installed a Mellon FT piston and C-clipped solid pin. I also did some porting and smoothing of the exhaust port and added the little O-ring from a butane lighter to the transfer port. I topped it with a Hawke 2-7x32 AO Scope.
With the leftover parts, I setup the 1322 with a 12" barrel and added a steel breech and the Crosman red dot, with a fiber optic front sight and MIM rear sight as backup.
I started with this:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/1322%20with%20Red%20Dot/1322C.jpg)
and ended up with these:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Nice%20Pair/132289pair.jpg)
ysyeo
that code in your sig
what is it
something about
Quote from: 1377x on February 27, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
ysyeo
that code in your sig
what is it
something about
Try googling "binary to text" (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
YSYEO where ya been man?
ED, that's "binary" code in that sig pic, 1's and 0s are computer language, strings of them make the lil black boxes do things.
Always the 1938 Red Ryder comic eh YSYEO?
010000100110010100100000011100110111010101110010011001010010000
001110100011011110010000001100100011100100110100101101110011010
110010000001111001011011110111010101110010001000000100111101110
11001100001011011000111010001101001011011100110010100101110
equals
"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine."
Quote from: BDS on February 27, 2013, 09:46:21 PM
YSYEO where ya been man?
A shooting buddy got me into .22 rimfire, so I've been taking a little side trip getting into my first firearms (if you don't count my Crosman 600s, which in Michigan are already classified as firearms ??? ).
I've been playing with a Henry H001 and a Ruger 10/22.
Nice... Henry's are great and the 10/22s are the "2240" of the .22 LR world... is there any type of accessory or mod part that they have not made that can be bolted onto or modified into the 10/22 guns?
Heck, I've even seen bottle opener/ piccatiny rails for the forearms :D
Quote from: BDS on February 27, 2013, 10:01:29 PM
Nice... Henry's are great and the 10/22s are the "2240" of the .22 LR world... is there any type of accessory or mod part that they have not made that can be bolted onto or modified into the 10/22 guns?
Heck, I've even seen bottle opener/ piccatiny rails for the forearms :D
You can build one completely with non-Ruger parts!
Yup, sky is the limit with a 10/22, you see e'm at ranges from $150 "beater" to $5000 laminate stock, bull barrel, muzzle brake with GPS/Scope and bipods etc etc etc, those guys are almost as crazy as Crosmaniacs and thier $59 2240s converted into $500 pistols :D ;D
just got 3 accessories for my 10-22 today.i dont think ill change the stock unless a really cool bullpup stock comes around.there are some cool aluminum ones around but if you thonk the wait is long on a sc stock or some other glorious stock maker is long then you see the list for the aluminum bullpup i am talking about
Quote from: YSYEO on February 27, 2013, 09:45:49 PM
Try googling "binary to text" (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
So you remember drinking Ovaltine? Man that was a long time ago and not that many folks actually remember Ovaltine. Do you remember the TV shaw that used Ovaltine as a sponsor and allowed you to get secret decoder rings.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on February 28, 2013, 02:06:57 PM
So you remember drinking Ovaltine? Man that was a long time ago and not that many folks actually remember Ovaltine. Do you remember the TV shaw that used Ovaltine as a sponsor and allowed you to get secret decoder rings.
Carl
Ralphie's take on Ovaltine.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdA__2tKoIU#]Be sure to drink your Ovaltine[/url]
^^^ Awesome!!! ;D ;D ;D
Carl
I just finished cleaning up and resealing a 150 1st variant for a friend. It had some rust on the barrel and tube, which cleaned up nicely with 0000 steel wool and oil. The CO2 cap was worn to bare metal, so that got re-blued. The rebuild kit came from Precision Pellet, along with kits for my newest 38T, a 2100, 622, and 766. That should keep me busy for a while (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/thumbsUp1eye.gif)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Cr%20150%20Phase%202/Cr150-1stVariant.jpg)
heres a pic of the crown i just worked on polishing still have a little more work to do
Quote from: 1377x on February 28, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
heres a pic of the crown i just worked on polishing still have a little more work to do
That looks pretty good....what are you using to polish the crown?
nice work ed
ped
Nice crown work ED, very nice :-*
Barrel bands don't have to be boring, a slab of pot metal just hanging on the front of your pistol...
"Mako Shark"
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Machine%20Werks/makoband1_zps29f32530.jpg)
Now to flip it around and do the other side :D
Finialy got my 1322 back together. New, steel breech, ss extended bolt, blue fork barrel band, brass valve and piston out of a phaze 2 1377, grip frame from same 1377, washer inbetween halves of pump body to take up the slop, cut down another ss 4-48 breech screw, cut off rear breech screw and LPA MIM rear sight.
Looking good duck! I tried to get one of those black bands at HPA last night but they were out of stock :(
I goofed up the other night and bought the one with the fiber front sight on ebay. Pd too much, but I got greg's email address from Paypal. Greg, the guy that makes these parts. If you want it PM me.
Duck... Greg is "BlueFork Designs" he makes the parts but does not sell them any longer, he uses Joe at HPA to sell all his stuff.
Quote from: BDS on February 28, 2013, 08:23:15 PM
Duck... Greg is "BlueFork Designs" he makes the parts but does not sell them any longer, he uses Joe at HPA to sell all his stuff.
i think he sells a few on ebay every now and then its a different seller than hpa's name.i figured it was bfd just by the location of the seller
Quote from: WyoMan on February 28, 2013, 04:30:04 PM
That looks pretty good....what are you using to polish the crown?
thanks guys!
started with 1200 grit sandpaper for such a high number it still cuts into the metal pretty good.i thought all the chatter maks were gone so i went to 1500 grit it has a cloth backing i assume that it is emory,emery ??? then followed by 2000 grit for the extra shine
the sand paper was wrapped around a brass screw
i dont know if i'll go back in and clean up the rest of the chatter marks, still have the leade-in to work on. i need to work on the port,too, its opened up for 1/4" poly water line i might have to go get some micro sprinkler irrigation line since it has the id of .161 the water line has an id of .170 and thats to big for my application
nice work on the barrel band,chong!
good job on the 150,ysyeo!
it does look like you have a full plate ;)
Quote from: BDS on February 28, 2013, 08:23:15 PM
Duck... Greg is "BlueFork Designs" he makes the parts but does not sell them any longer, he uses Joe at HPA to sell all his stuff.
This is true, but I just bought the black front barrel band with the sight on ebay. Paypal sent me a notice that I had pd Greg the money. He had 3 and sold them all. I goofed, I could have bought the same thing for $7.50 cheaper from HPA. O-well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crosman-1377-barrell-band-aluminium-/160981625208? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crosman-1377-barrell-band-aluminium-/160981625208?)
Quote from: mudduck48 on February 28, 2013, 08:56:04 PM
This is true, but I just bought the black front barrel band with the sight on ebay. Paypal sent me a notice that I had pd Greg the money. He had 3 and sold them all. I goofed, I could have bought the same thing for $7.50 cheaper from HPA. O-well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crosman-1377-barrell-band-aluminium-/160981625208? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crosman-1377-barrell-band-aluminium-/160981625208?)
your 1377 is looking good!
what does a phase 2 piston look like ?
i have a phase 2 1377 and the stock piston is plastic like the rest of them.
the $7.50 is basically ebay tax
i would have done the same thing and got it where it was available
bfd sold his pump arm there before hpa had it,thats when i know bfd sells on ebay
The top piston is out on my new 1322, the bottom is out of the 1377 phaze 2 I bought for parts.
Quote from: mudduck48 on February 28, 2013, 09:13:32 PM
The top piston is out on my new 1322, the bottom is out of the 1377 phaze 2 I bought for parts.
forgot the phase 2 piston has a spot for an oil wiper!! :-*
i think you can get one that woeks at lowes
search oil wiper from the index page it will pop up or you can buy a roll of felt pretty cheap
or just cut a sponge "o-ring" to fit on there (black industrial foam)
Quote from: 1377x on February 28, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
forgot the phase 2 piston has a spot for an oil wiper!! :-*
i think you can get one that woeks at lowes
search oil wiper from the index page it will pop up or you can buy a roll of felt pretty cheap
Thanks for the tip. I thought that I would us the 1377 piston in my 1322 because it looked stronger to me.
decided to see what a steel breech would like on my 2250 with a cocoran stock (been leaving this build till my tko triggers come and i get a gmac brass breech)big mistake managed to strip the head of the 4-48 using a .050 ball driver instead of my trusty allen key
infact its been one of those days got a phone call that somebody was helping their selfs to some of my logs ,lost a bar nut of one of the chainsaws, didn't put the oil cap on properly and got oil down my chain pants and then the chainbrake spring came off(all on the same saw)
so thats it i'm having a few beers and leaving the breech screw for another day
ped
Quote from: chongman on February 28, 2013, 06:30:31 PM
Nice crown work ED, very nice :-*
Barrel bands don't have to be boring, a slab of pot metal just hanging on the front of your pistol...
"Mako Shark"
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Machine%20Werks/makoband1_zps29f32530.jpg)
Now to flip it around and do the other side :D
I really like that. So does this mean you are moving on to barrel bands now? ;) :)
Quote from: mudduck48 on February 28, 2013, 06:54:30 PM
Finialy got my 1322 back together. New, steel breech, ss extended bolt, blue fork barrel band, brass valve and piston out of a phaze 2 1377, grip frame from same 1377, washer inbetween halves of pump body to take up the slop, cut down another ss 4-48 breech screw, cut off rear breech screw and LPA MIM rear sight.
NICE combination!! Let us know how it shoots.
Quote from: Brent on March 01, 2013, 12:56:42 AM
I really like that. So does this mean you are moving on to barrel bands now? ;) :)
No sir, just a little hand tool practice for a couple of days ;)
Quote from: Brent on March 01, 2013, 12:58:44 AM
NICE combination!! Let us know how it shoots.
It shoots great. but the LPA MIM sight is not right for the 14.5" barrel. It passed the tissue test. all of the air is going out the barrel. just need a different sight.
Quotemanaged to strip the head of the 4-48 using a .050 ball driver instead of my trusty allen key
Always use the short end to tighten and loosen things. Use the ball end only to spin the screw in or out.
Cheers,
Quote from: mudduck48 on February 28, 2013, 06:54:30 PM
Finialy got my 1322 back together. New, steel breech, ss extended bolt, blue fork barrel band, brass valve and piston out of a phaze 2 1377, grip frame from same 1377, washer inbetween halves of pump body to take up the slop, cut down another ss 4-48 breech screw, cut off rear breech screw and LPA MIM rear sight.
Hi Mr. Mud..Is the lower portion of the BF band's anodized finish now starting to get scuffed from the constant pump lever to band contact?...Or does it ever make contact? Kindly clarify. Thanks and best regards.
Quote from: crossliner on March 01, 2013, 03:32:46 AM
Hi Mr. Mud..Is the lower portion of the BF band's anodized finish now starting to get scuffed from the constant pump lever to band contact?...Or does it ever make contact? Kindly clarify. Thanks and best regards.
Don't know. I have only shot this new build about 5 times. My rear sight is fubar. I'll look tomarrow to see, but like I said, I have only shot it about 5 times.
Yes sir and thanks.
Quote from: JEBert on March 01, 2013, 03:03:55 AM
Always use the short end to tighten and loosen things. Use the ball end only to spin the screw in or out.
Cheers,
was being lazy my normal set of allen keys were upstairs instead of getting them i used the ball end set that was on the table next to me ,won't be using them again it the small sizes
ped
Quote from: ped on March 01, 2013, 09:13:43 AM
was being lazy my normal set of allen keys were upstairs instead of getting them i used the ball end set that was on the table next to me ,won't be using them again it the small sizes
ped
I don't like the ball end hex tools. I've twisted off a few ends. Ground what's left of the ball shank off and still use the key. My smallest key is actually a Parma slot car wheel/spur gear tool. Large aluminum hex handle with the hex machined from round tool steel stock. Very tough.
Put a TKO break and a chongman bolt on my 2240.
(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/targettgii/Airgunpics019_zps8f4ed528.jpg)
(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/targettgii/Airgunpics020_zps964aefba.jpg)
Looks Nice! :)
Thanks Brent crappy cellphone pics going to post more from my camera soon.
looking good targettgii!
i received my tko 1911 trigger installed it then immediately removed it. sanded off the brushed finish,it felt real gritty when pulling the trigger.polished the contact points to a mirror finish and put the tko spring kit in with the 1911 trigger
now its a real smooth light,short trigger pull.its extremely light had to do the bump test.i didnt have to lube it after the polishing its so smooth
still waiting for my 1911 triggers looks like the first ones have got lost e mailed mike and he's resending some top guy
ped
Been working on the secret project gun again ;)
Ped, once i get the hex breech screw out I bin them every time.
Slot head screws will be out to you Monday mate.
I have been breaking in my new fossil blaster on a soon to be special Crosman grip frame for a forum brother.
Quote from: Davio on March 02, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
I have been breaking in my new fossil blaster on a soon to be special Crosman grip for a forum brother.
Tell me something about your
fossil blaster. Looks interesting and something I might NEED. :D
Carl
Quote from: Davio on March 02, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
I have been breaking in my new fossil blaster on a soon to be special Crosman grip for a forum brother.
what does it do sounds like it uses media other than sand and bead
Dang, you guys are GOOD !
It uses less pressure (20 psi to 60 psi range) and requires as little as a 1/2 hp compressor. It uses any media in the 40 to 100 micron range (120 grit or smaller size / larger number, though... approx. 120 to 220 mesh size). It has dual media pots with hoses and tips inside the chamber and can be swapped back and forth on the fly with the pull or push of a knob (although I am re-using my media and do not want them mixed).
It is a kinder and gentler blaster... thousand points of light and all that. ;)
I am liking what it is doing thus far.
You are my idol David :-\
Quote from: chongman on March 02, 2013, 04:19:52 PM
You are my idol David :-\
Ditto. ;) Oops,wrong thread. That was from the movie Ghost. ;D
I just laid out the road map for a supremely custom gun that will be named Maximus Prime. Gimme a week and we'll do pics. No less than twenty (20) upgrades will be incorporated.
i didnt realize there was 20 parts to these guns ;)
cant wait to see it
Quote from: Davio on March 02, 2013, 04:02:36 PM
Dang, you guys are GOOD !
It uses less pressure (20 psi to 60 psi range) and requires as little as a 1/2 hp compressor. It uses any media in the 40 to 100 micron range (120 grit or smaller size / larger number, though... approx. 120 to 220 mesh size). It has dual media pots with hoses and tips inside the chamber and can be swapped back and forth on the fly with the pull or push of a knob (although I am re-using my media and do not want them mixed).
It is a kinder and gentler blaster... thousand points of light and all that. ;)
I am liking what it is doing thus far.
Okay, since you didn't really answer this, what model is it and where did you get it?
Carl
Sorry, Carl. You said tell me something about and I told you allot about. Here you go, buddy. :)
http://micronblaster.com/Micronblaster/About.html (http://micronblaster.com/Micronblaster/About.html)
Quote from: Davio on March 02, 2013, 04:56:32 PM
Sorry, Carl. You said tell me something about and I told you allot about. Here you go, buddy. :)
http://micronblaster.com/Micronblaster/About.html (http://micronblaster.com/Micronblaster/About.html)
Yes you did but being sometimes anal, I wanted more...
Thanks very much. I just ordered one and have lots of plans to make good use of it.
Carl
Quote from: 1377x on March 02, 2013, 04:48:42 PM
i didnt realize there was 20 parts to these guns ;)
cant wait to see it
20 upgrades is conservative. ;)
Ed, I gotta do something! Chongman been kicking my butt while I had my head down. I gotta raise the stakes. :)
Quote from: Davio on March 02, 2013, 05:01:14 PM
20 upgrades is conservative. ;)
Ed, I gotta do something! Chongman been kicking my butt while I had my head down. I gotta raise the stakes. :)
;D ;D ;D In this case, snooze you bruise!
Quote from: chongman on March 02, 2013, 05:18:40 PM
;D ;D ;D In this case, snooze you bruise!
Yeah, but kicking my jewels until YOUR feet hurt??? ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: droid on March 02, 2013, 10:52:33 AM
Been working on the secret project gun again ;)
Ped, once i get the hex breech screw out I bin them every time.
Slot head screws will be out to you Monday mate.
cheers gary this is the first time i've had a problem with breech screws (well apart from a s/h tube that somebody had retapped m4)
how long before we see the S-P-G?
that looks a nice set up davio i was a shot blaster for 6yrs at a commercial paint shop its one job i wouldn't want to do again our set up was for blasting hgv trailers prior to painting
ped
QuoteSorry, Carl. You said tell me something about and I told you allot about.
Bottom line of what Carl said was "I want one." :)
Quotei was a shot blaster for 6yrs at a commercial paint shop its one job i wouldn't want to do again our set up was for blasting hgv trailers prior to painting
And you used SHOT for that? What kind of trailers was that?
I worked on heavy tank trailers for 12 years and the guys that blasted them used sand, outside!
That was one job I didn't want. I usually worked inside the tanks, welding. That is probably part of what's wrong with me, mentally and physically.
Cheers,
Quote from: Davio on March 02, 2013, 04:56:32 PM
Sorry, Carl. You said tell me something about and I told you allot about. Here you go, buddy. :)
http://micronblaster.com/Micronblaster/About.html (http://micronblaster.com/Micronblaster/About.html)
Thats a nice little blaster.I wish I afford one but I can't so I will just have to keep using my HF cheapey,It works--sorta.
Quote from: JEBert on March 02, 2013, 07:01:47 PM
Bottom line of what Carl said was "I want one." :)
And you used SHOT for that? What kind of trailers was that?
I worked on heavy tank trailers for 12 years and the guys that blasted them used sand, outside!
That was one job I didn't want. I usually worked inside the tanks, welding. That is probably part of what's wrong with me, mentally and physically.
Cheers,
in the uk shot blasting is a general term for all types of media blasting we used to use a blast media called stone grit(slightly coarser than sand)
previous to being a "shotblaster" i spent 9yrs as a welder my last job was building trailers/tankers
ped
Just put a 18" barrel on my 2289. I really think the gun looks better with that barrel. The barrel band doesn't seem to like it. Letting the barrel move when I am cocking it. I think it is moving it enough that one shot shoots like it should the next shot is very weak. I think the barrel is moving enough to move the transfer port enough to let air get by. Put TKO trigger kit in it also.
Quote from: ped on March 02, 2013, 06:55:01 PM
cheers gary this is the first time i've had a problem with breech screws (well apart from a s/h tube that somebody had retapped m4)
how long before we see the S-P-G?
that looks a nice set up davio i was a shot blaster for 6yrs at a commercial paint shop its one job i wouldn't want to do again our set up was for blasting hgv trailers prior to painting
ped
Ah well the SPG is just waiting a few parts, mostly one off custom made jobbies. I have them all sorted bar one part, jeez this hobby is expensive ;)
Steady working on Project Alice" 8)
Quote from: mackelby on March 02, 2013, 09:47:07 PM
Just put a 18" barrel on my 2289. I really think the gun looks better with that barrel. The barrel band doesn't seem to like it. Letting the barrel move when I am cocking it. I think it is moving it enough that one shot shoots like it should the next shot is very weak. I think the barrel is moving enough to move the transfer port enough to let air get by. Put TKO trigger kit in it also.
If you want a tighter fitting barrel band...
paint the inside of the barrel band with a thick coat of epoxy
after cure then hone the epoxy with sandpaper rolled up into a tube (400 grit)
check fit often and then lube barrel with some light weight oil like Hoppe's
install should be tight smooth lubricated .....hth
Now THAT is a good idea!! ^^^^ :-*
Great idea Wyo, might give that a try on my 78g. It seems to have a lot of play in the front frame where the barrel passes through and I am thinking it is hurting the accuracy. :-*. Sorry for the hijack.
Mackelby,
It is just a thought but do you have a steel breech on that gun or is that transfer port trying to hold that barrel still all by itself?
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on March 03, 2013, 05:40:28 AM
Mackelby,
It is just a thought but do you have a steel breech on that gun or is that transfer port trying to hold that barrel still all by itself?
Cheers,
I think that right now he is still using the OEM plastic breech but I could be wrong.
Carl
just made a stainless hammer to suit a prod trigger and a ptfe spring guide
might have to put a couple of flats on the side to reduce its weight or bore the back out and fit a piece of ptfe,i've threaded the hammer pin hole m3 (grub screw fitted at the moment but will make a shouldered pin)
ped
^^^ I like that approach. Good job. :-* :-* :-*
Carl
nice job!
Great hammer, ped. Show us the final product after you finish your testing.
cheers chaps i'm not sure where i'm going with this i got a spur of the moment idea as i found a piece of 3/4" stainless bar in the yard when i cleared an area of brush and rubble
without any accurate scales (i just used the kitchen ones) i reckon the solid hammer is about 8grams heavier i'm thinking of using it for a bullpup with a qb78 trigger unit but i'm still at the thinking stage
ped
Quote from: ped on March 05, 2013, 01:10:56 AM
cheers chaps i'm not sure where i'm going with this i got a spur of the moment idea as i found a piece of 3/4" stainless bar in the yard when i cleared an area of brush and rubble
without any accurate scales (i just used the kitchen ones) i reckon the solid hammer is about 8grams heavier i'm thinking of using it for a bullpup with a qb78 trigger unit but i'm still at the thinking stage
ped
you might as well make a rear cocker too ;) ;D
Nice work Ped. :-*
Quotemight have to put a couple of flats on the side to reduce its weight or bore the back out and fit a piece of ptfe
I like the idea of flats on the sides. It will let plenty of air past the striker instead of forcing it out the hole in the bottom of the tube.
Great job!
Fine looking striker :-*
Quote from: JEBert on March 05, 2013, 03:14:50 AM
I like the idea of flats on the sides. It will let plenty of air past the striker instead of forcing it out the hole in the bottom of the tube.
Great job!
+1 Good call mr Bert :-* and great work on the striker ped :-*
Does a heavier hammer mean you need a stronger spring to get it moving?
Quote from: JEBert on March 05, 2013, 03:14:50 AM
I like the idea of flats on the sides. It will let plenty of air past the striker instead of forcing it out the hole in the bottom of the tube.
Great job!
2x to that
the faster the air pushed out the harder the hammer will hit
i've modded the hammer a bit more i've made it so it can be a rear cocker as well
didn't get chance to mill any flats on the side and i'm thinking of making the cocking pin out of m4 instead of m3
i'm thinking of making a hammer out of either ally or ptfe/delrin then using the rear cocker idea and try to get the weight to a standard hammer weight or lighter as shot count will be reduced and i cant take the power to the max due to our limit
the hammer weighs in at just over 100g but by changing the brass end can be increased or decreased
i'm wondering if changing the length of the rod and fitting a buffer between the end cap and the rear weight/cocker would act as a limited hdd
ped
Quote from: outofthefire on March 06, 2013, 10:44:51 PM
Does a heavier hammer mean you need a stronger spring to get it moving?
i am using a 94 gram hammer myself,a .041 music wire hammer spring moves it just pretty good
It would be interesting to get some chrony numbers with the hammer in this configuration and then mill some flats on it and run the tests again.
I suspect that if the hammer is not a really tight fit the flats on each will probably not make much difference. But it would be an interesting test.
Carl
i'll try and do some tests at weekend i'll have to rob a couple of bits back of my gauntlet build though
i'll try and get a comparison on standard hammer ,solid hammer ,solid hammer with the rear cocker and again with flats on the hammer will also try with a heavy hammer spring
when i made the hammer i made it 18.8mm instead of 18.7mm but its still a fairly slack fit
ped
Cool engineering ped :-* :-*
Quote from: ped on March 07, 2013, 12:34:29 AM
i'll try and do some tests at weekend i'll have to rob a couple of bits back of my gauntlet build though
i'll try and get a comparison on standard hammer ,solid hammer ,solid hammer with the rear cocker and again with flats on the hammer will also try with a heavy hammer spring
when i made the hammer i made it 18.8mm instead of 18.7mm but its still a fairly slack fit
ped
Looking forward to that :)
I opened up one of my 2240 tubes so I can attach a thermocouple to the valve tip and the neck of the CO2 cartridge so I can do some temperature measurements. This all in the name of investigative science and curiosity.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on March 07, 2013, 04:04:56 AM
I opened up one of my 2240 tubes so I can attach a thermocouple to the valve tip and the neck of the CO2 cartridge so I can do some temperature measurements. This all in the name of investigative science and curiosity.
Carl
That looks kinda cool 8)
Nice cut out :-*
Quote from: quickster47 on March 07, 2013, 04:04:56 AM
I opened up one of my 2240 tubes so I can attach a thermocouple to the valve tip and the neck of the CO2 cartridge so I can do some temperature measurements. This all in the name of investigative science and curiosity.
Carl
WOW :o ..... thats really taking one for the team :-* will be good info and TIA :)
nice cant wait to see your results
Quote from: quickster47 on March 07, 2013, 04:04:56 AM
I opened up one of my 2240 tubes so I can attach a thermocouple to the valve tip and the neck of the CO2 cartridge so I can do some temperature measurements. This all in the name of investigative science and curiosity.
Carl
Did you use a Dremel or did you clamp it in a mill vise to get those cuts? ;)
took some pics w/measurement of the hammers springs i use in my air guns.each one has a purpose and does a little more than the other the heaviest one will knock open a 3400psi fill like no tomorrow when used with the 115 gram hammer
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/rex021_zps065b309b.jpg)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/asasasasasas004_zpsad589fb9.jpg)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/rex033_zps82c7b0fb.jpg)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/rex010_zps4b400563.jpg)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/rex024_zpsbbdb66b6.jpg)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/rex041_zps2f4aa909.jpg)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/rex045_zps20464f15.jpg)
Quote from: Davio on March 07, 2013, 05:55:21 AM
Did you use a Dremel or did you clamp it in a mill vise to get those cuts? ;)
I clamped it in my mill vise and then cut through both tubes from one side and then cut an extra 0.10" on each end. It came out okay but I may go back and open up the hole to 0.5" for a little more working room.
Carl
Good collection of hammer springs Ed.
Carl
I just modded my Crosman M4177 trigger. You have to take out 17 screws just to get to it! While I did find a useful youtube video on how to dismantle the assembly, thus far I haven't seen any information on how to lighten the trigger pull. Fortunately I have a working knowledge of airgun trigger mods so I was able to figure out a way to lighten up the trigger pull by bending a tine on the trigger spring. It's so much better now.
Hey Agninja:
Here's a video I did a while back on the M417 trigger. Hope it helps.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slw-bQVaHMc#]M417 Trigger Tune.wmv[/url]
Nothing fancy...Added a UTG bipod.
Quote from: AS13 on March 07, 2013, 03:50:38 PM
Hey Agninja:
Here's a video I did a while back on the M417 trigger. Hope it helps.
Dang it! I knew there was a video on it but I couldn't find it because you have it tagged as M417 instead of M4177. (I realize that Crosman later changed the name of the gun). I'm glad I posted about this. Thanks for the video!
Quote from: AS13 on March 07, 2013, 04:01:07 PM
Nothing fancy...Added a UTG bipod.
I like this :-*
AS13 that is a great video. Thanks for making it and thanks for posting it here.
Carl
You need to go back and put a flat top piston and valve in it, Man it sure makes a big differnce!
machined an aluminium hammer so i could continue my testing of hammers springs and additional weights in the form of a rear cocker/cock indicator and did a bit more testing also altered a brass tube cap to take the rear cocker
ped
Nice work. Really like the looks of the aluminum hammer. Any thoughts on the performance of it compared to the stainless one and a stocker?
Carl
hi carl i've just posted the result of my testing in the co2/hpa section
ped
I have just finished completely refinishing one of Archer's Industry Brand sights. It was brand new but very corroded and nasty finish. It is now a nice combination of polish and powder coat.
I now have a very fine bead (.067") on a muzzle brake. Hard shot to take and can't show too much of the Gauntlet project gun, but the fuzzy clearing in the photo is the notch opening of the rear sight. Much better looking at arm's length with eyeballs instead of several inches away with a camera, but hopefully you get the idea.
I also made and polished the very first completed set of ambidextrous black solid resin grips that will have their coming out party tomorrow evening ;)
Quote from: ped on March 08, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
machined an aluminium hammer so i could continue my testing of hammers springs and additional weights in the form of a rear cocker/cock indicator and did a bit more testing also altered a brass tube cap to take the rear cocker
ped
This is impressive ped :-*
Quote from: Davio on March 09, 2013, 03:28:09 AM
I have just finished completely refinishing one of Archer's Industry Brand sights. It was brand new but very corroded and nasty finish. It is now a nice combination of polish and powder coat.
That sight looks excellent. Archer should get them to clean it up before shipping to the US.
Quote from: Davio on March 09, 2013, 03:28:09 AM
I have just finished completely refinishing one of Archer's Industry Brand sights. It was brand new but very corroded and nasty finish. It is now a nice combination of polish and powder coat.
Great job on the sight. Fact is, they should all come from the factory in that condition.
Carl
Quote from: Davio on March 09, 2013, 03:28:09 AM
I have just finished completely refinishing one of Archer's Industry Brand sights. It was brand new but very corroded and nasty finish. It is now a nice combination of polish and powder coat.
Looks good Davio, it's like the opposite of mine. I didn't like the silver screw that Archer included so I cut a bit off the original black screw and used that one, looks better I think.
Hate cold blue with a burning passion? Try rust blueing...time consuming...but easy to do. Finish cannot be rubbed off with 0000 steel wool.
AND...the finished piece doesn't stink. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3833_zps414ffeda.jpg)
Al
Quote from: Gippeto on March 09, 2013, 07:07:46 AM
Hate cold blue with a burning passion? Try rust blueing...time consuming...but easy to do. Finish cannot be rubbed off with 0000 steel wool.
AND...the finished piece doesn't stink. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3833_zps414ffeda.jpg)
Al
is there a place/website you perferred to get instruction of the process?
looks good
Quote from: Gippeto on March 09, 2013, 07:07:46 AM
Hate cold blue with a burning passion? Try rust blueing...time consuming...but easy to do. Finish cannot be rubbed off with 0000 steel wool.
AND...the finished piece doesn't stink. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3833_zps414ffeda.jpg)
Al
Great job on that and as Ed stated, we could all benefit from a link describing the process and chemicals needed.
Carl
I thought you got a brown colour from rusting, what do you do to get the blue colour?
There are commercial solutions..Laurel Mountain Barrel browning reagent and degreaser (long name huh?) seems to be the most user friendly while producing excellent results.
I did order some, but I'm not the most patient guy...shipping from the US takes ~ 2wks , so I made my own from household stuff.
Solution is equal parts 3% hydrogen peroxide (the stuff you put on cuts) and white vinegar. Pour sea salt into this and stir/add until some crystals remain...saturated solution at room temperature.
Steel MUST be free of oil and grease...acetone seems to be popular, I washed the parts in varsol, wiped with isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) and then a quick wipe with a small rag wet down with muriatic acid (~30% HCL...READ the instructions on the bottle...WEAR GLOVES!!! and do it OUTSIDE!)
Attach a piece of degreased steel wire to the part to aid in hanging and handling.
Sand parts along the length to no finer than 320grit.
Wearing clean gloves, apply the solution with a cotton swab...only just wet the surface...you don't want the solution to run or drip. Even strokes the length of the part. Some folks build a browning box, others hang the pieces in the bathroom...you need ~50% humidity for the rust to form in a decent amount of time. I use 1.5-2hrs for a rusting time.
Start low...too high of a humidity will have water droplets form on the piece...this WILL result in pitting.
When the piece is covered in rust (takes faith...been there. ;)) Transfer it to a CLEAN container and add boiling distilled water. Watch in amazement as the red rust turns black. 8) Let it sit for 5 minutes or so until the rust stops converting. Use the piece of wire to remove the part from the water and blow it dry.
Once dry, let it sit for a minute to cool. The next step is to card off the loose magnetite(that's what it is now) using degreased 0000 steel wool.
Repeat the rusting/boiling/carding cycles until either the part is coloured where you want it, or it won't take any more color.
Heat the part in distilled water one last time. Remove and spray down with WD40 to displace the water. Once cool, oil with gun oil and let it "set" for a couple days.
Done. :)
Asides and cautions:
It was suggested to me that I might do all the rustings before boiling...have not tried it this way.
Will be doing a barrel that I care something about soon, the bore will be oiled and plugged before the degrease stage...and will remain so until finished.
Would suggest anyone wanting to have a go at this DO so...it's pretty easy IMO, with excellent results. :) BUT...start with something you don't really care about.
Some time spent googling rust bluing wouldn not be a bad thing.
Probably best if you use short rusting cycles and lowish humidity until you get a "feel" for the process.
HTH
Al
A couple links...google will have MANY more. ;)
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=376334 (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=376334)
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31594 (http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31594)
great write up on the process Al.........Earl :-* :-*
thanks taking the time explaining the rust bluing process you use
that hcl acid stuff opened my eyes real big :o
Quote from: 1377x on March 09, 2013, 07:15:52 PM
thanks taking the time explaining the rust bluing process you use
that hcl acid stuff opened my eyes real big :o
might open your sinuses too :D
Quote from: WyoMan on March 09, 2013, 09:44:15 PM
might open your sinuses too :D
lmao! prbably should shut the eyes huh? ;D ;D
Gippeto thanks for the information in your great write up. Still think I'm going to give it a try. Don't have much to lose.
Carl
Thanks for the write up!
I've developed this habit over the years of picking up random stuff I find while walking around outdoors. Generally I'll collect small rubber or metal pieces, which I feel will have some use later on down the road (even if I'm not sure what it will be used for). Recently I'd found three rubber pieces on three separate occasions. I really wanted to use them for something but didn't know what. Then after having spent a day at the range shooting my Crosmans, I noticed my cocking finger was mighty sore. Then I realized the bolt knobs that come with the plastic and steel breech are not very ergonomic. I was wondering what I could use to fix that, since I like doing my own mods myself and for as cheap as possible, and then I remembered the rubber bits I'd found just days prior!
Interesting enough, all three of them fit, though the two I used needed to be trimmed and shaped. I was really pleased with the one I put on my 2289, because it fit really snug and actually looks good, on top of making it very comfortable when cocking the bolt. It was apparently a cap of some sort, which lent itself well to being used for essentially that same purpose. The other soft rubber piece I put on my 2240 had to be hollowed out, and it swivels a bit when handling it, but it still stays firmly secured to the bolt and allows for easier and more comfortable cocking. Looks a bit odd, but that's an odd looking pistol anyway. The cost of both mods you might be wondering......$0.00 8)
Very ingenious, now you need to camo paint them.
Super innovative and great job of re-purposing discarded parts.
Carl
Quote from: DaveB50 on March 11, 2013, 02:13:24 AM
Very ingenious, now you need to camo paint them.
Thanks. Thought about trying to paint them, but rubber sometimes doesn't take the paint very well, particularly on parts that will be constantly handled and worn.
nice one agninja i'm the same i find allsort that i haven't a clue what i'll use it for ,it's even better if its shiney
ped
Someone mentioned the other day in some post about the web of skin between the thumb and index finger being sore and irritated after a lengthy shooting session. I too have that problem and have had it for awhile, and it is especially noticeable when you spend a couple of hours shooting targets.
I actually made this mod several months back but decided to post it after reading about the OPs problem.
What I have done is to smooth out the back of the trigger frame so that gripping the frame tight does not irritate that part of my hand where it comes into contact with the back edge of the trigger frame. It is amazing what a little bit of time spent with a Dremel and a 1/2" sanding disc can accomplish.
In the photos below you can see that I have not yet painted this trigger frame so you can see the work I've done.
Carl
And here is one more picture showing the modified trigger frame and an OEM trigger frame that happens to be on my box stock 2240.
Carl
Nicely done Carl... now, the next trick is to find a button/socket head screw and polish the hex edges so they don't rub on the web of your hand..ouch!
One mod begets another eh what!? :D ;D
Guess I can stop putting felt dots on that part of the frame now. Good solution, quickster47.
Nice mod Carl, cool idea.
Took the custom grips I made off the H9a and put the factory grips back on. While Im not fond of the ergonomics of the factory wood, its better than the ergos of the one sI made, and they look better than my hack job. Working on Grips 2.0 for that gun.....
Nice job Carl :-*
I expect to an outsider we must all come across a tad OCD ;D
I just finished a bit of barbering on the "Brazilian" build. ;)
I think I will stay away from "colors" this time... tail between my legs and all from the awesome Gauntlet I competition. :-*
Pics will happen soon.
Quote from: Davio on March 14, 2013, 09:31:27 AM
I just finished a bit of barbering on the "Brazilian" build. ;)
I think I will stay away from "colors" this time... tail between my legs and all from the awesome Gauntlet I competition. :-*
Pics will happen soon.
Hey .. I liked it ...!!!
Quote from: Davio on March 14, 2013, 09:31:27 AM
I just finished a bit of barbering on the "Brazilian" build. ;)
I think I will stay away from "colors" this time... tail between my legs and all from the awesome Gauntlet I competition. :-*
Pics will happen soon.
I liked it too David, even the best of us came nowhere in the running ;D
As it happens I didn't vote, mainly because I was in bed because you dudes are awake at strange times ;) and also because I couldn't actually choose one in particular.
Excellent frame work Carl. I have done the same thing to my latest frame project :-*
I see Davio is doing a little work for Gauntlet II :-X
I like that idea too.....especially taking the edge off the corners that was pretty cool Carl 8)
started work on some scope mounts for my bluestreak the inter-mount barrel clamp ones create more problems than they solve
ideally i wanted the ones that ballistic enterprizes make, but as they aren't answering emails i decide to make my own
i've still got a lot of work to do and hopefully the milling machine will be fixed shortly so i'll be able to have a go at cutting the dove tails
ped
Quote from: ped on March 14, 2013, 11:16:26 PM
ideally i wanted the ones that ballistic enterprizes make, but as they aren't answering emails...
Greg may have been attending the big AG show in Fresno, CA this past week. His stuff is excellent and ready to go. Your version is shaping up nicely, though.
Quote from: ped on March 14, 2013, 11:16:26 PM
started work on some scope mounts for my bluestreak the inter-mount barrel clamp ones create more problems than they solve
ideally i wanted the ones that ballistic enterprizes make, but as they aren't answering emails i decide to make my own
i've still got a lot of work to do and hopefully the milling machine will be fixed shortly so i'll be able to have a go at cutting the dove tails
ped
I talked with Gary the other day and ordered his INTEGRABASE for my Blue Streak. Perhaps I can act as a go between if you are interested in his INTEGRABASE.
Carl
I just put a Boss valve in my 2240 I can't give any numbers because I don't have a chronograph.
Quote from: targettgii on March 15, 2013, 04:28:22 AM
I just put a Boss valve in my 2240 I can't give any numbers because I don't have a chronograph.
Have you shot it yet? With the 'boss' valve you should be able to tell the difference when you shoot it. I also suspect your shot count per powerlet will go down considerably, unfortunately.
Carl
No haven't shot it yet hopefully on my days off I'll get the chance to shoot it.
put a rjmachine riser breech on my 1377 today
cutting the transfer port was a fun task
Quote from: quickster47 on March 15, 2013, 04:15:31 AM
I talked with Gary the other day and ordered his INTEGRABASE for my Blue Streak. Perhaps I can act as a go between if you are interested in his INTEGRABASE.
Carl
cheers carl pm sent
ped
Quote from: 1377x on March 15, 2013, 05:28:37 AM
put a rjmachine riser breech on my 1377 today
cutting the transfer port was a fun task
i hate cutting poly ports too usually takes a couple of attempt till i'm happy
ped
I had a tidy up with my spares box with a view to selling them on.
So far I have built 2 x 2240s and 3 x 2250s, they are all too nice to sell though, so I am back where I started now ;D
I have been working on a new formulation for grips. I will know in about 20 hours (very long cure time) whether they have the intended properties of durability and cushioned feel (and hopefully nice to look at as well). Wish me luck :-* (although luck has nothing to do with anything). If successful, this will lay the groundwork for the "Michelin" build I tossed out a few days ago.
Cool ... :-*
Quote from: Davio on March 16, 2013, 11:06:58 AM
I have been working on a new formulation for grips. I will know in about 20 hours (very long cure time) whether they have the intended properties of durability and cushioned feel (and hopefully nice to look at as well). Wish me luck :-* (although luck has nothing to do with anything). If successful, this will lay the groundwork for the "Michelin" build I tossed out a few days ago.
will these be a like the pachmayr rubber grips in feel as somebody who successfully manages to make them will sell alot i imagine
look forward to seeing them
ped
Quote from: ped on March 16, 2013, 10:41:43 AM
i hate cutting poly ports too usually takes a couple of attempt till i'm happy
ped
like you said it took a couple of tries good thing there was a long enough piece of poly tubing that came with the breech
I need to go to the hydroponic store and pick up some micro sprinkler irrigation line I like the material an inside diameter of that stuff.its nylon I think and the id is .161 matches my other ports correctly
Put the pro-top in my 2300, liking it so far. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on March 16, 2013, 11:13:46 PM
Put the pro-top in my 2300, liking it so far. :-*
if I had a co2 gun it would have a protop in it
Quote from: bgmcgee on March 16, 2013, 11:13:46 PM
Put the pro-top in my 2300, liking it so far. :-*
The ProTop is great. I think I have four or five of them on my different CO2 guns. Only thing is using the OEM gas caps is a pain so use the ones from HPA Sports. It makes piercing the powerlet very easy.
http://www.hpasports.com/pages/product-catalog-detail/CO2_Extended_Gas_Cap_for_Crosman_Model_2240?previous_url_id=1 (http://www.hpasports.com/pages/product-catalog-detail/CO2_Extended_Gas_Cap_for_Crosman_Model_2240?previous_url_id=1)
Carl
Hit the extended one already. :-*
Quote from: Davio on March 16, 2013, 11:06:58 AM
I have been working on a new formulation for grips. I will know in about 20 hours (very long cure time) whether they have the intended properties of durability and cushioned feel (and hopefully nice to look at as well). Wish me luck :-* (although luck has nothing to do with anything). If successful, this will lay the groundwork for the "Michelin" build I tossed out a few days ago.
Result: Looks great, but much too soft. Think gelatin. I need to bring the shore hardness way up. Learning here, so not a complete loss. I'll be back.
Modding my Mini lathe putting a new bed on it to give a longer between centers also going to 5" chucks 3 and 4 jaw :-*
Jim
Quote from: Davio on March 17, 2013, 05:30:13 AM
Result: Looks great, but much too soft. Think gelatin. I need to bring the shore hardness way up. Learning here, so not a complete loss. I'll be back.
Can't wait till you nail it down. I know you will.
Quote from: Davio on March 17, 2013, 05:30:13 AM
Result: Looks great, but much too soft. Think gelatin. I need to bring the shore hardness way up. Learning here, so not a complete loss. I'll be back.
That your first try came out at all is a good thing and the next and the next and so on will just get better. Glad you tried this and really do hope it is successful. :-*
Carl
After finding my 1322 and new pc77 are shooting high at greater range, I went to work. Extended the travel slot on 3 stock rear sight posts and touched up with cold blue. Now I'm back on target. With a straight front sight band, the stock sights aren't terrible for the pistols. :-*
I don't know if I posted these pics.i was messing around with making crowns the other and made a soup bowl crown :o ;D ;D
looking good Ed,should give some protection to the important part that way
Quote from: 1377x on March 17, 2013, 11:25:57 PM
I don't know if I posted these pics.i was messing around with making crowns the other and made a soup bowl crown :o ;D ;D
It looks good Ed, I'm not familiar with the effect of crowning but I have heard people talking about its affect on accuracy. I'm going to start a new thread to keep this one on track, after a search of course.
I just had the barrel on my .22lr re-crowned the crown kind of looks like the one I made
I was just having fun with an old barrel to see what I could come up with
if doing a slight crown this is the tool I used the crown looked great I ran away with the idea
treated it like it was a brass screw ;)
I dig that soup bowl crown ED :-*
Quote from: 1377x on March 17, 2013, 11:54:24 PM
I just had the barrel on my .22lr re-crowned the crown kind of looks like the one I made
I was just having fun with an old barrel to see what I could come up with
if doing a slight crown this is the tool I used the crown looked great I ran away with the idea
treated it like it was a brass screw ;)
I want chongman to make me a handle that looks like that. :-*
Quote from: 1377x on March 17, 2013, 11:25:57 PM
I don't know if I posted these pics.i was messing around with making crowns the other and made a soup bowl crown :o ;D ;D
thats a nice looking crown ed :-*
got a fair bit done this weekend i fitted a mrod trigger to my 2260 hpa then modded an old qb78 stock to fit ,i've still got to sort a trigger guard out i'm thinking of either a brass one or making something more akin to a lever action
also put the dovetails on the scope mounting blocks for my bluestreak i'm not really that happy with them
and finally did a bit of work on my entry for the gauntlet ll
i managed to get a s/h 2260 tube that had been drilled to take a disco valve but upon fitting a valve i found that the port was out of line and the one of the side holes was well out that coupled with the fact that i didn't have the right size fixings, my soloution was to convert all the holes to metric and go up a size on the side fixings which allowed me to realign the port and sort the already drilled holes in the tube
i'm going to be using the stainless hammer i made earlier so i lightened it a little bit it's now down 10g to 54g ideally i wanted to be at 50g so might have to bore the back out then fit a ptfe insert
i also cut down a trigger unit but might have made an error here :-[ but it gives me an opportunity to try a different sear linkage
ped
a few more pics
this way of pinning the valve is not the way i prefer to to it but i was stuck with the already drilled holes i normally use grub screws that are tapped into the valve and tube
ped
Now that is a seriously cut down trigger frame. More so than what I did with my stubby build. Good job ped. :-* :-* :-*
And a good job on securing the Discovery valve.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on March 18, 2013, 01:04:33 PM
Now that is a seriously cut down trigger frame. More so than what I did with my stubby build. Good job ped. :-* :-* :-*
And a good job on securing the Discovery valve.
Carl
not the best job i've ever done carl it was late and i was tired plus the frame was very difficult to clamp without distorting it hence the chatter marks plus i took too much off near the trigger pivot pin ,so i've got an opportunity to design and make a trigger linkage using the safety hole as a pivot
ped
ped I just my INTEGRABASE from Greg and wanted to show you what it looks like. The piece is just awesome. Workmanship and detail is fantastic. Soon as the order for yours gets placed and gets sent your way you will be one happy camper I am sure.
Carl
Yep, serious work on that grip frame and looking forward to seeing it again :-*
nice carl .greg is pretty quick with shipping ,got mine in 3 days --- just need a scope now
Quote from: quickster47 on March 19, 2013, 12:33:25 AM
ped I just my INTEGRABASE from Greg and wanted to show you what it looks like. The piece is just awesome. Workmanship and detail is fantastic.
Carl: Does your mount have shims between the mount body and the receiver?
Quote from: breakfastchef on March 19, 2013, 01:21:28 AM
Carl: Does your mount have shims between the mount body and the receiver?
Larry there are no shims. Nothing like a shim came in the package from Greg.
Forgot to get and end view which I will do later before I mount it on the gun.
Carl
I put a cart threw my 2240 today after putting a Boss valve in it.I believe I got more than 20 shots out of her don't really know for sure though was having fun and lost count. Next time will put out 20 first to see for sure. ???
Quote from: targettgii on March 19, 2013, 01:43:04 AM
I put a cart threw my 2240 today after putting a Boss valve in it.I believe I got more than 20 shots out of her don't really know for sure though was having fun and lost count. Next time will put out 20 first to see for sure. ???
Good news and sort of what I would have expected. And I can just bet that those 20 shots were full of lots of energy. :)
Carl
Yes Carl I believe that was the case it's cold here but had some lamb on the grill used pecan wood for smoke charcoal of course oh boy good stuff. :) :) :)
Quote from: targettgii on March 19, 2013, 01:50:51 AM
it's cold here but had some lamb on the grill used pecan wood for smoke charcoal of course oh boy good stuff. :) :) :)
Yummy, that sounds like some good eating you'll be having. :-*
Carl
Oh yeah man you bet it was.
lamb my favourite
that mount looks pure class carl don't even know if i'll even finish cleaning up the ones i 've made as gregs is in a different class
ped
put together a custom bolt handle and fixed my toy helicopter the inner shaft on the main shaft was broken
tiny screws and big mitts don't mix
Quote from: ped on March 19, 2013, 09:36:35 AM
that mount looks pure class carl don't even know if i'll even finish cleaning up the ones i 've made as gregs is in a different class
ped
I'll mount it up today and take a couple more pictures. Probably start a Blue Streak thread in the gallery for us.
Carl
QuoteProbably start a Blue Streak thread in the gallery for us.
Good idea Carl,
If I may make a suggestion: Allow the Silver series in the thread.
I sure wish I had a Silver Streak!
Cheers,
that would be good carl i do like mine just wish you could fit a ldc to it as mines got a bit of a bark
ped
Quote from: JEBert on March 19, 2013, 05:20:07 PM
Good idea Carl,
If I may make a suggestion: Allow the Silver series in the thread.
I sure wish I had a Silver Streak!
Cheers,
it should be benjamin or sheridan or current crosman benjamin/sheridan thread since they now are one of the same
Quote from: ped on March 19, 2013, 07:20:31 PM
that would be good carl i do like mine just wish you could fit a ldc to it as mines got a bit of a bark
ped
Ped: go here and look at this guy's website he has e'm http://milzone.itrademarket.com/search+muzzle brake (http://milzone.itrademarket.com/search+muzzle%20brake)
cheers brian i was thinking off possibly modding an end cap
ped
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That's a cool looking crowning bit (?), Eric. Never seen one of those before... ???
Where did you find it? Something like that would be perfect for a guy with no lathe like me!
Todd
Quote from: HappyHunter on March 20, 2013, 12:18:20 AM
That's a cool looking crowning bit (?), Eric. Never seen one of those before... ???
Where did you find it? Something like that would be perfect for a guy with no lathe like me!
Todd
got it from brownells ,its the 1/2" 11 degree facer/crowning tool. if you look closely at the this picture you can see a slight ring around the the chatter marks --- it bore into the barrel and left a little material along the edge as the barrel was to big. it's fine for the 7/16" barrels --- i should have went with the 3/4" tool but a file fixed that :P :-[ :) (http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq93/JUSTJOHNY/airgun%20stuff/010-4_zps148b5789.jpg) http://www.brownells.com/items/barrel-crowning-tool.aspx (http://www.brownells.com/items/barrel-crowning-tool.aspx)
You have to turn that chamfer tool as slow as your drill can go and use a couple of drops of oil. Even turn it by hand if possible. The chatter comes from to high of rpm's for that size and angle tool. Also, it might help to re-flatten the face and start fresh. Once you get out towards the OD of the barrel, stop and pull back easy. If it starts to rotate and not cut can cause chatter as well.
Rich
the drill had a hi/lo setting and on both it still produced the chatter marks with cutting oil --- i used cutting oil(lots) and cleaned the tool frequently and still the same results. i have a few more barrels to play with so ....
Try more pressure then (carefully) and STOP and reverse as soon as you get close to the OD.
Also, does the chatter start after you get out a ways? May just need to make a shallower chamfer. It won't look as good, but you really just need to get past the rifling anyways.
Sorry, maybe too much help. It's just when I see things like that I just want to fly to Vermont and try it myself. Can't help it. Compulsive anal disorder. Can't be cured, Sorry. ;)
things to ponder,thanks --- right now it shoots better at 5 yards than it did before but still can't say that is much better ---- waiting for so 160 parts to come in ,then i can try some other things
I think the crown looks like a pretty flower. That makes the barrel unique.
Quote from: breakfastchef on March 20, 2013, 01:41:04 AM
I think the crown looks like a pretty flower. That makes the barrel unique.
kinda what i was thinking too
they do look different giving an almost jewelled effect
ped
I like the way the crown looks. it looks like it should be that way
I like it that way too. When I first saw the pic, I thought it was done on purpose and that I really liked it.
have you seen the crowns that say smile?
you can get them to say anything on any gun they will fit on
I was going to order a barrel for my glock that says smile on it
i like the way it looks and will keep it like this until warmer weather comes around then i'lll be able to see if its a problem or not ???
I think it looks pretty cool as long as the accuracy is good I personally would leave it like that it's very unique.
I think when my next marauder .25 barrel gets here i'll do something like this only mine will say lights out
http://www.hishandslaser.com/c-262-custom-images.aspx (http://www.hishandslaser.com/c-262-custom-images.aspx)
pmsl my keyboards now covered in tea ed
ped
and mine...with coffee.
Quote from: 1377x on March 21, 2013, 07:12:07 AM
I think when my next marauder .25 barrel gets here i'll do something like this only mine will say lights out
http://www.hishandslaser.com/c-262-custom-images.aspx (http://www.hishandslaser.com/c-262-custom-images.aspx)
That is awesome, love it. How much does something like that cost to have done?
Quote from: Tater on March 21, 2013, 03:13:08 PM
That is awesome, love it. How much does something like that cost to have done?
I have no idea the price was on one of the firearm forums I belong to but that was a couple years ago so the price could be outdated anyhow
maybe a quick email to the link can get an answer
i'll do that later today
Likey likey. And I just covered my keyboard in JB Weld as I am doing a couple of hammers.
Quote from: droid on March 21, 2013, 04:42:00 PM
Likey likey. And I just covered my keyboard in JB Weld as I am doing a couple of hammers.
That sounds kinky in a robot kind of way. ??? ;D
Quote from: Davio on March 22, 2013, 08:47:02 AM
That sounds kinky in a robot kind of way. ??? ;D
Yes I suppose I could have worded that better. Depends on how corrupt your mind is to start off with though David ;D ;D
Waayyy late to the party (as usual :-[), but finally received my first P-rod grip frame. :)
JB'd the hammer and installed frame/hammer on my 1750 PCP.
:o...Awesome! Amazing how much more accurate it is now with a proper trigger installed 8)
Todd
Quote from: HappyHunter on March 23, 2013, 10:37:17 AM
:o...Awesome! Amazing how much more accurate it is now with a proper trigger installed 8)
Todd
Good to hear that we have another satisfied customer. ;)
Carl
I started rebuilding a Remington Airmaster 77 (re-branded Crosman 2100).
I cleaned up the barrel cover with a scotchbrite wheel, and proceeded to polish it with Flitz.
Now I'm wondering, do I finish polishing, or go back to satin.
Shiny looks nice, until it gets a fingerprint.
The stock and forearm are fake wood shiny black plastic.
Here's shiny:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/Shiny.jpg)
Here's satin:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/Satin.jpg)
I don't know what the original finish looked like, because I started with this:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/Orig.jpg)
WOW!!!
good job literally night and day difference :-*
Quote from: YSYEO on March 23, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
I started rebuilding a Remington Airmaster 77 (re-branded Crosman 2100).
I cleaned up the barrel cover with a scotchbrite wheel, and proceeded to polish it with Flitz.
Now I'm wondering, do I finish polishing, or go back to satin.
Shiny looks nice, until it gets a fingerprint.
Definitely shiny :-* A little car wax may help. I always wipe down my polished 760 after use with a soft cloth and the light finger prints come right off.
Quote from: 1377x on March 21, 2013, 07:12:07 AM
I think when my next marauder .25 barrel gets here i'll do something like this only mine will say lights out
http://www.hishandslaser.com/c-262-custom-images.aspx (http://www.hishandslaser.com/c-262-custom-images.aspx)
I love it now that is very cool lmao..
Mike
Quote from: YSYEO on March 23, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
I started rebuilding a Remington Airmaster 77 (re-branded Crosman 2100).
I cleaned up the barrel cover with a scotchbrite wheel, and proceeded to polish it with Flitz.
Now I'm wondering, do I finish polishing, or go back to satin.
Shiny looks nice, until it gets a fingerprint.
The stock and forearm are fake wood shiny black plastic.
Here's shiny:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/Shiny.jpg)
Here's satin:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/Satin.jpg)
I don't know what the original finish looked like, because I started with this:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/Orig.jpg)
I vote shinny.
Mike
I'm with Mike. For that particular gun 'shiny' is thee way to go.
Carl
definately shiney
ped
Shiny with satin striping. If you can figure out how to do that, let me know.
Shiny for sure YSYEO! Mine is polished too and I love it. I wipe it with 0000 steel wool after each use and it shines right up. I want to bedline the pump arm and stock on mine but don't want to take it apart again cuz it's a real pain to put it back together again!
Quote from: breakfastchef on March 23, 2013, 06:05:07 PM
Shiny with satin striping. If you can figure out how to do that, let me know.
Now you've got me considering shiny with satin ghost flames (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
No gun work per se, but I went to home depot and found some duct seal. The stuff works wonders at stopping pellets! Just threw some in a plastic container and fired some pellets outside, I may have to build a proper duct seal trap though. :-*
Quote from: YSYEO on March 23, 2013, 09:26:08 PM
Now you've got me considering shiny with satin ghost flames (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
Nice work. But that's the barrel right, and not the shroud? If so, won't it just be hidden by the shroud?
Quote from: BerkshireHunter on March 23, 2013, 09:32:14 PM
Nice work. But that's the barrel right, and not the shroud? If so, won't it just be hidden by the shroud?
It's the shroud. I referred to it as a cover, because I didn't want any government spies reading my post to think I was talking about "that shoulder thing that goes up". ;D
Quote from: YSYEO on March 23, 2013, 09:46:20 PM
It's the shroud. I referred to it as a cover, because I didn't want any government spies reading my post to think I was talking about "that shoulder thing that goes up". ;D
The government folks are already reading the CAPOF and your post has been tagged. :-X
Carl
Modded my hammer for the Scaramanga gun so I can use my P Rod grip frame.
Had me puzzled for a while when I first built this one up, I have a rear breech screw location in my new shorty breech and when I fitted it I forgot to change the hammer for a scooped one. So I changed the hammer for a scooped one then remembered the groove needed filling in that one for the P Rod frame. Doh ! you would think I would remember by now.
Doesn't JB Weld make a bladdy mess, or is it just me ? (Typing this on a keyboard covered in dry JB weld)
Quote from: droid on March 23, 2013, 11:03:07 PM
Doesn't JB Weld make a bladdy mess, or is it just me ? (Typing this on a keyboard covered in dry JB weld)
Must be you cause JB Weld has never bothered my keyboard, too much.
JB Weld - JB Weld - JB Weld - JB Weld - JB Weld - JB Weld - JB Weld we have control of your keycaps... :D
Carl
It won't bother yours Carl will it, you have a row of workshops on thay big estate of yours ;D
I am doing mine while I work which granted aint the best idea with JB Weld everywhere.
Not much work airgun related just some shooting, but I did mow the lawns, made a paper towel holder for the garage and printed out some more targets.
Quote from: 1377x on March 21, 2013, 07:12:07 AM
I think when my next marauder .25 barrel gets here i'll do something like this only mine will say lights out
http://www.hishandslaser.com/c-262-custom-images.aspx (http://www.hishandslaser.com/c-262-custom-images.aspx)
Laser engraving is very cheap here..It's just P100/$2.42 in any design on a 2"x4" size. Could not believe it myself when my friend showed me his laser engraved ag breech and it's just inside a mall about 4 kms away from me...
How much are you paying for these things in the US btw?
Still playing with rust bluing. Current solution is 2 oz 3% hydrogen peroxide, 1/4 tsp white vinegar and sea salt to make a saturated solution at room temperature.
Finished the QB79, and started in on the Crosman based .32 pcp. Finished the top end and polished a few bits 'n bobs before assembling it. I'm VERY pleased with the results...pics do not do it true justice. Hoping to have the tube finished tomorrow or Monday. :)
Before;
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/Check%20valve/Stirrup%20pump/Airguns/IMG_3336-1.jpg)
Now;
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3851_zpsfd7ca086.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3854_zps6fc94a59.jpg)
Al
As always very clean work Mr. G 8) is that a custom made breech and did you make that yourself? Looks like a Crooked Barn breech but since it's steel then I don't think it is. Best regards.
A fellow in our local airgun group provided the barrel, some ammo and the loan of a CB shot shell breech to take some measurements off. I made a few subtle changes, steel being one of them.
Gets 6 shots/1700psi fill and peaks @ 30fpe.
Good eye BTW. :)
Al
sweet!
nice work as usual!
Gippeto that is sweet looking. Love that fill piece on the tube. Great idea. :-*
Carl
Very sweet project you have there :-*
Quote from: Gippeto on March 24, 2013, 05:09:00 AM
A fellow in our local airgun group provided the barrel, some ammo and the loan of a CB shot shell breech to take some measurements off. I made a few subtle changes, steel being one of them.
Gets 6 shots/1700psi fill and peaks @ 30fpe.
Good eye BTW. :)
Al
very nice work.
i am curious as to how the shotshell breeches work
Quote from: cheewee on March 25, 2013, 04:40:21 AM
very nice work.
i am curious as to how the shotshell breeches work
Me too on the shotshell breech. Is there any text or link on this subject or is it just something you learn along the way?
Carl
I remember seeing a CB shot shell air pistol posted here about a year ago. It was very clean and decent looking..
Not too sure what you guys mean by "how it works"?
Air path?
It's a flow through bolt. The transfer port seals on the lower side of the breech, passage up to the bolt. The bolt (1/2" od) has an o-ring on either side of the transfer port. Air passes up the TP, into and through the bolt.
Bolt seals on the breech end of the barrel with a captive o-ring.
Can put up a pic or two tonight if anything is still in need of clarification.
Al
Got it. So it is a flow-through bolt if you will. Why do they call it a shotshell breech?
Thanks,
Carl
The original used the shot shells from the 1100 trapmaster.
Have never spoken with the Jim about it to confirm, but I suspect that had something to do with it. :)
(http://www.arts-shack.com/images/air__image0.jpg)
Ok, shot-shell explanation helps a lot :-*
Resealed an old Crosman 2200 and started on an old 760. I think what I can find on the 760 maybe mid 80's! The rear site is groken off , but it clamped around the barrel and not screwed to it! ??? Never seen one like that. Planing on doing a full custom on it! :-*
That's some nice work on that pistol Gippeto, and I love that breech. :-* :-* :-*
Lots of space to embellish the BNM repeater breech. Pictured is a first attempt to add something unique to this particular pistol. Caffine is one of the substances I still regularly abuse.
At first glance, I thought you were selling advertising on it. ;D ;D
That could be an idea,looks like there is room. ;D
Quote from: breakfastchef on March 26, 2013, 02:34:41 AM
Lots of space to embellish the BNM repeater breech. Pictured is a first attempt to add something unique to this particular pistol. Caffine is one of the substances I still regularly abuse.
I like that idea. Going to embellish some of mine with a few stickers I have hanging around.
Maybe we can start selling advertising space on our guns, sort of like what they do on some web pages. ;D
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on March 26, 2013, 01:35:53 PM
I like that idea. Going to embellish some of mine with a few stickers I have hanging around.
Maybe we can start selling advertising space on our guns, sort of like what they do on some web pages. ;D
Carl
Actually mine has a gold sticker on the grip frame but it can't be seen w/ the grips on. I stuck it on my brass adorned Lothar barreled 2400Kt w/c right now is in disassemble. It's a computer cut sticker of our defunct Philippine Blowgun club called PHISBA..Gonna post a pic of it tomorrow..I was planning to put some on my other 2 Crosmans and I think that now this has been mentioned I think a CAPOF sticker would look great but I will stick it the same as the 1st one for subtlety. Best regards.
There is another great idea, why don't we come up with a CAPOF sticker and have some made. I think I need to start a new thread on that.
Good going Mister Crossliner.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on March 26, 2013, 04:04:36 PM
There is another great idea, why don't we come up with a CAPOF sticker and have some made. I think I need to start a new thread on that.
Good going Mister Crossliner.
Carl
That's actually a good idea, assuming the pistol was created using CAPOF influences like Gauntlet or other events (I know members belong to other forums) so when these pistols are found by others cruising the net they know where they originated. Even a small capof tag next to the pic would work.
all cool ideas!
look what you started! ;D
Quote from: quickster47 on March 26, 2013, 04:04:36 PM
There is another great idea, why don't we come up with a CAPOF sticker and have some made. I think I need to start a new thread on that.
Good going Mister Crossliner.
Carl
Yes sir I will have 2 computer cut stickers made today..This will be some sort of a pariah CAPOF sticker as right now we have still no specific design..Here are samples of CARBON FIBER stickerS for my blowguns w/c I never used because on a gray or black tube they tend to disappear..They are cheap here just $ cents..Kindly check out pics for perusal. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/Richardpics542_zpsbb559096.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/bgvelocitytest002LEFORA.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_2134.jpg)
I like those stickers, Mr. Crossliner!
That gives me an idea, does anyone know where we could get a gold metalic sticker that we could wrap around a barrel?
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on March 27, 2013, 04:24:57 AM
I like those stickers, Mr. Crossliner!
That gives me an idea, does anyone know where we could get a gold metalic sticker that we could wrap around a barrel?
Cheers,
They are very cheap here MR. JB and the color and color combo is your imagination..My advantage is that I live in a major city and I know my way around.. I need something and I am just minutes away..Here is a sample of my own CAPOF sticker..Last night it was still emblazoned w/ golden PHISBA but I removed it so here she is..The red and silver gray combo are for my 2 black and silver themed Crosmans while this 1 is for my black and brass LW 2400KT..Had them made for $0.50 each and it took minutes only. Best regards.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0336_zps8e21444d.jpg)
..now you see it..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0334_zps487c03f9.jpg)
..now you don't ;)
That CAPOF sticker is cool! Can you add "Crosman Air Pistol Owners Forum" in very small font underneath?
Great job :-*
Quote from: arkmaker on March 27, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
That CAPOF sticker is cool! Can you add "Crosman Air Pistol Owners Forum" in very small font underneath?
Great job :-*
Like I have said Mr. Ark no limits ;) Best regards..
Man, I really like the gold & red on the black background :-*
Me too sir and thanks 8)
Quote from: arkmaker on March 27, 2013, 01:17:22 PM
Man, I really like the gold & red on the black background :-*
Yes, yes, yes. :-*
Just curious but translated into American dollars about what would they cost us for 250 of them?
Carl
started making a new set of grips for my 2240 also made a brass safety
ped
ped those are gonna be nice. What is that you are using?
Carl
"Crosman Air Pistol Owners Forum" should have all of the S's be dollar signs ($). Can't figure out a way to put the dollar signs on the initials CAPOF though. I would put CAPOF stickers on my guns and/or gun cases. I also like the idea of a patch for a hat or jacket as posted in the 2013 Gun Show thread.
The solid gold metallic idea was to put a sheet around a barrel (with the seam on the bottom) instead of polishing or plating it to give it a polished look with less work and maintenance than polishing and less price than plating.
Cheers,
labernum carl its as hard as bell iron but has one of the nicest grains imho ,in the uk wood turners go crazy for it
i'm going to try to get a stock made from it one day ironically i logged about 2 tonne of it the other year sure wish i'd saved some of it now
ped
Very fine looking grip work ped, I am drooling over here :-\
Quote from: ped on March 27, 2013, 10:26:28 PM
labernum carl its as hard as bell iron but has one of the nicest grains imho ,in the uk wood turners go crazy for it
i'm going to try to get a stock made from it one day ironically i logged about 2 tonne of it the other year sure wish i'd saved some of it now
ped
Ped I just looked up that wood and must say it is impressive. Has been used for all kinds of things from cabinet making to bagpipes.
Carl
Quote from: ped on March 27, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
started making a new set of grips for my 2240 also made a brass safety
ped
I'm jelly. :D :-*
Making some safety hole plugs tonight, 6 pair from stainless steel, brass ones to come soon...
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Machine%20Werks/safetyplug1_zpsef2df254.jpg)
chongman , put me down for 2 sets. :-*
I've never heard of safety plugs. Why would someone remove the safety, for bling? ???
There's a few guys that don't use a safety.
For all the times I have pulled the trigger and had the safety engaged, I say "Oh Hell Yes"! :-*
I have a few guns that only I shoot (maybe occasionally one of the grown kids or their lesser halves). I would / will have a gun or two safety-less. But the guns the grands shoot will have their safeties. I control that. 8)
looks good michael i struggle to turn things that small in our lathe
ped
Yup, looks good Michael. Just wondering why you're leaving the nub on the end or is that where it's chucked? Would love to have a set for my 77 :-*
Quote from: sandpiper on March 28, 2013, 11:57:54 AM
Yup, looks good Michael. Just wondering why you're leaving the nub on the end or is that where it's chucked? Would love to have a set for my 77 :-*
Those are freshly off the lathe. I'll switch collets and take the nub off once I get a nice pile of them. I'll have some ready to go after the weekend for anybody who wants them, brass plugs are on the menu also!
Quote from: chongman on March 28, 2013, 02:55:31 PM
Those are freshly off the lathe. I'll switch collets and take the nub off once I get a nice pile of them. I'll have some ready to go after the weekend for anybody who wants them, brass plugs are on the menu also!
Ahh, I see. Please put me in for a set :-*
I'll take 2 sets ... :-* when you have time ....
Quote from: Tater on March 28, 2013, 03:41:43 AM
I've never heard of safety plugs. Why would someone remove the safety, for bling? ???
Don't know that I've ever seen a match level airgun target pistol with a safety. Worrying about it takes away from other needed concentration.
Carl
Think you are right on that one Carl, can't remember ever seeing any safety levers on the Morini, IZH, Anschutz or Steyr guns. The entire process of 10 meter shooting was about safe gun handling and true gun control.
sneaked an hour this afternoon on my new grips(one of the benefits of working for yourself) and got them all sanded up then managed to get the first coat of tung oil on them
just need to try out my 2240 now to see if i can hit the barn (last time i shot it i struggled to hit the broad side of it)
ped
they're soooo beautiful :-*
Wow ped, those are really impressive for a first set. Excellent! :-* :-* :-*
Carl
excellent ped, simple, well shaped, nicely finished, I like, a lot! :-*
Those are some beautiful grips ped. :-*
Quote from: quickster47 on March 28, 2013, 09:04:17 PM
Don't know that I've ever seen a match level airgun target pistol with a safety. Worrying about it takes away from other needed concentration.
Carl
Thanks. I don't think I've ever even seen a match level pistol.
cheers guys i didn't get the inletting as good on these as my other ones i made but i'm quite happy with them
i've tried a couple of dry fires on the 2240 and don't seem to be pulling high right with the muzzle as i was with the yew grips
hopefully tomorrow i might puts some holes in a target
ped
nice ped, what wood?
:-*
its laburnum kraaash it has a grain that like pearlescent paint changes when viewed from different angles
ped
Quote from: Tater on March 28, 2013, 10:37:58 PM
Thanks. I don't think I've ever even seen a match level pistol.
Here is one, it is my older Feinwerkbau 103 Single Stroke Pneumatic.
Carl
Had to reseal the PHoenix today.blew an o-ring. Now have toreset the scope. O well don't have anything else to do on Friday. LOL ;D ;D ;D
Replaced the barrel on my Marauder pistol with another factory one. After about 1500 pellets of almost every brand you could name (H and N field target trophy best, Gamo the worst), I was not satisfied with the accuracy of the one that came with it. I took a chance, ordered one for $25 and the one they sent two weeks later, looked like it has a good crown. I polished the bore with blue max metal polish then JB non embedding, not sure if that made any difference. Then installed it. After about 200 rounds the barrel seems to be leading up to normal and accuracy is getting a LITTLE better then the old barrel.
Thinking of changing the transfer port too, i'd like to get 800 FPS out of it. From the youtube video where the guy tests all sizes of transfer ports he made - seems like maximum velocity combined with most number of shots means a transfer port of about .110 or .111 i.d. (the factory one is sized .080). Getting ready to try some RWS Hypermax pellets which are made of aluminum, i think, from the looks of them. But at $10 for 80 they are quite dear. If they are accurate though i will gladly buy more.
My goal is a gun that will be a good squirrel and rat or rabbit killer one day, when i leave california (the closest shooting range costs $18 per person and does NOT ALLOW PELLET GUNS...no reason given, just "not permitted". Go figure!). There is a niche market that somebody should really fill, for P-rod components you can;t get from crosman. Your only barrel choices are the $25 benjamin barrel from crosman (at that price i'm not surprised so many barrels prove innacurate right out of the box) OR the Walther barrel from Jim Gaska for $130. I'm not saying the walther barrels aren't worth it - the detail photos people have taken of stock bore vs. walther bore show the high level of bore machining in the wwalther, plus Mr Gaska has to do a lot of machining to make the barrels simply bolt in. But there ought to be SOMEthing else available for this otherwise very good PCP air gun.
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j169/marc780/Marauder1.jpg)
markasaurus: haven't seen you on here lately, glad you are stopping by again... "leave California" ? I did that years ago and moved to Idaho where we have about 1 million square acres of open space to shoot, hunt, fish or whatever. US Forest Service + BLM + State owned land in total is about 60% of the state! I think we even have a state law that you MUST have a gun in your truck :D ;D
US Forest Service + BLM + State owned land in total is about 60% of the state! I think we even have a state law that you MUST have a gun in your truck
My kind of state ... :-*
I fine tuned the scope and reset my laser on my 1377 this week.
Also finally got the safety spring and ball back in my 1322 after the polish job I did on the trigger over a month ago! (I do see improvement in the trigger)
Quote from: BDS on March 29, 2013, 03:26:37 PM
markasaurus: haven't seen you on here lately, glad you are stopping by again... "leave California" ? I did that years ago and moved to Idaho where we have about 1 million square acres of open space to shoot, hunt, fish or whatever. US Forest Service + BLM + State owned land in total is about 60% of the state! I think we even have a state law that you MUST have a gun in your truck :D ;D
if i ever get the opportunity to live your side of the pond i recon idaho could be the place
ped
Your welcome here anytime ped, got a 2900 sq ft home and a 10 meter airgun range in the garage, 25 meters in the backyard. Those 1 million square acres I noted start about 2 miles up river from the house! :D
That's one heck of a back yard. :-*
Today I got started on my little project
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130329132942227_zpsd1c7e234.jpg)
Should have them done tomorrow, got to let the glue dry, then its off to the mail . Hopefully they meet expectations. :-X
backyard in quotes "backyard"... that pic is about 1 mile from my place looking north up the Payette River, more pine trees than a 100 folks could count in a 100 lifetimes.
that looks a nice back yard brian sure beats the conjested uk although we have some good scenery
ped
I made this from a stainless steel 8-32 pan head.....can anyone guess what it is ???
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322Mag/SightPin_zps2fe4ce7c.jpg)
Quote from: WyoMan on March 30, 2013, 03:14:52 AM
I made this from a stainless steel 8-32 pan head.....can anyone guess what it is ???
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322Mag/SightPin_zps2fe4ce7c.jpg)
Sight pin
Was it obvious Mr Chef...... next time I'll get you earlier in the day.....this may be part of Gauntlet 2 ???
Quote from: WyoMan on March 30, 2013, 03:30:24 AM
Was it obvious Mr Chef...... next time I'll get you earlier in the day.....this may be part of Gauntlet 2 ???
Did you use a Sharpie for the red or food coloring or what?
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on March 30, 2013, 03:55:11 AM
Did you use a Sharpie for the red or food coloring or what?
Carl
Wow you guys are good.....a sharpie it was Carl....give a translucent color on stainless :)
Sight pin looks good! :)
Just finished putting the .32 back together, filled and tested....I'm kinda stoked! 8)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3859_zps50774e38.jpg)
Al
Quote from: WyoMan on March 30, 2013, 03:14:52 AM
I made this from a stainless steel 8-32 pan head.....can anyone guess what it is ???
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322Mag/SightPin_zps2fe4ce7c.jpg)
I was gonna say earplug ;)
Quote from: Gippeto on March 30, 2013, 06:28:14 AM
Sight pin looks good! :)
Just finished putting the .32 back together, filled and tested....I'm kinda stoked! 8)
Al
As you should be ... that is awesome !!!
Quote from: Gippeto on March 30, 2013, 06:28:14 AM
Sight pin looks good! :)
Just finished putting the .32 back together, filled and tested....I'm kinda stoked! 8)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3859_zps50774e38.jpg)
Al
Gippeto, is your front fill device screwed into the tube or is held in with screws? If screwed in did you make that fill device?
Carl
Quote from: Gippeto on March 30, 2013, 06:28:14 AM
Sight pin looks good! :)
Just finished putting the .32 back together, filled and tested....I'm kinda stoked! 8)
Al: What kind of foot pounds is that pistol producing? Are you getting a fair bit of muzzle rise?
Thanks fellas. :)
Carl, the fill plug (brass piece) is a probe style fill (the stainless piece) which I made for this project. It is held by 3x 10-32 low head SHCS with the heads countersunk into the brass. Pretty strong setup IMO.
Pistol peaks @ 30ftlbs. Gets 6 shots on a 1700psi fill.
It pops a little. ;)
Al
Nice work Al......exceptional power in a compact package :-* and without the extreme high pressure :)
I'll bet that one is fun, fun, FUN! :-*
Tired of the all black on my 2400KT so I figured a little paint was in order. Was in the mid 50's today, not the best for painting outside, but what the hell. I thought the contrast with the camo tan would look OK. I'm working on replacing (as finances allow) all the blued end caps, bolt handle and muzzle brake with brass parts. Should look good when It's finished.
Well something was bugging me for a while, the P Rod trigger stood out on my all black 2550 so today I popped it out, gave it a clean up and blued it. :)
Looks fine and dandy now :-*
AS13 that is looking mighty fine. I like the color combination and the brass pieces will give it some more class.
Carl
Quote from: droid on March 30, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
Well something was bugging me for a while, the P Rod trigger stood out on my all black 2550 so today I popped it out, gave it a clean up and blued it. :)
Looks fine and dandy now :-*
Yeah, well the picture you failed to post didn't give us much to see so we still be waiting to pass judgment. ;)
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on March 30, 2013, 10:36:30 PM
Yeah, well the picture you failed to post didn't give us much to see so we still be waiting to pass judgment. ;)
Carl
Here you go Mr Q ;)
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/2550.jpg)
Oh Bugger :D I just noticed the hollow probe isn't black, that is a job for tomorrow now with the brass black liquid.
Gary,
Red would look OK on that gun. :)
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on March 30, 2013, 10:48:35 PM
Gary,
Red would look OK on that gun. :)
Cheers,
This is my plain jane gun, it is quite a matte finish, looks shiny in the pic. I hand selected all the dull finish pieces that I could get for this one.
Anyways I only got blacking kits, Alu Black, Brass Black and Home Blue Kit ;D
Quote from: JEBert on March 30, 2013, 10:48:35 PM
Gary,
Red would look OK on that gun. :)
Cheers,
A splash of red would definitely be a great accent to your gun.
Carl
I keep telling you I ain't got no red, anyways I am colorblind ;D
Quote from: droid on March 30, 2013, 10:58:14 PM
I keep telling you I ain't got no red, anyways I am colorblind ;D
ok how about some blue(well it'll look blue to you but red to us) ;D ;D
looks good gary what did you use to blue it
ped
Quote from: ped on March 30, 2013, 11:05:12 PM
ok how about some blue(well it'll look blue to you but red to us) ;D ;D
ped
Too funny on that one...
Carl
Quote from: AS13 on March 30, 2013, 10:03:37 PM
Tired of the all black on my 2400KT so I figured a little paint was in order. Was in the mid 50's today, not the best for painting outside, but what the hell. I thought the contrast with the camo tan would look OK. I'm working on replacing (as finances allow) all the blued end caps, bolt handle and muzzle brake with brass parts. Should look good when It's finished.
Looks right out of the BigErn 'playbook'. He is the resident spray paint master. --Looks excellent--
Quote from: droid on March 30, 2013, 10:42:06 PM
Here you go Mr Q ;)
Nice doofer, Gary. Sure miss the pretty pink wallpaper with the hearts pattern as the background.
Good luck with blackening the brass. I have more luck using a marker.
QuoteI ain't got no red,
How do you know? ;D
Quote from: JEBert on March 30, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
How do you know? ;D
Good point, I never thought about that ;D
Quote from: ped on March 30, 2013, 11:05:12 PM
ok how about some blue(well it'll look blue to you but red to us) ;D ;D
looks good gary what did you use to blue it
ped
Aw you've sewn the seed now, I want red accents :D
I use Casey Super Blue, takes a few applications and it's smelly but not to bad.
Put together a new power plant that should get 10+ fpe......if my math is better than my spelling ;D
can't say much more unless it works.....
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322Mag/Internals_zps0dd7e2b0.jpg)
Quote from: sandpiper on March 23, 2013, 04:07:29 PM
Definitely shiny :-* A little car wax may help. I always wipe down my polished 760 after use with a soft cloth and the light finger prints come right off.
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 23, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
I vote shinny.
Mike
Quote from: quickster47 on March 23, 2013, 05:32:06 PM
I'm with Mike. For that particular gun 'shiny' is thee way to go.
Carl
Quote from: ped on March 23, 2013, 05:47:13 PM
definately shiney
ped
Quote from: BigErn on March 23, 2013, 08:39:29 PM
Shiny for sure YSYEO! Mine is polished too and I love it. I wipe it with 0000 steel wool after each use and it shines right up. I want to bedline the pump arm and stock on mine but don't want to take it apart again cuz it's a real pain to put it back together again!
Well, then,
shiny it is! After getting it back together, I decided to put a scope on it, since the rear sight was missing. I then took it to the range for a quick test.
Here it is with the 41x Tasco on it.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/4-1/RemiBenchTasco.jpg)
And here are the results from the range.
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/4-1/Range%20Report%20April%201.jpg)
YSYEO that is just awesome!!!
You do realize that this one post is going to cause a run on all places selling BBs and Crosman BB Guns.
You are definitely a trends setter this morning. ;D
Carl
Gotta Love it!! Happy 1st ;)
This weekend i striped down a steel breech,frame,tube and barrel for another build going to paint it with DuraCoat. Also removed the line off of the frame.
Mike
Now That's A Scope!!!!! ;D
Wow :D Great scope for target shooting and checking for incoming asteroids :-*
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Very nice Mister Eric, very nice indeed. :-*
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on April 03, 2013, 01:06:35 AM
Very nice Mister Eric, very nice indeed. :-*
Carl
thanks, this is a before picture --- i will reblue the breech this weekend and maybe recrown the other barrel and reblue it as well (http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq93/JUSTJOHNY/airgun%20stuff/IMG_9164.jpg)
Nice work Eric
Two thumbs up (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/2ThumbsUp1eye.gif)
Gauntlet II entry completed and entered. Now on to something more in line with my limited abilities/tooling/interests.
Getting ready to implement some changes on my 2240 I used for the probe testing. First thing is going to be a valve change. Combining a Disco back end with the Pro-Top valve top. Will be using a Disco valve stem and a much lighter valve spring as I also get ready to experiment with some very light hammers.
Carl
Quote from: breakfastchef on April 03, 2013, 02:46:30 AM
Gauntlet II entry completed and entered. Now on to something more in line with my limited abilities/tooling/interests.
Now what are you going to do till September 1st?
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on April 03, 2013, 04:20:40 AM
Now what are you going to do till September 1st?
Carl
Waiting on the results from your next set of tests on the 2240
Badgering you for plans to build the purpose-built Pro-Top removal tool
Trying to get the BSA R-10 from droid
Quote from: breakfastchef on April 03, 2013, 04:35:45 AM
Badgering you for plans to build the purpose-built Pro-Top removal tool
PM sent regarding this tool.
Carl
Quote from: breakfastchef on April 03, 2013, 04:35:45 AM
Waiting on the results from your next set of tests on the 2240
Badgering you for plans to build the purpose-built Pro-Top removal tool
Trying to get the BSA R-10 from droid
;D ;D Have a pic anyway Larry
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/s10new.jpg)
R-10 ? :D Brilliant Gary, love those carbines... those are the dogs naglies or is it cats patutees or mash with bang.. ??? :-X ;D
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/s10new.jpg)
VERY nice. :-\
Al
Quote from: Gippeto on April 03, 2013, 04:31:42 PM
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/s10new.jpg)
VERY nice. :-\
Al
X10!
Quote from: BDS on April 03, 2013, 03:39:08 PM
R-10 ? :D Brilliant Gary, love those carbines... those are the dogs naglies or is it cats patutees or mash with bang.. ??? :-X ;D
John Bowkett Blueprinted BSA SuperTen Bull Barrel Karbine in .22 Flavour.
I just installed a steel breech on my 1377.
Also got a stainless breech screw and the lighter trigger spring from eBay.
The trigger mod was well worth the 7 bucks.
Later today I want to take her apart again and polish up the sear contact points and see if that helps any more.
I am waiting on a rear site from Archer so in the meantime I am just using a cheap red dot from my kids pistol.
Still contemplating whether this will be all the work that that I want to do on this one.
So far I am having great fun with this pistol.
Trying to install a tactical rail on a 2240. Needs a little work, but should be doable with the tools I have on hand.
Quote from: breakfastchef on April 06, 2013, 08:55:27 PM
Trying to install a tactical rail on a 2240. Needs a little work, but should be doable with the tools I have on hand.
I like this :-*
that's an awesome rifle Gary. Rail looks good Larry. Myself I'm finishing up 3 more traps. They should be in the mail Monday :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on April 06, 2013, 08:55:27 PM
Trying to install a tactical rail on a 2240. Needs a little work, but should be doable with the tools I have on hand.
Nice Larry, the ones I have seen done have used the 2250 rear forearm plate and the front 2250 BB to attach the rail. Just needs a couple of forearm screws then.
heres how i mounted a short one on my 2250
ped
Finally have the Tree Rat stock fitted to the frame and tube! Hopefully, I will finish sand and stain tomorrow.
(http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae317/Arkmaker/Outdoorsman/100_0267_zps78c57356.jpg)
Chef, ped, ark....good stuff there :-*
arkmaker, your wood work is very impressive, hope i can copy it one day!d
Scored an old BRASS .20 cal Sheridan barrel, modified it's diameter wrapping with carbon fiber fitting onto the M-rod :-*
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u532/scott_schneider1/DSCF0718_zpsbb086817.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u532/scott_schneider1/DSCF0728_zps3a1c1bcf.jpg)
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That is cool Ark. Did you make that stock/forearm and are gonna keep it open sights only?
nice work with the outdoorsman stock ark :-*
i bought my sheridan with the intention of fitting the barrel to my 2250 but it was far too good to canibalize nice work motorhead, the m rod looks real nice 8)
ped
Quote from: Motorhead on April 07, 2013, 08:23:22 AM
Scored an old BRASS .20 cal Sheridan barrel, modified it's diameter wrapping with carbon fiber fitting onto the M-rod :-*
Sweet :-*
It takes some danglies to butcher a nice .20 barrel, but sometimes you gotta do it.
Quote from: droid on April 07, 2013, 09:54:32 AM
Sweet :-*
It takes some danglies to butcher a nice .20 barrel, but sometimes you gotta do it.
I just love learning new slang from across the pond (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97301041/Misc/EyePatchSmileIcon.gif)
Motorhead, I'd like to hear more about this project of yours and wrapping the carbon fiber. Do you have pics of the process?
Stripped down my Winchester M11 BB pistol (1911 clone) and put in a lighter valve spring and did a little trigger work. I'll take out in the back yard and give it a run later.
Quote from: Tater on April 07, 2013, 08:51:07 AM
That is cool Ark. Did you make that stock/forearm and are gonna keep it open sights only?
No, I did not make it. It was made by Tree Rat Hunter whom I do not think is doing business anymore. I got it in a package deal from Tinker. Best deal I ever made so far. It needed to be fit. A lot of craving to fit on the frame and tube. Now all that is left to do is finish sand, straighten up some edges and stain and varnish.
I may end up putting it on the classifieds when completed. I have another "want" right now :D
Rich
:-[ I have a SKS scattered all over my wookbench now . I have never seen anything this dirty and still shoot as fast as you pull the trigger. Traded for it Sat. Got to get off there and get back to REAL work!! (airguns) LOL ;D ;D ;D
reblued the breech and polished the bolt handle (http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq93/JUSTJOHNY/airgun%20stuff/004-8_zps8a35a079.jpg)
Looks nice eric :-* was that cold bluing?
I am in the process of making a pair of grips for my 1377.
Found some scrap pine 1x6 and just traced the plastic grips and roughed it with a jigsaw and then a router and straight bit for the frame inlet and contour exterior with Dremel sanding bit.
The pic is just after routing so this is a couple steps from the final deal.
Also I polished up and lubed the sear and compressed the spring a bit.
For this I got a 3" wood screw and a washer and just screwed it down tight for about 20 seconds and it required only a slight stretch to get an excellent trigger pull.
Now I am just waiting on a rear sight to get this baby on the road.
Quote from: willc on April 08, 2013, 03:53:13 AM
I am in the process of making a pair of grips for my 1377.
Found some scrap pine 1x6 and just traced the plastic grips and roughed it with a jigsaw and then a router and straight bit for the frame inlet and contour exterior with Dremel sanding bit.
Making grips is not easy. You have a better start on yours than the ones I made once before. Look froward to seeing pictures of the final product.
Quote from: WyoMan on April 08, 2013, 02:35:32 AM
Looks nice eric :-* was that cold bluing?
thanks Wyo and it was --- blue wonder .i have had pretty good results with it so far
Quote from: eric on April 08, 2013, 11:44:01 AM
thanks Wyo and it was --- blue wonder .i have had pretty good results with it so far
Looking good Eric ... :-*
Quote from: eric on April 08, 2013, 11:44:01 AM
thanks Wyo and it was --- blue wonder .i have had pretty good results with it so far
I've also had pretty good luck using Blue Wonder. The trick I've found with this kind of blue is to make sure the parts are clean, clean, clean and then warm the part a little before applying the blueing.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on April 08, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I've also had pretty good luck using Blue Wonder. The trick I've found with this kind of blue is to make sure the parts are clean, clean, clean and then warm the part a little before applying the blueing.
Carl
i would agree on the parts being very clean ---- this barrel i did with out much work with heating and such and it came out fine except for a small blemish ---- i did it over again and got the same results but this time no funny little blemish mark ,i did use a torch to warm it up this time though ???
Quote from: KevinP on April 08, 2013, 12:04:08 PM
Looking good Eric ... :-*
thanks --- it almost finshed :)
Got bored Sunday and made a brass safety for my 2400KT. Used a brass screw, electric drill, files and my trusty Dremel tool. Surprisingly it works great. A bit longer than the OEM plastic one. Cuts the grooves for the safety ball a bit deeper. The plastic safety had a problem going on safe if you just barely touched it. With the deeper grooves it locks in to place without accidentally going into safe.
That is some nice looking work.
Fine work on the safety sir :-*
I just did some work...well it was a workout by my standards. I have returned from a walk to and from the post office with 7 packages in my backpack :D
Great workout Michael, good for you :-*
come on chongman ......I have to know what goodies were in the packages :D
For using simple hand tools you did a very good job on your brass safety.
Carl
Excellent Safety!!
I have a 2300kt With LW barrel on order from Crosman. I made a few brass goodies for it this last weekend. I made them all except the tri-wing cap which is from Ray (Mr.007). Its been almost 2 week now since I ordered it from Crosman. So far I haven't heard anything yet. I will let you all know when I recieve it and do a write up on it.
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Quote from: earlp8 on April 10, 2013, 12:24:10 AM
come on chongman ......I have to know what goodies were in the packages :D
;D I'm sure guys will speak up when they get their goodies.
gdm620- can you tell me how you went about making the bolt handle...what parts of it to cut first? I've been trying to do that for awhile without much luck.
Pretty spanky looking stuff Gary. 8)
You should do a little how to on polishing...you're kinda good at it IMO. :-*
Al
Quote from: chongman on April 10, 2013, 02:03:27 AM
;D I'm sure guys will speak up when they get their goodies.
gdm620- can you tell me how you went about making the bolt handle...what parts of it to cut first? I've been trying to do that for awhile without much luck.
First I turn down the shaft of the handle. Then I tread the end. I have the threaded end on a live center. Not much room for one but it needs to be there for enough support. Then I turn so my cutter is at a slight angle and slowly move the carrage into the brass to cut a angle in like the back of a pellet. Then I hog out some in the middle between the head and skirt and then set my compound at a angle and use that to get the taper for the outside of the skirt. I just guess on the angle. then I set my cutter at a angle and kiss the back of the head to get that angle. Then I mooth up that much of it and then cut it off and then mount the stem in the jaw and face off the front of the head. I use a file a lot to get things the way I want it. It is easy in brass. Stainless it would be harder to do.
Quote from: Gippeto on April 10, 2013, 02:29:16 AM
Pretty spanky looking stuff Gary. 8)
You should do a little how to on polishing...you're kinda good at it IMO. :-*
Al
Thanks Al but airgun100 and Crosshairs are the master polishers. All I can say about it is sand sand and sand some more. Then when you think you got it sand some more. Work down from 400 grit to 1500 grit in stages. Then go to the buffing wheel and buff it till it looks good. That how I do it. Not 100% perfect but good enough for me because I will use these parts and don't spend a lot of time getting them perfect so they can get scratched up from use.
Terrific projects fellas. Love the brass bling, Gary. AS, that is a fine safety made the same way I do it - with crude stone tools and a bunch of finger crossing.
Thanks for explaining how you do it Gary. I'll give it a try next chance. :-*
Nice brass work guys. :-*
CNCed 1377 pivot plug in stainless..Autocad drawing provided by our very own gent Mr. JMJinNC ( thank you sir :-* )...I will get this today the lady at the machine shop sent me pics I dunno why she did not show me pics of the pivot's face when the body itself as well as the milling works look fine to me ???..
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is this supposed to be in the whats in the truck thread or did you make them?
Well sir I had her made so I guess she belongs here..Here is the face well she is pretty enough w/ no dings :-*
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..the plasma cut up close it does not look bad at all I actually like the finish it's akin to a wrinkled aluminum foil in person..
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..total cost $31 and no I am not selling them so as not to offend Mr. BlueFork..She is just for my own use :)
Quote from: gdm620 on April 10, 2013, 01:16:56 AM
I have a 2300kt With LW barrel on order from Crosman. I made a few brass goodies for it this last weekend. I made them all except the tri-wing cap which is from Ray (Mr.007). Its been almost 2 week now since I ordered it from Crosman. So far I haven't heard anything yet. I will let you all know when I recieve it and do a write up on it.
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You will love :-\ that 2300KT with the LW barrel... most accurate pistol I own, 1 hole or 1-1/2 hole in the 10 ring at 10 meters all day long, mine has the BSA Edge 2x pistol scope on it (cheating :D ) LW Barrel upgrade is worth every penny :-*
Quote from: crossliner on April 10, 2013, 01:08:13 PM
Well sir I had her made so I guess she belongs here..Here is the face well she is pretty enough w/ no dings :-*
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..the plasma cut up close it does not look bad at all I actually like the finish it's akin to a wrinkled aluminum foil in person..
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..total cost $31 and no I am not selling them so as not to offend Mr. BlueFork..She is just for my own use :)
Nice!!!!
Thank you Mr. BE :-*..I think I am going to have her bead blasted tomorrow it's a cheap enough process..
Mr. GDM them brass of yours are befitting a general 8)
That is a really nice safety AS13. :-*
Gdm620 those are some really nice parts you made, great job on the polishing. :-*
Crossliner nice pivot plug came out really well. :-*
Thank you :)
:-* Nice lookin BLING guys :-* I didn't get anything done today , spent all most all day in Dr.'s office. Poke me here poke there feel like a pin cuschen. Just a check-up :)
Thanks for the nice comments Guys. There is a lot of talented people on here that makes some really nice stuff. Most of the things I make are simple in design.
Here is the she is post intensive polish by my plater bud..I told him to bead blast it but he said I should decide after seeing this now I am having 2nd thoughts lol! It did not cost me a single cent so all is good. Best regards.
Not today but the last thing I did :D I almost ruined this stock because of a stripped grip screw. The bedliner covered up the scratches pretty good after sanding :) I always wanted to do this anyway, it feels great now.
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Looks great as always, Mr. BE :-*..Talking of 1399 grip screws, my 1377 has a pair of oversize polished to perfection (lol!) ss domehead allen screws..It's a perfect fit as you can see, tight w/ no gaps whatsoever..I had the grip frame retapped though. Best regards.
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Quote from: crossliner on April 13, 2013, 04:29:29 PM
Looks great as always, Mr. BE :-*..Talking of 1399 grip screws, my 1377 has a pair of oversize polished to perfection (lol!) ss domehead allen screws..It's a perfect fit as you can see, tight w/ no gaps whatsoever..I had the grip frame retapped though. Best regards.
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Wow CL! I really like that! I don't know how you do it but you always find a way to make those guns even better. Amazing attention to detail Sir :-*
Well Mr. BE you taught me that ;) Best regards.
Finished up the polished 2240 last night :-*
Will be posting up a few photos in the gallery later.
Rich
Quote from: arkmaker on April 14, 2013, 03:55:40 PM
Finished up the polished 2240 last night :-*
Will be posting up a few photos in the gallery later.
Rich
Cool, I'll be lookin' for the pics.
Another perfecto paint job Ern :-*
Quote from: BigErn on April 13, 2013, 03:55:21 PM
Not today but the last thing I did :D I almost ruined this stock because of a stripped grip screw. The bedliner covered up the scratches pretty good after sanding :) I always wanted to do this anyway, it feels great now.
SprayBoy is back with a vengeance. The stock looks very good!
Got around to putting a steel breech on my 1322.
When I did my 1377 that kit had the shorter rear screw, this one did not.
I had to take a bit off with the Dremel.
So once I get that on I attach the rear sight that I ordered from Archer and the gun shoots high and I am maxed all the way down.
This calls for a 1/16 hole down the middle of the plastic blade and a cut off of an old bit for a pin sight.
Now the gun is shooting very nice.
Right now I just plan on replacing the sear spring and finishing up some wood grips and I may leave well enough alone for a while.
Quickster did some REALLY nice work to my 1325 and 2540 the other day. 'Just wish he would post pics along with a short report ;D :D ;)
Quote from: Noah on April 15, 2013, 09:20:20 AM
Quickster did some REALLY nice work to my 1325 and 2540 the other day. 'Just wish he would post pics along with a short report ;D :D ;)
NAG! NAG! NAG! Geesh, what is wrong with this younger generation... :P
Okay here is a picture I snapped the other day after I changed out his flat-top piston which had some trashed o-rings but was still shooting okay. I also installed a new barrel band he had made because his .25 caliber barrel is 1/2" OD instead of 7/16" like Crosman barrels. And while I was messing with the internals I replaced his pivot pin with a Mellon kit.
His .25 caliber is pretty slick now and hits really, really hard on 10 pumps.
Carl
More later on his 2540 which is an awesome hitting gun.
Nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! send it up here and I will brake it in for Noah :-*
Here is how Noah gets his bling on. :P
Added the brass barrel band and then donated, sort of, okay, I charged him triple, a mr007s brass tri-wing gas cap. It is now starting to take shape and not sure what our next step is.
Open to suggestions.
Carl
pretty nice, maybe a brass brake?
Lookin good !!! :-*
Quote from: quickster47 on April 15, 2013, 11:19:40 PM
Here is how Noah gets his bling on. :P
Added the brass barrel band and then donated, sort of, okay, I charged him triple, a mr007s brass tri-wing gas cap. It is now starting to take shape and not sure what our next step is.
Open to suggestions.
Carl
Mahalo nui loa (thanks a bunch!) for all of your time, efforts and expertise, Carl.
The "next" step is possibly making some open sights for the 2540? ??? 'Anybody want to chime in?
It might want to take a swim in the creek lol! Seriously that is a dashing piece a brass tip is all it lacks :-* Best regards.
Quote from: Noah on April 16, 2013, 12:23:56 AM
The "next" step is possibly making some open sights for the 2540? ??? 'Anybody want to chime in?
I'll see what I can conjure up in the lab for you my friend.
Carl
I just painted a 2240 with this hammer paint it looks pretty cool but i don't think it will show up in pictures very well.
Mike
Being somewhat inspired with the sight that burnt09 made last month I thought I would give it a try.
This can replace the plastic piece that comes on the 22XX guns or the 13XX guns. Not sure where it will go right now but am leaning toward installing it on my 2240 test bed pistol.
It came out okay but like most parts I make I am already planning on a version 2 to clean up a few things and improve my workmanship.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on April 15, 2013, 01:48:28 PM
NAG! NAG! NAG! Geesh, what is wrong with this younger generation... :P
Okay here is a picture I snapped the other day after I changed out his flat-top piston which had some trashed o-rings but was still shooting okay. I also installed a new barrel band he had made because his .25 caliber barrel is 1/2" OD instead of 7/16" like Crosman barrels. And while I was messing with the internals I replaced his pivot pin with a Mellon kit.
His .25 caliber is pretty slick now and hits really, really hard on 10 pumps.
Carl
More later on his 2540 which is an awesome hitting gun.
wow
he finally got a barrel band !!! it was a long time coming
keep up the good work
Carl ... cool job on the sight !!! :-*
+1, nice Carl :-*
Thats very nice, clean, clever mr Quick :-* looks like a factory part
nice work carl
ped
That looks very cool Carl. How is the windage adjusted?
That is a nice sight you made Carl :-* :-* :-*
The hole for the 8-32 hold down screw is oversized and gives me enough lateral movement to adjust for windage. Don't need too much and it provides just enough.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on April 16, 2013, 08:17:24 PM
The hole for the 8-32 hold down screw is oversized and gives me enough lateral movement to adjust for windage. Don't need too much and it provides just enough.
Carl
You can have more windage adjustment if you turn the sight over and use the peep side. I had to do this on my AIR17 and it worked perfectly :-*
Quote from: BigErn on April 16, 2013, 08:46:43 PM
You can have more windage adjustment if you turn the sight over and use the peep side. I had to do this on my AIR17 and it worked perfectly :-*
BigErn that is a great suggestion. :-* Hadn't thought about that.
Carl
Awesome little rear sight, Carl.
Quote from: quickster47 on April 16, 2013, 06:00:32 PM
Being somewhat inspired with the sight that burnt09 made last month I thought I would give it a try.
This can replace the plastic piece that comes on the 22XX guns or the 13XX guns. Not sure where it will go right now but am leaning toward installing it on my 2240 test bed pistol.
It came out okay but like most parts I make I am already planning on a version 2 to clean up a few things and improve my workmanship.
Carl
Nice work! (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Misc/2ThumbsUp1eye.gif)
Nice job on the sight Carl :-*
Nce site there Carl
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Nice transformation eric. Excellent job.
Carl
thats come up well the stock looks real nice
ped
Quote from: eric on April 16, 2013, 10:54:17 PM
this to this
Nice job on the stock. You would not know the grain was so nice under the original finish.
Why did you decide to cut the barrel?
Nicely done Eric :-* , I have done similar to several guns... i.e. strip and remove that god-awful factory stain and just use a light, clear-ish stain or even Old English followed by mutliple waxings. Even my humble little Daisy 22SG pumper looks classic now after a stain facelift.
Those opaque type finishes used by the OEMs are crap-ola! :D
Last night I perfromed the first full, functional assembly of my Gauntlet build. :-*
And now have a list of things a mile long to fix or tweak. ???
Quote from: quickster47 on April 16, 2013, 11:03:50 PM
Nice transformation eric. Excellent job.
Carl
thanks carl ---- this was/has been a long time coming project.
Quote from: ped on April 16, 2013, 11:19:58 PM
thats come up well the stock looks real nice
ped
thanks ped
Quote from: breakfastchef on April 16, 2013, 11:22:28 PM
Nice job on the stock. You would not know the grain was so nice under the original finish.
Why did you decide to cut the barrel?
thanks larry. the barrel was badly pitted towards the muzzle and it was kind of an experiment as well ---- i have another barrel for it from my other 160 plus i wanted a little carbine :)
Quote from: BDS on April 16, 2013, 11:26:44 PM
Nicely done Eric :-* , I have done similar to several guns... i.e. strip and remove that god-awful factory stain and just use a light, clear-ish stain or even Old English followed by mutliple waxings. Even my humble little Daisy 22SG pumper looks classic now after a stain facelift.
Those opaque type finishes used by the OEMs are crap-ola! :D
thanks brian .these old factory stains are god awful fer shur :-*
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OMG!!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
thanks bigern :)
Eric if I knew how to cut and crown barrels like you all my guns would look like that! I just love short barrel rifles and you have some of the very best I've seen :-* :-*
Quote from: BigErn on April 17, 2013, 01:09:08 AM
Eric if I knew how to cut and crown barrels like you all my guns would look like that! I just love short barrel rifles and you have some of the very best I've seen :-* :-*
i like the carbine look as well --- i have another 160 that i replaced the oem barrel with a lw barrel and it is a tad longer ,so i figured a shorter, lighter 160 was needed :)
That did turn out really nice Eric great work. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: targettgii on April 17, 2013, 02:21:06 AM
That did turn out really nice Eric great work. :-* :-* :-*
thanks tom --- there will more about this in another thread in the near future
I agree very nice Eric.....I also like the carbine look it has nice lines :-*
How did you decide on the length ??? ....good symmetry!
nice work on the sight, Carl. Eric that is one sweet looking carbine she turned out well.
Quote from: WyoMan on April 17, 2013, 02:32:49 AM
I agree very nice Eric.....I also like the carbine look it has nice lines :-*
How did you decide on the length ??? ....good symmetry!
thanks wyo --- i cut the barrel down past where the pitting was --- it was pretty bad and thought wth this looks good to me ??? :) it was 22" and now about 15 1/4" give or take
. Quote from: bgmcgee on April 17, 2013, 02:54:02 AM
Eric that is one sweet looking carbine she turned out well.
thanks :)
still no air gun work but I did work on my rc car
after hitting a wall going 25-30mph the right rear wheel, suspension bracket, control arms, shock, sway bar linkage
all shattered on impact
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figured since I have to fix it might as well add some aluminum parts to it.
here it is with plastic parts followed by what it looks like with aluminum parts.
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now with aluminum
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this is just like working on a real car but it costs more :o ;D
Quote from: KevinP on April 16, 2013, 06:18:28 PM
Carl ... cool job on the sight !!! :-*
WOW! - How did I miss this post? Great stuff, Carl!
Oil filled coil overs??
got a couple things done today
first I cleaned up my $5 chrony lighting.it was put together with electrical tape when that became gooey, then covered with duct tape or packing tape. well that got messy so, I got some heat shrink and cleaned up my connections.
another thing I did was covered an old barrel with heat shrink. I was told that covering barrels with heat shrink the barrel can rust underneath the wrap. what I did was treated the barrel with eezox before putting the wrap on. now its a test of time. will report the results in about 28 days
Hey mr 1377x.....you dont need the lighting for mr Chrony.....
just cover the entire top by putting white paper over it taped to the the diffusers
then use a 60 to 100w light cenrterd over the top about 12" above....if you have the F-1 that is...
Biohazardman on the green gave that tip :-*\
I've been using EEZOx too and it seems to work I put it on a cotton cloth and then rub on the metal....is that what you do ???
I finished modding my Harbor Freight 7x 10 lathe into a 7x 14 now the mods for my guns will be made by me already cut off a breech to 4" for a polished 2240 now working on a new brass 12" CO2 tube for another 2240 this is going to be a lot more fun making my own parts :-*
Jim
That sounds cool Jim :-* :-* :-*
Yes it does Tom buying parts and putting them on a gun is one thing but to make them yourself then see how it turns out will be a real rush :-* :-* :-* :-*
Jim
So very true and you can say, yeah I made that LOL :-* :-* :-*
Exactly so. :)
Look forward to seeing what you crank out Jim. Always good to be making chips. :-*
Al
Quote from: WyoMan on April 18, 2013, 05:31:48 AM
Hey mr 1377x.....you dont need the lighting for mr Chrony.....
just cover the entire top by putting white paper over it taped to the the diffusers
then use a 60 to 100w light cenrterd over the top about 12" above....if you have the F-1 that is...
Biohazardman on the green gave that tip :-*\
I've been using EEZOx too and it seems to work I put it on a cotton cloth and then rub on the metal....is that what you do ???
I have been using this set up for 3-4 years now with zero errors and it reads the exact same as the old top of the line Oehler Chronographs down to the point,thanks for the info but my set up has been proven and i'll stick with it ;). before it had duct tape electrical tape and clear tape on it.looking at this old pic I have no idea when the black cord was added ???. every gun I test at home I take to the air gun shop for confirmation and I have yet to have a different number than his Oehler or his Shooting Chrony f-1 (same one I use),with his f-1 the point will be off by .2-.4 but the whole numbers are the same, I have mine hooked up with a chronoconnect ,the numbers are graphed and stored on my computer the only thing I have to do is name the string for storage
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now Eezox is the best rust inhibitor I have tried to date. it works so well I have no reason to try anything else
no matter how damp the area Eezox will prevent rust. my guns would rust almost instantly when in the basement uncovered. check them an hour later a thin film of rust would be present. after one treatment of Eezox, 9 months later the gun still where I left it no rust.
now I have a test for it that hasn't been done that I know of. after I was told that if I cover my barrel with heat shrink it might rust as others who have done it had their barrels rust I thought it would be a good test for the Eezox now it will be 27 days before I take the shrink wrap off and see if holds its ground. I put the barrel in the bathroom under the sink it gets nice and damp there
Just installed 1701P and a hammer that Carl had to clean up and finish. Haven't touch an adjustment and the feel is indescribable. Its not fair to compare the stock 2240 trigger group to the 1701P. This gun needs a breech from Anthony real bad. So far all I have done is put the 12.5 inch barrel from my 2289g and the new trigger group. Got a Millet RD ready to go. Better start reading about the adjustments.
Just finished adding a LW barrel to my 2250B tube. Will post some pics and accuracy results in the Gallery later today. Time for physical therapy now. Have to let the medieval torturers earn their pay ;D
Quote from: arkmaker on April 19, 2013, 03:29:50 PM
Time for physical therapy now. Have to let the medieval torturers earn their pay ;D
Always called them physical terrorists cause they sure made you hurt when you did what they said and if you didn't, well Lord help you.
Carl
After my knee replacement I had a physical therapist come to the house. She would "help" me bend my knee by putting all her weight on it. :o That's the only time a 110 pound girl ever brought tears to my eyes.......er....without breaking my heart that is. ;D ;D
Quote from: quickster47 on April 19, 2013, 05:21:52 PM
Always called them physical terrorists cause they sure made you hurt when you did what they said and if you didn't, well Lord help you.
Carl
thats the truth I still go 4x a week hopefully soon it drop down to 2x a week then none
Played w/ my two Crosmans today..I left out the CROSMAN TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED KT w/ a Lothar barrel coz I ran out of JSBs and it does not like Hammer/Eagleheads..Sorry gents there is something wrong w/ my keyboard it can't type numbers ???
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Scope four to sixteen x forty UTG AO set to tenX mag..
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Distance to the tree is thirty two meters...
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Eaglehead domehead pellets eight point eight grains Philippine made and a tight fit compared to imported pellets..
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I was trying to hit the screw and the masking tape..It's a very accurate gun this unmod TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED KT w/ a twenty four inch barrel..
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Next one is the THIRTEEN SEVEN SEVEN unmod except for the floating barrel...Pellet is HAMMERHEAD wads from the same maker...
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There is one flyer the one on the left right below the black tape target but it was my mistake...Three pumps and distance is fourteen meters eight shots..
I am going to imitate Mr. BreakFC's red dot peephole washer thing but I will have a delrin lathed..It really helps a lot if your line of sight is centered..Best regards..
Oh I forgot those are five shot groups for the TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED KT btw and benchrested too..
You know gents the TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED KT w/ the twenty four inch barrel is supposed to be my seventeen year old son's I actually named it after him but he is more interested in bowling and tennis..He is a very decent shooter though his technique is unorthodox and clumsy if you observe him and yet he keeps on hitting the targets. Best regards.
Great looking two-some. Same as your other works. :)
I have a 24" barrel on my 'Coon Getter' gun and didn't realize how long it looked till I saw your pictures. :-*
Carl
Sweet! I sure wish I had the room for longer distance shooting! Soon, I hope I will.
I had the original Transformer set up with a 24" barrel for a short time. As someone had pointed out to me then, "If you miss, don't worry, just reach out a little and knock them on the head with the end of the barrel!" ;D
Thank you gents..Mr. Q the items are now in TN I checked it :)
These are very accurate guns if you do your thing yes sir. Actually I think I would have done better ??? if my front cushion was a sandbag the foam pillow is not the best for this kind of thing obviously lol!..One of my friends is making me 2 sand-filled bags right now :).. You know I am going to use the 2400kt against my buds' PCPs when they go field target come June and no I am not going to feel undergunned. Gonna show them what Crosmans are all about :-*.It's still GUNBAN 2013 in the Phils. for the May elections ( a circus imho lol! ) even airsoft guns are prohibited..Best regards.
Crossliner, are you using Crosman barrels or LW barrels on your guns? If Crosman barrels, you won the lottery. Very accurate shooting!
Quotered dot peephole washer
May I ask what this refers please? I couldn't find anything with search. Thanks.
nice shooters and good shooting senor
ped
Thats some nice shooting crossliner :-* very nice guns too.....hope you get your keyboard fixed maybe it needs some work on the valve ??? :D
Quote from: twigboy on April 28, 2013, 05:25:46 PM
May I ask what this refers please? I couldn't find anything with search. Thanks.
I was going to post the same thing about the red dot peeper washer.
Quote from: Tater on April 28, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
I was going to post the same thing about the red dot peeper washer.
I think it was breakfastchef or perhaps someone else who posted it originally. But what happens is that you take a large fender washer or something like that and attach it to the red dot so that when you pick up the gun and look through the sight your field of vision is limited by the hole in the washer and you supposedly can more quickly find the red dot and zero in on your target.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on April 28, 2013, 07:13:59 PM
I think it was breakfastchef or perhaps someone else who posted it originally. But what happens is that you take a large fender washer or something like that and attach it to the red dot so that when you pick up the gun and look through the sight your field of vision is limited by the hole in the washer and you supposedly can more quickly find the red dot and zero in on your target.
Carl
You don't just stick a washer on the lens do you?
Quote from: Tater on April 28, 2013, 08:47:12 PM
You don't just stick a washer on the lens do you?
My understanding was that it had to be on the side you look through because you are using it as sort of a peep hole as it relates to reduced field of vision.
Here is the original thread by breakfastchef, AKA Larry.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10270.msg122170.html#msg122170 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10270.msg122170.html#msg122170)
Carl
I don't really understand what your tiring to achieve here. ???
I have been shooting red dots and reflex sites for about thirty years now. Starting with the very first Aimpoint scopes. I have shot them in all kinds of firearms and in competition on both center fires and rim fires for IPSC, action pistol, combat shotgun and bullseye pistol.
I shot the ''beer can'' sized one for one season on a 45 and plates. I did not like the huge field of view so I removed and sold it off. For me, the 30MM and 1'' scopes are just fine. The big scopes work well for fast site acquisition. But are no less or more accurate than any other. As long as its of quality manufacturer and its with out much parallax. Its natural for you to center the dot in the scope, But you should be focused on the target, not to dot. I have found that magnification is actually a detriment to accuracy with a dot. Been there done that. :o :o
I am thinking what your not liking is parallax. The dot is on target but impacts are not unless the dot is well centered in the scope. You can test yours by securing it to a stable surface looking thru the scope, put the dot on a ''target' and taking your hands off it. Now look thru the scope and move you head around and you will see the dot come off the ''target''! Thats parallax.
IMHO, if you choose a good name brand dot and I think you will see things differently. :-* :-* ;)
CW
Thank you gents :)
At Mr. Wyoman yes sir that I might do lol ;D
At Mr. BFC yes they are Crosman barrels..I dunno but I have tried RWS, JSB, Crosman Premiers and H and N courtesy of my buddies on them and they do not group this well ???...I only have one Crosman that has a Lothar barrel and yes it likes JSBs very much but since my own JSBs are still in transit and I have no more she was an absentee yesterday..Pic below..
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The washer thing on the peep lens a brew by Mr. BFC is a good addition imho..It helps one center the red dot..I tried shooting peering in an oblique manner and the groupings were not good..
At Mr. CWlongshot yes duly noted..I have a Burris FastFire ll for my Lothar barreled Crosman TWENTY FOUR HUNDRED KT but I have not mounted it yet due to the lack of an dovetail to weaver adapter..I think one of the boxes from the US containing some goodies is here already but I had it consigned to my cuz and he is out of town at the moment..Wait I must again what a big hassle really >:( Best regards.
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:D :-*
Quote from: Cwlongshot on April 28, 2013, 11:45:46 PM
I am thinking what your not liking is parallax.
The purpose of the washer was primarily to combat parallax. It is easier to center a dot in a smaller field of view.
Today I did this..Works well Mr. BFC I like it :-*
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10270.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10270.0.html)
Quote from: breakfastchef on April 29, 2013, 02:51:30 PM
The purpose of the washer was primarily to combat parallax. It is easier to center a dot in a smaller field of view.
I was looking at my 1377 with the red dot last night and the lens covers were on. I'm thinking I might cut off the stretchy pieces that hold but end caps on and then drilling a hole in the center off the rubber cap. It already would fit perfectly, just not sure I want to destroy the lens covers.
Well, it was last night but I took the stock barrel off the 2240 and traded it for the 12" barrel off my 2289, was after dark though so couldn't sight it in... I figured this should get me to finally make the parts order I've been wanting to make to get a 18" barrel for the 2289, along with a bunch of other little stuff...
This swap did make the 2240 quieter like I hoped it would
I just fixed my fathers Medalist II 177.
He was shooting it with renewed vigor after speaking with me last week. ;) He was at my door when I got home with the pistol in hand!! LOL
We shot it a couple times and the trigger was 10#+! I did not take any pics.
First I totally disassembled the gun. I cleaned everything and installed new O rings on the valve and a cup on the piston and with light pelloil reassembled that. I polished the appropriate parts on the trigger and hammer, with a bad of grease re assembled and installed the grip frame.
The barrel was REAL bad! I cleaned it and MUD came out!!! The muzzle had NO crown or attempt at one!! This gun is probable 30 years old and the ''crown'' was still jagged!! It was right pretty after about five minutes with coarse and fine grinding compound!!
The bolt was rough so I polished that up, Installed a new O ring on the probe..MAN THAT THING IS HUGE!!! It is long and completely pushes the pellet past the port, but it also blocks most of the port!! Not allot I did or could do there...
I re assembled the breech and then I found a problem... The port was not sealing properly. Actually I am surprised it could push a pellet out the barrel!! I installed a O ring at the barrel end and a new seal at the valve. Then aligned everything up with my third hand held that piece of steel under the bolt and with a fourth tightened the tiny screw.... :o But I got it!! Went and shot it and WOW it has power again and pops is happy!! He took a tin of my Monsters as he forgot his in New York... and took off for my sisters where he is stay for a few days...
He REALLY liked my trigger, The best I got with his was a clean but heavy 6#. Mine is 3 1/4#. ;)
CW
Quote from: Tater on April 30, 2013, 09:32:34 PM
I was looking at my 1377 with the red dot last night and the lens covers were on. I'm thinking I might cut off the stretchy pieces that hold but end caps on and then drilling a hole in the center off the rubber cap. It already would fit perfectly, just not sure I want to destroy the lens covers.
Read this thread Mr. T :)
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i finally got a rifled barrel installed on my 760.
i used a 2100 barrel #766C101. got a barrel support from the recruit #66A35 & drilled it out for a press fit for barrel. i used some poly tubing wrapped around the barrel to fit the front barrel support. total cost for crosman parts $8.57 + shipping.
so far i find that it's more consistent shooting with less fliers. after getting a scope zeroed, i'm hitting 1/2" groups at 10 yds. after more practice & fine tuning on the scope, i hope to get it down to 1/4".
Darn it all Crossliner. I thought I finally had an original idea here. ;D
I did miss that thread though, I only saw the one where washers were used.
Quote from: Tater on May 01, 2013, 06:09:20 AM
Darn it all Crossliner. I thought I finally had an original idea here. ;D
I did miss that thread though, I only saw the one where washers were used.
This 1 Mr. T it's an updated version :-*
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10270.msg139906.html#msg139906 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10270.msg139906.html#msg139906)
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Smaller brake rubber cup and o-ring on the left if you want to install it reversed..
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I stole the idea from Mr. Larry/BFC I hope he does not sue me for Pulling a Steve :-X :D
I threw this together last evening (all of 15 minutes after cutting the bone stock 2240 out of the blister packaging). One thing left to do, but will save that for later.
Davio that is a super 'kool' looking 2240. But you know you still need another one, and that one must be left completely stock so you can compete in our 2240 Box Stock shooting competitions.
Carl
Mister Crossliner, I like your innovative thought process and what I really like is the idea of that small o-ring on the bolt handle to keep it from marring the plastic or wood grips. :-*
Carl
Great look to that 2240, Davio. Bling on a budget with some spot polishing. You know what looks pretty cool? Polishing the top flat on the breech. That wold complete the look.
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 01, 2013, 01:35:37 PM
You know what looks pretty cool? Polishing the top flat on the breech. That wold complete the look.
Now there is an idea I don't think I've seen implemented before. Have done a gun like that Larry?
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on May 01, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Mister Crossliner, I like your innovative thought process and what I really like is the idea of that small o-ring on the bolt handle to keep it from marring the plastic or wood grips. :-*
Carl
Thank you sir :-*
I recently returned my 2300KT to stock configuration. At the same time I was fiddling with 'bling on a budget' concepts. I did polish the flat of the breech on the pistol and like the look.
Quote from: quickster47 on May 01, 2013, 01:37:31 PM
Now there is an idea I don't think I've seen implemented before. Have done a gun like that Larry?
Carl
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 01, 2013, 02:21:56 PM
I recently returned my 2300KT to stock configuration. At the same time I was fiddling with 'bling on a budget' concepts. I did polish the flat of the breech on the pistol and like the look.
I like the handle! I don't like most of them. I saw one somewhere where the maker machined one to look like a pellet!! I liked that one too!! Inventive ideas not screen all the time. That's what I like to see! What could be more natural for a Airgun that a CO2 or pellet looking bolt knob!!! ;)
Good lob!
CW
Something like this? Crosshairs made this one for me.
Quote from: Cwlongshot on May 01, 2013, 02:30:41 PM
I like the handle! I don't like most of them. I saw one somewhere where the maker machined one to look like a pellet!! I liked that one too!! Inventive ideas not screen all the time. That's what I like to see! What could be more natural for a Airgun that a CO2 or pellet looking bolt knob!!! ;)
Good lob!
CW
Looks great Larry!!
I would buy that!!
CW
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 01, 2013, 02:21:56 PM
I recently returned my 2300KT to stock configuration. At the same time I was fiddling with 'bling on a budget' concepts. I did polish the flat of the breech on the pistol and like the look.
I really like this idea Larry :-\ :-*
Someone also made tube cap that looks like a Crosman Destroyer pellet. It was totally badass. I missed it when it went up for sale here.
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 01, 2013, 01:35:37 PM
Great look to that 2240, Davio. Bling on a budget with some spot polishing. You know what looks pretty cool? Polishing the top flat on the breech. That wold complete the look.
Excellent idea. :) And maybe the lower dovetail rail, too (that I have not attached yet).
I believe I might have to swap the blued steel breech for one of the aluminum ones since they seem to want to let go of their finish so easily. :-X
Still playing with brakes. How do you like this one? Still raw (but polished) aluminum yet...
Quote from: Davio on May 04, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Still playing with brakes. How do you like this one? Still raw (but polished) aluminum yet...
I like it :-*
Staggered holes are the plus
Rich
Quote from: arkmaker on May 04, 2013, 04:22:10 PM
I like it :-*
Staggered holes are the plus
Rich
X2!
IMO, the staggered holes look way better than the usual uniform, "straight-line" (vertical and horizontal) profile.
Nice work, Davio! I rather like the "raw" aluminum look... :-*
Quote from: Davio on May 04, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Still playing with brakes. How do you like this one? Still raw (but polished) aluminum yet...
Nicely done! Is the brake effective or just decorative?
From a purely design aesthetic, the touches of polished pieces are classy, but the brake tends to be a little overwhelming on the front end. It might be interesting to see some black accents on it (i.e. front 1/4" in black, last 1/2" in black, countersink the holes by 1/8" and put in delrin inserts, etc.). Not being picky, just thinking of stuff I would try if I had the tools and talent.
I am revamping several guns this month.
The Beeman R7 stock got a custom stippling job.
The Crosman 2300KT was returned to a more stock configuration. This peppy little sucker (550 fps in .177) is going to get revved up with a Pro-Top.
The PC77 Carbine is getting a BNM multishot breech and 21" shroud.
nice chef :-* Do you have the pro-top already? Reason I ask I tried to get one a couple of weeks ago and no more were available then but that could be just my case.
I purchased mine several months ago. Works as advertised.
Quote from: bgmcgee on May 04, 2013, 06:09:36 PM
nice chef :-* Do you have the pro-top already? Reason I ask I tried to get one a couple of weeks ago and no more were available then but that could be just my case.
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 04, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
Nicely done! Is the brake effective or just decorative?
From a purely design aesthetic, the touches of polished pieces are classy, but the brake tends to be a little overwhelming on the front end. It might be interesting to see some black accents on it (i.e. front 1/4" in black, last 1/2" in black, countersink the holes by 1/8" and put in delrin inserts, etc.). Not being picky, just thinking of stuff I would try if I had the tools and talent.
Not sure how it would look, but maybe a couple of black O-rings in the grooves on the front edge of the brake. ???
:-\ I just finished them. One .22 and one .177.
I used the factory brass bolts and a steel 1/16'' probe for the tip.
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CW
CW, let us know when you install them and give them a try. The back end looks to be a little bit short, could be an optical illusion from the angle of the camera, and I'm wondering if there is enough length back there to cock the gun.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on May 04, 2013, 09:27:01 PM
CW, let us know when you install them and give them a try. The back end looks to be a little bit short, could be an optical illusion from the angle of the camera, and I'm wondering if there is enough length back there to cock the gun.
Carl
Will do! IF they are short, I have a easy fix. ;) ;)
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I just posted up the whole process for all to see, too. :-\ :-*
CW
I was going to put the bluefork wire stock on my 1377 but the tube adapter doesn't fit with a Crosman steel breech. Sent Greg an email we'll see what happens.
Got a reply from Greg today he is sending a new adaptor , said he fits them with his breeches and there is no problem but that he will make it right and he did :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 04, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
Nicely done! Is the brake effective or just decorative?
From a purely design aesthetic, the touches of polished pieces are classy, but the brake tends to be a little overwhelming on the front end. It might be interesting to see some black accents on it (i.e. front 1/4" in black, last 1/2" in black, countersink the holes by 1/8" and put in delrin inserts, etc.). Not being picky, just thinking of stuff I would try if I had the tools and talent.
Points well taken. I did this one to powder coat it, but kinda like the aluminum, so I polished it. One thing is the flash lights up part of the chamfers on each vent so it looks sloppy and distorted in the picture. I'll try to get a chongman quality shot at some point. Each of the vents have been "crowned" as well as the muzzle end.
As for effectiveness: One of the few "tools" I do not have is sound level meter (dBs), but I can honestly say that the tone of the report is different in a pleasant way.
I am playing with several variations of muzzle brakes, so I am certain I will settle on a few and add them to the bloodlines.
Quote from: quickster47 on May 04, 2013, 09:27:01 PM
CW, let us know when you install them and give them a try. The back end looks to be a little bit short, could be an optical illusion from the angle of the camera, and I'm wondering if there is enough length back there to cock the gun.
Carl
I installed one over the weekend in the 2240, works perfectly. I could have even trimmed a bit more as the bolt goes further rearward after the hammer cocks. :-* :-* :-\
Next is chrono to see if I have any differences.
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CW
Well the concept has been in my head a long time ...
And this is proof that it works ..
still in the concept stage, it is now on my 2240, will be going on the as2250
when I get a smaller counter, I did find one but it's $80 ...and figure out some other stuff
so it is the ruff so to speak , but it works ... :)
Kevin... what does it count?
Quote from: BDS on May 08, 2013, 07:16:59 PM
Kevin... what does it count?
pull of the trigger = shot count ....
Quote from: KevinP on May 08, 2013, 07:18:18 PM
pull of the trigger = shot count ....
Interesting Kevin, how does it work?
Quote from: BigErn on May 08, 2013, 07:20:49 PM
Interesting Kevin, how does it work?
;D very well !!! ... sorry just had to say ... micro switch activated by the trigger, counter is
self contained ( batteries inside ) and has a reset button ...
No way that a simple, analog impulse counter should be $80 :D more like $12 I'm guessing based on my old panel display tinkering days. A lil look around the web oughta find one and maybe with a wristwatch type battery inside?
Quote from: KevinP on May 08, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
;D very well !!! ... sorry just had to say ... micro switch activated by the trigger, counter is
self contained ( batteries inside ) and has a reset button ...
Aha!! Bedline that thing ;D ;D
Quote from: BDS on May 08, 2013, 07:35:45 PM
No way that a simple, analog impulse counter should be $80 :D more like $12 I'm guessing based on my old panel display tinkering days. A lil look around the web oughta find one and maybe with a wristwatch type battery inside?
??? Believe me I have been looking .... this one was like $ 13.00 from china // slow boat //
I have found smaller = equals more $$ ... it would be so cool cool if you prove me wrong .... :-*
That's cool as all git go! I want one! I want one!!! Are you going to show us how to do it or sell me one?? Either way, I want one of those bad boys. That would be the bomb for Co2 & single shot PCP shooters.
Awesome job! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* I'm all thumbs.
we gotta find the miniature version of an LCD counter for Kevin, for about... $20 :-*
Check out the counter on this thread.
http://airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=8249 (http://airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=8249)
Not really any airgun work but I'm finishing up another trap, this one's for Brent's sons birthday. I decided to paint this one black with the brass looking hardware thinking it's gonna look pretty cool. Also scroll sawed some letters out of oak to put his name on it. The letters are tung oiled. I'll let Brent add more if he wants to.
Took apart and dremel polished trigger and sear, twice today making a toal of 3 times now and I'm getting used to it.
Still not really happy with grittiness, I used some milk bottle shims but I think not sloppy enough, so I've eaten a tube of Pringles just for the lid :-[
And I guess I'll be stripping her down again tomorrow
Quote from: Bazmati2020 on May 08, 2013, 10:31:15 PM
Took apart and dremel polished trigger and sear, twice today making a toal of 3 times now and I'm getting used to it.
Still not really happy with grittiness, I used some milk bottle shims but I think not sloppy enough, so I've eaten a tube of Pringles just for the lid :-[
And I guess I'll be stripping her down again tomorrow
;D ;D
Quote from: arkmaker on May 08, 2013, 08:22:24 PM
That's cool as all git go! I want one! I want one!!! Are you going to show us how to do it or sell me one?? Either way, I want one of those bad boys. That would be the bomb for Co2 & single shot PCP shooters.
Awesome job! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* I'm all thumbs.
Thanks ark, but no big deal ... just have to pay attention as to where you drill the
hole for the screw for micro switch hole...
when I get the final version done I will post the pic. stuff ...
I installed the BLING I received in the mail today for my friend GDM620!!! :-\ :-\ :-\
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CW
Nice stuff there CW.
This morning I put on a brass barrel band, 760 front sight, long probe bolt, and a brass bolt handle on my 1322 :)
Quote from: Cwlongshot on May 08, 2013, 10:51:01 PM
I installed the BLING I received in the mail today for my friend GDM620!!! :-\ :-\ :-\
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CW
Very nice!! I got one of those bolt handles from him too, they are sweeet! Now I want an end plug like that :)
I LOVE the pellet profile bolt!!!
I also got the pump tube brass plug for the 1377 too!! Its a good shot of the re crowned barrel & solid pin too. ;)
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CW
I'm thinking that pin ain't going no where. Looks good :-*
No pics, but I just installed a cothran bolt, probe, and safety on my 1322 carbine with red-dot. Also added a quick detach pin for the shoulder stock. It seems these projects always run into snafus for me, took about 2 hours. ;D When one part doesn't cooperate, the gun doesn't go back together perfectly, something's misaligned, and you've got to trouble shoot all the interconnected parts. Drives one batty!
Set-up looks good, I'll have to post pics eventually. 8)
:( Had to work in the roof today not my air guns :(
Quote from: BigErn on May 08, 2013, 11:17:07 PM
This morning I put on a brass barrel band, 760 front sight, long probe bolt, and a brass bolt handle on my 1322 :)
So where is it Mr. BE can't find no pics and you know too well we always look forward to your builds? :-*
Quote from: crossliner on May 09, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
So where is it Mr. BE can't find no pics and you know too well we always look forward to your builds? :-*
Not a new one buddy but I will zero it today and take some pics :-*
Another strip of the 2300T
Made shims from Pringles lid... Used hole punches and they were too rough, so used dremel to make hole then hand cut with scissors. Worked much better. Polished sear and trigger contact points, Pleased for now as feels less gritty.
Wondering should perhaps the hammer and tube be polished?
Nice bling CW. :-*
Found another thread on that shot counter, uses an LCD Electronic Digital 5 Digit Tally Counter and a micro switch. I ordered a couple tally counters from ebay $1.25 each delivered.
http://airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=8029&highlight=shot+counter (http://airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=8029&highlight=shot+counter)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321088681627?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/321088681627?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
Quote from: DaveB50 on May 09, 2013, 07:02:11 PM
Nice bling CW. :-*
Found another thread on that shot counter, uses an LCD Electronic Digital 5 Digit Tally Counter and a micro switch. I ordered a couple tally counters from ebay $1.25 each delivered.
Cool, I had ordered one to take it apart to see if it would work ... nice find !!! :-*
:P :P The Tri Wing bling arrived!! :P :P :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%202240/null_zps108e1fd6.jpg)
BEAUTIFUL!! ;)
CW
Quote from: KevinP on May 09, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
Cool, I had ordered one to take it apart to see if it would work ... nice find !!! :-*
If it's small enough, maybe it gets recessed into the 1399 stock somewhere and the wires run inside too? How cool is that?
:-* :-*
Quote from: Cwlongshot on May 09, 2013, 11:03:12 PM
:P :P The Tri Wing bling arrived!! :P :P :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%202240/null_zps108e1fd6.jpg)
BEAUTIFUL!! ;)
CW
:-* Sweet
Wow CW you are getting brass from all directions ;D Glad you got your stuff and got it installed. Looking good.
Made a stand for my 2240 based on Quickster47's design;
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on May 10, 2013, 12:01:55 AM
:-* Sweet
Mr007 does nice work!!!
i also got the pieces to repair the FTV. So I finished the install and fired some shots too! WOW its got pep now!!!!! Chrono later ;) ;) ;)
Just WOW!
CW
I just received a refurbished Mrod thursday, got home and before I shot it I did the Bstaley O ring mod, was going to do the lawyer spring mod but got excited and forgot... I'll probably get to that saturday, had enough time to put about 20 pellets through it and pump it up once (took 160 pumps from 1000 to 2500psi), and after only 10 shots it's down from 2500 to under 2000psi so I need to do some tweaking of things... more research is in store...
I've been casting grips all night. I was running low on the ivory ones... and also got a couple of special requests. Good times.
Quote from: Davio on May 10, 2013, 11:35:55 AM
I've been casting grips all night. I was running low on the ivory ones... and also got a couple of special requests. Good times.
Good to see that your busy ... :-*
Davio... PM sent on grips :-*
Davio, another PM sent. :)
Carl
I did a little work on my 2240 today added a new barrel band and a little bling,a polished SS end cap from DC and some stainless screws.
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Quote from: targettgii on May 11, 2013, 01:50:11 AM
I did a little work on my 2240 today added a new barrel band and a little bling,a polished SS end cap from DC and some stainless screws.
Super nice upgrades!
:-* Good lokkin shooter :-*
NICE!
Two recent projects...
Returned my Crosman 2300KT to a more stock configuration.
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/Crosman2300KTBorder_zpsa60e978b.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/Crosman2300KTBorder_zpsa60e978b.jpg.html)
Installed a new N. Clague barrel shroud on the LD.
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Larry, two awesome looking guns !!!
Beautiful pair Larry.
I just rebuilt a phase II 1377 for a friend of a friend he came over yesterday to test fire it he said what did you do to the trigger change it because it's so smooth and light when i told him all i did was polish the parts he then said to my buddy you were right tom this guy knows his s*#t. ;D made me feel pretty good.
Mike
Nice pair of shooters :-* Crosshairs when your have it,use it! :-*
Quote from: targettgii on May 11, 2013, 01:50:11 AM
I did a little work on my 2240 today added a new barrel band and a little bling,a polished SS end cap from DC and some stainless screws.
Where did you get the barrel band? Nice looking add-on.
Carl
Just finished bluing a custom shop tube and a breech. Both were in desperate need! The breech looks rusty in the picture, but it's not. Actually, it is a nice deep dark black! I had problems getting the last tube I did to stop the rusting cycle. Lets hope that is not the case with this one. I need another couple of hours for the developer to set and then I'll oil them. Tomorrow will be the telling tale.
Rich
The results look very good, Rich. I have used many of the cold blues and the Blue Wonder product provides one of the better finishes. I used that product to reblue my childhood .22 rifle (Ithaca M49).
Quote from: arkmaker on May 11, 2013, 06:00:39 PM
Just finished bluing a custom shop tube and a breech. Both were in desperate need! The breech looks rusty in the picture, but it's not. Actually, it is a nice deep dark black! I had problems getting the last tube I did to stop the rusting cycle. Lets hope that is not the case with this one. I need another couple of hours for the developer to set and then I'll oil them. Tomorrow will be the telling tale.
Rich
So far it has worked great with the exception of the 150 tube. it may be that the old tube had to much carbon in it and would not stop rusting because of it. I finally got the rusting cycle to stop using Hoppes N0. 9 gun oil. Stopped it in a flash. I have been using Hoppes since I was a kid. No need to switch now! It just plain works well :-*
That tube looks like it was dipped in ink Rich.....real nice :-*
Quote from: WyoMan on May 11, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
That tube looks like it was dipped in ink Rich.....real nice :-*
I just wiped them done with oil. This tube came out great! Looks like my stock 2240 will not be stock much longer :)
I have had a small Adco red dot on a Savage 23b for years... Mostly because I did not want to drill and tap the receiver. Also because the red dot was mounted with one ring and one single base, held on by one factory screw hole. But I got to thinking what am I saving it for? Its no show piece, its seen allot of use and I enjoy shooting it too. So I said WTH and drilled a tapped it for a Rem 760 base. (Same dia tube) I mention it, because doing that allowed me to mount the dot to the 1377 and I could remove the Aim Point red dot.
While I was at the drilling I also mounted a peep on a old Springfield 22, side mount. One hole was there but was not lined up with the other. So i drilled and tapped a 6-40 to allow two screws for the peep.
SO its musical red dot time with the Crosmans!! :P :P :P :P I put the Adco on the 2240 and the Ultra dot (Its a bit bigger) from the 2240 on the 1377. Then went down and shot them! Both shot great as usual!
CW
I modified all my valves for 8-32 stainless steel screws. I made the screw heads an exact fit using files and a drill and, using a dremel-type tool, cut them off to fit the shallow holes. The disco valves already have 8-32 threads, I just notched the front for the hammer pressure relief hole. I tapped the 2240 valves to 8-32 with a bottoming tap. :)
Quote from: 7624452 on May 11, 2013, 08:17:23 PM
I modified all my valves for 8-32 stainless steel screws. I made the screw heads an exact fit using files and a drill and, using a dremel-type tool, cut them off to fit the shallow holes. The disco valves already have 8-32 threads, I just notched the front for the hammer pressure relief hole. I tapped the 2240 valves to 8-32 with a bottoming tap. :)
??? ??? I don't know anything about the 2240 valves YET,but what does that do for them!!! :-[
a precision fit like that will stop the valve from moving when you screw the co2 cap on
the standard retaining screw has at least .020" play, if you take the breech off whilst you have a co2 cart in you'll see that the valve exhaust port is pushed out of alignment by the ammount of play in the standard screw head
i prefer to pin from either side with m5 grubscrews after i've aligned the valve port with the main tube
ped
Quote from: quickster47 on May 11, 2013, 02:20:37 PM
Where did you get the barrel band? Nice looking add-on.
Carl
Looks identical to Mr. 1377's..
Thank you ped. I have not tore into mine yet,still got alot of readin to do before I go there . Thanks again.
Michael
Quote from: crossliner on May 12, 2013, 12:34:23 AM
Looks identical to Mr. 1377's..
That's what I'm trying to figure out and hopefully get the proper answer.
Carl
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on May 11, 2013, 10:52:13 PM
??? ??? I don't know anything about the 2240 valves YET,but what does that do for them!!! :-[
The main reason is that I just don't like the valve rattling around in the tube. The second reason is to provide a safety factor if the valve is used with bulk CO2. :)
Inquiring minds want to know how to get those barrel bands. As far. as me , my Mellon parts finally got here so now all whopping 3 of my Crosman pistols have 1701 triggers. Guess after you do one you just have to do them all, thank God I don't have many. Also I finished the one off custom pellet trap for Brent's son, think Big E would be proud of my rattle can paint job on it. I am happy how it turned out, I would post up some pics but it's for his birthday and not sure if he looks over Brent's shoulder.
Where did you get the barrel band? Nice looking add-on.
Carl
I got the band from the same guy as 1377 on the GTA forum,by the way has any body talked to Ed lately.Sorry for the late reply guys was out all day with family.
Larry those guns look great
Rich that bluing came out very nice
And thank you all for the compliments. :)
Quote from: Flex on February 06, 2013, 02:28:57 AM
Last month, after lots of readin' (posts and threads on this forum), I decided that I had to get doin' something on my newly acquired Crosman pumper. Not wanting to go "crazy" (mod-wise) I started small. I did the basic "fluff & buff" of the trigger group. Additionally, I added a regular .22 cal case to the top of the sear spring to act as a spring guide and smooth it out some. Since all I really did was polish and lube the metal on metal contact surfaces, the only noticeable change was a smoother feel to the trigger pull. I tried to compress the factory spring somewhat to lighten the trigger pull but I didn't experience much success with that.
Well, after some more reading, I decided to kick it up a notch. I wanted to lighten the pull and knew that I needed a different spring. I wrote down a few of the part #s for the suggested springs and headed for the hardware store. Unfortunately their spring selection had a different numbering system. Since some of the suggested springs had dimensions as well as part numbers, I had a general range to choose from. I settled on one that was ~2" long x 5/16" O.D. with 0.023" wire dia.
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At first I thought it might be a bit weak and a bit too long. As recommended in another trigger mod post, I was planning on lengthening the sear spring guide by using a .22 cal magnum case.
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As before, I polished the magnum case and lubed the interface between the case and the sear. Fortuitously, the case length seems to be a perfect fit! With the hammer un-cocked, there is a mm or 2 of clearance between the base of the grip frame stud and the case mouth.
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When the hammer is cocked, the spacing increases to maybe 5 or 6 mm. (I didn't measure either dimension).
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Since the spring is less stiff laterally, than the stock sear spring, the magnum case functions to direct all of the spring's force against the sear arm. I banged it around from all directions and was unable to make the sear release the hammer inadvertently. The trigger pull was very smooth and considerably lighter than the stock condition. Additionally, the magnum case acts as to limit trigger travel when it bottoms out on the grip frame. I'm pretty sure others have done this mod and I hope that it is working as well for them as it seems to work for me. Flex
Back in the early part of Feb of this year I posted a description and pics of a mod that I thought was a pretty simple, inexpensive and safe way to both lighten and smooth out the trigger pull on the Crosman 13xx and (some) 22xx air pistols. I came up with an idea to possibly improve on what I described above and I thought I would share with the forum what I did to my 1322c this afternoon. The basic concept (in my mind) of smoothing out the trigger pull on any firearm is the reduction of friction. In the case of the Crosman pistols that we're talking about here, there are 2 pivot points (trigger & sear) and 3 metal on metal interfaces (trigger/sear, sear spring/sear & sear/hammer). The discussion from my initial post deals with all of these areas in one way or another. The additional modification that I completed today deals specifically with the sear spring/sear interface. My objective was to minimize the area of contact. The underside of the sear isn't very easy to modify other than making it very smooth. The top of the .22 cal mag shell (i.e. the spring guide) was easy to mod. I figured if I were to "dome out" the part of the shell that contacts the sear, I might be able to effect a change in the smoothness of the trigger pull related to a significant reduction of friction.
Here's how I did that: 1st, I made sure that the base of the .22 mag shell was as smooth as possible,
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then to make the "dome" I dropped a std 4.5mm BB into the case
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tapped on the BB with a punch until the desired "domage" was created
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Then, it was just a matter of putting it all back together.
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All of the pivot points and contact points were lubricated with Teflon lube. In the event no one noticed, I completely stayed away from the sear/hammer interface. I prefer to not alter that part of the trigger group. I don't have away to measure the trigger pull with any accuracy. I will say that the "feel" is very light and very smooth. So there you have it. Simple mod, minimal expense and seems to perform as expected. Questions & comments welcome. Flex
Cool stuff and nice write up. Thanks for sharing.
I've purposefully stumbled (like Dick VanDyke for those of us over 50) onto my own way of getting as little trigger pull as possible, but your package certainly costs less (as long as .22 casings and a spare BB are available). ;) I may have to emulate your strategy for no other reason than to measure it and compare it. if I ever do I will PM you the trigger pulls of your fine work.
I don't think Crosman intended for these guns to have hair triggers, but thankfully what they did provide us as a basis can be worked out quite a bit. Again, thanks for sharing. :)
nice work/idea with the domed contact point
ped
Cool idea and great pictures too.
Cool idea and some nice work :-*
Great idea and great write-up! :-*
If you are looking to further reduce friction points, may I suggest drilling a 3/32 hole x 1/16" deep in the top of lobe on trigger, put a wee dab of grease or Moly paste on it and insert a 3/32" ball bearing (the one from your safety is perfect size...;)), and give it a try...me thinks you will like the results!
I did that mod on my 2240 trigger and it really helped (although I could have moved it rearward just a touch more):
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/hpa/007.jpg)
Just finished modifying my Crosman butt stock for my Gauntlet II entry.....now to start the fore stock!
Sorry guys, no pics 'til I enter the completed gun!...:P ;D ;D. All I can say is that I'm pretty sure no one has seen one like this before! ;)
Thanks for those mods guys... I have a 2240 that I think would benefit from those until I get another 1701p trigger frame!!!
Rich
Super great mods Guys :-*
Removed the Blue Fork frame from Stone Cold. Replaced with the Crosman 1701 frame, grips, and modified hammer. The BF frame will be in the for sale section soon.
Today is Mama's Day :-* Post lunch celebration the 43 yo wife ( she shotgunned married me and I am telling you this because we are all friends here lol! ;)) and my teen age son wanted to join me so joined they did..I was surprised because she beat our kid after the 1st round..She is a persistent daughter of a gun and she does not like 2nd place so tomorrow ( it's Election 2013 aka Circus 2013 in the Phils. tomorrow so it's a holiday) she wants to do it again..I am kinda scared (but don't tell her :D) coz she did extremely nice groupings :-*
Work? Well I replaced my silver BKL mounts w/ black ones and mounted a Burris FastFire red dot on my other 2400kt..Long time coz my dovetail-weaver adapter just came last week..Pics of builds follow tomorrow.
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Quote from: HappyHunter on May 12, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
Great idea and great write-up! :-*
If you are looking to further reduce friction points, may I suggest drilling a 3/32 hole x 1/16" deep in the top of lobe on trigger, put a wee dab of grease or Moly paste on it and insert a 3/32" ball bearing (the one from your safety is perfect size...;)), and give it a try...me thinks you will like the results!
I did that mod on my 2240 trigger and it really helped (although I could have moved it rearward just a touch more):
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/hpa/007.jpg)
The "bearing in the trigger lobe" mod is actually where I got the idea to do my mod at the other end of the sear! I also wanted to do a mod that had a minimal amount of "destructive" changes i.e. drilling a hole in the trigger arm. With the exception of smoothing the metal at both ends of the sear "no Crosman parts are harmed in any way". If I ever had to send the pistol in for warranty work, I wouldn't have to swap out any parts other than putting the original sear spring back.
Never-the-less, I am contemplating doing the mod to the trigger lobe too. I'm not so sure that moving the ball more to the rear is necessary! Where it is might be just right. Yes, I'm sure that there is a "sweet spot", keep in mind that too far forward, while reducing trigger pull may allow the trigger to "bottom out" before releasing the hammer. Placing the ball too far to the rear would decrease the mechanical advantage, increasing the force required but at the same time make it a "hair trigger". Both of those situations are theoretical and probably wouldn't occur in the ranges that the mod would actually make. I'm just sayin'. A bonus "side effect" of both of these mods is that they can compensate for those of us that tend to get over zealous with a file or Dremel tool! :-* If you want to make the underside of the sear completely smooth at both ends a fair amount of metal will be removed and dimensional changes will be made. The correction at the trigger/sear interface is the most critical since it is a direct linkage. The spring/sear interface at the other end probably makes little if any difference.
I think that most of us agree that it is nice that Crosman has been kind enough to design their products with room for improvement. :) It's also nice that they have a ready supply of inexpensive replacement parts so that we are not punished too severely for our mistakes. ;) Flex
Thanks for the tips on the 22 mag shell dimple mod idea. :-* :-*
Based on that inspiration, I just finished up a Custom Shop Trigger frame using a regular 22 LR shell. I will have to keep my eyes open for one next time I am at the range. I polished the shell dimple, sear contact points and trigger with diamond compound. I have a brass trigger and got a little to aggressive trying to get a couple of pits out and broke through the brass plating on the trigger blade side. Still looks pretty good though. I added teflon shims to the pins and a few small dabs of moly as well. Very smooth feeling now, but will need to mount to a tube and hammer to feel the real deal!
Nice twist/ improvement to you first trigger mod Flex!! :-*
That, with the ball bearing in the trigger, is about as good as it gets with the stock trigger setup!
Not sure if you guys that aren't familiar with his first mod noticed, but using the 22mag casing versus a 22lr casing... because of the longer length acts/ works like having a trigger stop (like you see on a CCS trigger frame). I used his mod on the 1377, and it works really well and I love it. Been meaning to add the ball bearing mod, and now with the shell casing to do also... that is an even better reason to get busy on it ;)
Change the silver BKL rings to black ones of the same brand..I am done w/ silver for now ;)
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Finally mounted the Burris FastFire holo sight on my LW-barreled 2400kt..Also a torch..I am going to buy an Israeli-made CAA offset torch mount tomorrow..The mount on this one is a crappy but not so bad $8 something one that came free w/ my flashlight orders a long time ago...Also the torch is this one I do not like it because of its blue tail cap switch..It does not match well w/ the black and gold combo so I am going to replace it it's a temporary from my collection..
http://www.batteryjunction.com/itp-r01.html (http://www.batteryjunction.com/itp-r01.html)
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Took pics of yesterday's family event :-* Target is a 6mm Sharpie dot..Range 19 meters benchrested 5 shots each..
My son's. I expected him to do better than the wife but she surprised me on the 2nd round..We only had 2 as it started to rain..
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The wife's..
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Mine..
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Pics should be rotated to the right..It should be in a horizontal position and not vertical. Best regards.
Those few pieces of brass give your gun just the right touch of class without being gaudy.
Carl
Thanks Mr. Q..It would look better w/ wood grips..Black plastic and brass does not sit w/ me well but my other 2 Crosmans are already in black and silver so I had to settle for this..Brass is a pain to maintain >:( Best regards.
Those guns are so sweet CL :-\ :-*
Quote from: BigErn on May 13, 2013, 02:48:00 PM
Those guns are so sweet CL :-\ :-*
Thank you Mr. BigE :)
Quote from: Brent on May 13, 2013, 03:10:20 AM
Nice twist/ improvement to you first trigger mod Flex!! :-*
That, with the ball bearing in the trigger, is about as good as it gets with the stock trigger setup!
Not sure if you guys that aren't familiar with his first mod noticed, but using the 22mag casing versus a 22lr casing... because of the longer length acts/ works like having a trigger stop (like you see on a CCS trigger frame). I used his mod on the 1377, and it works really well and I love it. Been meaning to add the ball bearing mod, and now with the shell casing to do also... that is an even better reason to get busy on it ;)
Thanks Brent for the kind words AND the reminder that sometimes the info in the "quoted" portion of a reply/post is worth looking at :-*. I think that the longer .22 mag case is the key to this mod since it allows for the lighter spring to direct nearly all of it's force against the sear. Otherwise it would curve out into the front or rear of the space in the grip frame. RE: the trigger stop feature (which is clearly a nice side effect of this mod), be aware that if both the shell case dome AND the trigger lobe ball are used, too much slack will be taken up and the shell case will have to be shortened some. Thanks to all that viewed and replied. Flex
First off, congratulations to all for 100 pages of showing us how you 'getter done'.
My 1300 Medalist II has been feeling poorly for awhile. When I pumped, I could hear air leaking back past the pump cup. It was only shooting around 280 fps.
So I took it apart and deburred and sanded the inside of the compression tube, and in place of the standard cup, which was pretty chewed up, I installed an O-Ring adapter from Mac1.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Medalist%20II/MacORingAdpt.jpg)
The gun put back together is below. The blank drill set in the background is something I've had in the shop for a long time, and I find it very useful. I use one a little smaller than the roll pin in a drill press to remove and reinstall the pump-arm roll pin. I find that much easier than pounding it out. When adjusting the headspace, I used one that just fits as a stand in for the roll pin until I got it adjusted just right. She now shoots around 370 fps.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Medalist%20II/1300MII.jpg)
These are some of the guns that Crosman made when "they" cared about QC. Nice piece, I wish I had one like that. You sould be very proud of it. ;) You have done a really good job.
:-* nice looker ...
Very nice YSYEO. :-* :-* :-*
That's a real beauty, ysyeo :-* . As far as me I started refinishing the grips I got from Rick at airgrips. They started getting some white spots and I never could get an answer from him on what he used to finish them so I did a lot of sanding and fitting. Now it's many coats of tung oil . Hopefully they will be ok.
YSYEO that Medalist 1300 is one sweet looking shooter. You have done an excellent job. :-* :-* :-*
Carl
Man all of those guns are SWEET!
Worked on my new toy today got it shootin but will be taking it back down for the final work here perrty soon. Did a little fishin this mornig
Made a "blinging" hammer for my 1377, polished and molyed everything... but can't feel any difference with a stock one ???
Have to go further...
Here is the hammer and my 'bling station' :)
Quote from: ettolo on May 15, 2013, 09:15:39 AM
Made a "blinging" hammer for my 1377, polished and molyed everything... but can't feel any difference with a stock one ???
Have to go further...
Here is the hammer and my 'bling station' :)
LOOKS GREAT!! Ettolo! :-* :-* :-*
Last night I got a stock valve in the mail form Crosman. I wanted to test myself and see if I could make a flat top valve out of it.
Took 10 minutes with some dykem and a file!
Then with the dremil I knocked off the corner of the air port to allow better flow out of the valve.
Lastly I took two threads off the top half to increase internal volume.
All told, maybe 35 minutes! Now I need a flat top pistol to match! This time I want a Alum or Brass one instead of derlin.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%201377/null_zpsdf6b9b19.jpg)
CW
You made a flat surface with a file!?!?! You are a superhero! Great!
Quote from: YSYEO on May 14, 2013, 03:00:31 AM
First off, congratulations to all for 100 pages of showing us how you 'getter done'.
My 1300 Medalist II has been feeling poorly for awhile. When I pumped, I could hear air leaking back past the pump cup. It was only shooting around 280 fps.
So I took it apart and deburred and sanded the inside of the compression tube, and in place of the standard cup, which was pretty chewed up, I installed an O-Ring adapter from Mac1.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Medalist%20II/MacORingAdpt.jpg)
The gun put back together is below. The blank drill set in the background is something I've had in the shop for a long time, and I find it very useful. I use one a little smaller than the roll pin in a drill press to remove and reinstall the pump-arm roll pin. I find that much easier than pounding it out. When adjusting the headspace, I used one that just fits as a stand in for the roll pin until I got it adjusted just right. She now shoots around 370 fps.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Medalist%20II/1300MII.jpg)
What a nice looking piece :-*
Quote from: ettolo on May 15, 2013, 09:15:39 AM
Made a "blinging" hammer for my 1377, polished and molyed everything... but can't feel any difference with a stock one ???
Have to go further...
Here is the hammer and my 'bling station' :)
Smooth as glass :-*
Quote from: ettolo on May 15, 2013, 11:48:37 AM
You made a flat surface with a file!?!?! You are a superhero! Great!
Mastering the use of a "Russian Mill" is a useful skill. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Misc/thumbsUp1eye.gif)
Quote from: YSYEO on May 15, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
Mastering the use of a "Russian Mill" is a useful skill. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Misc/thumbsUp1eye.gif)
Took about ten minutes, last few thousandths went real slow with three or four applications of dykem. The material is very soft, with sharp file it cuts like chalk.
I would like to team this with a metal piston is possible... No rush as I don't have a gun to put it in....yet. :)
CW
Quote from: bgmcgee on May 12, 2013, 02:47:04 AM
Inquiring minds want to know how to get those barrel bands. As far. as me , my Mellon parts finally got here so now all whopping 3 of my Crosman pistols have 1701 triggers. Guess after you do one you just have to do them all, thank God I don't have many. Also I finished the one off custom pellet trap for Brent's son, think Big E would be proud of my rattle can paint job on it. I am happy how it turned out, I would post up some pics but it's for his birthday and not sure if he looks over Brent's shoulder.
Just saw this Barry. It's cool to post pics :-*
Braden will never know ;)
Quote from: Brent on May 16, 2013, 02:07:35 AM
Just saw this Barry. It's cool to post pics :-*
Braden will never know ;)
Here is a couple of pictures of the trap Brent asked me to make for his son's birthday. I couldn't just send a plain old trap that wouldn't be right so this is how it is looking.
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130511123216586_zps11d78dc8.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130511123216586_zps11d78dc8.jpg.html)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130511123148704_zps08beb554.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130511123148704_zps08beb554.jpg.html)
Wow that turned out really nice very cool. :-* :-* :-*
Wow!! Do you think he is even gonna use that thing? He might not wanna mess it up. Looks great!!!
I hope he does that's what it's made for. I had to make it special, just the way I am. ;D
That rocks Barry! I know he'll love it. Custom made for his birthday.
Good gift idea Brent. :-*
Isn't that trap totally trick :) :) :-* :-*
I only was thinking of one as a possible birthday present so Braden could shoot with me in the garage when he got to be a better shot, and asked Barry what he thought. Can't take much credit for it really. He is the one that took it, and ran with it!! ;)
First it was going to be a little more carefully built... then it was going to be painted to make it more unique... then decided on black as the coolest color... then it was going to be lettered also. In that order ;) ;) :-*
Barry cut those letters out by hand with a scroll saw (and he was even taking time to look at, print out, and deciding even on what font to use for them) - then he stained them. They look store bought... don't they!
I am only going to wrap it up when it gets here... but this birthday present is so going to be from Barry, to him. My present is going to be the duck seal, and helping him install it ;)
The best gifts in the world, are those that are hand made!!!! I cherish mine from Barry, and even like it better than Braden's... because it was Barry's gift to me personally.
My wife was kidding me tonight though when she saw it. She said to me- "he is going to think it is pretty cool you know... that his is prettier than yours!"
... and then she winked at me lol
well done Barry!
Quote from: bgmcgee on May 16, 2013, 06:09:37 AM
I hope he does that's what it's made for. I had to make it special, just the way I am. ;D
:-* :-* :-* :-* AWESOME JOB BROTHER!!! :-* :-* :-* :-*
CW
Quote from: Cwlongshot on May 16, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
:-* :-* :-* :-* AWESOME JOB BROTHER!!! :-* :-* :-* :-*
CW
x2
Quote from: Baltim0re28 on May 16, 2013, 05:33:11 AM
Wow!! Do you think he is even gonna use that thing? He might not wanna mess it up. Looks great!!!
For real!!!!
Wow! That certainly is the Deeeeluxe High Speed Low Drag Sport Model. Nice job! :)
Thanks for the compliments guys. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. A lot of credit goes to some of you because of the cool guns you have put together I would have never thought about that color combination or for that fact of even making these traps to start with.
I punched out the front barrel bushing on my air force condor and added a bleed hole under the hand guard all to. Quiet it down. I thought it was still noisy but my daughter and her friends couldnt hear it out side my bed room.
I had tore down the 1701P and did some touch up work to the barrel. Finally had an opportunity to do some shooting with it this afternoon. Still room for improvement, but I don't think the barrel is an issue any longer. Some chrony work will be next on the list.
Results of the afternoons shooting. Five shot groups @ 10m benched. 3-9x32 bug buster.
A little pellet testing and then shot down from a fill with the two seemingly best pellets...looking for a sweet spot. Seems the 10.3 JSB's get the nod overall. Will try washing the CPHP and see how/if that helps.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3922_zps593100f4.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3922_zps593100f4.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3921_zps2bdb191f.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3921_zps2bdb191f.jpg.html)
And for reference...some before groups.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3898_zps41fbe449.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3898_zps41fbe449.jpg.html)
Soooo many things to tinker with on this pistol.....I'm loving it! :)
Al
Nice shooting Gippeto. :-* :-* :-*
Wow! Really nice nail driver you got going there. :)
I am working on a new muzzle brake, but the first one of anything ALWAYS takes longer. I'd be done if I had changman to hold my hand through the taper I am trying to do. ;)
The 1701P is performing well, Al. What barrel work did you do? Have you tried any quality wadcutters yet?
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/crosmans_zps67c679d2.jpg) (http://s960.photobucket.com/user/rangerfredbob/media/Other%20toys/crosmans_zps67c679d2.jpg.html)
Wasn't working on an air pistol but it was a Crosman :)
Shot my Mrod today as seen in the middle of the above pic, first time I'd shot it out in the open and I now realize how quiet it is :), it's much louder when I stand in my back doorway... anyway, the ping/hammer is all you hear so I shot it down all the way to open up the chamber, while I was there I took out the gauge block to port it (didn't get a pic of that) and I think I doubled it's original volume hogging out the ends and the bore a little on the lathe, once I got that in I put a couple pieces of nice open cell foam spaced relatively evenly, I'll see if it helps the ping tomorrow, shouldn't have decreased the volume much being 30CPI foam...
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 20, 2013, 04:31:01 AM
The 1701P is performing well, Al. What barrel work did you do? Have you tried any quality wadcutters yet?
Polished a little burr out of the chamber/transfer port area... IMO was the reason "tighter" fitting pellets were not grouping as well as expected. Re-did the crown while I had it at the lathe, then ran a few patches with bore bright through. Pretty much everything I've tried except the Crosman "competition" wadcutters is grouping fairly well now. A few of those groups were three shots through the same hole before opening up...there's more potential yet to be realized. 8)
Don't have any other wadcutters to try...will include some in the next pellet order. Any suggestions for a good wad cutter?
Al
Quote from: Gippeto on May 20, 2013, 02:50:23 AM
I had tore down the 1701P and did some touch up work to the barrel. Finally had an opportunity to do some shooting with it this afternoon. Still room for improvement, but I don't think the barrel is an issue any longer. Some chrony work will be next on the list.
Results of the afternoons shooting. Five shot groups @ 10m benched. 3-9x32 bug buster.
A little pellet testing and then shot down from a fill with the two seemingly best pellets...looking for a sweet spot. Seems the 10.3 JSB's get the nod overall. Will try washing the CPHP and see how/if that helps.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3922_zps593100f4.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3922_zps593100f4.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3921_zps2bdb191f.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3921_zps2bdb191f.jpg.html)
And for reference...some before groups.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3898_zps41fbe449.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3898_zps41fbe449.jpg.html)
Soooo many things to tinker with on this pistol.....I'm loving it! :)
Al
Nice shooting
Gippeto that 1701P is sure shooting good. Glad you are enjoying it also. :)
Carl
Quote from: Gippeto on May 20, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
Polished a little burr out of the chamber/transfer port area... IMO was the reason "tighter" fitting pellets were not grouping as well as expected. Re-did the crown while I had it at the lathe, then ran a few patches with bore bright through. Pretty much everything I've tried except the Crosman "competition" wadcutters is grouping fairly well now. A few of those groups were three shots through the same hole before opening up...there's more potential yet to be realized. 8)
Don't have any other wadcutters to try...will include some in the next pellet order. Any suggestions for a good wad cutter?
Al
I have had that happen alot.....always assumed it was either me or pellet inconsistency (including the loading process), guess is that it's not the gun ???
Quote from: Gippeto on May 20, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
Don't have any other wadcutters to try...will include some in the next pellet order. Any suggestions for a good wad cutter?
Al
If you are shooting the pistol at stock velocities (@450 fps), any of the RWS or H&N offerings would be excellent. I primarily shoot 7.x-8.x grain RWS R-10 Match and H&N Match Pistol (4.51mm). If you prefer a heavier pellets, look at RWS R-10 Match heavy (8.2 gr), RWS Meisterkugeln Rifle (8.2 gr) and H&N Sport (8.18 gr).
Quote from: Gippeto on May 20, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
Any suggestions for a good wad cutter?
Hey Al, I just received a tin of these from Airgunsource to try out and now wish I ordered a sleeve of them...VERY accurate in my 1750 PCP (haven't tried them in the '78 yet) http://www.airgunsource.com/store/index.php?product=JSB.S100&c=199 (http://www.airgunsource.com/store/index.php?product=JSB.S100&c=199) Not sure if your neck of the woods has 'em or not... ??? Haven't seen them listed on D&L's site or SSSO either...
Before trying the JSB's, I had (and still have) great results with the 8.18 gr H&H Finale Match Rifle... ;)
Oh, yeah....Nice shootin' btw! :-* :-*
I took my 1377 with me last weekend up to my deer camp. I am able to shoot up there without bother or worry. I also brought the crony. :P :P
Well I found that at 8/9 pumps I was only just over 500fps... @ 13 pumps I was just a tiniest bit more. Then at 17 518 and at 20 520... Something was wrong. I figured it to be the head space. I was correct, I removed the piston and O rings and checked. The pump closed to the pump tube with no resistance. Almost half a revolution of the piston head had the piston and valve contacting each other 5/8-3/4'' from closing. Perfect!
I put everything back together and WOW I topped out at 772 with a 7.2g Laser and 622 fps with a 13g Big Boy!! :-* :-* :-*
CW
Quote from: Cwlongshot on May 21, 2013, 02:07:44 AM
I took my 1377 with me last weekend up to my deer camp. I am able to shoot up there without bother or worry. I also brought the crony. :P :P
Well I found that at 8/9 pumps I was only just over 500fps... @ 13 pumps I was just a tiniest bit more. Then at 17 518 and at 20 520... Something was wrong. I figured it to be the head space. I was correct, I removed the piston and O rings and checked. The pump closed to the pump tube with no resistance. Almost half a revolution of the piston head had the piston and valve contacting each other 5/8-3/4'' from closing. Perfect!
I put everything back together and WOW I topped out at 772 with a 7.2g Laser and 622 fps with a 13g Big Boy!! :-* :-* :-*
CW
Way to go :-* :-* :-*
Some nice numbers CW. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: Cwlongshot on May 21, 2013, 02:07:44 AM
I took my 1377 with me last weekend up to my deer camp. I am able to shoot up there without bother or worry. I also brought the crony. :P :P
Well I found that at 8/9 pumps I was only just over 500fps... @ 13 pumps I was just a tiniest bit more. Then at 17 518 and at 20 520... Something was wrong. I figured it to be the head space. I was correct, I removed the piston and O rings and checked. The pump closed to the pump tube with no resistance. Almost half a revolution of the piston head had the piston and valve contacting each other 5/8-3/4'' from closing. Perfect!
I put everything back together and WOW I topped out at 772 with a 7.2g Laser and 622 fps with a 13g Big Boy!! :-* :-* :-*
CW
Seen that happen before.....if it happens again you might be chasing deformation / wear.....20 pumps is a lot....too much unless you have increased the volume of the valve. Don't want to discourage you but the pages of forum history are filled with hot pumpers that are not around today.....I destroyed my first one and don't want that to happen to you.....
Quote from: WyoMan on May 21, 2013, 03:53:43 AM
Seen that happen before.....if it happens again you might be chasing deformation / wear.....20 pumps is a lot....too much unless you have increased the volume of the valve. Don't want to discourage you but the pages of forum history are filled with hot pumpers that are not around today.....I destroyed my first one and don't want that to happen to you.....
This valve has been ported and two threads removed for increased volume.
In watching the vel numbers I still see vel increasing nicely to twenty. But since I do not intend to shoot much at all at twenty pumps I stopped. I agree having to pump that much IS greatly increasing wear and tear on the works!
BTW I have shimmed the pump linkage and I stalled a solid 3/16" pin for improved longevity. ;)
Back to the valve, I would like to pin it, but after my last mishap need to be careful. I have also read that porting and increasing volume is not that beneficial in a 177 unless you really push things. That is not my intent here. Mostly I did it to "see" what I might get. Any how. I have been wanting a 2289 too and I already have another FTV pleated but not cut for more volume. SO I hesitate to pin before I may get the 2289. As if I do, I will swap valves THEN pin.
I would really like a brass piston instead of the derlin one I have now too, just waiting to see if one turns up less than the price of the gun... I have seen some for $35 hoping to trim that too... ::)
Thanks for the info! I LOVE the friendly and free sharing of such information!! It's a huge part of what makes this a fun and great place! KUDOs brother!
CW
Quote from: Gippeto on May 20, 2013, 02:50:23 AM
I had tore down the 1701P and did some touch up work to the barrel. Finally had an opportunity to do some shooting with it this afternoon. Still room for improvement, but I don't think the barrel is an issue any longer. Some chrony work will be next on the list.
Results of the afternoons shooting. Five shot groups @ 10m benched. 3-9x32 bug buster.
A little pellet testing and then shot down from a fill with the two seemingly best pellets...looking for a sweet spot. Seems the 10.3 JSB's get the nod overall. Will try washing the CPHP and see how/if that helps.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3922_zps593100f4.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3922_zps593100f4.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3921_zps2bdb191f.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3921_zps2bdb191f.jpg.html)
And for reference...some before groups.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/IMG_3898_zps41fbe449.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/IMG_3898_zps41fbe449.jpg.html)
Soooo many things to tinker with on this pistol.....I'm loving it! :)
Al
Very nice shooting Al!! :-*
What do you have in mind next, to improve on that? Not much more room to go up from here ;)
CWL "20 pumps" that's a beater on that poor gun IMO.
What we sometimes lose sight of is.. that all the sheet metal linkage that we shim and bush and valves we pin etc etc, the gun is till just light gage sheet steel and it will crack or deform on you before long :D
Quote from: BDS on May 22, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
CWL "20 pumps" that's a beater on that poor gun IMO.
What we sometimes lose sight of is.. that all the sheet metal linkage that we shim and bush and valves we pin etc etc, the gun is till just light gage sheet steel and it will crack or deform on you before long :D
That's okay. It just gives you an excuse to start a new build...or order new parts.
Quote from: Brent on May 21, 2013, 11:41:41 PMWhat do you have in mind next, to improve on that? Not much more room to go up from here ;)
The intent will be to find a velocity where the groups appear to be the tightest, then tune the pistol around that velocity.
Regards,
Al
Time to share: If you get an anodized aluminum breech from BNA, it will EASILY accept the metal breech end cap if you do two simple things and make one simple decision.
First, just drill out the end of the breech with a 17/64" drill bit. You only need to go in about 5/8". The breech bore back there is exactly .25" and the OD of the cap stem is .254. Okay, part 1 done.
Second, that breech has a flat for the standard rear sight. A perfect little flat that hems it in rather nicely I will add. The metal sight that can be flipped for peep or for notch must be shortened because it interferes with the rounded cap you just installed. So, you have to decide whether you want peep or notch.
Finally, simply grind off the end of the one you decide against... and then touch up the steel edge you ground off that is now on the bottom with Birchwood Casey touchup pen.
Beautiful fit and finish. Took me less than 5 mins and that included cool down time from the belt sander.
Very nice Davio... :-*
Davio that is a great mod. Thanks for sharing. :-*
Carl
Nice mod Davio :-*
Yes nice mod Davio. :-*
I broke the stock for my Gauntlet build over the week end.
now its back to the drawing board to rethink the whole thing..... Luckily much of that contemplation will take place in Santa Fe over the next 5 days or so.....
"much... contemplation will take place in Santa Fe"
Really ??? :D
Say hello to Jim Morrison and the Indian for us 8) ;D
I'll be seeing a lot of Indians.... the Mrs (Cherokee) will be setting up at the Native Treasures show at the convention center. Andplenty of places to see the ghost of Jim Morrison walking the edge of the highway.....
Cool... great show too, take extra $$$ :-*
hehe she's a vendor. Thats worse, cuz I got 2 days to wander around and buy stuff from the other vendors....
Quote from: dan_house on May 23, 2013, 12:23:26 AM
hehe she's a vendor. Thats worse, cuz I got 2 days to wander around and buy stuff from the other vendors....
Hope you packed a little pellet fun with you.....
Got tired of muzzle brakes/cocking assists that don't work on this gun so I made one out of PVC. Let's see if this one will work. Just needs bedliner and testing 8)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img51/5937/dscn2357u.jpg)
finally got time to try fitting a ldc to my bluestreak i think i've been successful but until i shoot some target tomorrow i won't know if its aligned correctly
pics to follow whe my cameras charged
ped
BigE you sound determined to make that thing work one way or the other and right now it's looking the other might just do the trick.
Carl
Looks pretty good Ern nice job.
Mike
Nice Ern... reverse that order... Testing first, and if likey, then bedliner :-*
Whats the bore diameter in your brake?
pics of how i've fitted an ldc to my bluestreak what i've done is modified an eb22 adapter by milling the dovetail of the bottom of it then slotting it so the pump arm clears
the adapter is a close engineering fit so a rubber persquading tool was used to tap it on ,to remove it i had to drill and tap the front so a grub screw could be screw in which pushes against the plug cap and pushes it off
i had to make two cut outs to clear the rear roll pin and replaced the front one with m5 grub screws that i tapped all the way through the main tube and plug
the pump arm forend had to have a slight ammount of adjustment so it cleared the adapter
heres what i started with
will have to do another post to show the end result
ped
pics of how it turned out
ped
Wow, now that is definitely very innovative. How is it working for you?
Carl
Very cool and nice job.
Mike
Ya, very slick way to go about it :-*
cheers chaps i'm going to take it to work tomorrow to test it fully but from the couple of test shots i did earlier it works quite well at collecting "lead dust"
ped
Very cool ped can't wait to hear the full report or lack of that is . :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
ped old boy... I'm proud of you, you made it work!
That issue has been the bane of the Benji and Dan pumpers and appears you now have it sussed! Congrats :-*
Great solution, ped. The engineering of that adapter is outstanding. Didn't this project come about because you were having trouble contacting Ballistic Enterprises?
Quote from: ped on May 24, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
pics of how i've fitted an ldc to my bluestreak what i've done is modified an eb22 adapter by milling the dovetail of the bottom of it then slotting it so the pump arm clears
the adapter is a close engineering fit so a rubber persquading tool was used to tap it on ,to remove it i had to drill and tap the front so a grub screw could be screw in which pushes against the plug cap and pushes it off
i had to make two cut outs to clear the rear roll pin and replaced the front one with m5 grub screws that i tapped all the way through the main tube and plug
the pump arm forend had to have a slight ammount of adjustment so it cleared the adapter
heres what i started with
will have to do another post to show the end result
ped
Looks topnotch yes sir :-*
Great job, looks good on the Blue Streak.
well tested it today and looks like a rethink is required its super quiet but groups like a blunderbuss at 50yds
with the ldc on poi moved about 12" high to the right about 6" and groups were about 2" i actually saw pellets corkscrewing through the scope when the sun was shining(rare thing sun in yorkshire)
ped
Saw some stuff laying around that looked like it would fit together
Hmmm....wonder what this is going to be ;D
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322Mag/build1_zps0211bee4.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/1322Mag/build1_zps0211bee4.jpg.html)
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322Mag/build2_zps0a07e6bb.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/1322Mag/build2_zps0a07e6bb.jpg.html)
just installed a TKO trigger on my 2240...It feels nice a little thin though :)
I just ordered a FTP for a future project, some fancy O rings (Crosman) and a rebuilding kit for my ORIGINAL Blue streak! I hope its a quick ship... after all this time I NEED to shoot the streak!! :P
CW
Quote from: WyoMan on May 25, 2013, 09:23:26 PM
Saw some stuff laying around that looked like it would fit together
Hmmm....wonder what this is going to be ;D
You're evil. Quit showing us really nice stuff!
Quote from: Cwlongshot on May 25, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
I just ordered a FTP for a future project, some fancy O rings (Crosman) and a rebuilding kit for my ORIGINAL Blue streak! I hope its a quick ship... after all this time I NEED to shoot the streak!! :P
CW
How does the rifle look since you got it back?
I am in the middle of a little change of pace for the 1377. It still has a ways to go but it's getting there.
(http://s20.postimg.org/7oc2ys4n1/Camera_ZOOM_20130525105724443.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vfbggw4u1/full/)
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Quote from: bgmcgee on May 26, 2013, 12:33:35 AM
I am in the middle of a little change of pace for the 1377. It still has a ways to go but it's getting there.
(http://s20.postimg.org/7oc2ys4n1/Camera_ZOOM_20130525105724443.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vfbggw4u1/full/)
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Awesome!!!!
WOW! That is a 1377? That looks like a Tree Rat popper to me. ;D Nice.
Quote from: bgmcgee on May 26, 2013, 12:33:35 AM
I am in the middle of a little change of pace for the 1377. It still has a ways to go but it's getting there.
(http://s20.postimg.org/7oc2ys4n1/Camera_ZOOM_20130525105724443.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vfbggw4u1/full/)
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Nice gun and nice car :-* very impressed you do real good work :)
Thanks guys. The work's easy when you buy the parts ;D
Quote from: rhg on May 25, 2013, 10:46:46 PM
just installed a TKO trigger on my 2240...It feels nice a little thin though :)
How much did it shhhh it? No $ now but my 2240 definitely needs one.
Hey Bgm that thing looks sweet a fine job indeed i'm digging the muzzle brake. :-*
Mike
Quote from: Tater on May 26, 2013, 10:21:20 AM
How much did it shhhh it? No $ now but my 2240 definitely needs one.
Looks like a MelonAir MB..
Just installed a 2 piece barrel band on the Mutt.
Very tight fit ( scratched the barrel ) very fine craftsmanship.
When I tightened it down I could see the breech / barrel move down .... :-*
I got it over at GTA ... this is the one that ED was working on with QVTom.
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=47233.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=47233.0)
Had another tinkle with the trigger and sear. Removed one of my shim (Pringles lid cut out) from trigger, reinstalled the crosman spring. Filed and dremeled the sear at touch points again.
Feels better, still not how I'd like but it does seem each time it gets a little better :D
I was looking at the hammer and that's kind of calling to me to give it a polish, is this advisable? Looks rough in the tube (viewed from below when side plate off. Thinking it will hit smoother?
I have one also Kevin.You know no pic's means it didn't happen LOL. :D ;D ;D ;D
(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/targettgii/Airgunpics028_zps790848dd.jpg) (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/targettgii/media/Airgunpics028_zps790848dd.jpg.html)
Quote from: targettgii on May 26, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
I have one also Kevin.You know no pic's means it didn't happen LOL. :D ;D ;D ;D
:( well at least I provided the link ... :-*
Quote from: Bazmati2020 on May 26, 2013, 02:25:47 PM
Had another tinkle with the trigger and sear. Removed one of my shim (Pringles lid cut out) from trigger, reinstalled the crosman spring. Filed and dremeled the sear at touch points again.
Feels better, still not how I'd like but it does seem each time it gets a little better :D
I was looking at the hammer and that's kind of calling to me to give it a polish, is this advisable? Looks rough in the tube (viewed from below when side plate off. Thinking it will hit smoother?
i always polish the hammer and use alot lighter spring
ped
Stock mod. :)
Only Kidding with you Kevin. :) I have trouble figuring out how to add links.
I saw that thread about the two-piece BB, it looked like a really cool idea. No money or I would have gotten one too. Nice to hear they work well for you.
They do Tater it's a very nice piece lite but strong.
Tried something new for my Bling On A Budget Build (BOAB). Also did my first cut and crown for the same build.
chef that is very nice work. Did the crown pass the Q-Tip test?
Carl
That cut and crown came out nice and I love what you did with the grips. :-* :-* :-*
Are you asking because your critical eye saw the little bit of fiber/hair in the photo? The crown did pass the Q-tip test, but I haven't shot any pellets through it yet.
Quote from: quickster47 on May 27, 2013, 03:54:38 AM
chef that is very nice work. Did the crown pass the Q-Tip test?
Carl
Very nice barrel work and the grip "medallions" ... fine touch :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 27, 2013, 04:08:55 AM
Are you asking because your critical eye saw the little bit of fiber/hair in the photo? The crown did pass the Q-tip test, but I haven't shot any pellets through it yet.
I did see that fuzz and stuff. One thing I have learned about macro or up close pictures is that it is best to keep a can of Dust-off or CO2 around so you can blow off the parts before taking the pictures.
Amazing what those macro lenses can see. :)
Carl
Nice work Guys. Like the stock and grips! Must have been a magnifying glass hour to get the detail and 3 colors :)
The crown looks great...bet she shoots just fine!
Quote from: ped on May 27, 2013, 02:00:12 AM
i always polish the hammer and use alot lighter spring
ped
Thanks Ped :-*
Quote from: 7624452 on May 27, 2013, 02:51:50 AM
Stock mod. :)
Look great Al!! :-*
Nice workmanship!! :)
Liking that cheek rest allot!
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 27, 2013, 03:52:35 AM
Tried something new for my Bling On A Budget Build (BOAB). Also did my first cut and crown for the same build.
The grips and crown look really nice Larry! :-*
Tell us more on how you did the inlay on the grips.
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 27, 2013, 03:52:35 AM
Tried something new for my Bling On A Budget Build (BOAB). Also did my first cut and crown for the same build.
Wow great attention to detail Larry :-* Great crown job too, how did you do it ??? I want to try a cut and crown job so bad...
I made some tools to re-seal my Sheridan!
I started pulling the action apart. I had to make a couple tools first.
1) Bolt nut removal tool. Made from a 1'' (Longer is fine) 1/4/20 set screw and two nuts threaded on the setscrew and jammed together. Then grind the threads down near the end so it fits in the hole where the bolt is.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zps6508662b.jpg)
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2) I made a Valve nut tool form a cheap 1/4'' nut driver extension. First drill the 1/4'' hex with a 9/32'' bit. Then using a grinder grind flats to from a square. Be sure to leave the corners rounded. Not allot needs to be removed to make the flats.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zps487721dc.jpg)
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3) The tool to remove the internals of the valve. Now this one I may have wrong... I drilled and tapped a piece of 1/2'' round stock 12'' long. Using a 1/4-28 tap. Then drilled a 1/4'' hole thru the other end for extra leverage.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zps5a734ea6.jpg)
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I need some clarification on the 1/4-28... My tool will not thread on. :-[
CW
Cool tools :-* There's nothing more fun than making something to get the job done!
Looks great Chef, nice work.
Acrylic paint, tiny paintbrush and one of those magnifier helmet thingys. After the paint dried, I dripped about 6 drops of clear satin polyurethane in the embossed area and let it dry. Tedious, but not too difficult.
Quote from: Brent on May 27, 2013, 05:42:31 PM
The grips and crown look really nice Larry! :-*
Tell us more on how you did the inlay on the grips.
Nice work Larry and patience! :-*
Hacksaw to cut off the tip of the 1377 barrel. I know why the word 'hack' is in the name of the saw. I used a file to level the surface. I clamped the barrel in a wood angle scrap laying around the shop, but a piece of angle iron would have been perfect for the job. The crown bevel was done with a countersink chucked to my drill. I finished with buffing compounds and felt point with the Dremel. Igt looks pretty, but could shoot like crud.
Quote from: BigErn on May 27, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
Wow great attention to detail Larry :-* Great crown job too, how did you do it ??? I want to try a cut and crown job so bad...
Quote from: Cwlongshot on May 27, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
I made some tools to re-seal my Sheridan!
I started pulling the action apart. I had to make a couple tools first.
1) Bolt nut removal tool. Made from a 1'' (Longer is fine) 1/4/20 set screw and two nuts threaded on the setscrew and jammed together. Then grind the threads down near the end so it fits in the hole where the bolt is.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zps6508662b.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zpse0dcc3cb.jpg)
2) I made a Valve nut tool form a cheap 1/4'' nut driver extension. First drill the 1/4'' hex with a 9/32'' bit. Then using a grinder grind flats to from a square. Be sure to leave the corners rounded. Not allot needs to be removed to make the flats.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zps487721dc.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zps09cc32e6.jpg)
3) The tool to remove the internals of the valve. Now this one I may have wrong... I drilled and tapped a piece of 1/2'' round stock 12'' long. Using a 1/4-28 tap. Then drilled a 1/4'' hole thru the other end for extra leverage.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zps5a734ea6.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Tools/null_zpsb6b813a6.jpg)
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I need some clarification on the 1/4-28... My tool will not thread on. :-[
CW
i think its 9/32-32 thread for pulling the valve out cw or at least thats what i was told it is
ped
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 27, 2013, 07:39:07 PM
Acrylic paint, tiny paintbrush and one of those magnifier helmet thingys. After the paint dried, I dripped about 6 drops of clear satin polyurethane in the embossed area and let it dry. Tedious, but not too difficult.
Extremely nice work Chef :-* You must have a pretty steady hand too (so I'm adding that to the list :) ).....probably helps with shooting too :-*
I had to share my many talents today...
A bit of lathe work for breakfast.
Do some laundry.
Rebuild the carb on the B&S engine for my ridin grass cutter, change the oil and put some freshly sharpened blades on it... then cut the stinking grass :-X
Tonight I'll be doing some drafting, i.e. draw some parts ideas :-*
Quote from: chongman on May 28, 2013, 01:34:00 AM
I had to share my many talents today...
A bit of lathe work for breakfast.
Do some laundry.
Rebuild the carb on the B&S engine for my ridin grass cutter, change the oil and put some freshly sharpened blades on it... then cut the stinking grass :-X
Tonight I'll be doing some drafting, i.e. draw some parts ideas :-*
Man of many talents Especially the laundry part ;D
Cut and recrowned barrel for my 1377 project from 24" down to 20". :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on May 28, 2013, 02:13:09 AM
Man of many talents Especially the laundry part ;D
Too Funny ;D ;D
Sounds like you are putting in some full days there Michael. That's just pretty darn cool :) :)
Quote from: BDS on May 22, 2013, 11:40:01 PM
Say hello to Jim Morrison and the Indian for us 8) ;D
Didnt see Morrison.... but I'm <delete>not<delete/> firmly convinced that God spends His summer sin Montana and winters in the Northwest corner of Colorado/Northeast corner of Utah.....
I should leave you guys alone more often. Lot of great stuff built while I was gone!
I took my Crosman 1600 Powermatic out to test shoot after many years in storage and it leaked gas and the trigger would not return. So I took it completely apart today for a good cleaning. The brass plunger/valve in the gas block was stuck. Cleaned/lubed/assembled and all is well.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman1600Repair_zps7f6b79e9.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman1600Repair_zps7f6b79e9.jpg.html)
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman1600Boxed_zps5360a5c3.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman1600Boxed_zps5360a5c3.jpg.html)
WOW! You did that? You're not a newbie/plinker, you are an airgun smith. That's awsom. :) I guess you don't need this.
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/C1600-EVP.pdf (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/C1600-EVP.pdf)
Quote from: mudduck48 on May 31, 2013, 12:58:37 AM
WOW! You did that? You're not a newbie/plinker, you are an airgun smith. That's awsom. :) I guess you don't need this.
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/C1600-EVP.pdf (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/C1600-EVP.pdf)
no...I saw all that stuff once I had it all apart ;) The only tricky part putting it back together was keeping the transfer bar hooked up between the trigger and BB loading gate.
Cool gun and nice job getting her shooting again. Looks like my 454s.
Mike
Quote from: rws_53 on May 31, 2013, 12:21:48 AM
I took my Crosman 1600 Powermatic out to test shoot after many years in storage and it leaked gas and the trigger would not return. So I took it completely apart today for a good cleaning. The brass plunger/valve in the gas block was stuck. Cleaned/lubed/assembled and all is well.
Glad you got it shooting! It is great that the packaging is in excellent condition.
The 1600/454 is really easy to work on, but has about the most uncomfortable trigger I can remember. Two common problems with these guns were 1) BBs not feeding smoothly, and 2) separation of the grip frame halves just aft of the CO2 screw. Treat it gently and it should work fine for years to come.
I remember them!! GOOD JOB!!
I got the tool in for the Sheridan! Five minutes I had the valve apart!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/1967%20Sheridan/8B079A69-B679-4093-911F-2F774E17D368-3872-0000059460D7EA94_zpsfd66902d.jpg)
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I found a piece of debris under the ck seat and a broken O ring under the back of the valve.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/1967%20Sheridan/14CCE0CC-5B26-441D-8164-0220FE3734A5-3872-000005946EA0C286_zps9ccaae91.jpg)
CW
I followed the good advice on here at fitted a .22LR case to the sear guide. As its a T2300 it had the brass adjuster so I had to cut case down a little, I polished and it works a treat, definitely smoother (I also put moly paste on pins)
http://instagram.com/p/Z-VnnykQi3/ (http://instagram.com/p/Z-VnnykQi3/) :-*
Simple fixes are the best Baz :-*
PS does the Firearms Enquiries Officer know that you have a .22 LR case in that air pistol?! :D ;D ;D
Lol, good point ;)
With much excitement last night I installed the standard steel breech kit on my nearly stock 1377! It went on without a hitch, mostly. But I'll start a thread for that and not mess up this one... >:(
Did a little valve swapping today. I had a pro-top and disco valve in my 2300kt so I swapped it with the stock valve out of my bnm2240. Got to say this was worth the time. The bnm2240 gained 40 fps and actually git a few more shots on target. The 2300 still shoots 630+ with 7.0 g r10's. Thinking I am liking this alot. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on June 02, 2013, 01:10:50 AM
Did a little valve swapping today. I had a pro-top and disco valve in my 2300kt so I swapped it with the stock valve out of my bnm2240. Got to say this was worth the time. The bnm2240 gained 40 fps and actually git a few more shots on target. The 2300 still shoots 630+ with 7.0 g r10's. Thinking I am liking this alot. :-*
Good parts swap, B. Next time you have the BNM gun broken down, set the probe into the barrel an peer down the transfer port. If it is like mine, that fat probe is filling @50% of the port. I started a thread about how this robbed me of @50 fps until I modded the bolt probe tip. Looking to compare notes.
I read that Chef. If I had the ability I might try thinning the tip as it is quite fat. I'm pretty happy with the valve swap results though. After I did it this morning just shooting it I could tell it made a huge improvement. It actually had a little muzzle flip on a fresh cart with 18 g jsb pellets :-*
I notice muzzle flip with the Boss valve and a fresh cartridge in my 2240. :)
:-X
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/Booster%20pump/20130517_083445_zpsa8dd3810.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/Booster%20pump/20130517_083445_zpsa8dd3810.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/Booster%20pump/20130522_100135_zpsabb29850.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/Booster%20pump/20130522_100135_zpsabb29850.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/Booster%20pump/20130523_125823_zpsa19e4f19.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/Booster%20pump/20130523_125823_zpsa19e4f19.jpg.html)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/Booster%20pump/booster_zps64d1f5f0.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/Booster%20pump/booster_zps64d1f5f0.jpg.html)
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Hmmmm... going to have to think on this one a bit...
Looks to me like it has the makings of an air regulator for filling tanks.
Carl
Whatever it is... it's H.P. for sure!
Booster pump...will allow full fills from as little as 100psi in a scuba/scba tank. Bit bigger than some variants, should be able to fill tanks if I automate it. Looks a little easier than a stirrup pump hmm?
Finished the check valve pieces this morning...assembly over lunch break. :)
The inspiration;
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8RfkDSbfE#ws]Aircraft Maintenance - Bogert Aviation Aircraft 30x Strut Pump Tool[/url]
Al
Nice Gippetto, proves there is (almost) nothing new under the sun eh? I remember using booster pumps when doing hydro-tets on pressure casings. It would sit there and cycle until we reached the burst test pressure. Similar idea, a contained bellows/diaphram of some type?
No..nothing new, just re discovered and re purposed. :)
Using a service brake chamber for a big rig....same as in the video. Took notice because I recognized what it was from an air brake course.
Al
Cool beans... ;)
Might as well bring this right up to date...I finished up a couple bits this morning, assembled over lunch and had a quick test. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/Booster%20pump/20130606_120740_zps86df6f89.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/Booster%20pump/20130606_120740_zps86df6f89.jpg.html)
Works quite well actually. Was feeding the hp end 90 psi and cycling by sticking the air hose to the diaphragm. More testing to come after I get the stand made. Four pump strokes had the fittings, gauge and dead space filled to 3000psi...gauge was climbing good when I terminated the test mid stroke.
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Gippeto that is way cool. Great job.
Carl
This be some serious stuff!
Very cool Gippeto. :-* :-* :-*
I like it!
I'm curious to see how you automate the cycling process.
Cheers,
Gippeto... what's your thoughts on direct fills to a rifle or pistol? Is there enough volume to make this a 5 min fill? 10 mins? How about the fill time on the SCBA tanks?
In the video (the red machine) there is a bypass? tube from the 100 psi inlet around to a manifold and the HP outlet, what does that do?
It's been a long time since I used the similar device for hydro-testing (air over water) but, I seem to recall being able to set the output pressure and then apply the inlet pressure (shop air) and just let the pump cycle until it reached set point. It would cycle very quickly for a few minutes with it slowly decreasing as it neared the set point. Wish I knew how that was done, my grey matter memory disc cant find that "file" ha ha.
Thanks fellas....I'm stoked to start testing it...and using it too. :)
The line running around to the hp end is feeding the hp end with 100psi...precharging the cylinder.
Cylinder volume is 38.6cc charged to 100psi...3860cc*psi. A 250cc reservoir from empty to 2900psi (200bar) is 725000cc*psi.(keeping it simple here...)
72500/3860 = 187.8 strokes of the pump. At one stroke every two seconds (might be faster, I don't know yet) that works out to 376 seconds... ~6 minutes 20 seconds.
If it were a top off situation from 100bar to 200bar, this would reduce to ~123 strokes...just over 4 minutes.
If you can feed the hp end a higher pressure, fill times will be reduced.
1000 psi into the hp end would charge the cylinder to 1000psi (will bleed past the checks until pressure equalizes) and require 12.3 strokes to top off the reservoir to 200bar. This is where such a device truly shines...getting full fills from a scuba/scba/N2 bottle even when they run down.
This is @ 100% efficiency...while efforts were made to maintain efficiency, it won't be 100%....testing needs to be done.
Adding a regulator to the diaphragm end will allow the pump to simply stall once the forces balance. Outlet pressure can be set in such a manner.
Al
Got it... seems like 85% efficiency might be a sweet spot for real world application?
AAr there any heat or friction issues based on cycle speed or duration inside that HP side of the machine?
This concept has real potential Gippeto, as of now, it makes that belt driven, ratchet noise, whirly-gig monster called a "Shoebox Compressor" pale by comparison :-*
Will be doing some testing once the stand is done to answer those questions...I want to know too. ;)
Shoebox has it's place...very well designed piece, and does not require a large compressor to run it. This thing DOES use a goodly amount of air to operate. Speed MAY be the trade off, and one I'm willing to accept.
That this will also work in the field from a fellows scuba/scba via a regulator is a bonus in my book. :)
Al
very impressive gippeto :-* really looking forward to seeing the test results
ped
Nothing as impressive as what Gipetto is working on,way cool.I rebuilt the mk1 I got last week. Went pretty well no extra parts ;D. It looked to be all original inside. Amazing it still held air. The orings were real hard and broke in half when I picked them out.To hot here to chrony it maybe tomorrow.
Had some time to shoot the mk over the chrony this morning. She picked up a few fps. With the new orings and the Timmymac valve stem it's sending 13g jsb's out at 465fps . Not to shabby.
Changed the BKL scope ring black screws to polished and deburred stainless ones..Thread is 8-32..
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Had a brass adapter made for my LW-barelled brass-inspired 2400KT made...Now the "muzzle brake" from I dunno where it came from can be screwed on ;) I have yet to test its silence :)
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crossliner, very nice. I'd have any / all of that. Never thought to bling the scope rings. Sweet!
Gippeto, When this pans out are you going to make more and $ell them? Count me interested! :-*
That is a nice touch Crossliner. 8)
Davio...What do you think a fair price would be? Assuming it pans out of course. ;)
Al
Quote from: Gippeto on June 12, 2013, 06:54:36 PM
Davio...What do you think a fair price would be? Assuming it pans out of course. ;)
Al
Parts or Paypal? ;D
I have no idea, Al. Your parts + your time + whatever extra demand allows is my usual answer and I will stick with it. And the lifetime (mine not yours) warranty would be nice, too! ;D
I just know I have stayed away from HPA entirely just because I do not want to pay for a shoebox compressor. If this thing will hook up to my compressor and pump my bulk tank that high for fills, then I am likely to enter the dark side. :)
Al... whats the cost of a new brake slave unit or the fully built unit in that Video?
My cost on the brake chamber was $42.50. I've no idea what the price on the pump in the video is, I went to the companies website, but could not find it there. Video is a couple years old...would figure its either available...or was not popular enough to warrant production costs.
http://bogertaviation.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=23 (http://bogertaviation.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=23)
Lower outlet pressure (2250psi) version they still show is $540.
Al
YA... same here, no go on that website
So let us begin, round numbers...$50 for the brake, another $50 for plumbing, devices and an actuator, $100 in labor and misc costs and were up to $200 cost. Your profit should be 50% min ($100) so, sell for $300?
Compared to high-end Hill pumps and the Shoebox, it's a bargain! :-*
A bargain...no doubt...t'would be substantially below minimum wage too. ;) I have 15 hours into the prototype....the time just adds up.
Am doing some rethinking on the design to bring the amount of labor down. The design will not be as robust, and the cylinder unfortunately will become a "wear" part needing eventual replacement. As it sits right now, there are no machined parts that wear.
Will know about check valves tomorrow....each "fitting" takes a bit over an hour to make...should be able to buy something less ideal for a reasonable price...maybe.
Automation will add easily another $100...or a simple slide valve can be ordered on ebay for <$10.
Al
Mounted a bipod on one of my project builds today while waiting on Crosman t send the rest of my stuff to compellet this build so I can show it off to all of you LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Gippeto on June 13, 2013, 02:58:41 AM
A bargain...no doubt...t'would be substantially below minimum wage too. ;) I have 15 hours into the prototype....the time just adds up.
Am doing some rethinking on the design to bring the amount of labor down. The design will not be as robust, and the cylinder unfortunately will become a "wear" part needing eventual replacement. As it sits right now, there are no machined parts that wear.
Will know about check valves tomorrow....each "fitting" takes a bit over an hour to make...should be able to buy something less ideal for a reasonable price...maybe.
Automation will add easily another $100...or a simple slide valve can be ordered on ebay for <$10.
Al
I have found over and over that the prototype or first time doing anything is at
least 2-3 times less efficient that what it will be when both batching (making several at once) and familiarity are obtained.
You do what you need to do, of course... but if the fittings are available and robust enough, why make them? Also, the automation went over my head. Do you mean a pressure sensor shutoff, perhaps (so one does not have to spend the afternoon with the unit)? Yeah, try not to make it like adding water to the swimming pool late at night! :o :(
Yeah, In this price range being bantered about I am in. Much more and I will be asking how much for the DIY plans! ;D
My 1377 with steel breech got an Anthony R (Fivestar45) extended bolt and handle installed last night. The little magnet that gently keeps it open is pretty cool, too.
Crosman Breech Kit bolt vs. Anthony's extended bolt (and one of his stainless short handle).
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m58/JeepinCalifornia/Air%20Guns/94F11AEC-7470-4A4F-9EB5-6FB76798EE1E-8241-0000049E697E4650_zpseae4f350.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/JeepinCalifornia/media/Air%20Guns/94F11AEC-7470-4A4F-9EB5-6FB76798EE1E-8241-0000049E697E4650_zpseae4f350.jpg.html)
Quote from: Davio on June 13, 2013, 04:17:43 AM... but if the fittings are available and robust enough, why make them?
To minimize cylinder head volume and keep mechanical compression ratio as high as possible....lower the CR, and the efficiency drops off fast.
Also, the automation went over my head. Do you mean a pressure sensor shutoff, perhaps
A simple pressure regulator on the supply to the diaphragm is all that's needed to control max outlet pressure. "Automation" as in the pump cycles on its own.
Thank you gents. Regards..
after messing with my 760 & 2100, made flow through bolt probes, i'm finally getting back to my 1377.
first, restore the function of the safety...i drilled out the safety spring & ball slot in the trigger frame to 1/8" & epoxyed a 1/8"o.d., 3/32 i.d. brass tubing. i had to ream the inside of the tube slightly so the ball could move freely. i can now work on the trigger parts without worrying about the safety spring & ball popping out. i had to cut off the ridge on the trigger frame cover that used to hold the safety spring & ball in place.
now back to lengthening the sear & trying to make a 2 stage trigger.
more later,
plinker99
I just started a new project i'm waiting on a frame from BF but it's not a big problem i have frames here if i don't get one. I will be using two things i have never used on a build before. And just a small hint i will be using my last 2250B tube for this pistol.
Mike
Quote from: plinker99 on June 13, 2013, 12:54:53 PM
after messing with my 760 & 2100, made flow through bolt probes, i'm finally getting back to my 1377.
first, restore the function of the safety...i drilled out the safety spring & ball slot in the trigger frame to 1/8" & epoxyed a 1/8"o.d., 3/32 i.d. brass tubing. i had to ream the inside of the tube slightly so the ball could move freely. i can now work on the trigger parts without worrying about the safety spring & ball popping out. i had to cut off the ridge on the trigger frame cover that used to hold the safety spring & ball in place.
now back to lengthening the sear & trying to make a 2 stage trigger.
more later,
plinker99
I'd like to see some pictures of the safety spring/ball tube when you get a chance.
Made some pump arm pins (the ones that hold the forearm on the 13xx) from stainless steel for a buddy this morning. I figured while I was at it, make a couple extra pairs and some trigger/sear pins also.
Quote from: chongman on June 15, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Made some pump arm pins (the ones that hold the forearm on the 13xx) from stainless steel for a buddy this morning. I figured while I was at it, make a couple extra pairs and some trigger/sear pins also.
What is the exact diameter and length of the pump arm pins Mr. CM? Thanks.
Quote from: chongman on June 15, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Made some pump arm pins (the ones that hold the forearm on the 13xx) from stainless steel for a buddy this morning. I figured while I was at it, make a couple extra pairs and some trigger/sear pins also.
Thats a great idea CMan....the brass ones I use are soft enough they get mushroomed a little :-*
Tore the 1377 apart. Starting from scratch. Got a couple of special parts coming from a buddy here. Should almost be gauntlet worthy, well the special parts are for sure. :-*
Quote from: crossliner on June 16, 2013, 02:43:38 AM
What is the exact diameter and length of the pump arm pins Mr. CM? Thanks.
These pins were made to specifications in regards to length and diameter for the shooter. If he wants to share the specs on his custom parts it's up to him, I just made some extra's in case. All I have is a brand new, never fired 1377 so I don't know what a stock roll pins measurements are as I've not taken it apart :D
Quote from: chongman on June 16, 2013, 03:27:26 AM
These pins were made to specifications in regards to length and diameter for the shooter. If he wants to share the specs on his custom parts it's up to him, I just made some extra's in case. All I have is a brand new, never fired 1377 so I don't know what a stock roll pins measurements are as I've not taken it apart :D
That's. just not right having a stock pistol there and not tearing it apart. ;D
X2
FedEx came through for me after all, yesterday... :-*
Should Crosman's Steel Breech kit for the .22 come with a shorter rear screw, like the .17 breech kit does?
I put a steel breech on my Backpacker. It's an odd fit in the back, as cocking feels tight and it feels as though the hammer 'just' catches. It also random releases the hammer when pumping, dumping most but not all of the air. Cock, pump, load, yes?
I'll break her down, inspect for anything obvious and put her back together.
edit: after some searching, it seems that the kit was short the necessary shorter screw. Dremel time.
Sounds like the rear breech screw is a bit to long and crushing the hammer spring. Grind a bit off and check the length by looking at it in place without the tube cap on. It should only stick down into the tube about 1/8"
Rich
Quote from: chongman on June 16, 2013, 03:27:26 AM
These pins were made to specifications in regards to length and diameter for the shooter. If he wants to share the specs on his custom parts it's up to him, I just made some extra's in case. All I have is a brand new, never fired 1377 so I don't know what a stock roll pins measurements are as I've not taken it apart :D
Taken care of now sir Mr. BGM has already pm'ed me thanks to both of you :-*
Took a quick trip to Ace Hardware today and got a few button head, Allen screws and replaced the stock rear breech screws on my 1377 and 2289. This was motivated by the lack of a shorter replacement screw in a Crosman steel breech kit. As correctly suggested early today on CAPOF, the stock screw was too long and was giving the hammer spring a bad time...
I like the look and the positive feel of the new screws with the Allen wrench so I'll go through and replace what I can - a cheap, fun project. Stainless for the 1377.
Finally got the Outdoorsman look-alike finished yesterday. Also, swapped out the .22 barrel for a .177 LW barrel on my pistol..
I will post a thread on it in the Gallery later when I get a chance and some photos taken.
Rich
The 2289 got a Chavka barrel band. It needed a little modifying to fit (the holes were off a bit) but it's in there and looking/working well.
I also tried a CenterPoint 4-16x40 Mildot scope. Wally's didn't have the rings I would need for it, so it didn't all go together. It was close enough for a mock up, and while I liked the scope well enough, I'll be continuing the search for something a little shorter, lighter, more aesthetically balanced.
Just remembered this morning that I had bought a set of tap and dies a few weeks ago, so I decided to tap my new doofer with a 4-48 tap and used a breech screw to secure my tru glo sight.
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/geordiedoofer2.jpg)
First time I have done that so I am quite proud :-*
Quote from: droid on June 18, 2013, 03:18:54 PM
Just remembered this morning that I had bought a set of tap and dies a few weeks ago, so I decided to tap my new doofer with a 4-48 tap and used a breech screw to secure my tru glo sight.
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/geordiedoofer2.jpg)
First time I have done that so I am quite proud :-*
Good job on your first tap Gary :-* :-* I love tapping stuff...
Looks great!
made a rubber stamp to make cheap targets. used a pop bottle cap, o-ring & a piece of a pentel eraser.
shot this one with my 760 @ 10 yards. 7 pumps @ 600fps with cphp. i did not chrony the pointed hunting pellets.
Quote from: plinker99 on June 19, 2013, 11:34:24 AM
made a rubber stamp to make cheap targets. used a pop bottle cap, o-ring & a piece of a pentel eraser.
shot this one with my 760 @ 10 yards. 7 pumps @ 600fps with cphp. i did not chrony the pointed hunting pellets.
good job!
Cool idea with the stamp, Plinker :-*
I may have to "borrow" that idea myself ;) ;D...sure beats the hell out of tracing a dime umpteen dozen times like I'm doing now!
Nice shootin' too, btw! :-* :-*
Quote from: HappyHunter on June 19, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
Cool idea with the stamp, Plinker :-*
I may have to "borrow" that idea myself ;) ;D...sure beats the hell out of tracing a dime umpteen dozen times like I'm doing now!
Nice shootin' too, btw! :-* :-*
you know!
Ingenuity :-*
Putting your stamp on the world! Mind if I use the same idea?
Rich
Much cool idea !!! :-*
Finished milling the slots on my 2240 Lite tube to 0.5". No significant weight savings as they were 0.485" but they are more uniform and clean looking now.
Carl
Added white paint to the rear sight of my IPAS Colt
http://instagram.com/p/avTd1jkQol/ (http://instagram.com/p/avTd1jkQol/)
Quote from: plinker99 on June 19, 2013, 11:34:24 AM
made a rubber stamp to make cheap targets. used a pop bottle cap, o-ring & a piece of a pentel eraser.
shot this one with my 760 @ 10 yards. 7 pumps @ 600fps with cphp. i did not chrony the pointed hunting pellets.
Awesome! I did the same thing this weekend (didn't use an eraser for the middle: excellent idea!).
I found that I like bright colored paper, as I can the whole better than through white paper.
I had a clever target idea also today I think. ???
(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/targettgii/Airgunpics038_zpsd71cdc36.jpg) (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/targettgii/media/Airgunpics038_zpsd71cdc36.jpg.html)
Quote from: targettgii on June 20, 2013, 02:36:10 AM
I had a clever target idea also today I think. ???
(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/targettgii/Airgunpics038_zpsd71cdc36.jpg) (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/targettgii/media/Airgunpics038_zpsd71cdc36.jpg.html)
Me likes :-*
Good idea i also like to shoot at the holes in CDs.
Mike
Look what I made for my son Mike. What is it? ??? It's a squirrel feeder. ;D You screw it to the fence and feed the squirrels.
Beautiful Duck... :D :-*
That's cool as ice Duck! 8)
Quote from: mudduck48 on June 21, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
Look what I made for my son Mike. What is it? ??? It's a squirrel feeder. ;D You screw it to the fence and feed the squirrels.
First of all, I am SO GLAD that it is a squirrel feeder and not a bathroom accessory. :D :D ;D
Would that be considered game baiting? Thought so. ;) I LIKE THIS! :-*
I think I will just go ahead and paint mine red... you know??? :D
Quote from: mudduck48 on June 21, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
Look what I made for my son Mike. What is it? ??? It's a squirrel feeder. ;D You screw it to the fence and feed the squirrels.
That is cool. Can we get an "action shot" with critters dining at their favorite table?
Thank you, thank you. This is going to my son's house 125 miles from me. I'll ask him to take pics of the feeder in action, IF, I can find the corn on the cobs. I called Pet Smart where I bought corn before and they do not carry it anymore. I called other pet stores and a feed and grain place, no cobs. I did find some on ebay. That is what I might have to do to get some cobs. Here is the pic of the squirrel in my sons back yard. And another pic of the finished feeder.
San Diego-ish? or Central Ca?
Cool feeder, but man are those chairs gonna get shot up.
It will look like a crime scene. ;D
Quote from: BDS on June 21, 2013, 11:58:28 PM
San Diego-ish? or Central Ca?
He lives in Anaheim hills off the 91 freeway. Look at the picture and you are looking accross the Santa Anna river at Yorba Linda.
that's so cool mudduck!
if I had one it would be called the last supper
Quote from: 1377x on June 22, 2013, 04:48:47 AM
that's so cool mudduck!
if I had one it would be called the last supper
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
In reading about my new to me ''scope eating Walther Talon Magnum" :-X :-X :-X
In preparation later next week for the Talons arrival. I decided instead of mounting the BSA that ''should'' be strong enough. I am going to swap the Hawke from the long bow. Hawke has a very good reputation as a magnum proof springer scope. So until I buy a better one, the Long bow gets a 2x7 BSA air rifle scope.
CW
Duck look in Wal-mart for those corn cobs they would be in with the birdseed in the lawn&garden dept.Oh yeah nice dining arrangement for the condemned rats last meal :) :) :)
Thanks for the heads up on Walmart, but I bought 35 cobs on ebay. I will tell my son about walmart when he runs out of cobs. Around these parts we think the tree rats are cute. I don't think he will shoot them. Although, he does have the 2289G bug out kit and it is right on the money with the Crosman HP pellets. This is his target at 5m.
Quote from: mudduck48 on June 21, 2013, 09:21:27 PM
Thank you, thank you. This is going to my son's house 125 miles from me. I'll ask him to take pics of the feeder in action, IF, I can find the corn on the cobs. I called Pet Smart where I bought corn before and they do not carry it anymore. I called other pet stores and a feed and grain place, no cobs. I did find some on ebay. That is what I might have to do to get some cobs. Here is the pic of the squirrel in my sons back yard. And another pic of the finished feeder.
Corn on the cob is all over the place here and usually pretty cheap. Its fresh corn of coarse. PM me I can fill a flat rate postal box and send it off to you if you would like. PM me we can set it up.
CW
Quote from: Cwlongshot on June 23, 2013, 02:57:13 AM
Corn on the cob is all over the place here and usually pretty cheap. Its fresh corn of coarse. PM me I can fill a flat rate postal box and send it off to you if you would like. PM me we can set it up.
CW
Thanks for the offer,I'll keep that in mind. ;)
Yeah they are cute and they taste good also. :D ;D ;D ;D
Today I worked...hard!
Cut the grass (on the rider), trimmed, buzzed the hedges and swept the sidewalk out front. No metal work today but I have been thinking and drawing 8)
This is my 2240 so far.
It has an Anthony R. breech and magnetic bolt.
The handle is from Chongman.
An EBay power adjuster.
Red dot off my P17 and some 1377 grips.
A light trigger spring is on the inside and sear and trigger have been polished and lubed.
It really is quite the shooter now.
The next step will be a muzzle brake cause it is loud.
I found some old tropical hardwood 1" blanks in the garage and may try to fashion out a brake on my wood lathe.
I still prefer my pumpers but this is still a very fun gun.
Got my 1377 "Raider" back together thanks to the fine parts from Chongman's machinewerks :-*
Quote from: mudduck48 on June 22, 2013, 03:09:19 AM
He lives in Anaheim hills off the 91 freeway. Look at the picture and you are looking accross the Santa Anna river at Yorba Linda.
Thought it looked familiar, used to live in Brea
I've been going crazy with my new Dremel tool. I've polished the sears and hammers on my 1377 and 2240. I also trimmed some threads off the inside of the valve on my 2240. I wanted to angle the valve hole but I don't have the right drill bit for it. :(
I use a dremel 7123 diamond wheel point attachment to relieve the valve port angle - its the perfect size and cuts the aluminum easy
Some folks drill it but thats hard to do by hand....
Quote from: agninja on June 24, 2013, 03:09:48 PM
I've been going crazy with my new Dremel tool. I've polished the sears and hammers on my 1377 and 2240. I also trimmed some threads off the inside of the valve on my 2240. I wanted to angle the valve hole but I don't have the right drill bit for it. :(
Good job!!! :P :P :P :P :P
CW
no drill bit for angling my exhaust port either
I us this ball grinder thing its a dremel bit with a ball on the end cant recall the name of it
just keep an eye on the valve stem seat don't want to knick that. it wont seal the valve if it gets nicked or gouged
Quote from: 1377x on June 25, 2013, 04:12:46 AM
just keep an eye on the valve stem seat don't want to knick that. it wont seal the valve if it gets nicked or gouged
+1 Yep :-* put one in the parts graveyard just to learn that :o
Quote from: willc on June 23, 2013, 08:39:41 PM
This is my 2240 so far.
It has an Anthony R. breech and magnetic bolt.
The handle is from Chongman.
An EBay power adjuster.
Red dot off my P17 and some 1377 grips.
A light trigger spring is on the inside and sear and trigger have been polished and lubed.
It really is quite the shooter now.
The next step will be a muzzle brake cause it is loud.
I found some old tropical hardwood 1" blanks in the garage and may try to fashion out a brake on my wood lathe.
I still prefer my pumpers but this is still a very fun gun.
Coming along nicely. Put some new grips on that and ready for beauty review!
I'm interested to see your wooden brake! Please post pics when you got it all done. Thanks for sharing.
ALOT of polishing ;)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img197/8716/rv.JPG)
Looks great Big E :-*
Good God, man, how did you get the knurled part of the end cap so clean?!?
Wicked looking Ernesto :-*
Must be parts for a secret project :D
Looking for my shades Big E 8) 8) very nice :-*
Nice job Ernesto 8) 8)
now they are shiney ern you've certainly more patience than me
top work as allways
ped
WoW ... nice ... :-\ .... :-*
Thanks guys! Polishing that tube was NOT fun. I don't think I will be doing another one of those for a long long time :D It looks even better than the pics since the auto focus went straight to the co2 cap. The cap was also alot of work, I even polished the stem, my thumbs are killing me ;D
excellent work BE
we used to have a polished gun thread here looks like it needs to be revived with all these polished guns around here
anyone who has a gun that meets the criteria please post here
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,3609.msg34890.html#msg34890 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,3609.msg34890.html#msg34890)
Quote from: WyoMan on June 25, 2013, 06:04:09 AM
+1 Yep :-* put one in the parts graveyard just to learn that :o
how bad was it hit?
they can be saved if its not to bad
my brass valve in my phase 2 1377 had the seat gouged by a bad brass valve stem. it would not seal to save my life. learned a trade secret now that same damaged valve is holding air like a champ and now it is using a new style white hat valve stem. doesn't have the power I was getting from the brass valve stem but still respectable
i bought a 2250 that some one had nicked the sealing lip whilst trying to angle the port my soloution was to use valve grinding paste and an AA battery
i spun the valve in the lathe and used the +ve end ot the battery with valve grinding paste on to reform the sealing lip
seems to have done the trick is it similar to how you did it ed?
ped
Quote from: ped on June 26, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
now they are shiney ern you've certainly more patience than me
top work as allways
ped
X2. Superb finish, BigE. I have done a few polish jobs but seemed to never quite get to the true mirror finish.
Quote from: ped on June 26, 2013, 09:30:24 PM
i bought a 2250 that some one had nicked the sealing lip whilst trying to angle the port my soloution was to use valve grinding paste and an AA battery
i spun the valve in the lathe and used the +ve end ot the battery with valve grinding paste on to reform the sealing lip
seems to have done the trick is it similar to how you did it ed?
ped
I used a piece of fiberglass arrow shaft works like a charm.
Man Ern that looks great nice job
Quote from: 1377x on June 26, 2013, 08:13:49 PM
how bad was it hit?
they can be saved if its not to bad
my brass valve in my phase 2 1377 had the seat gouged by a bad brass valve stem. it would not seal to save my life. learned a trade secret now that same damaged valve is holding air like a champ and now it is using a new style white hat valve stem. doesn't have the power I was getting from the brass valve stem but still respectable
Bad enough that I had to tear it down twice when it wouldn't seal....thats the problem with a valve leak (complete teardown)
Might have tried to save it if it was brass but I have over 20 valve pieces parts in aluminum and I mix and match them to get the best fit with the tube...
Oops whats going on here?
Looks like I had to kill an evil check valve:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322Mag/stuffedcheck1_zps591066f4.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/1322Mag/stuffedcheck1_zps591066f4.jpg.html)
Or maybe its a mod to reduce inlet headspace ???
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322Mag/stuffedcheck2_zpsa04c53cd.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/1322Mag/stuffedcheck2_zpsa04c53cd.jpg.html)
Can't say everything now....more to follow....but it works if you like a 14 fps, 0.5 fpe gain :)
I have seen threads on that mod before. this is the first time I actually saw someone do it and post results
might have a stab at it since I have a few check valves laying around
simple enough to do if you can get it lined up with the center, I heated the pin and just pushed it in about a 1/4"
Then pulled it out and super glued the pin and pushed it back in
cut the pin so it was 1/16" short of protruding thru the inlet opening and polished the cut end
Testing now to make sure that it is secure......
i've always had a few issues with my as2250 that i've fitted hpa tanks to when you add the adapter, on/offvalve, tank and a butt plate the distance from the butt to the trigger always seems too long
i tried a crosmods adapter and the length is much better but with the bottle being inline with the main tube you really have to fit scope raiser blocks to get a good cheek weld or use a raised breech like the crosmods one
so today i 've had a few hours in the crosmaniacs lab aka "the shed" and come up with this shortened version and adapter
i've retapped the back of the front part of the 88g adapter block and fitted a shortened paintball adapter,ive still got to pressure test it yet but need to wait 24hrs for the sealer to cure(i'm also using a dowty seal aswell)
if this works i'm going to try to machine an on/off adapter to fit the crosman adapter block and do away with the paintball adapter not saving anymore distance but having the ability to shut the hpa tank off and still be the same length
ped
Quote from: ped on June 28, 2013, 04:05:03 PM
i've always had a few issues with my as2250 that i've fitted hpa tanks to when you add the adapter...
Watching this project with interest. The adapter modification surely made a difference in the LOP.
Ped in the shed ;) (As confirmed on the UK forum)
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/mad.jpg)
Is that one of those Coalhouse breeches of the bay Ped ?
it is gary there not bad but i found i had to do a bit of fine tuning on the bolt to get it lock down properly and it's got a spring and ball bearing in the probe to hold the bolt open ,i've had to nip the spring down a bit as it was pushing it off to one side and still needs a wiggle to line it up with the leade
i'm going to add another spring and ball at the back of the probe to balance it out
i've also found that the scope dovetails are a funny size and i'm struggling to find mounts that fit without cockling but apart from these little niggles its a well made piece of kit
ped
I started some valve work for a build today with some advice from Barry (bgmcgee). The man graciously hooked me up with a disco valve to go with a Pro-Top. The valve blocks the air exit hole in the tube. I was going to just file a flat where the red dot is but it was so much easier to just spin it in the lathe...less manual labor!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Machine%20Werks/Machine%20Parts/valve_zps809ebec2.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/chongman1/media/Machine%20Werks/Machine%20Parts/valve_zps809ebec2.jpg.html)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Machine%20Werks/Machine%20Parts/valve2_zps23ad5161.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/chongman1/media/Machine%20Werks/Machine%20Parts/valve2_zps23ad5161.jpg.html)
I turned down the valve retaining screw in my trusty cordless Dremel with a file.
Nice work on that valve Michael. :-*
Thats looking pretty good CM I like that set up :-*
good job chong!
if you gun has the forward breech screw hole I think what you did would clear that hole too
Nice work Michael, and that solves the forward breech screw from hitting the valve it that is what you are using.
Just stripped the dream gun this morning, added a custom SS P Rod hammer, kindly made by my mate Ped :-*
While apart I treated it to a reblue, black rebolt kit (previously SS) and topped off with a new doofer.
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/dgnew2.jpg)
Quote from: droid on June 30, 2013, 04:27:45 PM
Just stripped the dream gun this morning, added a custom SS P Rod hammer, kindly made by my mate Ped :-*
While apart I treated it to a reblue, black rebolt kit (previously SS) and topped off with a new doofer.
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/dgnew2.jpg)
Dang Mr. D what muzzlebrake is that it looks great? And so does the gun of course :-*
It's a MWSS, one made by my buddy Matt here in the UK, he does all my custom ones (to my dimensions) and is always happy to undertake other custom jobs if you wish to deviate from his standard ones.
Made from Delrin and very quiet, albeit it is a sealed unit. His doofers have just featured in one of our UK airgun magazines too with a very favorable write up.
If you need more details Mr C or any of you other guys let me know, as you know I will be happy to reship to my buddies :-*
Just plain outstanding, Gary. I think the Stace breech, Rick's grips and the custom doofer really make this wonderful. Of course, if it shoots straight, that would be an added bonus.
Sharp looking pistol Gary, aggressive stance :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on June 30, 2013, 04:52:02 PM
Just plain outstanding, Gary. I think the Stace breech, Rick's grips and the custom doofer really make this wonderful. Of course, if it shoots straight, that would be an added bonus.
Cheers Larry, trust me it is not the gun that can't shoot straight ;)
Seriously though, with the breech, P Rod Trigger etc.. this feels real quality, like I assume a real one feels like. Good weight and no slop anywhere. Gives you the same feeling as when you shut a prestige car door, something very reassuring about it.
Wow Gary that is one fine gun Mr! Loving that Doofer :-\ :-\ :-*
Quote from: BigErn on June 30, 2013, 05:03:15 PM
Wow Gary that is one fine gun Mr! Loving that Doofer :-\ :-\ :-*
Cheers Ern :-* Yes it is a couple of inches shorter than my usual ones, it just suited the gun so I kept it on. I bought it with a 2240 last week by chance.
Well Mr. Gary looks like you're never going to be happy, most people would have been more than satisfied before your latest mods. I have no idea of what you could do to make it better but then I'm not quite, wait for it,--------- A big show off like you LOL. In all seriousness another fine project, thanks for sharing. Now quit fooling around and get back to work so you can afford to build something new.
Lee
Beautiful and clean droid :-* excellent build with high quality work!
I modded another check valve with a safety pin since the first one worked real good and shows no problems
here's what it looks like assembled:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322XL/checkmod_zps7c2633a4.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/1322XL/checkmod_zps7c2633a4.jpg.html)
will test this later today to get results :)
Today, I removed the red dot from my 1377 carbine and replaced it with a old Tasco 4X tactile compac tactical scope with a dot. Then I added a side mounted Red Laser Designator.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%201377/218A500D-7EEE-4A6C-A440-7FAFC285B3F1-4425-00000641E7338F01_zpsb7d6d18c.jpg)
It a absolute laser, drilling one hole groups!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%201377/6E1C723D-64FD-4BFB-A02B-7241CDCECC5B-4425-00000641F5D1BE69_zps9056da3f.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%201377/B2CF71EF-186E-4D73-AFC9-6F1866365224-4425-00000641EF47F60E_zpsfb3c2a9e.jpg)
CW
Quote from: Cwlongshot on June 30, 2013, 07:47:13 PM
Today I removed the red dot form mt 1377 carbine and replaced it with a old Tasco 4X tactile scope with a dot...It a absolute laser!!
I hear tactile scopes will do that. Looks very dangerous.
didn't think the stace gun could get any better ,but you've managed it well done mate
i've spent all afternoon messing with a 2260 that really wanted to be a disco been doing thre bstayley mod but think i might try it without
i've just made tp bush with a 1.6mm bore(normal one filled with solder then redrilled) as the smallest one i had was a 2.75mm one and was well over our limit with a bell curve like a rainbow
ped
Quote from: breakfastchef on June 30, 2013, 08:01:07 PM
I hear tactile tactical scopes will do that. Looks very dangerous.
I just LOVE the iPhone speller... :o :o :o :o
If you don't know about it, it spells and INSERTS the respelled words... Be-careful, if you don't check before you post... The grammar cops get ya! ;) ;)
CW
Just replaced the grip frame screws, and the rear breech screw with stainless socket head screws on my 2300T. It's nice to be able to remove the grip frame with a hex wrench.
Quote from: droid on June 30, 2013, 04:27:45 PM
Just stripped the dream gun this morning, added a custom SS P Rod hammer, kindly made by my mate Ped :-*
While apart I treated it to a reblue, black rebolt kit (previously SS) and topped off with a new doofer.
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/dgnew2.jpg)
Droid can you point me in the direction to learn about that breech that is? Is there a thread somewhere detailing that build? Thx :-*
That is a Stacy Grant breech..To get one is not that easy....My bad a Grant Stace breech sorry :D
Quote from: kraaash on July 01, 2013, 03:26:44 AM
Droid can you point me in the direction to learn about that breech that is? Is there a thread somewhere detailing that build? Thx :-*
Yes as Mr C says, this is a Grant Stace breech, also available in very limited numbers in brass too, which I would swap a kidney for.
To get this one i had to buy a complete gun from over there in the States. It was always, and still is the ultimate breech for me. I feel very lucky to have it and this one will get buried with me.
To get one you will just have to keep an eye on the classified ads, assuming I don't see it first ;)
I cut the top of a 2240/50/60 valve off and tapped it out 1/8 npt. Then I installed a macroline adapter on the valve. Running air directly from a 13ci air source to the valve with no pressure in the tube, just inside the valve.
Quote from: akula8608 on July 02, 2013, 07:01:55 AM
I cut the top of a 2240/50/60 valve off and tapped it out 1/8 npt. Then I installed a macroline adapter on the valve. Running air directly from a 13ci air source to the valve with no pressure in the tube, just inside the valve.
Where does the macroline tubing exit the air tube? Did you drill out the old CO2 cap? Just trying to picture this in my mind. I assume you are running your pressures <850 psi, too.
Quote from: droid on June 30, 2013, 04:27:45 PM
Just stripped the dream gun this morning, added a custom SS P Rod hammer, kindly made by my mate Ped :-*
While apart I treated it to a reblue, black rebolt kit (previously SS) and topped off with a new doofer.
(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/dgnew2.jpg)
Where did you get that barrel band??
Quote from: Baltim0re28 on July 02, 2013, 03:32:47 PM
Where did you get that barrel band??
That is Grant Stace one James, it comes with the breech.
the dream gun is looking good droid
I came very close to owning a stace breech myself ;)
Quote from: 1377x on July 02, 2013, 05:33:18 PM
the dream gun is looking good droid
I came very close to owning a stace breech myself ;)
Yuupppp!! It took some help that one eh ED :-*
You all probably know I lose interest quite quickly in projects but this one is just another level. Every time i hold it I get a rush :)
Does Stace still make breaches and other parts? I can never find a website. ???
Quote from: Davio on July 03, 2013, 01:21:30 AM
Does Stace still make breaches and other parts? I can never find a website. ???
He does make many fine part. He also is an avid collector of vintage air arms and pellet tins. He does not have a website. His client list is small and, as I understand, he is not taking on new customers. If you want a taste of the fine work he does, go here...
http://www.network54.com/Forum/576012/ (http://www.network54.com/Forum/576012/)
Quote from: Davio on July 03, 2013, 01:21:30 AM
Does Stace still make breaches and other parts? I can never find a website. ???
I have his contact info around here somewhere. If I find it I will PM you. ;)
Tried my hand at some grip making.Nothing new or special here,but a fun project none the less.I don't have tools to do anything in wood,so I made a set with the materials I had. I used to make 1/5 scale carbon fiber composite bodies for RC cars,"such as HPI's Baja 5B"and had some high quality epoxy resin left over.It's extremely tough stuff.The cure time is slow though,it's about 3 days to reach full hardness.Not a problem for me though.The slow cure nature of the resin helps because it is self degassing,so there are no air bubbles in the grip."No pressure pot required".These are a solid thickness version "non hollow"of the standard black grips,but with less stippling,and no funky fake wood grain pattern.They are not painted,I have some black resin tint,which was added to the epoxy.I will also be hydro dipping this pair in a black carbon fiber pattern,and finish them off with a few coats high end urethane automotive clear.They fit absolutely perfect,with no slippage.They look kind of rough in the pictures because they are scuffed up,and being prepped for dipping.In the future I will make an actual set from resin,and layers of carbon fiber..should be pretty cool.
Those came out really nice. :-* :-* :-*
Done a little work on my 2240 today! The valve was moving back to front a very little, so I took an old port seal and put it in the screw that holds the valve in place and now NO more movement. Nice little cheep way to stop the movement!! :)
Nice job Trophy.....good to have the valve secured :-*
Thank you Sir :) I didn't know if it would work but it did! :) :)
Nice job Mark. That's cool stuff! :-*
Thanks guys :) Had to find a way to relieve symptoms of my Crosmanitis.Restless figeting,looking at things,and seeing if you can turn them into a new part..yup you guys know about that one.Glad I'm not the only one afflicted hahaha.Even better when you can make something from what you have on hand..
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on July 04, 2013, 02:43:09 AM
Done a little work on my 2240 today! The valve was moving back to front a very little, so I took an old port seal and put it in the screw that holds the valve in place and now NO more movement. Nice little cheep way to stop the movement!! :)
Good Job! Simple yet effective...way to go. :-*
Quote from: Mark5043 on July 04, 2013, 02:26:55 AM
Tried my hand at some grip making.Nothing new or special here,but a fun project none the less.I don't have tools to do anything in wood,so I made a set with the materials I had. I used to make 1/5 scale carbon fiber composite bodies for RC cars,"such as HPI's Baja 5B"and had some high quality epoxy resin left over.It's extremely tough stuff.The cure time is slow though,it's about 3 days to reach full hardness.Not a problem for me though.The slow cure nature of the resin helps because it is self degassing,so there are no air bubbles in the grip."No pressure pot required".These are a solid thickness version "non hollow"of the standard black grips,but with less stippling,and no funky fake wood grain pattern.They are not painted,I have some black resin tint,which was added to the epoxy.I will also be hydro dipping this pair in a black carbon fiber pattern,and finish them off with a few coats high end urethane automotive clear.They fit absolutely perfect,with no slippage.They look kind of rough in the pictures because they are scuffed up,and being prepped for dipping.In the future I will make an actual set from resin,and layers of carbon fiber..should be pretty cool.
Great Job!!!!! They look awesome!!
Grips look fantastic Mark. I'm a carbon fiber nut so I'll be watching as you work :-*
Thanks guys.I'm with you on that Chongman.I really like CF stuff as well.I'm waiting on another shipment of hydrographic film,and activator,so this set should be done sometime next week.Hopefully I can get around to doing a set in actual CF pretty soon.If I can remember correctly I should have a few feet of CF,and Kevlar weave fabric somewhere in storage.I'll have to check.It would make a crazy tough set of grips no doubt.
Nothing spectacular just a little polishing and sanding. I got an Anthony R. short breech from Chongman and polished it up a little. Also got a R.B. super pumper in and did some sanding and staining on it. Thought I would make the pumper less machined looking, smoothed out the lines a little. I like it. :-*
Here is the polish job
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705130748799_zpse1e48d5a.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705130748799_zpse1e48d5a.jpg.html)
And here is the pumper,before after and with one coat of black stain
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705130734145_zps3059fa2a.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705130734145_zps3059fa2a.jpg.html)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705134151587_zpscec08b13.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705134151587_zpscec08b13.jpg.html)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705140628099_zps237e3bd9.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705140628099_zps237e3bd9.jpg.html)
Nice work..Looks Great! :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on July 05, 2013, 11:22:28 PM
Nothing spectacular just a little polishing and sanding. I got an Anthony R. short breech from Chongman and polished it up a little. Also got a R.B. super pumper in and did some sanding and staining on it. Thought I would make the pumper less machined looking, smoothed out the lines a little. I like it. :-*
Here is the polish job
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705130748799_zpse1e48d5a.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705130748799_zpse1e48d5a.jpg.html)
And here is the pumper,before after and with one coat of black stain
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705130734145_zps3059fa2a.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705130734145_zps3059fa2a.jpg.html)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705134151587_zpscec08b13.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705134151587_zpscec08b13.jpg.html)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705140628099_zps237e3bd9.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705140628099_zps237e3bd9.jpg.html)
Cracking job on that pumper. They should be sold like that.
Quote from: bgmcgee on July 05, 2013, 11:22:28 PM
Nothing spectacular just a little polishing and sanding. I got an Anthony R. short breech from Chongman and polished it up a little. Also got a R.B. super pumper in and did some sanding and staining on it. Thought I would make the pumper less machined looking, smoothed out the lines a little. I like it. :-*
Here is the polish job
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705130748799_zpse1e48d5a.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705130748799_zpse1e48d5a.jpg.html)
And here is the pumper,before after and with one coat of black stain
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705130734145_zps3059fa2a.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705130734145_zps3059fa2a.jpg.html)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705134151587_zpscec08b13.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705134151587_zpscec08b13.jpg.html)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130705140628099_zps237e3bd9.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130705140628099_zps237e3bd9.jpg.html)
Nice!! Love the polished breech :-\ Anyone have luck polishing a Crosman steel breech?
Thanks Gary and Big E. Coming from 2 of the best here that means alot. I do like the looks of the handle better but i know why Ralph doesn't do that it would really drive the price up. I tried buffing the top , it got shiny but lots of milling swirls. Guess if I spent more time and did some sanding it might smooth out.Might have to play with the one I took off.
Hey Big E how about this. Crosman short steel breech and about 10 Minutes on the buffing wheel.
(http://s20.postimg.org/c3vsl1iwt/Camera_ZOOM_20130705171446951.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3ydqmvunt/full/)
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[quote author=bgmcgee link=topic=9044.msg151973#msg151973 date=1373059348 Also got a R.B. super pumper in and did some sanding and staining on it. Thought I would make the pumper less machined looking, smoothed out the lines a little. I like it. :-*
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Nice mod on Ralph's pump arm. Now all it needs is a BChef palm rest!! One day I will get one of you guys to try it.
Outstandin Barry, the pump arm looks soo much better smoothed out and in black!
That pump looks excellent Barry,and that breech is polished very nicely. 8) 8) 8)
Thank ya Michael. After a few more staining sessions it should be ready for the custom Chongman's stainless pump pins. ;)
Quote from: bgmcgee on July 06, 2013, 04:03:02 AM
Thank ya Michael. After a few more staining sessions it should be ready for the custom Chongman's stainless pump pins. ;)
Nice work mr mcgee.....the ss dowel pins are a great idea :-*
Quote from: WyoMan on July 06, 2013, 04:10:46 AM
Nice work mr mcgee.....the ss dowel pins are a great idea :-*
Thought they would look better with the black and silver of my 1377 than the brass. Plus I had Michael make them a Tad long so they would be proud of the wood. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on July 06, 2013, 02:23:00 AM
Hey Big E how about this. Crosman short steel breech and about 10 Minutes on the buffing wheel.
(http://s20.postimg.org/c3vsl1iwt/Camera_ZOOM_20130705171446951.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3ydqmvunt/full/)
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Wow!!! That looks really good :-*
Yes she does :-*
I was pleasantly surprised that the breech polished up so well. I need to work on the top some more to see if I can get. the mill marks out. Then it's dremel time for the tight spots. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on July 06, 2013, 02:23:00 AM
Hey Big E how about this. Crosman short steel breech and about 10 Minutes on the buffing wheel.
Very nice. Different grades of steel polishes easier I suppose.
To divert the topic briefly: is that the mounting screw hole on the bolt side under the bolt of the loading area? Or does the Crosman short breech fit a 1377/Pc77 without further modding? For the short breech is a shorter bolt necessary? I was under the impression long or short the holes are the same location, and bolt same. So, in short, I am confused :-[.
The short breech is only available with CCS breech screw location (farther from barrel). It would require that a 13xx tube be made to accept it.
Quote from: Davio on July 06, 2013, 03:54:53 PM
The short breech is only available with CCS breech screw location (farther from barrel). It would require that a 13xx tube be made to accept it.
Thank you. Makes sense now.
Some time back I made an adapter to mount a globe sight on the front of my 160. Since then it has always listed a little to starboard. Turns out the tapped hole in the barrel for the front sight was off center to the barrel.
Here is the mount when I first made and installed it.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Cr160/Cr160Aperture.jpg)
I offset the counter-bore for the screw on the mill using a rotary table, so that the bottom of the counter-bore would follow the radius of the barrel. The smaller hole I just took a file to. While I was at it I painted it black.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Cr160/GlobeMountOffset.jpg)
Here it is installed and standing up straight, finally.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Cr160/GlobeMountOffsetInstalled.jpg)
That turned out nice YSYEO :-* nice machine work!
Quote from: WyoMan on July 07, 2013, 02:32:46 AM
That turned out nice YSYEO :-* nice machine work!
Thanks. It was bugging me, and it was an excuse to use the rotary table, which probably hasn't been used in 10 years.
Fantastic machine work :-*
Nice job YSYEO :-* :-*
Worked on my two SECRET projects today!! It want be long befor they are posted on the guantlet page ;) ;) Also hand loaded some bp today,.223 .357 .38 30-30 and 30-60
Got my Custom Shop 2300KT on Friday from Crosman...polished the sear, put some chongman trigger/sear pin shims in, reduced the trigger pull adjustment and set trigger over travel screw.. Now to do some test firing. :-*
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on July 07, 2013, 02:58:51 AM
Worked on my two SECRET projects today!! It want be long befor they are posted on the guantlet page ;) ;) Also hand loaded some bp today,.223 .357 .38 30-30 and 30-60
A busy day for sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!
That looks great Mr. McGee. :-*
I can't believe it only took 10 minutes. I needs me a buffing wheel.
I just made a cooler holder out of the PA pellet packaging. ??? Hot glue gun.
Great idea! :-* :-* :-*
I just KNEW they could be used for something. :-*
I think I tossed them anyway. :(
Quote from: mudduck48 on July 07, 2013, 06:58:28 PM
I just made a cooler holder out of the PA pellet packaging. ??? Hot glue gun.
Well ain't that just ducky. ;D ;D :-* I like it.
Quote from: mudduck48 on July 07, 2013, 06:58:28 PM
I just made a cooler holder out of the PA pellet packaging. ??? Hot glue gun.
Very cool idea! (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Misc/thumbsUp1eye.gif)
I saved some, now if I could just find where I put it!
Cool item (no pun intended) that only seems to need a CAPOF STICKER! ;)
Quote from: mudduck48 on July 07, 2013, 06:58:28 PM
I just made a cooler holder out of the PA pellet packaging. ??? Hot glue gun.
Pretty nifty :-* and will keep your can from getting dented if you drop it ;D
...and where did you find the Malt Duck? Haven't seen that since the '80's.
Haha great use of the pellet packing! I just threw it away from a four pack.
Replaced my polished ss cap bolt w/ a domehead ss allen bolt..Also polished..I like it better than a solid pin..I had the tube threaded btw..Also had an ss cap fabricated as I don't like acorn nuts..Even w/o the nut it does not move as the bolt locks solid..I like looking at it it's cute but others may not agree :)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0839_zps67fb8ceb.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0841_zps5a730748.jpg)
Here is the Mr. Mudduck pivot arm washer mod..It's all work and no play ;)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0843_zps30de1368.jpg)
In case you are wondering what that black washer thing is between the tube and the ss plug that is a delrin washer that I had fabricated..It's cnc made btw. The maker (a branch of SKF bearings) fabricates custom made seals and packings. Regards.
Quote from: crossliner on July 08, 2013, 09:30:35 AM
Replaced my polished ss cap bolt w/ a domehead ss allen bolt..Also polished..I like it better than a solid pin..I had the tube threaded btw..Also had an ss cap fabricated as I don't like acorn nuts..Even w/o the nut it does not move as the bolt locks solid..I like looking at it it's cute but others may not agree :)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0839_zps67fb8ceb.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0841_zps5a730748.jpg)
Here is the Mr. Mudduck pivot arm washer mod..It's all work and no play ;)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0843_zps30de1368.jpg)
In case you are wondering what that black washer thing is between the tube and the ss plug that is a delrin washer that I had fabricated..It's cnc made btw. The maker (a branch of SKF bearings) fabricates custom made seals and packings. Regards.
Looking real sweet Mr. CL :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: crossliner on July 08, 2013, 09:30:35 AM
Here is the Mr. Mudduck pivot arm washer mod..It's all work and no play ;)
;D ;D ;D That was a clever idea by mr duck and great execution mr CL :-*
I've been playing around with the Crosman PCPs a little bit. As most of you know the Prod, 1701, and 1720 all have interchangeable parts. Even the MRod trigger group can be used on the Prod tube. I've bought various spare parts from Josh Perrin and Crosman over the past few weeks. The first result is my modified 1701. It has a woods walker shroud, a TP off the 1720 for more power and a longer LW barrel also off a 1720. It is now much quieter, excellent LW accuracy still, and virtually no difference in balance or weight because I'm not using the dummy brake that came with the 1701. The camo shroud almost matches the green and black laminate RB grips on this Franken-PCP, even, lol.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/E44703C2-03E4-46E2-AA7C-4A7C8AB4AB91-9807-00001191F8B7881C_zps607edde9.jpg)
Nice pistol!! Thanks for the information about part interchangeability. What fill pressure do you use and how many shots before refill time?
Quote from: Fronzdan on July 08, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
I've been playing around with the Crosman PCPs a little bit. As most of you know the Prod, 1701, and 1720 all have interchangeable parts. Even the MRod trigger group can be used on the Prod tube. I've bought various spare parts from Josh Perrin and Crosman over the past few weeks. The first result is my modified 1701. It has a woods walker shroud, a TP off the 1720 for more power and a longer LW barrel also off a 1720. It is now much quieter, excellent LW accuracy still, and virtually no difference in balance or weight because I'm not using the dummy brake that came with the 1701. The camo shroud almost matches the green and black laminate RB grips on this Franken-PCP, even, lol.
Thank you Mr. BE :)
Quote from: WyoMan on July 08, 2013, 06:30:18 PM
;D ;D ;D That was a clever idea by mr duck and great execution mr CL :-*
Thank you Mr. Wyo :)
The franken pcp looks real nice Fronzdan and I like what you've done also CL. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: Fronzdan on July 08, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
I've been playing around with the Crosman PCPs a little bit. As most of you know the Prod, 1701, and 1720 all have interchangeable parts. Even the MRod trigger group can be used on the Prod tube. I've bought various spare parts from Josh Perrin and Crosman over the past few weeks. The first result is my modified 1701. It has a woods walker shroud, a TP off the 1720 for more power and a longer LW barrel also off a 1720. It is now much quieter, excellent LW accuracy still, and virtually no difference in balance or weight because I'm not using the dummy brake that came with the 1701. The camo shroud almost matches the green and black laminate RB grips on this Franken-PCP, even, lol.
Excellent work, I have to agree with using the longer bbl and shroud....better performance and looks good too :-*
Quote from: targettgii on July 09, 2013, 02:56:04 AM
The franken pcp looks real nice Fronzdan and I like what you've done also CL. :-* :-* :-*
Yes sir there are too many references here up for grabs..I just copy them and execute a few changes :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on July 08, 2013, 10:46:28 PM
Nice pistol!! Thanks for the information about part interchangeability. What fill pressure do you use and how many shots before refill time?
I need to keep track after a fill. Also want to get my chrony out and measure some shot strings.
Just finished a 2240 out of mostly leftover parts from other builds. The tube and barrel came from my original 2240 that evolved into a 2250 with 10" barrel. The grip and trigger assembly came from my 2300KT that now mounts a P-Rod trigger. The valve came from my 2400KT that now has a Boss valve for more power. I added a Crosman short steel breech which I think looks right in proportion to the 7" barrel, an LPA rear sight, and front sight from a 760. The trigger and sear are stock but the spring is the adjustable one off the 2300KT. Last, but not least I threw in a black trigger shoe and replaced the black grip and frame screws with ss. I'll shoot it tomorrow and see how it groups.
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p734/USMA-1982/d%20-%202240/image_zpsbeacc216.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/USMA-1982/media/d%20-%202240/image_zpsbeacc216.jpg.html)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p734/USMA-1982/d%20-%202240/image_zpsfa5d0c0e.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/USMA-1982/media/d%20-%202240/image_zpsfa5d0c0e.jpg.html)
Nice shooter, Ed. After a while and extra parts, it is hard to decide what to call the darn gun. I guess if it has a 2240 tube, that is the best designation for it.
Thanks, and I agree the best naming convention is to go with what's stamped on the tube.
:-* :-* :-* Looks great Ed!!!
CW
Nice Job Ed, I am a fan of that short breech look too :-*
Me, I call them all 2240s (my 2300s and 2240s)
Thanks CW and Droid. Now let's see how it shoots!
PS - Droid, I like your Ratbuster website. Nicely done.
Nice looking Pistol Ed. Maybe Frankengun would be appropriate. :P :P :-*
Great work Fronzdan and USMA :-* :-* :-*
Haha - Frankengun. It lives! Here's the first string of five off hand at 5m. Not bad, should be able to adjust on to bullseye at 10m no problem. The flier was my first shot. Trigger was a bit stiff and brand new cart of course.
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Quote from: USMA-1982 on July 09, 2013, 02:04:32 PM
PS - Droid, I like your Ratbuster website. Nicely done.
Cheers Ed :-*
Had an ss muzzlebrake adapter made today..The barrel is not mounted yet I dissembled the gun it now has 3 set screws on the breech because it's free floated..
Gonna change the forearm tomorrow I have 2 from Mr. Quickster thanks a lot again sir :-*
Also I am going to scope it and remove the BSA red dot I don't like it anymore..The lens has become foggy..Got a cheapo but reliable UTG 4x32 w/c I am going to pair w/ BKL mounts..For scope rings/mounts it's Sportsmatch or BKLs for me no less :-*
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It's like Christmas there already Mr. CL!
Mmmmmmm....night vision...
/Homer Simpson voice
How good does it work? I always thought that would be something really cool have, een to just check out the yard at night when the ding donger goes off.
Did the air spring mod and the power feed on my mini mill if anyone is thinking of doing this mod save yourself some grief and go to Lowe`s or Home Depot and get 2 m6x 1 20mm lg socket cap screws . I found out the ones they sent with the air spring kit were to short only about 1/4 inch sticking out when placed in the bracket and the instructions don`t go with when you have to take the old spring out you need to do the rack then take out the old spring the new rack gives you 5" more travel up and down
Jim
Quote from: BigErn on July 13, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
It's like Christmas there already Mr. CL!
Yes Mr. BE but not everything is for my own use i sell them :)
Mr. Tater it's a Russo made nv not really top of the line as it's only less than $200..It's decent though for its price..My most expensive accessory purchase lately is the Aimpoint T1 Micro 2 moa..It will be handcarried by my cuz..
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-T-1-Scope-Standard-Mount/dp/B007GH4JS4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1373777972&sr=8-4&keywords=aimpoint+micro+t-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Micro-T-1-Scope-Standard-Mount/dp/B007GH4JS4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1373777972&sr=8-4&keywords=aimpoint+micro+t-1)
Also this rangefinder..
http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-PROSTAFF-7-Laser-Rangefinder/dp/B00B9IKYRQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1373778125&sr=1-1&keywords=nikon+pro+staff+7+rangefinder (http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-PROSTAFF-7-Laser-Rangefinder/dp/B00B9IKYRQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1373778125&sr=1-1&keywords=nikon+pro+staff+7+rangefinder)
You may think it's very expensive but you should see the prices of these items in the Philippines..Regards.
Quote from: brz-ryder on July 14, 2013, 03:29:39 AM
Did the air spring mod and the power feed on my mini mill if anyone is thinking of doing this mod save yourself some grief and go to Lowe`s or Home Depot and get 2 m6x 1 20mm lg socket cap screws . I found out the ones they sent with the air spring kit were to short only about 1/4 inch sticking out when placed in the bracket and the instructions don`t go with when you have to take the old spring out you need to do the rack then take out the old spring the new rack gives you 5" more travel up and down
Jim
Pictures and detailed instructions or it never happened! ;)
Quote from: Davio on July 14, 2013, 07:04:43 AM
Pictures and detailed instructions or it never happened! ;)
LOL i`ll post the pictures after all the mods are done i have to make some spacers to mount the DRO`s once i get them mounted Ill post the pictures on the machining space
Jim
Went back more "stock-ish" on my 2300T. I installed a Crosman brake, and filed the front sight pin down a bit, then blackened it with a Sharpie marker. The gun was shooting a bit low with the pin the way it came from the factory, even with the MIM sight raised up to the extreme upper limits of it's travel (adjustment screw on the verge of being loose). This modification allowed me to crank the rear sight back down to a normal setting and still be reasonably on target.
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I've decided to save my BNM breech for another project, perhaps upgrading my Discovery some time. I just prefer the look of the pistol in it's basic, mostly stock appearance.
I also ended up removing the steel breech a second time after noticing a puff of air on my hand when shooting. I guess I had the transfer port installed upside down. Flipping it so the larger end was "up" and re-installing it eliminated the puff of air and it felt like it was shooting with more power.
Very nice P-wood... sight pins are always trial and error, you got the fix just right! :-*
Just got a metal barrel band for my 1377. I put it on and found out that it slightly interferes with the pump arm when it is fully retracted. I tried to take off the pump arm so I could carve out a groove with the Dremel, but I apparently don't know how to remove it. No matter what I stuck in there to remove those pins they didn't budge.
I ended up just using a thin cone shaped sanding bit on the Dremel and carefully carved out a grove with the pump arm still on the gun. Now it no longer touches the barrel band when cocking and you can't even tell that anything was done.
Its not uncommon to have to make some slight alterations on the parts Ninja.....good job :-*
I'm about done with my first attempt at custom grips.These are solid epoxy resin,and hydro dipped in CF,all the way around.."Front,and back"They fit perfectly.Though there is room for improvement,I learned some things while making these,which will be applied to the next set.Also made some light switch covers for the Man cave.Compounded,and polished out the switch plates so they're glass like.Went medium luster on the grips,to avoid an all out assault on the retinas,and to make them more comfortable,with a better grip.Crappy day for weather here in California,so the pic isn't stellar.These really pop in direct sunlight...
Quote from: Mark5043 on July 16, 2013, 08:30:16 PM
I'm about done with my first attempt at custom grips.These are solid epoxy resin,and hydro dipped in CF,all the way around.."Front,and back"They fit perfectly.Though there is room for improvement,I learned some things while making these,which will be applied to the next set.Also made some light switch covers for the Man cave.Compounded,and polished out the switch plates so they're glass like.Went medium luster on the grips,to avoid an all out assault on the retinas,and to make them more comfortable,with a better grip.Crappy day for weather here in California,so the pic isn't stellar.These really pop in direct sunlight...
Good stuff there Mark, that looks really cool 8)
Thanks Big Ern,working on a pump arm to go with the grips,for an upcoming build.
Very nice Mark,,, and you are taking orders how soon? :D
Thanks Brian.Still working on my technique,and working out the bugs,but should have some available pretty soon.
Wow they look way to cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a must have ............. :-*
Thanks Kevin..Here's a pic of the backside.
Wow Mark, looks fantastic.... from one CF nut to another I love it!
I do waterslide decal carbon fiber on 1/43rd and 1/20th scale Formula 1 model cars in the wintertime. Here's a picture or two...
Gloss black base, masking tape template.
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Cf decaled, multiple coats of gloss lacquer, polished out.
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Completed seat.
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Sweeeet! That's some really nice work Chongman.I'm new to dipping,and will probably back tape,the next set of grips to avoid stretching of the pattern
Quote from: chongman on July 16, 2013, 09:24:36 PM
Wow Mark, looks fantastic.... from one CF nut to another I love it!
I do waterslide decal carbon fiber on 1/43rd and 1/20th scale Formula 1 model cars in the wintertime. Here's a picture or two...
Gloss black base, masking tape template.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Super%20Aguri/sa11.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/chongman1/media/Super%20Aguri/sa11.jpg.html)
Cf decaled, multiple coats of gloss lacquer, polished out.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/Super%20Aguri/sa12b.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/chongman1/media/Super%20Aguri/sa12b.jpg.html)
Completed seat.
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That's sick chongman!!!
Very cool stuff Mark and Chongman.
That is very cool stuff guys. :-* :-* :-*
The talents never cease to amaze me here. That stuff is way cool. Dang I really feel below average now. ;D
Quote from: Mark5043 on July 16, 2013, 09:24:02 PM
Thanks Kevin..Here's a pic of the backside.
Thanks for posting the photos. I have considered using a hydrographics kit on a future build so any tips you throw out there would be useful.
Two days of running back and forth between lathe, powdercoat oven and dip tanks. This is the bounty but three are absent (one pair of camo grips and two brakes) are already off to owners.
None of the dipped items have been finished yet. They get a long dry before they get the clear.
One of these items (oh, no... another mystery item :-X) will likely be on my gauntlet entry. It is one of the "strange items" and made with a purpose.
The carbon fiber brake has much more work to finish. You can't even see what the tip is all about. ;D Better pics when done, but...
This is most of the work I did Sunday and Monday. :)
I had to rush because a box is coming from a great Master Buddy of mine and I dare not let him down! ;)
The skills of the dudes on here never cease to amaze me :-*
I like the grips .... to cool ... :-*
I hate it here everyone shines ;)
Quote from: breakfastchef on July 17, 2013, 04:02:20 AM
Thanks for posting the photos. I have considered using a hydrographics kit on a future build so any tips you throw out there would be useful.
Sure no problem chef.I'm pretty new to dipping myself,but hopefully can steer you in the right direction. I'm learning a lot from Jim Urbano of K2concepts.He is a real nice guy,and will answer questions you have on dipping methods,and trouble shooting etc.I chose to back tape the grips,as I could not do them in one "hit" because of stretching of the CF pattern.So I dip one half at a time,with edges taped,then clear that side,then repeat the process on the other side.It works well,and is seamless.For stuff like Camo,I don't back tape a lot of stuff,because it's much harder to notice stretching of the pattern,compared to that of CF.I will consider myself proficient in dipping when I can do a Magpul collapsible stock in one hit,as they have a pretty complex shape.Here is a link to Jim at K2concepts....
https://www.youtube.com/user/k2concepts?feature=watch (https://www.youtube.com/user/k2concepts?feature=watch)
Quote from: Davio on July 17, 2013, 07:38:40 AM
Two days of running back and forth between lathe, powdercoat oven and dip tanks. This is the bounty but three are absent (one pair of camo grips and two brakes) are already off to owners.
None of the dipped items have been finished yet. They get a long dry before they get the clear.
One of these items (oh, no... another mystery item :-X) will likely be on my gauntlet entry. It is one of the "strange items" and made with a purpose.
The carbon fiber brake has much more work to finish. You can't even see what the tip is all about. ;D Better pics when done, but...
This is most of the work I did Sunday and Monday. :)
I had to rush because a box is coming from a great Master Buddy of mine and I dare not let him down! ;)
Nice work Davio! :-*
Quote from: Mark5043 on July 17, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
Here is a link to Jim at K2concepts....
https://www.youtube.com/user/k2concepts?feature=watch (https://www.youtube.com/user/k2concepts?feature=watch)
Thanks for that link. I am trying to watch as many videos as possible to better understand how to dip things that need filp on 360 degrees of surface (i.e. stock, barrel, compression tube). Single flat surfaces look to be pretty easy, but figuring out how to approach the film with more complicated objects, looks, well, complicated.
Indeed.It does take a bit of thought depending on the object involved.
Mark... watching your progress with great interest, I will need to give the old "dip" process a try one of these days.
I used to work for a carbon fiber maker and the woven CF fabrics were sorted into 2 types "decorative" and structural due to weave distortion.
Actually BGF (a big fabric maker) made black dyed fiberglass in several patterns to simulate CF for the decorative guys. Much cheaper than CF.
Finished replacing most the soft slot head screws on my 2400 with 8-32 button head hex drive screws. I had to re-tap the grip holes, the bottom of the barrel band and the flat metal plate (that holds the rear forearm screw) to 8-32. No more hassles with the Crosman screws :-* The only one left original is the valve screw. I don't take that off, so I left it as is (8-32 would be to big anyway).
Quote from: BDS on July 17, 2013, 07:51:07 PM
Mark... watching your progress with great interest, I will need to give the old "dip" process a try one of these days.
I used to work for a carbon fiber maker and the woven CF fabrics were sorted into 2 types "decorative" and structural due to weave distortion.
Actually BGF (a big fabric maker) made black dyed fiberglass in several patterns to simulate CF for the decorative guys. Much cheaper than CF.
I would definitely try the dipping process,when you get a chance.You'll like it. :-*
Very interesting that you worked for a CF maker. 8)
Years ago I spent some time doing some work in actual CF,making bodies for 1/5 scale gas powered RC cars etc.Time consuming,and expensive,but very nice.I want to make some grips in real CF,but in my opinion that would require vacuum bagging in order to get it right.For the time being I may try to do a CF skin,or overlay.
Quote from: AS13 on July 17, 2013, 08:00:33 PM
Finished replacing most the soft slot head screws on my 2400 with 8-32 button head hex drive screws. I had to re-tap the grip holes, the bottom of the barrel band and the flat metal plate (that holds the rear forearm screw) to 8-32. No more hassles with the Crosman screws :-* The only one left original is the valve screw. I don't take that off, so I left it as is (8-32 would be to big anyway).
Sweet.It really does make working on your rig easier. :-*
Quote from: Mark5043 on July 17, 2013, 08:24:02 PM
I would definitely try the dipping process,when you get a chance.You'll like it. :-*
Very interesting that you worked for a CF maker. 8)
Years ago I spent some time doing some work in actual CF,making bodies for 1/5 scale gas powered RC cars etc.Time consuming,and expensive,but very nice.I want to make some grips in real CF,but in my opinion that would require vacuum bagging in order to get it right.For the time being I may try to do a CF skin,or overlay.
Ya, a CF skin that uses the stock grips as a mold (mold release etc) could work out ok if the back side gets scuffed up and the right adhesive were used to bond the skin to the customers original grips. Even a 1/64" thick CF skin is strong enough to hang on for as long the gun is around. Those stock grips need a littl more beef on e'm anyway IMO.
Quote from: BDS on July 17, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
Ya, a CF skin that uses the stock grips as a mold (mold release etc) could work out ok if the back side gets scuffed up and the right adhesive were used to bond the skin to the customers original grips. Even a 1/64" thick CF skin is strong enough to hang on for as long the gun is around. Those stock grips need a littl more beef on e'm anyway IMO.
Yup,that's exactly what I was thinking. 8) Some of the stuff I used to work with was a CF,and Kevlar weave...That fabric is crazy tough.
Davio, loving those WW2 tank type muzzle brakes. :-* :-*
AS13, for valve retention screw...8-32 low head shcs fits the hole in the tube better than the factory screw...have a box of 100...let me know if you need a couple.
Al
Hi Gippeto:
Ok...Thanks! I haven't seen that area of the gun since I first got ;D Took it down, cleaned it up and put it back together. If I have any leaks or valve issues I'll check it out. So far so good! I'm still working on my first 2000 rounds.
For those interested in trying their hand at hydro dipping, I'll add my $.02 USD (especially since it repeats some of what brother Mark5043 has already said).
Videos to watch: Indeed, Jim Urbano of K2concepts has the most and best Youtube videos. I could rattle off a couple of things he says that are more salesman and less helpful, but 99.9% of what he does and says is good stuff.
There are other good videos at the www.Dipwizard.com (http://www.dipwizard.com) site. I have talked to the owner on two occasions and have purchased more than half of my materials from him. He actually talked me OUT of his kit in the beginning and showed me how to get more for less $. VERY REFRESHING. He has most of the graphic films you will see elsewhere and his price incl. shipping is hard to beat. I have no issues with the quality of his materials.
Materials: You will need the film... activator (spray cans okay, but I get quarts and use disposable Preval units that are $6 at Lowe's and Home Depot... primer in complementary colors (tan and browns most common)... good automotive clear in gloss and/or matte... masking tape (cheapest kind you can find in 1/2"... plastic tubs that are just a few inches bigger both directions of the largest item you plan to dip in it (I have three different sizes that will do everything BUT a 1077 stock or a BPacker stock)... get a cheap wind up kitchen /egg timer that will do minute increments with ding... latex gloves (you will need several so get at least a dozen... I get the 100 packs)... either get a respirator mask for solvents or dip outside or in garage/shop with fan blowing fumes of activator AWAY from YOU and towards the egress (Do NOT spray any activator inside as it contains both benzene and Xylene that will cause headaches and will linger many hours)...
Advise of the day (every day) for beginning dippers: Go easy on the activator. Most problems are from too much activator. Did I say to go easy on the activator? ;) Really.
General advisement: If you have a part or two to dip, then you will pay a very steep price to DIY... likely much more than they are worth. Also, do not think that it is dip and smile kind of thing. With scuff, prime, dry, prep tank, cut/tape film, float, activate, dip, rinse, rinse some more, dry, touchup from too much activator ;D, spray clear, cure... there are more process steps and time in this process than most others in my shop. I personally would not even do it if I can not batch a dozen parts or so through all the stages together. I do other stuff in the drying times, then continue on hours later or next day. Life is too short for onesies!
Hope this helps someone. :)
DG
Quote from: Davio on July 17, 2013, 11:52:15 PM
For those interested in trying their hand at hydro dipping, I'll add my $.02 USD (especially since it repeats some of what brother Mark5043 has already said).
Videos to watch: Indeed, Jim Urbano of K2concepts has the most and best Youtube videos. I could rattle off a couple of things he says that are more salesman and less helpful, but 99.9% of what he does and says is good stuff.
There are other good videos at the www.Dipwizard.com (http://www.dipwizard.com) site. I have talked to the owner on two occasions and have purchased more than half of my materials from him. He actually talked me OUT of his kit in the beginning and showed me how to get more for less $. VERY REFRESHING. He has most of the graphic films you will see elsewhere and his price incl. shipping is hard to beat. I have no issues with the quality of his materials.
Materials: You will need the film... activator (spray cans okay, but I get quarts and use disposable Preval units that are $6 at Lowe's and Home Depot... primer in complementary colors (tan and browns most common)... good automotive clear in gloss and/or matte... masking tape (cheapest kind you can find in 1/2"... plastic tubs that are just a few inches bigger both directions of the largest item you plan to dip in it (I have three different sizes that will do everything BUT a 1077 stock or a BPacker stock)... get a cheap wind up kitchen /egg timer that will do minute increments with ding... latex gloves (you will need several so get at least a dozen... I get the 100 packs)... either get a respirator mask for solvents or dip outside or in garage/shop with fan blowing fumes of activator AWAY from YOU and towards the egress (Do NOT spray any activator inside as it contains both benzene and Xylene that will cause headaches and will linger many hours)...
Advise of the day (every day) for beginning dippers: Go easy on the activator. Most problems are from too much activator. Did I say to go easy on the activator? ;) Really.
General advisement: If you have a part or two to dip, then you will pay a very steep price to DIY... likely much more than they are worth. Also, do not think that it is dip and smile kind of thing. With scuff, prime, dry, prep tank, cut/tape film, float, activate, dip, rinse, rinse some more, dry, touchup from too much activator ;D, spray clear, cure... there are more process steps and time in this process than most others in my shop. I personally would not even do it if I can not batch a dozen parts or so through all the stages together. I do other stuff in the drying times, then continue on hours later or next day. Life is too short for onesies!
Hope this helps someone. :)
DG
Davio,your spot on brother. :-* Good points to look at here guys. I get my film from Dipwizard,and get it within three working days.So far it has worked well for me,and the price is right.I pieced my supplies out,and did not purchase a kit,as I already had primers,base coat paint,and clears that are compatible.As far as activator,I'm partial to "Blue Mist" from Hydraphics.
I've been waiting until I had a picture of what I did, but I've been busy and keep forgetting...
A couple weeks ago I was going to take my Marauder out to the woods with me but didn't know if I would need to recharge and all I have is the foot pump, and not wanting to contaminate things I didn't want anything to get in the quick connect. I have a 3' chunk of 3/8" aluminum rod and a metal lathe so I devised to make a plug. I took the copy calipers (don't know the technical name off the top of my head) and copied the dimensions (didn't feel like getting actual dimensions) until they matched. For a handle I wanted to knurl it but don't have a knurling tool but had the gears set up for 11TPI I think (whatever the left handed threads are for a propane tank), threaded it one direction then the other, leaves an interesting look that I kind of like, and I have ideas on modifying that idea...
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Quote from: BigErn on July 18, 2013, 04:47:29 PM
:)
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Very handsome !!! :-*
That looks great Big E. Nice pictures of it too.
Very nice Ernesto, I like the hole pattern :-*
Quite an excellent job! I know how difficult it is to obtain that mirror finish on a trigger.
Sweet trigger Big E .That one took some work that's for sure.
You put a lot of time into that trigger and it shows Ern well done . :-* :-* :-*
Nice, BigErn!!
Nice work Ern! 8) :-*
Beautiful trigger, Bigern :)
I can see that was done by hand... and took a minute or three ;)
That looks great. So nice looking.....
top work ern looks the dogs danglies
ped
Quote from: Davio on July 19, 2013, 04:57:52 AM
Beautiful trigger, Bigern :)
I can see that was done by hand... and took a minute or three ;)
Knowing the gent it's more like 3 hours ;)
Quote from: crossliner on July 19, 2013, 02:31:15 PM
Knowing the gent it's more like 3 hours ;)
Thanks guys! Yeah 3 hours is about right Mr. CL. I really don't enjoy polishing triggers >:(. But it's worth it in the end.
Wow some great CF Grip work in this thread! Chongman, those scale F1 seats are amazing. The tiny buckles on the harness... well very cool!
Here's some more pics of the grips I just made.Working on a pump arm now.I was pleased to get the fit right on the first set of grips I've ever made in my life.They fit the frame with no slop,and are rock solid in the hand. 8)
:-*
Wow :o The grips are very cool Mark!
Thanks Chongman.Working on a second set now...This half just out of the tank,rinsed,and drying.Better results than the first one's.Took a minute to figure out how to do it without distortion in the print.Just like Davio mentioned,not much activator is required for the film to glass out,at correct water temp.Too much activator,and the film will break apart,and slide off your work.
Those grips look awesome Mark. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: targettgii on July 20, 2013, 12:26:59 AM
Those grips look awesome Mark. :-* :-* :-*
Oh yeah!!!
While my Prod trigger frame is traveling back from being powder coated I got to work on the trigger this morning.
I was surprised to find it was made from steel instead of the usual Crosman alloy. I worked it over with the Dremel tool and some sandpaper. Next I applied a couple of coats of cold blue until the trigger had a gray look to it, scrubbed it with baking soda to stop the bluing process, 0000 steel wool with oil, cleaned with acetone and applied EEZOX.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/GauntletII/prodtrigger_zps3165432b.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/chongman1/media/GauntletII/prodtrigger_zps3165432b.jpg.html)
Hello Gauntlet II :-\
Quote from: chongman on July 20, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
While my Prod trigger frame is traveling back from being powder coated I got to work on the trigger this morning.
I was surprised to find it was made from steel instead of the usual Crosman alloy. I worked it over with the Dremel tool and some sandpaper. Next I applied a couple of coats of cold blue until the trigger had a gray look to it, scrubbed it with baking soda to stop the bluing process, 0000 steel wool with oil, cleaned with acetone and applied EEZOX.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/GauntletII/prodtrigger_zps3165432b.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/chongman1/media/GauntletII/prodtrigger_zps3165432b.jpg.html)
Hello Gauntlet II :-\
Beautiful chongman! That's a lot of work for just a trigger 8)
Each part must stand out on it's own ;)
Excellent work on that trigger! :-* Cold bluing can really look good,if done correctly,and you nailed it. 8)
Nice work Michael. The finished product is going to be way way nice by the way this one part looks.
Quote from: chongman on July 20, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
While my Prod trigger frame is traveling back from being powder coated I got to work on the trigger this morning.
I was surprised to find it was made from steel instead of the usual Crosman alloy. I worked it over with the Dremel tool and some sandpaper. Next I applied a couple of coats of cold blue until the trigger had a gray look to it, scrubbed it with baking soda to stop the bluing process, 0000 steel wool with oil, cleaned with acetone and applied EEZOX.
Nice! (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97301041/Misc/thumbsUp1eye.gif)
It's little tips like this that makes CAPOF a great resource. Next time I blue a small part I'll have to try this.
That trigger looks awesome ... :-*
There is a new sound in the shop. It's not too loud at all. I can talk on the phone, hear myself hum yet... but it's there. It's continuous. And on the second day I can nearly block it out. My new play toy is a vibratory tumbler and over the next days and weeks I will teach myself some media tricks from deburring to fine polishing. Yeah, I'll still have to use the blaster sometimes, the bench grinder others, and no doubt one of the two double wheel stand polishers, but I can already tell this has much potential to get me real close on lots of things as it runs itself.
Right now I have nearly everything but the kitchen sink in the thing just seeing what results I can get with the media I have started with. There are hammers and triggers and sears and frame pins and (crazy me) a drop of delrin and aluminum rod just milling about. Then I'll go to another... and another. Finally the recipes will reveal themselves to me.
Good times.
In the 1st picture: Stock untouched are on the left and cleaned 2 hours are on the right.
Nice Davio... so when is the chrome plating equipment coming? :D
Quote from: BDS on July 23, 2013, 02:34:21 PM
Nice Davio... so when is the chrome plating equipment coming? :D
Chrome, nickel, copper, brass, silver, gold. I know you were kidding, but plating will happen. It has been on the list a long time. But, the remaining items on that list IS getting shorter all the time so it is getting closer. I've done that (seen after, actually) before on a larger scale. Wee little parts will be a breeze. Finding the time and deciding where to put it is the issue. Small amounts of really nasty by-products have to be dealt with. Gotta be legal careful where / how one disposes of the chromic acid, etc.
Ya... the plating chems are on the bad list with the EPA, that's why it costs so much to get plating done, the storage and disposal costs more than the chems! Not many vendors left that are willing to play with Holder and Chairman "O" and the self appointed green-gods in DC.
There's plenty of creative and fine looking work going on here. Well done guys! RC
Try a teaspoon of Nu Finish car wax in there. They say it works wonders for polishing with walnuts.
Rich
Davio, I use treated corn cob in my tumbler, works great. Here is some here at a good price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-Lb-Over-Corn-Cob-Tumbler-Media-Treated-For-Best-Polish-On-Your-Brass-/271228428556?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2679610c#ht_722wt_1170 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-Lb-Over-Corn-Cob-Tumbler-Media-Treated-For-Best-Polish-On-Your-Brass-/271228428556?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2679610c#ht_722wt_1170)
Quote from: arkmaker on July 23, 2013, 11:20:37 PM
Try a teaspoon of Nu Finish car wax in there. They say it works wonders for polishing with walnuts.
Rich
Good advise! I concur! ;)
Dusted off (3) 1377's and (1) 1322... I have not shot in a very long time, and the weather and outdoors is calling to me.
Quote from: DRAGON64 on July 28, 2013, 02:04:57 PM
Dusted off (3) 1377's and (1) 1322... I have not shot in a very long time, and the weather and outdoors is calling to me.
Excellent :-* ..... "thats good work if you can get it" :D
What's been fun recently was seeing the results of some Mother's polish after giving a few triggers some attention.
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m58/JeepinCalifornia/Air%20Guns/DDD10CAB-449C-4543-B257-FBC869EDE6FA-6498-000004205E2DE43F_zpse5e2031a.jpg) (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/JeepinCalifornia/media/Air%20Guns/DDD10CAB-449C-4543-B257-FBC869EDE6FA-6498-000004205E2DE43F_zpse5e2031a.jpg.html)
This polish really is good stuff - it was suggested here. :-*
Nice Aaron 8) had to put the shades on to look. ;D
As for me I've tore down and put back together my 1377 to many times the last couple of days. Got it figured out and this accustoms flat top set is working good. 5 pumps 500 fps that's good enough for me. :-*
Lookin like a real nice job ... :-*
Quote from: AaronMB on July 28, 2013, 10:14:25 PM
What's been fun recently was seeing the results of some Mother's polish after giving a few triggers some attention.
This polish really is good stuff - it was suggested here. :-*
Can you provide some specifics on the spring in your trigger assembly...?
polished up a grip frame using mothers
now i will see if the mothers will make my tko1911 trigger shine
;) ;) Been working on my 2nd Gunnilet II build today. Hope by Friday 'll have it complete with picsan range report. Thidone is a pumper !!! ;) ;)
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on July 29, 2013, 10:38:19 PM
;) ;) Been working on my 2nd Gunnilet II build today. Hope by Friday 'll have it complete with picsan range report. Thidone is a pumper !!! ;) ;)
I don't have one for the Guantlett , so send me one, will ya?? ;D ;D
;) What kind you want LOL :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on July 29, 2013, 11:18:51 PM
;) What kind you want LOL :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
All of them. ;D
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: DRAGON64 on July 29, 2013, 01:50:28 PM
Can you provide some specifics on the spring in your trigger assembly...?
All I did was take the stock Crosman spring with me to Ace Hardware and I selected a spring that was pretty close to stock size, but a touch softer - makes a noticeable difference in trigger pull. OSH seems to have decent spring selections, too.
There a few threads around here somewhere in which specific sizes are suggested by brand.
I can pull out the calipers and get some dimensions later, if you like.
Created a 2320KT.
fished removing the casting marks on my grip frame and sent it off for refinishing. since its raining today might as well see what mothers will do for the tko1911 trigger
My new BRASS valve for my used 392 arrived and I'm heading down to install it!! :P :P :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Benjamin%20392/E2E79A29-E9BE-48EA-8D89-C19FFC1839DD-14870-0000153D41428034_zps9c7bef90.jpg)
CW
Quote from: Cwlongshot on July 30, 2013, 11:01:15 PM
My new BRASS valve for my used 392 arrived and I'm heading down to install it!! :P :P :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Benjamin%20392/E2E79A29-E9BE-48EA-8D89-C19FFC1839DD-14870-0000153D41428034_zps9c7bef90.jpg)
CW
crosman finally got the hint and start using brass valves again in the benji's
hopefully they do it for the 13xx again
Heard that the benji hb and eb have been mothballed. Is that true??? If it is, then all we will be seeing is more aluminum valves...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Benjamin%20392/CF0FC70D-00FF-49E0-B457-A083D51A3512-14870-000015479235810A_zps6288f76c.jpg)
It had a aluminum in it from the factory... :o :o :o
CW
Quote from: arkmaker on July 30, 2013, 11:19:08 PM
Heard that the benji hb and eb have been mothballed. Is that true??? If it is, then all we will be seeing is more aluminum valves...
Yup. Was reported in the last issue of Airgun Hobbyist. I think that takes care of all the guns of Sheridan heritage.
Quote from: 1377x on July 30, 2013, 06:15:26 PM
fished removing the casting marks on my grip frame and sent it off for refinishing. since its raining today might as well see what mothers will do for the tko1911 trigger
What color you going for ED?
Quote from: chongman on July 31, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
What color you going for ED?
plain black. i tried using colors and it doesnt sit well with me. just about everything i have is black.. almost sent the trigger with it. for some reason a red tko1911 trigger seemed like a good idea. in the end i decided to polish it since the gun its going on has a black and silver theme. thats one thing i will never do again. there are so many marks in the trigger it will take to long to remove all of them,not to mention how much material needs to be removed for a smooth finish. i left the face of the trigger alone, it has some bite no worries about the finger slipping
Quote from: 1377x on July 31, 2013, 07:48:51 PM
plain black. i tried using colors and it doesnt sit well with me. just about everything i have is black.. almost sent the trigger with it. for some reason a red tko1911 trigger seemed like a good idea. in the end i decided to polish it since the gun its going on has a black and silver theme. thats one thing i will never do again. there are so many marks in the trigger it will take to long to remove all of them,not to mention how much material needs to be removed for a smooth finish. i left the face of the trigger alone, it has some bite no worries about the finger slipping
Good plan on the black Ed, somehow, these guns that show up now and then (for sale) with red and blue and other non-gun colors well.. :o you know :D
Quote from: BDS on July 31, 2013, 08:17:39 PM
Good plan on the black Ed, somehow, these guns that show up now and then (for sale) with red and blue and other non-gun colors well.. :o you know :D
yeah! i know where my parts went and who bought them when i look around the forums
you know i treat my guns as tools and when they are pretty and shiny i dont want to use them,then they become art pieces. that doesnt work for
Today I did up a stock pump arm to match the custom grips I did.During prep for the dip tank,I changed the contours of the arm slightly,and wet sanded out that fake wood grain that I dislike so much,while leaving the stippling intact for proper grip.In my opinion you can't really pull off the right look if you dip the pump arms in CF film,with that cheesy wood grain showing through.I don't think it looks right.Once cured this one will be compounded out,and be smooth as glass. :-*
Dang that looks fine :-*
I'm with ya on that fake wood grain under the cf, just doesn't seem right.
Quote from: Mark5043 on August 05, 2013, 11:32:07 PM
Today I did up a stock pump arm to match the custom grips I did.During prep for the dip tank,I changed the contours of the arm slightly,and wet sanded out that fake wood grain that I dislike so much,while leaving the stippling intact for proper grip.In my opinion you can't really pull off the right look if you dip the pump arms in CF film,with that cheesy wood grain showing through.I don't think it looks right.Once cured this one will be compounded out,and be smooth as glass. :-*
looking good!
will it show good on a 2289 pump arm
Wow that looks really nice, great job!
Quote from: chongman on August 06, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
Dang that looks fine :-*
I'm with ya on that fake wood grain under the cf, just doesn't seem right.
What he said :D :D :D It really does look awesome!
Thanks guys.I'm a dippin' fool lately.. ;D At Ed,I take it your referring to the texture underneath showing through?I've never actually owned or done a backpacker arm yet,but it seems to be the same texture of the 1399 stock if I'm not mistaken.In that case I would think if one decided to do a gloss top coat,they could just build up a few coats of primer,before base coating/dipping the part,and that would fill in the texturing on that particular pump arm.I'm sure Davio would know,as I see he dips a lot as well,and has done the backpacker arm.Doing that arm in say a semi-gloss,or a matte clear,as you'd do with a Camo,I think you'd be good to go.It's just when you get crazy with the gloss,and polish,that any underlying texture would likely show up in detail.By the way I got my butt chewed out by the wife today,because I jokingly suggested we dip one of her favorite lamps in CF...If looks could kill,I wouldn't be writing this. :o ;D
lol!
thanks for the info
Sure,anytime Ed :-*
Looks great
That came out great. :-* :-* :-*
Thanks guys. :)I've been having way too much fun with the hydrographics lately,and waiting on some different films.Also I plan on playing around with different color base coats,as well as blended color base coats to achieve some really nice effects,especially with the Camo's.I've got an idea for some winter Camo custom work,that will have a blended multi color base.Subtle,but the effect should be really nice.
the hydrographics, do they work on any material?
Generally speaking anything that can be primed. I'm about to dip some scopes. :)
Quote from: Davio on August 07, 2013, 04:39:47 AM
Generally speaking anything that can be primed. I'm about to dip some scopes. :)
thats cool!
i want my steel breech covered
glad i can finally post in this thread ;D
my DBO kit and accessories arrived today and i put the steel breech on , the accushot high rings and a CP 4-16x40AO wally world special . i also did my first mod (besides the breech) by taking the rubber o-ring out of a scripto lighter and putting it on top of the transfer port between it and the barrel :-* .
(http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/BOOTY-MONSTER/IMG_0186_zps622ffb3c.jpg)
(http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/BOOTY-MONSTER/IMG_0187_zps8eba1600.jpg)
i got a ways to go , but i'm in the game now ;)
nice pics!
congrats on the successful first mods
Looking good !!! nice start ... :-*
Looks good Booty. Now we need shot details. :-*
Quote from: crossliner on July 13, 2013, 03:08:54 PM
Had an ss muzzlebrake adapter made today..The barrel is not mounted yet I dissembled the gun it now has 3 set screws on the breech because it's free floated..
Gonna change the forearm tomorrow I have 2 from Mr. Quickster thanks a lot again sir :-*
Also I am going to scope it and remove the BSA red dot I don't like it anymore..The lens has become foggy..Got a cheapo but reliable UTG 4x32 w/c I am going to pair w/ BKL mounts..For scope rings/mounts it's Sportsmatch or BKLs for me no less :-*
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0864_zps76cae874.jpg)
Your stainless muzzlebrake adaptor is
exactly what I've been looking for. Could you give a heads up to where I could get one from, pretty please. ;)
Hi Mr. P55..It is custom made sir. It looks like this now but I have already changed the forearm. Greetings from the Philippines :)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_1045_zpsf8c6a910.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_1045_zpsf8c6a910.jpg.html)
Thanks Mr CL, I need to find me a metal machinist. Is that the right description :-[
Quote from: 1377x on August 06, 2013, 09:38:42 PM
the hydrographics, do they work on any material?
Like Davio said, most objects can be done within reason.It's a very versatile system.Most things that will hold primer,and a base coat will take to dipping.Some things even take to dipping without priming.One such item is parts that are made from Polypropylene,such as dirt bike,and ATV fenders etc. To get away with doing something like that without using a primer,you first have to remove the mold release agent that is used at the factory.It contains silicone.A few passes "carefully"with a propane torch over the part will cause the mold release to come to the surface of the plastic.Then you can deep clean the part with degreaser,scuff,shoot your base,and dip.Iv'e got some Hammerli 850 Air magnum parts coming from guy pretty soon,that are going to look great,Hydro dipped. :-*
Quote from: Booty Monster on August 07, 2013, 05:09:25 AM
glad i can finally post in this thread ;D
my DBO kit and accessories arrived today and i put the steel breech on , the accushot high rings and a CP 4-16x40AO wally world special . i also did my first mod (besides the breech) by taking the rubber o-ring out of a scripto lighter and putting it on top of the transfer port between it and the barrel :-* .
(http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/BOOTY-MONSTER/IMG_0186_zps622ffb3c.jpg)
(http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab234/BOOTY-MONSTER/IMG_0187_zps8eba1600.jpg)
i got a ways to go , but i'm in the game now ;)
Very Nice! :-* :-*
Quote from: Mark5043 on August 07, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
Like Davio said, most objects can be done within reason.It's a very versatile system.Most things that will hold primer,and a base coat will take to dipping.Some things even take to dipping without priming.One such item is parts that are made from Polypropylene,such as dirt bike,and ATV fenders etc. To get away with doing something like that without using a primer,you first have to remove the mold release agent that is used at the factory.It contains silicone.A few passes "carefully"with a propane torch over the part will cause the mold release to come to the surface of the plastic.Then you can deep clean the part with degreaser,scuff,shoot your base,and dip.Iv'e got some Hammerli 850 Air magnum parts coming from guy pretty soon,that are going to look great,Hydro dipped. :-*
That's interesting Mark, those Hammerli 850s are butt-ugly in the black/grey plastic IMO, so... camo? wood? other?
I agree.There is a lot you can do to them though,and I plan on picking one up in .22.Heard good things about the barrel,and it's accuracy.I'm working with the guy now,and he seems to be leaning towards a late fall leaf/early Winter Camo,with a tricolor base. A subtly fanned in white,and grey,with a touch of sky blue in there.
I took my 1377 down and repolished it and shined it up again. Putting WHITE grips and forarm on it Friday.(have to take my baby brother to cancer Dr. tommarow) Pics it follow.
Quote from: Paul55 on August 07, 2013, 05:57:52 PM
Thanks Mr CL, I need to find me a metal machinist. Is that the right description :-[
Just a machinist sir :)..It is very cheap here I had it made for around $6 - $7 labor and mats..It is a custom fit to my standard length ( w/o touching the pump tube) polished 1377 barrel because normally them UK made "muzzlebrake" adapters have 11.05mm inside diameters. I have some coming from the UK btw for my other airguns...And because I had my barrel polished it is obvious that some of the barrel thickness have been removed..It is a very tight fit set screws are not needed but nevertheless it has 2 threaded holes as provisions strategically located to hit the undercut section of the OEM 1377 barrel tip. Regards.
It looked like this before w/ just the muzzleguard..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0843_zps30de1368.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_0843_zps30de1368.jpg.html)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_0841_zps5a730748.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_0841_zps5a730748.jpg.html)
Got a good start on a spinner target. Still needs some work and some more co2 carts but it seems to work.
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130810130634058_zps688db544.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/bgmcgee1960/media/CameraZOOM-20130810130634058_zps688db544.jpg.html)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/th_video-2013-08-10-13-07-31_zpsf9b1db72.jpg) (http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/video-2013-08-10-13-07-31_zpsf9b1db72.mp4)
Cool idea there bgmcgee. :-* Constant supply of free spinners too if they get to dinged up.
Thank Jerry. That's exactly what I was thinking. With 5 co2 pistols I have no problem generating empty carts.
That's pretty slick Barry :-*
There's a few things missing though....
Axle
Wheels & Tires
Tow Hitch to connect to my Ridin' Grass Cutter
;D
Like I said still a work in progress. Not to sure about the tires, wheels and tow hitch but still a possibility. ;D Did a little shooting to get me some more empties. Also made me a drilling jig too, got to K.I.S.S. you know. Still needing at least one more cart and then we shall see if it works or falls apart. :-X Picture of the jig and cart are just mock up not going to drill into a full cart if you know what I mean. :D
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130810182208574_zps82454b83.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130810182129798_zpsbb2ef471.jpg)
I knew there was something you could do with the spent carts and there it is. Great job!! :-\
Well done reactive target, Mr. Barry. How about some nylon spacers between the carts to keep them from moving from side-to-side.
Thanks guys. I am going to use some copper tubing in between the carts just need to get the spacing right. Also one plus I just found out is this is a new way to p.o.the wife ;D ;D ;D Naw kidding on that last part,maybe, but if you look at the latest picture you can see spacers on either end.
Nice work !! ... and definitely unique !!
I need to make up a power adjuster for my 2240 ... I have it in the "mental design" stage right now ...
I'm doing 600 FPS with 14.3 CPs' and I think I'm wasting a lot of CO2 ... ???
Cool stuff bgmcgee. Just don't shoot the center of a cart. ;)
COOL idea, I like it ... :-*
Looks fun :-*
Last one I did, the cart was hanging from the end. I was going to try 3 spaced 120 degrees apart next to balance them. Hopefully, they will spin easier.
Got my new 2240 the other day. Put new steel breech ,12" barrel, BSA red dot aim point polished trigger and sear, and one of silvershooter's muzzel breaks on it. Pics will be posted in gallery on Monday. :) :)
Mounted a Ncstar 3x9x40 on my Crosman 1400 also today. Got it bore sited . Pic will also be posted on Monday. ;) ;)
Very cool TH can't wait to see the Pics. :-* :-* :-* :-*
Well got the spinner target done and did some playing around with it today.It's still in one piece :-* Seems to work good gives you good feed back on good hits. The better the hit the faster the carts spin. Shot at it with the 1377,bnm2240. and my Bluestreak. The Bluestreak puts a hurting on the carts at 8 pumps ;D
Here is a video I hope it works. First shot is the Bluestreak, not a great hit only 5 pumps
Next shot is the 1377 at 10 pumps again not the best hit then the last shot is the bnm2240.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJXEWHqUrEs&feature=youtube_gdata_player]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJXEWHqUrEs&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/url]
:) very cool ... :-*
Very cool, Barry!
What was that music playing in the background? Very psychedelic :o
Sweet spinners Barry;)
I like it,thats neat. Great job on it
Thanks guys it's something different than shooting paper for sure. Hey Noah if you are talking about the song that comes on towards the end of the video it's Incubus "Megalomaniac" . Got's to have some tunes going when I'm playing with the pellet guns. I grab my mp3 player and my little Foxl v2 speaker and shoot away. Here is a link to that little wonder it just amazes me how well this little thing sounds.
http://www.soundmatters.com/index.html (http://www.soundmatters.com/index.html)
Quote from: bgmcgee on August 11, 2013, 03:42:44 AM
Like I said still a work in progress. Not to sure about the tires, wheels and tow hitch but still a possibility. ;D Did a little shooting to get me some more empties. Also made me a drilling jig too, got to K.I.S.S. you know. Still needing at least one more cart and then we shall see if it works or falls apart. :-X Picture of the jig and cart are just mock up not going to drill into a full cart if you know what I mean. :D
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130810182208574_zps82454b83.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t484/bgmcgee1960/CameraZOOM-20130810182129798_zpsbb2ef471.jpg)
That's a great idea!! Might have to do something like it sometime.
You should Big E . It's pretty addictive trying to get the best hit on them to really get them spinning.
Quote from: bgmcgee on August 12, 2013, 04:20:03 PM
You should Big E . It's pretty addictive trying to get the best hit on them to really get them spinning.
BG: Get some rubber cone washers that tightly fit the rod diameter your carts are on, they will act as spacers to keep the carts spinning in their own "orbit" or position on the rod. Just place e'm about 1/8" away from the cart on each side :-*
What I did was cut some copper tubing spacers that fit between the carts. They seem to do the trick. I used some rubber grommets on the outside to keep the rod in place so they kind of find their own space.
Xclnt :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on August 12, 2013, 05:02:03 PM
What I did was cut some copper tubing spacers that fit between the carts. They seem to do the trick. I used some rubber grommets on the outside to keep the rod in place so they kind of find their own space.
Quote from: BigErn on August 12, 2013, 04:10:36 PM
That's a great idea!! Might have to do something like it sometime.
BG, what size drill bit did you use to drill the cartridge hole on the jig?
right
Quote from: soolio on August 12, 2013, 07:01:24 PM
BG, what size drill bit did you use to drill the cartridge hole on the jig?
I used a 3/4 forstener bit. I guess I spelled that right ;D. I'm pretty sure any 3/4 bit would work though.
Thank you sir;)
I'd been wanting to do "something" with the skeleton stock on my 2289 for a while now, but couldn't figure out what. Then I recently discovered paracord wrapping and ended up putting about 50 feet on it. I call it the "Ninja Wrap". It can easily be taken off if needed. The knot is just inside the front end of the wrapping. Gives the stock a little more bulk and it does feel better against the cheek. Fortunately Hobby Lobby had desert camo paracord in their selection and it matches nicely with the paint job I already had on the gun.
Quote from: agninja on August 13, 2013, 01:54:00 AM
I'd been wanting to do "something" with the skeleton stock on my 2289 for a while now, but couldn't figure out what. Then I recently discovered paracord wrapping and ended up putting about 50 feet on it. I call it the "Ninja Wrap". It can easily be taken off if needed. The knot is just inside the front end of the wrapping. Gives the stock a little more bulk and it does feel better against the cheek. Fortunately Hobby Lobby had desert camo paracord in their selection and it matches nicely with the paint job I already had on the gun.
That's a cool idea and I like how it looks too. :-*
That does look pretty cool and it's nice to have 50 ft. of paracord in a pinch. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: targettgii on August 13, 2013, 02:42:20 AM
That does look pretty cool and it's nice to have 50" of paracord in a pinch. :-* :-* :-*
Good thinking TGI and great idea Agninja. :-* Very creative.
Quote from: agninja on August 13, 2013, 01:54:00 AM
I'd been wanting to do "something" with the skeleton stock on my 2289 for a while now, but couldn't figure out what. Then I recently discovered paracord wrapping and ended up putting about 50 feet on it. I call it the "Ninja Wrap". It can easily be taken off if needed. The knot is just inside the front end of the wrapping. Gives the stock a little more bulk and it does feel better against the cheek. Fortunately Hobby Lobby had desert camo paracord in their selection and it matches nicely with the paint job I already had on the gun.
Nice ninja! That stuff is cool 8) :-*
Quote from: agninja on August 13, 2013, 01:54:00 AM
I'd been wanting to do "something" with the skeleton stock on my 2289 for a while now, but couldn't figure out what. Then I recently discovered paracord wrapping and ended up putting about 50 feet on it. I call it the "Ninja Wrap". It can easily be taken off if needed. The knot is just inside the front end of the wrapping. Gives the stock a little more bulk and it does feel better against the cheek. Fortunately Hobby Lobby had desert camo paracord in their selection and it matches nicely with the paint job I already had on the gun.
Man that's cool!! I never seen one done like that :-* :-*
Thanks guys. I had wanted to try a more intricate and complex style of wrap, but it already took a long time to do it the way I did it, since I had to weave it through the center of the stock every single time. :(
How long did it take you to do all that!!
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on August 13, 2013, 03:20:07 AM
How long did it take you to do all that!!
Not too long...that is until I decided that I didn't want to keep the camo green cord and had to undo it and then redo it all over again in desert camo! :D Takes about an hour or less to put on, so it's not too bad.
Very cool idea! Looks awesome! :-*
Paracord is awesome for so many things. I got some to make slings originally and ended making all kinds of other stuff! Knife handles, bow grips....I even wrapped up the top bar of my 1399 stock before I modded it. here's where I learned to tie paracord knots;)... http://fusionknots.com/graphics/gallery/knots/index.html (http://fusionknots.com/graphics/gallery/knots/index.html)
Click on one of the knots you like and it will open a movie on how to make it. The guys movies are actually quite amazing!
Looks way much nice, good job ... :-*
Fantastic Mr. Ninja :-*
Looks great ninja, and handy if you suddenly need some rope. :-*
Quote from: agninja on August 13, 2013, 01:54:00 AM
I'd been wanting to do "something" with the skeleton stock on my 2289 for a while now, but couldn't figure out what. Then I recently discovered paracord wrapping and ended up putting about 50 feet on it. I call it the "Ninja Wrap". It can easily be taken off if needed. The knot is just inside the front end of the wrapping. Gives the stock a little more bulk and it does feel better against the cheek. Fortunately Hobby Lobby had desert camo paracord in their selection and it matches nicely with the paint job I already had on the gun.
That's pretty neat. Nice idea!
updated my 2289 with a long steel breech and a Center Point Multi-TAC Quick Aim Sight...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/2289Updated_zps3f0b28cc.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/2289Updated_zps3f0b28cc.jpg.html)
updated my 2300KT with a 2-stage trigger and also replaced the breech that had come from the Custom Shop with a very poor finish. (replacement was sent after I contacted CS about the problem)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/2300KTUpdated_zpsc939bf50.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/2300KTUpdated_zpsc939bf50.jpg.html)
Those shooters are looking good rws.
you didnt waste anytime swapping out the trigger group
congrats!
Nice RWS :-* Putting that trigger on the 2300 is a great option. Crosman should have that option in the custom shop as it takes this good shooter to a great shooter. The 3 Crosman pistols I have all have that trigger.
Finished milling the new brass CO2 tubes for my 2240 will post pics in the machining section after i get done polishing them
Jim
Quote from: brz-ryder on August 15, 2013, 12:08:02 PM
Finished milling the new brass CO2 tubes for my 2240 will post pics in the machining section after i get done polishing them
Jim
:o :o way to cool ... how many are you making ?
Quote from: KevinP on August 15, 2013, 12:12:04 PM
:o :o way to cool ... how many are you making ?
Just 2 for now a 8 3/8 stock size and one 12" long want to see how they turn out before i make any more. Also need to get the DRO installed before i make any more pain using indicator
Jim
I completed my "Dan House" P-Rod stock upgrade....
The Prod itself is new, put together from parts I bought from JPMoneyshot and ordered from Crosman. This P-rod with standard furniture was put together for about $200 total. I added a Gaska shroud extension too.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/73A17DDE-D9B9-4485-90F3-768F5ECF5E46-6312-0000088C5E9659C2_zps776eef5d.jpg)
I really like the stock on my Challenger and saw how Dan House mounted his Prod in one. All you need is the Challenger stock, an Mrod trigger group (I had a new one laying around) and a little bit of inletting. At Dan's suggestion I used a Forstner bit instead of the hole saw i was going to try. I measured a dozen times every which way, said a prayer, crossed my fingers and bore out a hole for the Prod gauge.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/6912745F-1133-4F82-8508-54AD6C44142F-6312-00000883FD93D324_zps7d0e486a.jpg)
The Forstner bit made a very clean, precise hole. I think the hole saw i was going to use would have hacked the edges a bit. Thanks, Dan.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/B597D507-3A15-4AE8-BFC6-BE864E853613-6312-000008841DFC959E_zps220a2f74.jpg)
Whew I measured correctly, lol. It lines up very well with about 1/16" clearance around the gauge. It is recessed quite a bit, but I can see it when I need to. I am thinking of putting a cover/cap of some sort on it if I can find the right diameter.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/95DED0B2-AAC9-4F06-8586-1264B60CBF2D-1912-0000022B35FE5DC0_zpsc08afc61.jpg)
The next bit of work needed is to either enlarge the existing slot for the barrel band, or cut a new one. The existing Challenger barrel band slot is pretty shallow. The Prod band is chunkier on the bottom. Making the existing slot deeper would likely cut into the cutouts in the forearm. I opted to cut a new slot further down the stock so it's between the cut outs, giving more material to cut into...see the Challenger here
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/8AD9DAF7-75B0-4C8F-AC50-12441F4A84CC-6359-0000088F1C78C57F_zps6be7851f.jpg)
I used a dremel to cut the new slot on the right. I kept the tolerance pretty tight around the band.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/55AC03B9-F138-42B5-BC46-88DE3EA7DDFB-6312-000008843C1FF5E7_zpscd59ac9f.jpg)
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/ECEAD990-3499-40DB-81D8-490BE7BE4091-1912-0000022B8784E238_zpseedcb4f4.jpg)
All that was left was tapping a hole in the Mrod trigger pack for the Challenger trigger guard and its a drop in!
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/061284C8-7262-4979-A494-CC5CBD269DD3-1912-0000022B194ABA40_zpsd63fad39.jpg)
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/02A8C527-3389-4C51-BB4F-6CC7C2684FC0-1912-0000022AFD2A171E_zps29a5ee69.jpg)
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/E59F2BE5-B52A-4219-9B7E-32FC21DB4EA3-1912-0000022B9A8A64E4_zpsc6cd87c0.jpg)
I threw on a bug buster I had, but I think it needs a bit bigger glass. Plus I don't like the short eye relief on this model. Notice I have the front ring as far back as I can get it and its still too forward for my liking. I have a bigger Centerpoint on its way.
It shoots great and has great balance and is short and light. The project cost me about 80 bucks- for the trigger guard, the stock mounting screw and the stock itself. (I got a great deal on the stock)
really looks impressive well done mate
ped
Holy cow !!!!!!!!!!! nice job ................ :-*
Finally fitted Colt Delta Elite grips to my Umarex Colt 1911 IPAS pistol. I dremeled the shape over about 5 days this week, trying very hard not to go through grip or break outline :D
Managed it, phew
The frame
http://instagram.com/p/dFc9pEkQve/ (http://instagram.com/p/dFc9pEkQve/)
How it looks
http://instagram.com/p/dFdK3tkQgA/ (http://instagram.com/p/dFdK3tkQgA/)
Nice job ... !!!!!!!!!!!! :-*
Quote from: Fronzdan on August 16, 2013, 08:38:54 PM
I completed my "Dan House" P-Rod stock upgrade....
It shoots great and has great balance and is short and light. The project cost me about 80 bucks- for the trigger guard, the stock mounting screw and the stock itself. (I got a great deal on the stock)
Just a superb transformation! I really do like the Challenger stock and can only imagine how well it will work on the PRod. A++++++
Outstanding work Fronzdan!! :-* You dig in deep on that one, and it came out beautiful.
I'm amazed at what some of you guys can do. I stress out putting on a steel breech. :(
Great work with that conversion Mr Fronzdan :-* that looks very solid and well done!
Nice chop Fronzdan!!!
That came out great Fronzdan!! :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: Fronzdan on August 16, 2013, 08:38:54 PM
I completed my "Dan House" P-Rod stock upgrade....
The Prod itself is new, put together from parts I bought from JPMoneyshot and ordered from Crosman. This P-rod with standard furniture was put together for about $200 total. I added a Gaska shroud extension too.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/73A17DDE-D9B9-4485-90F3-768F5ECF5E46-6312-0000088C5E9659C2_zps776eef5d.jpg)
I really like the stock on my Challenger and saw how Dan House mounted his Prod in one. All you need is the Challenger stock, an Mrod trigger group (I had a new one laying around) and a little bit of inletting. At Dan's suggestion I used a Forstner bit instead of the hole saw i was going to try. I measured a dozen times every which way, said a prayer, crossed my fingers and bore out a hole for the Prod gauge.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/6912745F-1133-4F82-8508-54AD6C44142F-6312-00000883FD93D324_zps7d0e486a.jpg)
The Forstner bit made a very clean, precise hole. I think the hole saw i was going to use would have hacked the edges a bit. Thanks, Dan.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/B597D507-3A15-4AE8-BFC6-BE864E853613-6312-000008841DFC959E_zps220a2f74.jpg)
Whew I measured correctly, lol. It lines up very well with about 1/16" clearance around the gauge. It is recessed quite a bit, but I can see it when I need to. I am thinking of putting a cover/cap of some sort on it if I can find the right diameter.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/95DED0B2-AAC9-4F06-8586-1264B60CBF2D-1912-0000022B35FE5DC0_zpsc08afc61.jpg)
The next bit of work needed is to either enlarge the existing slot for the barrel band, or cut a new one. The existing Challenger barrel band slot is pretty shallow. The Prod band is chunkier on the bottom. Making the existing slot deeper would likely cut into the cutouts in the forearm. I opted to cut a new slot further down the stock so it's between the cut outs, giving more material to cut into...see the Challenger here
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/8AD9DAF7-75B0-4C8F-AC50-12441F4A84CC-6359-0000088F1C78C57F_zps6be7851f.jpg)
I used a dremel to cut the new slot on the right. I kept the tolerance pretty tight around the band.
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/55AC03B9-F138-42B5-BC46-88DE3EA7DDFB-6312-000008843C1FF5E7_zpscd59ac9f.jpg)
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/ECEAD990-3499-40DB-81D8-490BE7BE4091-1912-0000022B8784E238_zpseedcb4f4.jpg)
All that was left was tapping a hole in the Mrod trigger pack for the Challenger trigger guard and its a drop in!
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/061284C8-7262-4979-A494-CC5CBD269DD3-1912-0000022B194ABA40_zpsd63fad39.jpg)
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/02A8C527-3389-4C51-BB4F-6CC7C2684FC0-1912-0000022AFD2A171E_zps29a5ee69.jpg)
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s665/fronzman/E59F2BE5-B52A-4219-9B7E-32FC21DB4EA3-1912-0000022B9A8A64E4_zpsc6cd87c0.jpg)
I threw on a bug buster I had, but I think it needs a bit bigger glass. Plus I don't like the short eye relief on this model. Notice I have the front ring as far back as I can get it and its still too forward for my liking. I have a bigger Centerpoint on its way.
It shoots great and has great balance and is short and light. The project cost me about 80 bucks- for the trigger guard, the stock mounting screw and the stock itself. (I got a great deal on the stock)
where did get the stock from? jpmoneyshot? i called crosman and they told me a price much higher than $80 for just the stock
Today i fitted an upgraded breech seal (from Germany) and a flush CO2 screw (from a friend) to my 1999 Makarov.
Picture http://instagram.com/p/dHJtwCEQiD/ (http://instagram.com/p/dHJtwCEQiD/)
Totals mods are
1999
Upgraded valve, upgraded breech seal, flush CO2 screw, Soviet Bakelite grips.
2011
Upgraded (enlarged) chamber, upgraded breech seal, flush CO2 screw
Both now putting out over 4.5 FtLbs and accuracy improved.
Took the 357 apart today for a minor repair...latch support went bad...will order part on Monday along with some other misc stuff I need for my other guns.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman357Repair_zpse9f94d85.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman357Repair_zpse9f94d85.jpg.html)
Sure wish there was more room in that valve. Would like to up the power on the 357. I have one almost ready for a .22 conversion. Yee haaa!
Be careful with the pelgun oil. When it gets on the rubber latch spring block, it will turn it to goo over time.
Rich
after returning two hatsan 25 superchargers (first one a .177 that had something rattleing around internally after putting 5 pellets through it, the second a .22 that averaged 465 fps with 14.3 CPHP's and it's rated at 600 fps) I finally got a keeper, back again to the .177 (rated at 700 fps by hatsan). Did a thorough barrel cleaning and put some pellets through it while checking velocity on chrony, I was very pleased. Changes will include modding open sights to an emergency minimum since I'm putting on a UTG red/green dot, camo paint job to the pistol, and modding some RB grips to work on this pistol (think I'll have to make some hybrid grip version using the stock ones and the RB ones). The RB grips are for a 2240 and I WILL make them work! Thought the grip color scheme would work well with a camo paint job to the rest of the pistol. Used 7.2 grain Beeman pellets for the velocity testing.
Quote from: cherokeesteve on August 19, 2013, 02:07:36 AM
after returning two hatsan 25 superchargers (first one a .177 that had something rattleing around internally after putting 5 pellets through it, the second a .22 that averaged 465 fps with 14.3 CPHP's and it's rated at 600 fps) I finally got a keeper, back again to the .177 (rated at 700 fps by hatsan).
Two bad Hatsans is troublesome. I was under the impression that quality had improved over the past several years. Glad you f ally got a keeper. Share some photos when you finish modding it up.
Quote from: arkmaker on August 19, 2013, 01:33:43 AM
Sure wish there was more room in that valve. Would like to up the power on the 357.
Me too...made a drop in .22 barrel for the 8" housing a while back, works as a single shot...less than impressive. :(
Al
Quote from: arkmaker on August 19, 2013, 01:33:43 AM
Be careful with the pelgun oil. When it gets on the rubber latch spring block, it will turn it to goo over time.
Rich
According to the serial number it was made Feb 1983. It is a one owner gun and has been in storage more or less its entire lifetime. I recently took it (came in a cardboard box) and another 1987 made 357 (still in the clamshell) out of storage for some shooting. The 1983 model latch support was mush and the 1987 model was rock hard and real hard to push the latch down to open. Instead of ordering the rubber piece I was thinking a guy could drill a shallow hole in the latch to hold a spring and go that route for a fix.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman357SerialNumber_zps955a44fa.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman357SerialNumber_zps955a44fa.jpg.html)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/_Crosman357_zpsb4883fa7.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/_Crosman357_zpsb4883fa7.jpg.html)
if that fix doesnt work be sure to get a few of the latch supports those things are the pits.. i managed to get a spring in mine worked like a charm. finding the right spring was a journey
Ed... quick hijack, where do I get seals for that new to me Crosman 262 carbine? Especially intrested in that loading gate seal/pellet holder for the future.
I'm guessing it might be the same seal as the old SSP250 pistol? Thanks :-*
Quote from: BDS on August 20, 2013, 02:47:56 PM
Ed... quick hijack, where do I get seals for that new to me Crosman 262 carbine? Especially intrested in that loading gate seal/pellet holder for the future.
I'm guessing it might be the same seal as the old SSP250 pistol? Thanks :-*
my local crosman service station has the seals. as far as the loading gate goes i think i bought out what was there then again he might have saved some for future repairs. a guy brought a ssp250 in for repair that was one of the things it needed he said he had all the parts then. that was a couple months ago
iirc i paid $4 a piece i really dont remember if you go to jg you will be paying quadruple that, i inquired there several years ago $12 for the part $1.50 surcharge ??? and $12.95 for shipping a part the weighs less than .25oz :o if b&b doesnt have it, i would start with bna, a&b,mac-1. i do know of another source but they are like jg only highe
someone on the green forum offered to make me some but i cant remember who that was either. yahoo forced me to upgrade when that happened i ost a bunch of valuable info and contacts
Quote from: 1377x on August 20, 2013, 06:06:57 PM
my local crosman service station has the seals. as far as the loading gate goes i think i bought out what was there then again he might have saved some for future repairs. a guy brought a ssp250 in for repair that was one of the things it needed he said he had all the parts then. that was a couple months ago
iirc i paid $4 a piece i really dont remember if you go to jg you will be paying quadruple that, i inquired there several years ago $12 for the part $1.50 surcharge ??? and $12.95 for shipping a part the weighs less than .25oz :o if b&b doesnt have it, i would start with bna, a&b,mac-1. i do know of another source but they are like jg only highe
someone on the green forum offered to make me some but i cant remember who that was either. yahoo forced me to upgrade when that happened i ost a bunch of valuable info and contacts
Ed, can you PM me with some help on these parts? Re: "local service station"? ;)
Today I knocked out a few more sets of grips,including this set of 1701-P's,and a "smoothed out"1377/22 pump arm.I'll be trying my hand at some 1399 stocks soon.Getting the techniques down,so I'm about ready to move ahead to more complex shapes.:)
REALLY Nice work, brother! :) :-*
I gotta 1399 primed and ready to go, too. The Backpacker fores are double dips (for us anyway) with wood grain and camo. The "skins" do fine with a single. The 1399 will be a double no matter what (and I hate masking, unmasking, re-masking).
Your work looks great... no doubt about it... but my daughter Ames is the film cutter and she is more anal and OCD than I am. I think she may be sneaking around studying chongman's work. :o So she is cutting the CF and wood grains so that the grain runs the same on both sides of grips... and then the fores follow that same line. Yours look good regardless of that. Maybe we are putting TOO much thought into it. ???
VERY nice Mark :-*
You and Dave are becoming film masters ;)
Those look great Mark.
Thanks guys. :) It's seeing all the fine work that the guys on the Forum do,that is a big part in keeping me motivated.Davio,I couldn't agree more.The 1399's definitely are a two hit deal.I spent a lot of time thinking about how to do a single hit with this piece,and see no way to do that,without creating those dreaded voids,due to water rushing in ahead of the film.If it was a solid stock it would be different.Brother I don't think there is such a thing as over thinking..A bad case of Crosmanitis,and natural attention to detail,and that's what happens naturally for us. ;D
Good points as well on pattern direction,and angle.I'm a bit OCD as well,and thought about it quite a bit.Initially my focus was on getting a good hit the first time around,controlling dip speed,and angles,and the other factors that go into a successful dip.Now I can concentrate more on pattern angles/alignment. :-* I'm making some guards for my tanks to keep the film stabilized on the water,which should help keep those angles in check a bit easier.
That is awesome that your daughter helps out with film cutting etc..very cool! My Wife makes Custom Jewelry,and is fascinated by the dipping process.I can almost see the cogs turning in her head.So naturally I plan on teaching her how to dip. :-*
Thanks for sharing that tip on rinsing with an extra tank..That really helps out as my rinse water source is located further away from my dip station..It saves a significant amount of time when processing multiple pieces. ;)
Mark, a little food for thought and consideration (nice way of saying take it or leave it ;))... make some thinwall CPVC "floats" with straits and elbows (make squares or rectangles to fit our parts). Get rid of the stinking tape! Cut 1" less both directions and it will grow to the floating edges. You don't even have to glue them.. so have just the straight lengths and a tiny pile of elbows.
Ames does a lot more than cut film. She is the dip witch! j/k she's a pretty 24 year old. Got her casting grips, cutting all the metal and delrin to length and getting the center lines bored for the lathe, taking pictures, doing all the parts pulling and packaging, you name it.
Back to dipping: AS you know most of the gurus advocate using the film itself for touch ups (activate and use paint brush). Oh HELL NO! Artists acrylic enamel. Water based. Does not reactivate the good that it touches, blends as good as YOU are at making the color, and causes no problems with the solvent or water based lacquers I use for top coats.
Like I said, take it or leave it. Lots of ways to skin a cat, you know. ;)
I didn't do the work yet, but I got a nice surprise today. About a month ago I asked the maintenance guy in the office building I work in to keep an eye out for aa metal electrical junction box for me about 12" x 12" for a pellet trap. They are remodeling the bathrooms and lobby.
I haven't even thought about lately and today he said he found one for me. I went down by the loading dock with him and locked in a caged in area he had the box below for me. The box was actually for sprinkler system controls and is very heavy and heavy duty. I think it might be powder coated.
It will be perfect and I thanked him profusely for it. He loves hot peppers and I'm gonna bring some cayennes from my garden for him.
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The small flat piece can be removed with just two screws.
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Nice score, Jerry. Off to Lowes or Home Depot for some duct seal.
That's gonna work great. Plus with the lock no one will snag your duct seal. ;D
Just saw this on the GTA site. Sounds good and cheaper than duct seal.
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=48257.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=48257.0)
Quote from: bgmcgee on August 24, 2013, 03:39:26 AM
That's gonna work great. Plus with the lock no one will snag your duct seal. ;D
I was wondering if anyone would notice the lock. :D
Good catch.
Quote from: BillK on August 24, 2013, 04:22:37 AM
Just saw this on the GTA site. Sounds good and cheaper than duct seal.
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=48257.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=48257.0)
I've read that thread but forgot about it. I do have an old hose too, hmmmm...
Great score on that.It's going to work great! :-*
I finally got around to making the mod/repair to the Crosman 357 barrel latch. The original had a rubber type block that had gone soft and the latch would not stayed closed. To do the mod/repair I drilled a 1/16" hole and epoxied a post in the latch to capture a small spring.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman357LatchRepair_zpsefc9fc26.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman357LatchRepair_zpsefc9fc26.jpg.html)
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It's great to fix the gun and make it BETTER than the original.
That latch is one (of a few) of the weak design items in those 357 guns, nice work :-*
good job on the latch fix
let us know how it works out over time
i gave up on the rubber spacer thing had 3 shred in a week got a new one and sold the 357 after that
it was the noise that was the contributing factor of the sale
Quote from: BDS on August 29, 2013, 10:50:14 PM
It's great to fix the gun and make it BETTER than the original.
That was my thought to when I saw it. Send those pics to Crosman!!!! :D
That is a great mod :-* :-*
I just hope I can remember it when I finally get around to finishing off the .22 model ;)
Finally got around to start modding my .177 Hatsan 25 Supercharger. Put alot of pellets through it and the chrony backs up Hatsan's claims of 700 fps with lead pellets (I used 7.2 grain Beemans). flat sanded a lot of wood off the backsides of the RB grips I'm putting on it. made up a small fixture to mount stock grips to so I could mill them down and use as spacers/filler for grip area the RB's didn't match up with. Had to take almost 1/4 inch off stock rubber grips and had some worries about face milling rubber, decided to go .015 per pass to avoid grips lifting and turning to rubber garbage. Pic of RB's on top of modded stock ones, not a perfect match but I'm good with it. Clean and lube internals. Started camo paint job. Tan base, green on top. Did brown this morning but no pics of that.
grip on grip, paint
Pretty impressive work Steve. Gonna look pretty cool when it's done.
Quote from: bgmcgee on August 30, 2013, 04:03:47 AM
Pretty impressive work Steve. Gonna look pretty cool when it's done.
Thanks. Will get pics up when it's done. Need to get other side painted, use a satin matte clear coat, drill second mounting holes in RB grips, mount dot sight. Trying not to rush, slow and steady wins the race. Then hoping the squirrels never see what hit them!
I cut up a garden hose, washed off the pieces and duct taped together to put in my new pellet trap.
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Lined the freshly built target trap with duct seal and took the first shots with the new PC77... And either I am
pulling everything or the cheap plastic sights suck. Next up is to install steel breech and upgraded rear sight.
Quote from: Tater on August 30, 2013, 04:54:12 AM
I cut up a garden hose, washed off the pieces and duct taped together to put in my new pellet trap.
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Looks like you might need to sharpen that steak knife, tater! ;)
Quote from: Davio on August 30, 2013, 05:47:17 AM
Looks like you might need to sharpen that steak knife, tater! ;)
Hehe, it was actually my cheap beater hacksaw with a very worn-down blade. Didn't want to use the good hacker cutting rubber.
Quote from: Tater on August 30, 2013, 04:54:12 AM
I cut up a garden hose, washed off the pieces and duct taped together to put in my new pellet trap.
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/blackhwkfan/20130829_213945_zpsf5c242c7.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/blackhwkfan/media/20130829_213945_zpsf5c242c7.jpg.html)
you have to keep us updated on how the hose works out for you
Yep need an updated hose report. ;D I'm still waiting on my brother to bring me a piece of conveyor belt from his rock plant. Going to give that a try I know it is some heavy duty stuff used it for bed mats in pickup trucks before and it lasts forever.
Sorted out my Umarex S&W wobbly grip. Great pistol but the clip of grips develops a wobble and cut into my hands.
This was a tip from IanG at the last IPAS event I was at. It's just metal putty pressed to shape, wipe inside of removable grip with oil (so it doesn't stick) and press together. Dried in about 30 mins and grip rock solid now.
http://instagram.com/p/doz86wEQjk/ (http://instagram.com/p/doz86wEQjk/)
And here's a couple pictures...
nice trap!
you gonna to fill it with anything? hose ;) , duct seal plastic bags
Quote from: 1377x on August 30, 2013, 05:02:18 PM
nice trap!
you gonna to fill it with anything? hose ;) , duct seal plastic bags
That box of duct seal in the first picture was installed last night... 6.5 lbs to exact.
dont have to worry about it tipping over :-*
Good looking trap vertguy. :-*
Nice trap vertguy :-* that trap with a fresh target and now I need some trigger time ;D
Quote from: 1377x on August 30, 2013, 05:02:18 PM
nice trap!
you gonna to fill it with anything? hose ;) , duct seal plastic bags
Oh, a wise guy. ;D ;D ;D
I'm still trying to decide if I should put carpet, magazines, old clothes or nothing but I will post results.
Very nice trap vertguy. :-*
Not much airgun related but making some rustic boxes for my niece's wedding. Need a favor from you guys. If I ever think about taking on a project with the wife please come over and slap me. ;D ;D Took almost 2 hours to make the first box, 1 3/4 hours for the wife to find the perfect wood 15 minutes to make the box. Still got a few more to make yeeeeeehhhaaaaaa! !!
(http://s20.postimg.org/9185zscql/Camera_ZOOM_20130830135833568.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hw90ab1ix/full/)
green shot (http://postimage.org/app.php)
Slap, slap ........ how many do you need to make ?
Put together a new-to-me belt buckle, a leather belt with a drill holster to drop in my PC77/1377 and P17. I rest the grip on the strap so the gun don't sink in so far. The buckle is a Remington (Sid Bell) from 1979. The belt is probably a little too small for me -- it did fit once :-[ but I like this setup.
2 cool ............... :-*
Quote from: KevinP on August 30, 2013, 11:05:22 PM
Slap, slap ........ how many do you need to make ?
Probably way to many. ;D ;D. Thanks for the slap I needed that. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on August 30, 2013, 11:11:06 PM
Probably way to many. ;D ;D. Thanks for the slap I needed that. :-*
anytime ........ :-* :-* if you want me to make a few just let me know ,,, but you will have to pay for shipping .............
Quote from: KevinP on August 30, 2013, 11:13:20 PM
anytime ........ :-* :-* if you want me to make a few just let me know ,,, but you will have to pay for shipping .............
I appreciate the offer. Wouldn't want to put you through that misery. ;D
cased up the PCP's and Hill Pump....
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/CrosmanPCPGuns_HillPump_Hardcase_zps0f0c0f49.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/CrosmanPCPGuns_HillPump_Hardcase_zps0f0c0f49.jpg.html)
Quote from: rws_53 on August 31, 2013, 05:58:10 AM
cased up the PCP's and Hill Pump....
Wow that looks nice :-* great job!
X2 - very impressive!!!
Quote from: rws_53 on August 31, 2013, 05:58:10 AM
cased up the PCP's and Hill Pump....
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/CrosmanPCPGuns_HillPump_Hardcase_zps0f0c0f49.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/CrosmanPCPGuns_HillPump_Hardcase_zps0f0c0f49.jpg.html)
Very nice and tidy setup. :-*
X2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Tater on August 30, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
Oh, a wise guy. ;D ;D ;D
I'm still trying to decide if I should put carpet, magazines, old clothes or nothing but I will post results.
Very nice trap vertguy. :-*
;D ;D
imo the hose could work been thinking about the gun range. they use chunks of tire with their backstop here, other places probably do, too
i think i would need more hose for my guns,well, except my 1377 that is less than 2-digit fpe but high single digit ;)
today i am going to work on a ldc that has been giving me problems. need to make the hole bigger for the pellet to go through. right now it is a very tight fit and the pellets clip. the sound dampening is great though. changes the pitch of the sound to a whistle that sounds pretty cool unlike any of my other ldc's which sound like a loose,muffled cough ;)
Installed my first batch of mods including a Crosman steel breech & LPA mim rear sight, Archer Airguns super sear, and Mac1 extended bolt handle & lighter trigger spring. The difference is night and day from the reduced trigger pull (along with less slop thanks to the washers in the super sear kit), to the increased accuracy from the much better rear sight. I was finally able to tighten up my target groupings and am very satisfied with the overall set-up. Enough so that I cancelled my Mellon and Cothran orders.
And since I was thinking about trying to make this into a carbine, I may just stop with the RB grips and order a Crosman DOB kit during the PA Labor Day sale :-*
Glad the results were so positive. With a shoulder stock, you essentially would have a DBO, but you can never just have one Crosman pistol, though.
Quote from: vertguy on August 31, 2013, 05:41:55 PM
Installed my first batch of mods including a Crosman steel breech & LPA mim rear sight, Archer Airguns super sear, and Mac1 extended bolt handle & lighter trigger spring. The difference is night and day from the reduced trigger pull (along with less slop thanks to the washers in the super sear kit), to the increased accuracy from the much better rear sight. I was finally able to tighten up my target groupings and am very satisfied with the overall set-up. Enough so that I cancelled my Mellon and Cothran orders.
And since I was thinking about trying to make this into a carbine, I may just stop with the RB grips and order a Crosman DOB kit during the PA Labor Day sale :-*
Yeah, I have thought about picking up the stock... but I also like the flexibility of the quick swap between pistol and stock with the DOB. And by the time I would buy the backpacker style stock, release pin and even the larger pump handle (which I like), I could almost have paid for the DOB. Along with having a 22 cal and a 2nd gun. Hindsight is always much clearer, but not like these toys are near as expensive as modding my car. Which will make the decision much easier. The only issue is explaining to my wife why I need multiple airguns as the original intent was to use it for critter control in the yard. Nothing like having options!
Ha, the wife .... every time I see her with a pair of new shoes I say they are nice, when did you get them.
always responds with " i have had them forever " I say the same thing to her, or
same gun different parts .... :-*
Quote from: vertguy on August 31, 2013, 06:14:33 PM
The only issue is explaining to my wife why I need multiple airguns as the original intent was to use it for critter control in the yard.
Just tell her it is a "backup gun"...you know, just in case the first one happens to have "issues"... ;)
My wife is used to it with the car modding as FedEx or UPS seems to leave packages by my garage very regularly. So she will give me grief, but in the end she is fine with my hobbies.
Quote from: HappyHunter on August 31, 2013, 06:27:23 PM
Just tell her it is a "backup gun"...you know, just in case the first one happens to have "issues"... ;)
Now that idea I like!!
Quote from: KevinP on August 31, 2013, 06:27:07 PM
Ha, the wife .... every time I see her with a pair of new shoes I say they are nice, when did you get them.
always responds with " i have had them forever " I say the same thing to her, or
same gun different parts .... :-*
LOL I get the exact same thing. 90 pairs of shoes and they've all been had "forever". >:(
90 ... ? is that all ..... ;D ;D ;D
i have a barrel with the best leade ever see below
did a little work to it, this is how it looks now
Ed, you need to shoot more. That looks like spider webs inside your barrel.LOL ;D
Quote from: mudduck48 on August 31, 2013, 08:42:18 PM
Ed, you need to shoot more. That looks like spider webs inside your barrel.LOL ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: mudduck48 on August 31, 2013, 08:42:18 PM
Ed, you need to shoot more. That looks like spider webs inside your barrel.LOL ;D
x2 ;D ;D ;D
Man if those are spider webs in that first pic I wouldn't want to meet that spider. ;D
Quote from: bgmcgee on August 31, 2013, 10:04:27 PM
Man if those are spider webs in that first pic I wouldn't want to meet that spider. ;D
Naw! That's belly button lint. And you wouldn't want to meet that navel, either. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Davio on September 01, 2013, 01:46:42 AM
Naw! That's belly button lint. And you wouldn't want to meet that navel, either. ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D :D ;D ;D
Quote from: Davio on September 01, 2013, 01:46:42 AM
Naw! That's belly button lint. And you wouldn't want to meet that navel, either. ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Davio on September 01, 2013, 01:46:42 AM
Naw! That's belly button lint. And you wouldn't want to meet that navel, either. ;D ;D ;D
Now we know how Ed polished the leade :o :D
Ground a groove in a hammer and mounted a rear screw long steel breech to my not so stock anymore 2240. Also, mounted a 10" .22 barrel, Archer rear site, mellon pa and blue fork trigger frame. Was going to wait until I had the cash for the other BF stuff, but, well you know how it is ;)
Still needs the BF Breech & front site, some valve work, a good rear site, an LDC and just maybe this puppy is wanting a BF wire stock?
Well, when I finally get it finished, BF will have my wallet!!
Edit: added not so good pics
Rich
Quote from: mudduck48 on August 31, 2013, 08:42:18 PM
Ed, you need to shoot more. That looks like spider webs inside your barrel.LOL ;D
you are funny!
i just cleaned up the chatter marks on the lead and did a little polishing. there is a pellet stuck in the other end.
when i find a use for the barrel it will be cleaned of the spider webs ;)
Quote from: arkmaker on September 01, 2013, 03:12:27 AM
Ground a groove in a hammer and mounted a rear screw long steel breech to my not so stock anymore 2240. Also, mounted a 10" .22 barrel, Archer rear site, mellon pa and blue fork trigger frame. Was going to wait until I had the cash for the other BF stuff, but, well you know how it is ;)
Still needs the BF Breech & front site, some valve work, a good rear site, an LDC and just maybe this puppy is wanting a BF wire stock?
Well, when I finally get it finished, BF will have my wallet!!
Edit: added not so good pics
Rich
Looks like the start of a real nice shooter there Rich. Greg will be happy with ya too. ;D
99.9% of the time I shoot my guns off hand before bench resting them. Just me. I just took 12 sots. 4 of them as site in and 8 towards the bull. With the rear site adjusted all the way down and aiming at the red bull, this is what I ended up with. Look like a couple of clicks to the right on the rear site and the front pin needs to come up a bit. I did not adjust the front pin as I have it set for another gun. I will eventually make a new LDC for this one though.
This is not to awful bad shooting for me offhand @ 5M (4 of them in a ragged hole). There were no flyers, This was all me and my post 4 cups of java shooting ;D
Crosman Premier Ultra Magnum .22's and loaded one after the other. No time waited in between shots except to load and target acquisition. I transferred the target onto another sheet hoping the holes would show better, but maybe should have left it alone and took a pic right on the duct seal. Live and learn. On to the honey do list now ;)
Rich
yep looks like a good shooter to me. :-*
Nice shooting Rich. :-* :-* :-*
If I get a chance, I am going to bench it tomorrow and see what the accuracy really is. Looking at that breech picture, I see that that was one of the parts that I used the blue wonder on. That stuff works great on some steel and not so good on others. This breech must be one of the others ;D No worries as it functions well.
I like that BC shoot n' see avatar Rich
Sometimes it's better to work good than to look good. :-*
I tore apart the 2100 that I scored awhile back for free. I never took is all the way down before just cleaned and lubed it. This time I tore it down completely. The valve had been worked on before as someone used silicone to seal it. The orings were nicked and looked like viton so I had some buna orings to replace them with. I got it all cleaned up, new orings and seems to be good. What a p.i.t.a. getting that thing back together.
Camo'd out the Hatsan 25 Supercharger
Very cool those tree rats will never see you coming. :-*
Looks good Steve. I like the camp on that pistol than the black for sure. :-*
Been trying different x-probe bolts on my 2240 to find one that seats the pellet just beyond the port. Problem is aligning the barrel and breech hole every time to replace the breech on the tube. My original plan was to drill and tap the plastic breech for a set screw. The problem with that was if I needed to return the gun for repairs, they might reject it due to mods. So I looked in my parts drawer and found some sheets of steel shim stock. I took the thinnest one (.025) cut a small piece and put it on the upper portion of the barrel. I inserted the barrel into the breech and it held it tight enough to keep the barrel hole aligned with the breech hole. Simple fix :-*
Cool idea. If you still want to still and tap it and tbhen find out you happen to need to send it back I'll give you another plastic breech.
Just finished restoring an old Daisy 880. The recievicer was black,but look at it now!1 :) :) Been working on my polishing skills. I didn't know I could see myself in it till I down loaded the pic to my computer. LOL :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Now that's what I call shiny. Nice work. :-*
Nice work Trophy :-* good portrait too ;D
Nice job !!!!!!!!!!!!! :-*
Great polish job there. I noticed the reflection immediately (that means you did good). :-*
Thanks Guys. If I had known I was showing up in it I would have been dressed up . :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
working on a ldc was almost done when a problem happened >:(
now i have to start over
Did just a little Dremeling of the sear and trigger in my new 1322. Usual seams removed, a little polish oil on pins. Feels smoother, didn't do anything else as all is night and tight.
I also refitted and polished my 2300 trigger (couldn't help myself) and removed the .22 case I had on trigger spring. It's actually improved it.
For the 1322 the spring seems to heavy to me and I was wondering does anyone know what size to buy to replace (on ebay as it will hopefully translate to a supplier here in the UK)
Thanks :-*
Fluke but just did a search and found this http://bit.ly/164SAyZ (http://bit.ly/164SAyZ) #ebayipad looks ok (shims useful too) what do you guys think?
Over past couple days: added Chavka barrel band with 11 inch barrel on my 1377, reworked stock trigger and sear, added RB pump grip and painted it with grips a krylon Oregeno green-NICE color....Grips still drying. More ahead. BE Coooool, Dave
Quote from: 1377x on September 06, 2013, 02:47:37 PM
working on a ldc was almost done when a problem happened >:(
now i have to start over
Damn...don't ya just HATE when that happens?!?! :-X
Always seems to happen to me too when I'm
almost done, never when I'm just starting out >:(
Quote from: HappyHunter on September 07, 2013, 03:58:24 AM
Damn...don't ya just HATE when that happens?!?! :-X
Always seems to happen to me too when I'm almost done, never when I'm just starting out >:(
EXACTLY!!!
i am so frustrated i left it for now. i'll work on it after my temper has cooled down some
as i was taking it apart a couple pieces were damaged. now i have to make them again but at least i found out one part is pretty tough and will be the replacement material for the broken pieces. i hope i have enough material, i would hate to have to spend $1 for more material ;) ;D
Got the Stubby 2240 back to full function with a SS 6mm set screw TP and a new SS hammer pin. Love this mod :-*
Now to find a place to shoot it!!!
Rich
Not my valve picture (borrowed from the GTA thread), but it is my Stubby!
Just managed to snap the allen wrench off in the tiny breech screw ... >:(
at least it's flush and the gun still functions .... :)
project for another day ..... :-*
Oh, I was going to replace it with a slotted stainless one .....
Quote from: KevinP on September 07, 2013, 03:50:04 PM
Just managed to snap the allen wrench off in the tiny breech screw ... >:(
at least it's flush and the gun still functions .... :)
project for another day ..... :-*
Oh, I was going to replace it with a slotted stainless one .....
Bummer! :(
Quote from: KevinP on September 07, 2013, 03:50:04 PM
Just managed to snap the allen wrench off in the tiny breech screw ... >:(
at least it's flush and the gun still functions .... :)
project for another day ..... :-*
Oh, I was going to replace it with a slotted stainless one .....
Kevin if you need some I have some ss slotted 4-48 breech screws. Just PM me. :)
I love the stubbie!! :-\
Quote from: Bazmati2020 on September 08, 2013, 12:10:40 AM
I love the stubbie!! :-\
Thanks, Actually, it was a gift. One that will not leave me before I die. That picture shows a long breech on it, but right now it is sporting the stock plastic breech. I have a friend that I am going to try to recruit to do a deep hole aluminum breech so that the barrel is invisible as the breech will extend to the site. It's another thought I had in the middle of the night :D Maybe it will end up Glockish looking??
Quote from: arkmaker on September 08, 2013, 12:33:58 AM
Thanks, Actually, it was a gift. One that will not leave me before I die. That picture shows a long breech on it, but right now it is sporting the stock plastic breech. I have a friend that I am going to try to recruit to do a deep hole aluminum breech so that the barrel is invisible as the breech will extend to the site. It's another thought I had in the middle of the night :D Maybe it will end up Glockish looking??
Sort of like a Stace breech? That would be a great one off design. Maybe an integrated barrel band, too.
I was thinking of a bottom half that would hide the entire tube as well. Really square and Glockish :-*
I might lose the disco round half of the front site and only use the top fiber optics part?
Dang, I'd part with some cash for a "deep hole" breech for a 1911 look :-*
i did a trigger mod
took my pot metal trigger and added a wide brass face to it via jbweld. it is surprising to me how well this stuff works
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/widebrassblade.jpg) (http://s613.photobucket.com/user/edf73/media/airguns/widebrassblade.jpg.html)
as nice as it feels it wasnt enough. out came the jbweld again this time to add a face to the face :-\. functionally it is great cosmetically it, well, i have no words for it
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/1154b24e-0532-4f30-a877-d42585585997_zps5e74dfdd.jpg) (http://s613.photobucket.com/user/edf73/media/airguns/1154b24e-0532-4f30-a877-d42585585997_zps5e74dfdd.jpg.html)
Well, took the folding stock off the dragon, didn't like the looks of it..
it has a Art's shack power adjuster and muzzle brake ( nice stuff )
GMAC trigger and safety
Congman bolt handle - awesome ...
This is the gun that I was going to put a DC bolt probe and a 12 in barrel ...( has a 14.5 on it now)
but allen wrench broke off flush with the stupid breech bolt...
when I have time I will dig it out ...........
Think you were right about the stock. Looking real nice. :-*
I think it looks much better like that too Kevin.
KevinP, that's a sensational looking shooter, and the muzzle brake is a different 'twist'. I tuned my Beeman R9 to get rid of the twang, though it didn't seem to affect accuracy, it sounds better. RC
Thanks ... it is a good shooter ... think I should keep the 14.5 barrel on it ?
Personally I think it looks just right. :-*
like them both gentlemen. stubby is cool and.i like the look of.that snake skin.
I managed to get 3 coats of tung oil on the Sears pumper. I'm liking how it is looking not sure if it needs any more.
Replaced the 24' barrel w/ a shorter one..Also tried the Burris red dot on my pcp :-*
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Looking good Mr.Crossliner :-*
Thank you sir..The barrel came from my 1377..I have 2 extra brand new and never been mounted Crosman barrels in .177, both 24' in length but I do not have the heart to have them cut..It is not easy to acquire them here in the Phils. lots of my friends have been bugging me to sell it to them lol! Regards.
looks very well balanced senor crossliner but the red dot looks a bit lost on the AA
i've been fitting a piece of .20 sheridan barrel to one of my king ratties but not sure if i'm goinging to go any further with it ,i think it'll go back in the spares/junk box as its grouping like a scattergun at 20yds
might try to put a choke on it and will try a few different pellets first though
ped
using the info/guide by nervoustrigger here ....
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n3ro6yphs4ql2l4/orhYCuIPBw/Crosman%202289%20mods.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n3ro6yphs4ql2l4/orhYCuIPBw/Crosman%202289%20mods.pdf)
..... i just tightened up my barrel band shimming it with a ginger ale can , took 6 strips for me . it feels tighter , but i'll find out tomorrow how much it helps because it too late to shoot now .
Quote from: ped on September 21, 2013, 10:38:10 PM
looks very well balanced senor crossliner but the red dot looks a bit lost on the AA
i've been fitting a piece of .20 sheridan barrel to one of my king ratties but not sure if i'm goinging to go any further with it ,i think it'll go back in the spares/junk box as its grouping like a scattergun at 20yds
might try to put a choke on it and will try a few different pellets first though
ped
Yes sir indeed :)
Good luck on your Sheridan. Regards.
Quote from: DBOdude on September 22, 2013, 01:02:22 AM
using the info/guide by nervoustrigger here ....
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n3ro6yphs4ql2l4/orhYCuIPBw/Crosman%202289%20mods.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n3ro6yphs4ql2l4/orhYCuIPBw/Crosman%202289%20mods.pdf)
..... i just tightened up my barrel band shimming it with a ginger ale can , took 6 strips for me . it feels tighter , but i'll find out tomorrow how much it helps because it too late to shoot now .
Nervoustrigger makes nice guides. I just bookmarked that one, thanks for the link.
Now THAT is a really nice write-up format (whether all mods and methods are endorsed or not). Thanks for that link. I added it to the "collection". :)
it's a bit breezy here today but did some shooting to try the mod . my "groups" did seem to get tighter .... except when i shot with the breeze . i did have to slightly adjust the scope , but i got quite a few that were touching and a few seemed to go in the same hole . those were probably luck because i was shooting at about 18 yards , but they were (as best as i recall) smaller than before and the barrel band doesn't seem to wiggle when pumping anymore . i'll come back and give my results when the air is still .
Just fitted a new red dot to my Umarex 1911
http://instagram.com/p/em8zIikQn5/ (http://instagram.com/p/em8zIikQn5/)
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Very nice Baz. Looks like a good one. :-*
"What work did you just do?"
Working on building two new Silent Pellet Traps.
I just made a silent pellet trap the other day.I filled a cardboard box with a bag of rubber mulch I got for $2 from Walmart works great no pass thru either.
A couple key parts arrived today so I was able to swap in my 14 in .177 barrel, BFD barrel band and o-ring style pivot pin. Now I heading to the basement to see how the new set-up shoot.
Quote from: vertguy on September 24, 2013, 02:44:59 AM
A couple key parts arrived today so I was able to swap in my 14 in .177 barrel, BFD barrel band and o-ring style pivot pin. Now I heading to the basement to see how the new set-up shoot.
Cool deal Gonna need pics and range report or like it has been said before "it didn't happen" ;D
Quote from: bgmcgee on September 24, 2013, 02:48:31 AM
Cool deal Gonna need pics and range report or like it has been said before "it didn't happen" ;D
Oh yeah... posting pics and details in my build thread.
Last night I worked on my Benjamin 312, was made in 1962. It was in my recent craigslist score, was missing the pivot pin so you couldn't tell if it worked or not, so I made a pivot pin (3/16" stainless rod cut to length), took some 0000 steel wool and oil to it (was already missing all it's original finish, and the patina wasn't even), took some steel wool to the stock (was rough, but finish was fine) and adjusted the bolt seal. It holds air pretty good, very minor leak but I put it up to 10 pumps over night to see if that would help, someone had been in it fairly recently for a reseal as the piston seal was rubber instead of leather, pump cycle isn't as efficient as there is a lot of head space in that style seal. The rubber pump cup was loose but very pliable so I stretched the outer ring to seal better, when I started it would barely pump up, now it seals very well.
Anyway, another gem in the lot :), it's not going anywhere just like the Blue Streak, 140, 1400, 130, and both 180's :)
just for kicks and giggles i added a set screw to the top of a stock plasctic breech. it turned out pretty good despite it was done freehand
the barrel stays aligned ,no shifting,rolling zero slop
imo a mod worth doing if you are going to be using the plastic breech for a while
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Just came in from three hours of trigger time. Squirrel season opens here in the mornig and I can't deside on which AG to use. O so many and not enough of me to go around LOL ;D ;D I guess I'll figure it out in the morning.
Quote from: 1377x on September 27, 2013, 10:39:53 PM
just for kicks and giggles i added a set screw to the top of a stock plasctic breech. it turned out pretty good despite it was done freehand
the barrel stays aligned ,no shifting,rolling zero slop
imo a mod worth doing if you are going to be using the plastic breech for a while
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/edf73/airguns/b1757a74-62a3-43cf-9623-bc487ee1b741_zpsfd2c5d6a.jpg) (http://s613.photobucket.com/user/edf73/media/airguns/b1757a74-62a3-43cf-9623-bc487ee1b741_zpsfd2c5d6a.jpg.html)
Good one Ed :-* That solves the problem for guys who want to use those barrel clamp scope mounts, as long as the scope is not too big/heavy?
i've just recently bought gary's custom stocked 2260 even though gary packed it extremely well our "extremely efficient and carefull" parcel farce managed to break the trigger blade of the marauder trigger unit
so after a call to ASI the crosman importer for the uk i found that they didn't carry any spares at all so my only choice was to make one heres my attempt i've beefed it up considerably around the area where the original broke which i feel is a bad design
i've since polished it up and fitted it to the action i'm using but might have to make a mk2 version that is a bit longer
ped
Wow awesome work there Ped. :-*Definitely an improvement.
Nice job ... :-*
That's a great job! :-*
Let 'em try and break that one! Won't happen :)
Been trying to dial in the BSA red dot on the Dragon this morning ... POI keeps changing ?
well one set was I was running low on co2 ... but it must be the red dot ?
mount is solid ... any other ideas ... has always been spot on. Well I guess It could be
a dirty barrel ... * guess I am thinking out loud * :)
cheers lads i'm quite happy with its performance and feel but i should have made it 1/4" longer as it just doesn't look right now the action is in the stock,maybe the mkII will be more of a target style one
ped
Quote from: ped on September 28, 2013, 11:28:43 PM
i've just recently bought gary's custom stocked 2260 even though gary packed it extremely well our "extremely efficient and carefull" parcel farce managed to break the trigger blade of the marauder trigger unit
so after a call to ASI the crosman importer for the uk i found that they didn't carry any spares at all so my only choice was to make one heres my attempt i've beefed it up considerably around the area where the original broke which i feel is a bad design
i've since polished it up and fitted it to the action i'm using but might have to make a mk2 version that is a bit longer
ped
glad you posted this i just found some info on a replacement trigger from tko. they no longer make the trigger but have the files for anyone to use
i guess you contact tko and they will get them to you. look on the lower right side of page
http://tko22.com/parts.html (http://tko22.com/parts.html)
cheers ed i saw this when i was looking for a custom replacement but never opened it ,maybe i should have done then i wouldn't be considering a mkII version still its all part of the rich tapestry of life
ped
the trigger you made is pretty nice!
at least you know this one isnt going to break as easy.
Just finished assembly on my Crosman Recruit... made the way Crosman should have from the factory :).
Start with a stock Recruit, add a Powermaster 66 barrel (rifled instead of smooth, drop in replacement), custom flat top piston and pinned valve (and pin in the piston to take up more head space). The pellet clips are handy, in this configuration this thing has some serious power! Other than my time to make the parts I only have $25 in the gun, $5 for the clips, and $8.22 for the barrel, not bad for $40...
changed the head on my piston it now has a mac-1 replacement and is installed in my 1377
Had the check valve in my 1322 leaking down and replaced it. Having trouble getting it sighted back in!!! >:( >:( >:(
I repaired a Daisy CO2 200 that was leaking....heard there may be a BB comp coming soon so figured I better get it fixed. :-*
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/DaisyCO2200Repair_zpsf32c66d2.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/DaisyCO2200Repair_zpsf32c66d2.jpg.html)
Cool beans. Ehere did you find the parts??
Worked on my 1750 project tonight I got the valve in hammer in everything right up to putting the breech on only to find out I have to take it apart again to remove a small portion of valve because it blocks the screw for the breech.Well maybe someday this thing will be together. :(
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 02, 2013, 01:09:13 AM
Cool beans. Ehere did you find the parts??
I just replaced the o-ring indicated by arrow...bottom arrow shows the bad one. Found the best fitting one at my local implement parts department.
I was wondering what that was that the bottom arrow was pointing to. Guess it was time to replace that oring. ;D
Got another Hatsan 25 Supercharcher. Gave this one a winter camo paint job and machined up a laser mounting ring for the scope.
Nice Steve. :-* Now you need 2 more to cover all the seasons ;D
That came out great Steve, nice job on it.
Thanks, very pleased with how it came out looks wise. Just hope the scope mounts stay put.
Now that looks like a nice looker ... :-* more pic ?
I finally got my 1750 hpa project together.I won't be able to shoot it till I get a pump or a regulater set up for a tank of nitrogen that I have same price for both almost hopefully soon.I did have to releive the valve some for the 4-48 screw in the breech.
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It has a dc tube
2300 hammer
crosman steel breech
disco valve
1701 grip frame
LW 177 barrel
wgrs54 rearsight
760 fiber optic front sight
Painted 1701 grips
also an extended probe by Carl
Very nice,I like it. I used the same sights on my 2550 :-*.
Looking very fine I like that rear sight great job. I can't wait to see her numbers.
Mike
cut some screws down to use in my prototype barrel band it came in handy. have to inlet the stock for it. tapper the marauder trigger group so i could mount the challenger trigger gaurd
Thanks. Found a nice case at Bass Pro Shop (for a dissassembled shotgun) that fits two of these pistols perfectly, even with the optics on.
I like that case. :-* :-* :-*
Nice clean looking build Tom :-* that's beautiful!
Ed, how's your testing going ???
Quote from: WyoMan on October 09, 2013, 06:04:00 AM
Nice clean looking build Tom :-* that's beautiful!
Ed, how's your testing going ???
its been cold and rainy have not had a chance to do any yet. the only thing i got to do is dispatch a nutter. i see why the lw barrels are liked so much
i think its supposed to be in the 60's and clear today hope to get something done. cant tear my 1377 apart until i get a "baseline"
I put a LW barrel on one of my 13xx's and it can shoot a really good group every time if I don't mess up
I can shoot a really good group every now and then with the crosman barrels but not every time get some fliers and some 1/2" off
the diffrence I notice is the bore is tighter, the choke obviously, and the rifling is deeper....machining is smoother too but that can be worked out of the crosman barrels
Hope you get some good weather :-*
just fitted a full length "barrel cover" to my as2250 as of yet i haven't tested it for clipping as i've tried a different internal barrel support but it has reduced its bark considerably
top is my .25 this one is .22 once i'm happy i'll cover it with shrink tube
ped
i have a 12" .177 barrel thats basically new never got to do anything to it other than paint it. it doesnt look anything like the lw. i need to do something with it looks like i have to build a gun around a barrel ;).
with the lw barrel even with the bent skirts its still hitting where it is supposed to
looks good today gotta get some trigger time in
looking good! cant wait to see it covered ped!
That looks very nice ped. :-* :-* :-*
Here's a preview. I should be finished tonight!!! I'm pretty excited about it, because I've been planning this build and doing a ton of work for the past few months. In the end it's really nothing special, but it was fun to plan and execute. I'll post about it later when everything finalized...
Quote from: woody67 on October 10, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
Here's a preview. I should be finished tonight!!! I'm pretty excited about it, because I've been planning this build and doing a ton of work for the past few months. In the end it's really nothing special, but it was fun to plan and execute. I'll post about it later when everything finalized...
Blanco Negro :-*
Lost the OEM turret caps, the maid's kid played w/ it..My fault coz I forgot to install them back so I had 2 ss versions made for me for $5 each labor and mats :-* The design is simple and nothing to clamor about but the workmanship is very nice. I am gonna have the pair brushed finish though as they are too shiny..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_1759_zps939cf73e.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_1759_zps939cf73e.jpg.html)
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Quote from: crossliner on October 11, 2013, 01:39:20 PM
Lost the OEM turret caps, the maid's kid played w/ it..My fault coz I forgot to install them back so I had 2 ss versions made for me for $5 each labor and mats :-* The design is simple and nothing to clamor about but the workmanship is very nice. I am gonna have the pair brushed finish though as they are too shiny..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_1759_zps939cf73e.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_1759_zps939cf73e.jpg.html)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_1760_zps491bbbf6.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_1760_zps491bbbf6.jpg.html)
Love those caps Sir!! Well done CL :-*
Thanks Mr. BE and welcome back again :-*
Off topic I have not seen Mr. BreakFastChef around ???
Just got done rebuilding the 1377. It was shooting fine this morning but wouldn't pump up this afternoon. It's all good now. :-*
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/MudDuckScrew003_zps6c7f51af.jpg) (http://s960.photobucket.com/user/rangerfredbob/media/Other%20toys/MudDuckScrew003_zps6c7f51af.jpg.html)
I just made something for a certain Duck of the mud.. now his 130 can be complete :). That's a custom stainless steel shoulder screw with 4-48 threads, slot was cut with a hack saw, rest done with my 7x12" lathe...
Good job. :-* :-* :-*
I can honestly say that's the smallest thing I've made on my lathe from scratch, especially thread wise... and I did it on my first try :)
Nice work Ranger. :-* I'm sure Mr. Duck will be mighty happy.
nice work mate those caps look good too senor crossliner
ped
Quote from: rangerfredbob on October 12, 2013, 05:49:00 AM
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I just made something for a certain Duck of the mud.. now his 130 can be complete :). That's a custom stainless steel shoulder screw with 4-48 threads, slot was cut with a hack saw, rest done with my 7x12" lathe...
very nice! much better than stock
glad you was able to help mudduck out
QUACK,QUACK,QUACK!!! Yes, very happy :-\ I want to thank every one that has helped me on my 1300 project. Just waiting for parts to get here and I'll have this thing working again. While I'm waiting, I think I'll work the trigger over a little. Once, again, thank y'all.
Quote from: rangerfredbob on October 12, 2013, 05:49:00 AM
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I just made something for a certain Duck of the mud.. now his 130 can be complete :). That's a custom stainless steel shoulder screw with 4-48 threads, slot was cut with a hack saw, rest done with my 7x12" lathe...
Nice work , I know Duck was very HAPPY.
I got Black Opps 1322 carbine out today for a little shooting time and it would not pump up !! Took it apart and repalced the check valve , put in all new seals and o-rings and spring. Got it back together and shooting again. Now I have to resite it and it will good to go !
Here is one of my new 2400kt setups.
This one is quite simple...the only thing I did to this one was add a TKO brake, refinish the stock and foregrip, and install a weaver rail/sling mount stud and bipod.
The stock was sanded smooth, coated with truck bed liner coating, then finished with a hammered metal textured paint.
The scope is a 3-9x32 Bug Buster
Oh, I forgot to mention, this is a .177
I really didn't think I'd ever mess around with this caliber, but it's been a fun week with this gun.
I don't think I'll keep it for too long...might sell it along with the silver build and mess with a prod again. I don't know yet...
Looks good woody :-* ....also looks like my work area the same stuff I use ;D
Nice shooter there Woody. :-* Always good to have1 .177 in the stable to have some cheap shooting fun.
started making a couple of bits for my new 13xx build a stainless bolt handle made from an old 5/16 bolt and a flat top piston made from an old air valve(shown in pic)
not really happy with the slot in the piston as the only 4mm end mill i could find was nearly cream crackered i'll probally mill it 6mm them use spacers to take up the slack
i've tried to incoporate a felt oiler in the piston wether this is needed i don't know as none of the other pistons i've seen have one
ped
Nice job on the piston ped. :-* :-* :-*
the felt oiler doesnt help imo, thats why crosman stopped using them on their stock piston
a delrin ring seems to be the common replacement for the wipe.
my flat top piston is a phase 1 760 piston. it has the felt but i rarely use it
Good looking parts there ped. :-* Seems that somehow I have turned into the airgun go-to guy here. ;D. My sons friend that gave me the Sears gun brought over a gamo springer that he said wouldn't shoot right. All that it needed was a good barrel cleantand better scope. I had a leapers mini swat that I was going to use on the Chinese beeman sitting here so I put that on the gamo. It pretty much drives nails with h&n barracudas. Shot those 10.6 grain pellets at a consistent 750+fps and was blowing holes through3/4" plywood. Next up is a rws springer that he says shoots ok but has been sitting for awhile. Looking like I am going to need a spring compressor soon. :P. Anyways he didn't want the Sears gun back so that's a plus and he also told me he can get airguns at dealer costs too. Could be a work for guns kind of deal here. I'm starting to have fun here. :-*
cheers ed i knew you'd know if the oiler was worth fitting
cheers bg parts aren't brilliant but as they were made from recycled bits i'm reasonably happy the bolt handle is know where near as good as what michael makes and the flat top might be remade when i get some brass stock and some new cutters but for now i'll fit it and see how well it performs,going to do the valve tonight and give it a test
as long as you enjoy doing it bg its fun but sometimes if your doing lots of work for others it becomes a chore one of the reasons i very rarely make parts for anyone but myself
ped
Quote from: 1377x on October 21, 2013, 08:46:50 AM
the felt oiler doesnt help imo, thats why crosman stopped using them on their stock piston
a delrin ring seems to be the common replacement for the wipe.
my flat top piston is a phase 1 760 piston. it has the felt but i rarely use it
Being new here I am hesitant but I respectfully disagree
The piston/cup needs lubed (it also helps seal) and not only does the oiler/wiper provide longer intervals between the need to oil, it provides consistency.
One drop of oil then five shots with my 2100b and each pellet dropped 1/8"-1/4" from the last...
this review also states how quickly the 2100b falls off...
I am pretty sure the reason is the lack of a wiper/oiler.
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2012/01/crosman-2100b-multi-pump-air-rifle-part-2/ (http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2012/01/crosman-2100b-multi-pump-air-rifle-part-2/)
thats fine but in my case the cup stays lubed i drop 2 drops in probably every 1000 pumps. dont oil again until no lube shows. none of my o-ring style pistons had an oil wiper they stayed lubed just like my cup piston only the o-ring wears faster but that problem has been solved.
this is my experience and as we all know experience varies with these guns and shooters. my 2100 rarely needed lube also. i pump very slow so the gun doesnt heat up or wear parts faster. when i used to pump fast the lube would turn black dont know what that is debris melting o-ring idk ???
my cup lasted about 3-4 years with lot and lots of pumping and very little oil.
The other day I fixed up the Crosman 1400, it was missing the pump linkage, and the piston cup was done... So I took some 1/8" by 1/2" flat bar and cut it to length and drilled the appropriate holes at the end, the pivot hole at the pump arm was wallowed out so it got drilled to 1/4" and a new pin made from 1/4" SS rod, to make mushrooming the ends easier I drilled shallow holes in from each end, worked well. For the piston, I didn't want to wait for parts so I chucked some 5/8" aluminum in the lathe and made an O ring conversion piece like the Mac1 design just out of aluminum, loctited it in place then adjusted the piston length. The thing works great now, the only thing it needs is screws and a ramp for the rear sight, just need to find some 3/32" aluminum and I'll make a ramp, hoping to find screws locally so I don't have to make or order them.
I also just resealed the Blue streak on Saturday, haven't been home with daylight since I did that to shoot it, but it holds air nicely now.
Sounds like you have been busy there rfb.Cool work. :-*
Quote from: ped on October 21, 2013, 07:25:55 PM
cheers ed i knew you'd know if the oiler was worth fitting
cheers bg parts aren't brilliant but as they were made from recycled bits i'm reasonably happy the bolt handle is know where near as good as what michael makes and the flat top might be remade when i get some brass stock and some new cutters but for now i'll fit it and see how well it performs,going to do the valve tonight and give it a test
as long as you enjoy doing it bg its fun but sometimes if your doing lots of work for others it becomes a chore one of the reasons i very rarely make parts for anyone but myself
ped
Looks good! Don't forget to oil the linkage. :-*
Quote from: rangerfredbob on October 22, 2013, 06:21:52 AM
The other day I fixed up the Crosman 1400, it was missing the pump linkage, and the piston cup was done... So I took some 1/8" by 1/2" flat bar and cut it to length and drilled the appropriate holes at the end, the pivot hole at the pump arm was wallowed out so it got drilled to 1/4" and a new pin made from 1/4" SS rod, to make mushrooming the ends easier I drilled shallow holes in from each end, worked well. For the piston, I didn't want to wait for parts so I chucked some 5/8" aluminum in the lathe and made an O ring conversion piece like the Mac1 design just out of aluminum, loctited it in place then adjusted the piston length. The thing works great now, the only thing it needs is screws and a ramp for the rear sight, just need to find some 3/32" aluminum and I'll make a ramp, hoping to find screws locally so I don't have to make or order them.
I also just resealed the Blue streak on Saturday, haven't been home with daylight since I did that to shoot it, but it holds air nicely now.
that i would like to see
any pics?
Of the O ring adapter? no pics, it looks just like the Mac1 version except I kept the stock aluminum washer on, and mine is aluminum, presses on the stock aluminum stub with a little loctite, just like on a 13XX there is minimal space in front of the O ring for reduced head space (I didn't measure how far). I'll try to get pics of the gun tonight of what I can. Might tear into the 312 tonight and see what I can do about that pump cup... maybe do like I did on the 1400...
Stainless and brass endcaps for my UK muzzlebrake :) Sorry for the lousy phonecam pics..
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Quote from: crossliner on October 23, 2013, 01:45:00 PM
Stainless and brass endcaps for my UK muzzlebrake :) Sorry for the lousy phonecam pics..
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WoW ... looks nice !!! :-*
Gracias Mr. Kev :)
Your pics are quite good actually. No camera likes the "herringbone" background, especially digital cams, they get "confused".
Quote from: BDS on October 23, 2013, 04:00:51 PM
Your pics are quite good actually. No camera likes the "herringbone" background, especially digital cams, they get "confused".
moire confused ??? ;D Nice additions Mr CL :-*
Thank you sirs..Better pics but the brass looks silver like ss..I am going to have the brass version shortened as it's heavy..The ss version is much shorter..Had them made for $4 each labor and mats tip included :-*
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Didn't ''do'' it yet...but I'm ordering parts for the 2200 for a rebuild! :P :P
CW
Just fitted high sports match mounts on my LGV, eye relief and no paralax issues immediately, phew that better :-*
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BAZ: Is that LGV all that it's claimed to be by the Walther folks?
To me it's very accurate (more than my TX200), is smooth and quite (more than my TX200) the barrel lock is rock solid, a real clunk as it shuts.
Stock is nice but not as nice as TX which was lovely grain. Bluing is good (TX200 was wonderful, deep, dark and shiney).
It's still early days as only half a tin through it, but I am hoping it can only get better as it's run in.
There are lots knocking it on some forums, but not sure how many have actually shot or owned. All I can say is my expiriance so far is very positive. :-*
Right then... have noticed the "knocks" type reviews, can't quite understand them given the quality and price and internal design efforts by Walther.
Give us a range report soon? and... how quiet is it compared to a doofer on a co2 gun?
Finished up some lathe work on some long overdue muzzle brakes for quickster and crosshairs. Still need a little mil work done and then I will finally be finished. (Mill was being used)
Then I made a 13xx hammer for the 1701P trigger mod out of stainless.
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Nice Rich. That hammer is almost to pretty to hide inside the tube.
That's a very nice hammer Rich :-*
Yep, the OD will end up scratched anyway, but I figured since I was polishing the angle anyway, why not the rest of it. My feedrate across the OD was nice and slow with a large radius tool, so it looked pretty good to start.
Now the question remains....will it work?? ??? ;)
Well you can send it here and I'll test it out for you. ;D. I'm pretty sure it will work perfectly. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on October 26, 2013, 02:30:06 AM
Well you can send it here and I'll test it out for you. ;D . I'm pretty sure it will work perfectly. :-*
Sorry this was is taken :( but I think it will work :-*
Quote from: arkmaker on October 26, 2013, 03:11:22 AM
Sorry this was is taken :( but I think it will work :-*
Can't blame a guy for trying. :-*
Nice work on the hammer Rich.
Quote from: BDS on October 25, 2013, 09:44:26 PM
Right then... have noticed the "knocks" type reviews, can't quite understand them given the quality and price and internal design efforts by Walther.
Give us a range report soon? and... how quiet is it compared to a doofer on a co2 gun?
Here are some initial thoughts.
This was 1st shot with it, I took out of box aimed with open sites & got this. Yes only 6 yards but untouched, also next 2 were cloverleaf. http://instagram.com/p/bbSY9BkQke/ (http://instagram.com/p/bbSY9BkQke/)
1st shot at HFT a week later was a knockdown, I'm afraid after that I did fall back to old ways and scored I think 29 out of 60. But that was totally me, guessing distances and having previously used 22 I was holding over and under, this hits where you aim. This I found at the sighting range where consistently clover leafing at 30,40 and 45 yards not problem.
I need someone else to shoot it with a doofer as there is some transferred internal noise if firing, having said that I have tried with doofer on just holding pointed at backstop and it seemed a little louder than my 2300 with same doofer. Not sure this would be the same a few years away. Will try to find out.
I've read some pretty positive reviews of the new LGV. I sure would like to give one a run!
I'm guessing your groups will tighten up once you get a feel for it
Anyway, congrats on a nice purchase :-*
Rich
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Thursday night I tore into one of my Crosman 101's that wasn't pumping up and found a cracked pump cup, the above is the repair part I made Friday evening. The stock cup holder threaded on the end of the piston, I don't have a good 5/16"-24 bottoming tap and didn't feel like grinding down one of the normal ones I have so I made a two piece adapter and used sleeve retainer to hold them together. I think I made the groove too tight though as I'm pretty sure there are cuts or gouges in the ring after getting it in, didn't deburr like I should have...
Made some new brass safeties and bolts for my 2400 and 2240. Got plenty of round stock left so I tried a bolt handle. The first two I didn't like so I changed the design a bit. Added a piece of 1/4" round to the handle and a little polishing with emery cloth it was done. Not fancy, but it works great.
Nice work the bolt looks nice.
Mike
Nice creative stuff going on ... :-*
+1 on the bolt handle, looks great :-*
Quote from: KevinP on October 27, 2013, 06:23:51 PM
Nice creative stuff going on ... :-*
Thanks...If I had some real tools I'd be dangerous ;D ;D ;D
looks good chaps most of the stuff i make isn't perfect it works but it often has a slight cosmetic flaw which doesn't effect it working but does niggle me(one of the reason i don't make parts for other people)
ped
Nice job on the bolt. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: rangerfredbob on October 27, 2013, 04:38:18 PM
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Thursday night I tore into one of my Crosman 101's that wasn't pumping up and found a cracked pump cup, the above is the repair part I made Friday evening. The stock cup holder threaded on the end of the piston, I don't have a good 5/16"-24 bottoming tap and didn't feel like grinding down one of the normal ones I have so I made a two piece adapter and used sleeve retainer to hold them together. I think I made the groove too tight though as I'm pretty sure there are cuts or gouges in the ring after getting it in, didn't deburr like I should have...
nice work!
looks good!
Quote from: ped on October 27, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
looks good chaps most of the stuff i make isn't perfect it works but it often has a slight cosmetic flaw which doesn't effect it working but does niggle me(one of the reason i don't make parts for other people)
ped
I feel the same way...Drives me nuts >:( Since I don't plan on mass producing parts or selling the AG's, It will do fine. Made another handle...
Cool bolt 8)
I was busy today finally got to working on my 1322 nothing special,there are no internal mods yet all stock on the inside for now that is.I had a bear of a time with the pumparm one pin went in fine the other one not so much but I got it done.I still have to put on the Tko ldc I have a single point sling for it also.More pics to come. :) :) :)
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Crosman parts:
1399 stock
2289 pumparm
Charlie Mellon parts:
exrended probe bolt with chongman bolt handle
15" 22 barrel
Gmac breech and brass end plug
Utg 3x9x32 BugBuster scope and offset mount
Michael Chavka barrel band
Nice scope there targettgii.
Sweet lookin shooter :-* How does it shoot!!!
Quote from: targettgii on November 06, 2013, 05:40:30 AM
I was busy today finally got to working on my 1322 nothing special,there are no internal mods yet all stock on the inside for now that is.I had a bear of a time with the pumparm one pin went in fine the other one not so much but I got it done.I still have to put on the Tko ldcI have a single point sling for it also.More pics to come. :) :) :)
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Crosman parts:
1399 stock
2289 pumparm
Charlie Mellon parts:
exrended probe bolt with chongman bolt handle
15" 22 barrel
Gmac breech and brass end plug
Utg 3x9x32 BugBuster scope and offset mount
Michael Chavka barrel band
Nice! Love the scope too, those backpacker pump arms are a pain to put on. I think it's the one in the back that sucks to get in. My punch is too short so now I use an old thin phillips screwdriver to push that one in.
looks good mate on the two pumpers i've just built i made delrin pump arms and instead of the std roll pins i used long grub screws and tapped both the pump arm and the holes in the pump linkage
makes removing the pump arm a doddle
ped
I sanded down a spare grip frame ready for another go at painting it. The paint just chipped off my last attempt. Now I've given it a few coats of primer I can see I may have gone a bit too heavy with the Dremel :( The Push inscription has gone above the safety & I can see some icky scratches from sanding ??? Need some finer grit methinks!
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Thanks guys.Mike I haven't shot it yet soon though.I took the original barrel off of this and just put it on my 2240 pics need to taken yet.
I rebuilt the Milbro Scout I just bought from rangerfredbob. I refinished the oak stock with minwax gunstock stain and 6 coats of tru-oil and two coats of hardwood floor wax. The leather cup was shot so I made a new o ring piston for it glued a strong magnet to the breech end of the barrel to hold a bb. It now shoots a blazing 281 fps across my chrony ;D.
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Cool! Nice work to keep an old classic shooting. Those are neat bb rifles :-*
That's amazing. I wish I could do things like that. Nice Build. The wood looks great. :) :)
Cool! it looks good, glad it's up and going again
That came out real nice Bill. :-* :-* :-*
Nice work there, nice rifle too :-*
Nice work Bill, and that will warm the hearts of the UK mates who remember Milbro up in Scotland :-*
Quote from: Paul55 on November 06, 2013, 07:31:22 PM
I sanded down a spare grip frame ready for another go at painting it. The paint just chipped off my last attempt. Now I've given it a few coats of primer I can see I may have gone a bit too heavy with the Dremel :( The Push inscription has gone above the safety & I can see some icky scratches from sanding ??? Need some finer grit methinks!
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Hi Mr. Paul. You should have had them beadblasted..I don't blame you though because where you are from the process might be too expensive. Had mine blasted for around $2.00 for the lot including some flashlights prior to powdercoating. Powdercoating for the lot was very cheap too. The more you have items powdercoated the cheaper it goes. It was done by the biggest biggest powdercoating company in the Philippines btw you can see the quality. Finish is semi gloss. Regards..
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started on my new build today! 2240 with .177 cal. 24" barrel. Pics t follow in new post later ;) lots of stuff to do to it ;) ;) :-X
Quote from: crossliner on November 08, 2013, 01:38:12 AM
Hi Mr. Paul. You should have had them beadblasted..I don't blame you though because where you are from the process might be too expensive. Had mine blasted for around $2.00 for the lot including some flashlights prior to powdercoating. Powdercoating for the lot was very cheap too. The more you have items powdercoated the cheaper it goes. It was done by the biggest biggest powdercoating company in the Philippines btw you can see the quality. Finish is semi gloss. Regards..
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That's a far better finish than mine for sure :) I'm looking for a local powder coating company, I'll let you know the prices when I have them.
Now where's that 1200grit :-*
:D :D Not a thing ;D ;D Benn deer huntin out the back door LOL Have done shot one already out the back door. I just sit there and drink coffee , watch TV and hunt all at the same time LOL ;)
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on November 17, 2013, 02:48:52 AM
:D :D Not a thing ;D ;D Benn deer huntin out the back door LOL Have done shot one already out the back door. I just sit there and drink coffee , watch TV and hunt all at the same time LOL ;)
Now that's my lind of hunting. All you need is someone y o clean and wrap the kill for ya now that would be awesome. :-*
Just finished my 2240... Again ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: BigErn on November 17, 2013, 05:44:22 AM
Just finished my 2240... Again ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ... what did you do to it this time ?
Quote from: KevinP on November 17, 2013, 09:48:46 AM
;D ;D ... what did you do to it this time ?
Lots of work Kevin!
. New 3x9 AO scope
. BKL solid mount
. SS bolts all around
. Custom AIR17 forearm
. Magpul 5" rail
. UTG 1" riser
. UTG bi pod
. Walther flashlight
. 2260 main tube
. Polished TKO brake
. Polished Crosman bolt
. Mellon SS bolt handle
. Bedliner on all plastics
Pics coming soon! I will call this one "The Crow"
Quote from: BigErn on November 17, 2013, 03:23:36 PM
Lots of work Kevin!
Pics coming soon! I will call this one "The Crow"
I guess you did !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-*
That sounds real nice can't wait to see the pic's. :-* :-* :-*
Yeah! That sounds great Big E.
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Finally wrapped up a weekend of dealing with a new dropped ceiling being installed in the shooting range (I mean basement) and was able to install the 5 inch TKO and Mac1 extended bolt handle on my 2400KT. Both made a huge difference :-*
Also trying out the new portable shooting bench from Cabela's for the first time, which was worth every $$ of the minimal investment ($80). Now it is time to see how tight of groups I can get out of the 2400KT.
Did the finishing touches on the 2240, it's ready for testing now :-*
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OMG, that started out a $49 2240? Now look at it!!! :-\ :-\ What a nice build!!!
Quote from: BigErn on November 20, 2013, 03:28:00 AM
Did the finishing touches on the 2240, it's ready for testing now :-*
:o holy crap :o :-\ nice :-*
Now that's the Big E gun we all love. Very nice Ernesto. :-*
Whoooaaaa! Thats a big build, definitely hpa worthy!
Great job as usual Big E wouldn't have expected any less. :-* :-* :-*
That is awesome ... what scope is that ?
nice ern :-* how do you rate the folding stock ?
ped
Very Cool Ern! :-* :-*
Beautiful as usual Ern :-*
Thanks guys!!! @ Kevin it's a Simmons 3X9X32 AO .22 Mag scope, great deal on Amazon. It was like $48 and it's crystal clear even at full magnification :-* @ Ped I like the folding stock but it does have a small amount of play as I suppose all folding stocks do. It was cheap but I like it. I might remove the flashlight, maybe too much :-[ I will take better pics when I go to my parents to test it out.
Fantastic build Mr. BE I like it :-*
Very nice job Big E.
I pulled the M-Rod apart...
Its a used gun and altho I have been able to track down the original owner and the guy he sold it to. Some stories differ... One guy says de-pinger the other says de-bouncer... Well I did not pull the air chamber apart as it has some pressure. I did change the main spring to a 10# spring and it HAS the de-bouncer installed. BUT I did not get the installer OR any tools so after rounding up the appropriate wrenches I made a new screw for the hammer. (I removed the de bouncer) The ''tune'' he had was hammer screwed all the way in and the center pin short as possible.? Strange tune I think... Its also missing the safety set screw for the power adjust...
Good thing I haven't ordered the de-gasser yet. Looks like I need some other parts too!! :P :P :P
I also mounted the scope.. looks like the med rings UTG I ordered from optics planet are delayed. (I REALLY need to order form PA exclusively!!) SO I used a set of HI rings... NOT my favorite. ;) But its mounted!
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CW
Nice CW.......have not even thought about looking inside mine yet (well, I thought about it, but....). As it is set up by Quickster and from shooting last weekend, I am happy with it just as it is....even the trigger, which surprised me because Carl likes the trigger so very light!! ;D
I'm hoping to run it over the chrony this weekend and see how many flat shots I get from a fill of 3K down to 2400.
Will be interested in your numbers if you run them. I'll post mine in the gallery when I can. I'm thinking that curiosity will get the better of me at some point in the near future and I'll just have to experiment with the settings. Also, still debating upon a 22 barrel and bolt for more FPE
Rich
I did a very modest modification to a Mellon Power Adjuster. I like the sleek, uncomplicated design and the lack of an adjusting knob sticking out the back. The one thing that bugs me is the adjusting screw tends to migrate while shooting. Not much, but I like things to stay put. I drilled and tapped for an 8-32 SS set screw to hold my preferred setting. Simple stuff.
Nice job! :-*
I've had to do that to all my PA's too 'Chef, for exactly the same reason >:(
It's not my idea (just copying it :P), but I snip a small piece of weed wacker line and put it in the hole first, then the set screw. This way I don't mash the threads on my PA when I lock 'er down. You can even back off on the set screw just enough that you can still adjust the PA but it won't move on its own ;)
Good ideas :-*
Quote from: HappyHunter on November 22, 2013, 02:19:06 AM
Nice job! :-*
I've had to do that to all my PA's too 'Chef, for exactly the same reason >:(
It's not my idea (just copying it :P), but I snip a small piece of weed wacker line and put it in the hole first, then the set screw. This way I don't mash the threads on my PA when I lock 'er down. You can even back off on the set screw just enough that you can still adjust the PA but it won't move on its own ;)
Good call on the whacker line. I tried that with a tiny piece of an acetal pin, but I could not get an 1/8" set screw to catch the threads so I bagged the idea. I will revisit it though.
You can get polymer tipped set screws from McMaster and other fastener outlets, they are the bees-knees :-*
I had to get a larger pellet box for my 25 caliber pellets... The small Cabelas box was OVER FLOWING!! (I keep one box for each caliber pellets)
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I got one twice its size and I am good again as long as I don't get carried away buying more... :o :o ;D :D :D :-\ :-*
CW
... and I thought I was the only one that keeps the KFC mini sides containers. :-*
Quote from: Davio on November 22, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
... and I thought I was the only one that keeps the KFC mini sides containers. :-*
;D ;D ;D :D
I just finally fixed my Daisy 722. When I received it did not hold air. You say, that's an easy fix, but it was not. I changed the o-rings, messed with the exhaust valve and it still leaked. Called Daisy and got the o-ring set and a new exhaust valve. The new valve has a round end and the old one was kinda cone shaped. Put the new o-rings in and the new valve and it still leaked,but not as bad. Then I got the idea of using lapping compound to lap the seat and the ball on the valve. Took the C clip off the valve, put lapping compound on the seat, put the valve in and took a 2" piece of 1/8" fuel line they use on RC airplanes, stuck it on the shaft of the exhaust valve. Stuck the tubing in my cordless drill and ran it for a little over a minute. Took it back apart, cleaned it up and put the C clip back on. Put the gun back together and it works! :) :) :)
:-*Good deal there Mr Duck! Glad you got it working,and it's a nice lookin gun too!
Nice Duck! I am glad you got it shooting again. If I had kept it, it would never have shot again at the rate I am going these days!!
How's the power?
Well, as you know, these guns are not a high power gun, but it will bury a hobby pellet into my pine door. I'm happy with it now, it works. Now, try to find another one. You want it back? It's going to cost you. ;) ;)
Good job Duck. :-* :-* :-*
Thank you very much. This is the 3rd gun I have fixed this month. Now, If I could just get my Crosman 38t, Daisy 880 ,my Daisy 922, my 2 Crosman 357 I have, I could get back to my mods on my 2240.LOL ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: mudduck48 on November 23, 2013, 03:39:41 AM
Thank you very much. This is the 3rd gun I have fixed this month. Now, If I could just get my Crosman 38t, Daisy 880 ,my Daisy 922, my 2 Crosman 357 I have, I could get back to my mods on my 2240.LOL ;D ;D ;D
You also need to build a pen for all those Rubber Duckies! ;D ;D ;D ;D
I found the thread I needed to be confident being more aggressive in getting the leade right on my 1322. You know that feeling when you send the round down range and its like yep its there, its just right, you have it to the point it is the best it can be. You feel it in your gut, even for a small job like this I love that feeling.
did the leade on 1377 also I pushed a few pellets thru before and after below is a before and shows how the ridge at the beginning of the rifling was peeling back a vane from the skirt. The barrel is extremely tight as you can tell from the banding on the head. fliers are still happening but not as wide (There where bigger vanes but pics where blurry and cam needs batteries)
I measured 10 before and after with my cheap plastic vernier calipers and befores where .178- .180 most .179 a better tool would show for shure but it looks like the barrel is a true .177 cause that is what they measured after being pushed thru.
I cut down a bolt to size for using my new HPASport extended CO2 cap. It is not pretty, but works perfect.
(http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww209/doogie65/ExtendedCO2cap004_zps4467ea35.jpg)
(http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww209/doogie65/ExtendedCO2cap005_zps722d55fc.jpg)
Looks nice on the gun :-*
Quote from: K.O. on November 23, 2013, 05:47:57 AM
I found the thread I needed to be confident being more aggressive in getting the leade right on my 1322.
Link or it does not exist ! ;D ;D
Looks good vertguy. How are you liking that bench?
I have the same one and love it.
Quote from: Tater on November 23, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Looks good vertguy. How are you liking that bench?
I have the same one and love it.
I started another thread in General Airgunning with some feedback. But you can't beat the $80 price as it is nice and sturdy, along with being collapsible for easy storage.
Quote from: Davio on November 23, 2013, 08:06:07 PM
Link or it does not exist ! ;D ;D
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=31208.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=31208.0)
Got my 1377 tore apart again ready for another transformation. ;D. Figured I needed another .20 gun so it hopefully will soon be a 1320. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on November 24, 2013, 12:06:38 AM
Got my 1377 tore apart again ready for another transformation. ;D. Figured I needed another .20 gun so it hopefully will soon be a 1320. :-*
Where do you get the .20 barrels pray reveal!? :-\
Took my 1322 apart to work on trigger a bit more. This time the safety spring was hanging out, foolishly I tried to pop back in with screwdriver :-[ ping! I did find it again and separated grip from tube to put back properly.
I collapsed the sear sping with wife kitchen blow torch, actually did a bit too much and had to stretch out a bit more, but it seems to have lightened it just right. Much smoother so that's pleased me.
Found a lighter today so am taking the seal out to put on top of TP. I wasn't going to mod, but I'm slipping, have a bid in for a steel breech on the bay. If I don't win I'm still going to buy one as I'd like to put my MIM sight on it and also a red dot (with rail I can used opend sights through as well.
Pondering switching to .177, would that lower power? I'd like a longer barrel so can have a doofer but in .22 it's just too close to limit with stock barrel and set up, so wondering if .177 will reduce power so sticking a longer barrel becomes possible again?
Thanks
Quote from: Davio on November 24, 2013, 04:51:13 AM
Where do you get the .20 barrels pray reveal!? :-\
Spent to much and picked it up on the yellow. It's a one off type,supposed to be a lothar. It is quite nice though. Should have it up and shooting after the holiday. :-*
Quote from: Bazmati2020 on November 24, 2013, 12:31:07 PM
Took my 1322 apart to work on trigger a bit more. This time the safety spring was hanging out, foolishly I tried to pop back in with screwdriver :-[ ping! I did find it again and separated grip from tube to put back properly.
I collapsed the sear sping with wife kitchen blow torch, actually did a bit too much and had to stretch out a bit more, but it seems to have lightened it just right. Much smoother so that's pleased me.
Found a lighter today so am taking the seal out to put on top of TP. I wasn't going to mod, but I'm slipping, have a bid in for a steel breech on the bay. If I don't win I'm still going to buy one as I'd like to put my MIM sight on it and also a red dot (with rail I can used opend sights through as well.
Pondering switching to .177, would that lower power? I'd like a longer barrel so can have a doofer but in .22 it's just too close to limit with stock barrel and set up, so wondering if .177 will reduce power so sticking a longer barrel becomes possible again?
Thanks
that might do it but other options with a 14" .22 barrel would be to use a uk spec 2240 tp bush or try a hammer spring from a 2240
ped
Well doing ... cold as crap here with the wind ...
gonna start working on the basement .....
cleaning out and man cave stuff ..... :-*
Anybody in the Albany, NY area that wants computer stuff pm me,
have a lot of parts ....
Got the 1320 shooting. Still needs work but parts are a coming. Started a new thread about it. :-*
reset the power on my bluestreak the blow of valve was a bit vague at how many pumps it opened(later uk spec one)some times 6 and sometimes 8 giving power levels a bit too close to naughty for the uk
biggest culprit was the head space wasn't correct but a spring washer added to the blowoff valve by the previous owner didn't help
also added a doofer and adapter i aquired a bit back now shooting at 10fpe @ 5 pumps which is fine for a bit of plinkin
ped
ped old-boy, how about some photos of that doofer & adaptor?
Not many folks on this side of the pond have seen nor been able to find Benji 39X doofer adaptors ???
Quote from: BDS on November 25, 2013, 10:24:24 PM
ped old-boy, how about some photos of that doofer & adaptor?
Not many folks on this side of the pond have seen nor been able to find Benji 39X doofer adaptors ???
Here's one way;
http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/thread/1270153289/1270170799/Benji+39x+muzzle+break-LDC+adapter+tutorial+%28pics%29 (http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/thread/1270153289/1270170799/Benji+39x+muzzle+break-LDC+adapter+tutorial+%28pics%29)
got tired of the 1377 front sight so cut it 2/3 down drilled it and used a 1/4 screw eye for a front peep...
squeezed it closed an perm marker black fits just inside rear peep...
Nice work K.O. :-* :-* :-*
Thanks :)
I was having to much fun today to go to my workshop and find just the right thickness of wire for crosshairs...
I have always preferred peep sights, just quicker acquisition and more accurate for me
center the target in the circle, and center the circle in the circle very natural...
Davio's 22XX and 13XX Hooded Front Sights are da bomb, just got mine from Hawaii :-* (long story)
Quote from: BDS on November 25, 2013, 10:24:24 PM
ped old-boy, how about some photos of that doofer & adaptor?
Not many folks on this side of the pond have seen nor been able to find Benji 39X doofer adaptors ???
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i'll get some pics up later but its very similar to the first stage in the link basicly a tube with a notch for the end plug tapped 1/2"unf which is the most common size for doofer attachment in the uk and is a very tight press fit(might even add a little choke to the barrel)
it was available in the uk in the 90's but are very rare now but i might have a possible source to someone on a uk forum who made them
if you want brian i'll measure it up and send you the details maybe michael or davio could knock one up for you as they're far better at machining than i am or as i don't use the bluestreak much maybe send you the adapter for you to get it copied then send me it back
ped
Thanks Ped, I know the part you are describing.
is it the type you'd like i'll see if i can sort one for you
ped
Thanks but I'm ok with a few that I made.
Cheers :-*
Quote from: BDS on November 26, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
Davio's 22XX and 13XX Hooded Front Sights are da bomb, just got mine from Hawaii :-* (long story)
link to a pic?
I could make a hood pretty easy and may but,
this is just temp till I get the steel breech early next year.
pics of bluestreak adapter and doofer
ped
Quote from: ped on November 27, 2013, 11:12:02 AM
pics of bluestreak adapter and doofer
ped
Super cute Mr. Ped :-*
cheers senor crossliner she doesn't get shot much more for the collection than for everyday shooting but since i was a kid i've always wanted one
ped
Quote from: ped on November 27, 2013, 11:12:02 AM
pics of bluestreak adapter and doofer
ped
Very nice Ped, and I like that white spacer in the butt cap :-*
How does the adapter attach? Set screw?
Thanks,
Rich
engineering tight fit rich(requires gently tapping on) though i have seen similar ones that have a grub screw which i don't like the idea of as the barrel wall is very thin and could be easily distorted
doesn't seem to be any play with the short doofer fitted but haven't as yet tried it on targets
ped
Man that is sweet ped :-*. She looks great with the dooffer ;D
I would love to get a LDC on my steroid Dan.... Cannot shot it outside here as its too loud.. :( :( :(
CW
Nice streak there ped. :-* Those have to be one of those must have airguns, thankfully my parents gave me one for Christmas when I was 13. As for me I unboxed the 2260 tore it apart cleaned the batrel added a nice aluminum breech chongman handle d.c.probe and Williams peep sight and shot it. :-*
cheers lads i've always liked them
i'll see if i can source one for you cw as i've pm'd a chap on a uk forum about getting a barrel and tube for a 70's rocker safety one and he used to make them
looks like i'm going to have to pull the valve on this one as when you pump it half the air on the pump stroke is venting down the barrel i'm presuming its the later valve with the two orings and the front one is allowing air past
ped
Last night I tore the M4-177 apart, lightened the trigger pull, flat topped the valve, next step is to make a piston, might figure out how to get an O ring breech seal in...
Added the steel breech, LDC and scope to the 2260.
Quote from: ped on November 28, 2013, 05:52:18 PM
cheers lads i've always liked them
i'll see if i can source one for you cw as i've pm'd a chap on a uk forum about getting a barrel and tube for a 70's rocker safety one and he used to make them
looks like i'm going to have to pull the valve on this one as when you pump it half the air on the pump stroke is venting down the barrel i'm presuming its the later valve with the two orings and the front one is allowing air past
ped
I had one that did that.. it was the flapper in the valve. (Technical term ''flapper''. ) ;)
I appreciate the help on the part!!
CW
pulled the valve tonight on my streak and it was green inside plus the front o ring felt hard so 1/2 hour with the valve in some coke and a bit of scrubbing with brasso and it was clean again ,new orings and put it back together and all's well again
got a reply reguarding the adapter and he has one cw but hasn't given me a price once i get one i'll pm you then you can deal direct with him or i can get it then forward it onto you
ped
Quote from: ped on December 01, 2013, 08:41:51 PM
pulled the valve tonight on my streak and it was green inside plus the front o ring felt hard so 1/2 hour with the valve in some coke and a bit of scrubbing with brasso and it was clean again ,new orings and put it back together and all's well again
got a reply reguarding the adapter and he has one cw but hasn't given me a price once i get one i'll pm you then you can deal direct with him or i can get it then forward it onto you
ped
AWESOME NEWS!!
Thank you brother ped!! :) :)
I mounted a Williams peep on my Walther Talon Magnum 25cal... shoots good FEELS a WHOLE lot better too!! Its a BIG gun, removing the scope, made it ALOT easier to handle!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Walther%20Talon%20Magnum/DFEB8A54-4217-480A-BB6C-FD969413B81B_zpsjzkosq1q.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20Rilfes/Walther%20Talon%20Magnum/7FB09BB2-8976-4A0C-9DB7-F3D18DBD3691_zps5hmjehok.jpg)
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CW
CW
I took the utg cantilever base off my 1322 and replaced ti with bkl offset rings no pics yet.
Just started on my 1322 that I was going to keep stock :-[
Steel breech, Benjamin grips & an LPA MIM sight.
Pistol HFT at weekend so I'll give it a run out
http://postimg.org/image/ruo2q5it5/ (http://postimg.org/image/ruo2q5it5/)
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Just started on my 1322 that I was going to keep stock :-[
Steel breech, Benjamin grips & an LPA MIM sight.
Pistol HFT at weekend so I'll give it a run out
http://postimg.org/image/ruo2q5it5/ (http://postimg.org/image/ruo2q5it5/)
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So Nice that he posted it Twice! :D ;D :-*
Increased valve volume of my stock 1377 by about 2 threads, slight easing of corner of air passage, thinned poppet shaft and coned head, matched nose of valve to pump cup, still need to shim cup back out, tops out at 550fps with a seated 7.4 pointed Crosman, a gain of 20-30fps 16 pumps. This is in prep for 1760se barrel ordered last week.
I also increased valve volume of my 1322 by almost 3 threads, a touch of hogging out the thick walls of the front portion, air passage eased 3/4 of way to poppet seat, poppet shaft thinned and coned head, cup/valve already matched but need shimmed much more than the five thicknesses of pop can I used, enlarged transfer and barrel port size to just over .140/ a loose 9/64, tops out at 550 fps @ 17 pumps a gain of 10- 15 fps.
Installed new pump tube (old one had some deep scratches) for the 853..
nice valve work K.O. :-* pretty decent gains....
are you using a lighter valve spring?
Quote from: WyoMan on December 03, 2013, 07:35:29 PM
nice valve work K.O. :-* pretty decent gains....
are you using a lighter valve spring?
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13048.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13048.0.html)
I just finished making a pair of grip panels for my Crosman 1300. WHAT DID YOU DO A DERN FOOL THING LIKE THAT FOR??!!! ??? Why? Because the stock grips are one piece plastic. They would put my trigger finger too far back on the trigger. I was pulling on the side of the trigger instead of the center.
Made them, put them on and they would move when I pumped the gun. I had to do like the Daisy 777 with the wood grips and pin them. Took a 1/8" drill bit and cut it off 3/4" long, beveled the end a touch and drove it through the frame where the sear pin is. Now the grips do not move. Now don't laugh too hard, this my first attempt at making grip panels. ;D ;D
Those look great, now, the big challenge... matching pump arm! :D :-*
Not so bad! :-*
I'm doing the same... think they will be ready in 2015!
nice work duck i like the pin idea using the sear pivot
ped
Those look great duck :-* Simple and clean!
Good work, Duck!
Can you make a set for my 2240? ???
That is amazing work Duck...even more amazing first attempt :-*
I like them Duck. Pretty durn good for a first time. Way better than anything I could make. Looks like oak am I close?
Yep. They are oak. I went to Lowes and found me a 4 ft piece of 1/4" oak and there you have it. :-\
Dang I gots something right. ;D. Heck with your carpenter background I figured you'd have all kinds of scraps around.
Quote from: bgmcgee on December 05, 2013, 03:45:58 AM
Dang I gots something right. ;D. Heck with your carpenter background I figured you'd have all kinds of scraps around.
I do, but I did not want to dig my Dewalt 12 1/2" plainer out. Easier to just buy something already plained downed.
The Crosman 13xx and 24xx grip frame has never been to my personal liking. I am thinking of chopping about an inch from the bottom of the grip frame and build a wrap around grip with a contour similar to that of the Sig P210. I think the European sex appeal will add a different dimension to a 13xx or 24xx. The only trouble is, I have to find the time to do it.
I like the looks of those grips Duck. Really nice work. Reminds me of the Benjamin style. Classic.
With a 4' board you could make a whole lot of grips for all those of us who sign your sign-up-sheet. ;)
Quackerjack job on the grips Duck. ;) :) :) :)
Nice job ... :-*
Quote from: mudduck48 on December 05, 2013, 03:49:33 AM
I do, but I did not want to dig my Dewalt 12 1/2" plainer out. Easier to just buy something already plained downed.
I know that feeling exactly. ;D
Quote from: BillK on December 05, 2013, 05:01:40 AM
I like the looks of those grips Duck. Really nice work. Reminds me of the Benjamin style. Classic.
With a 4' board you could make a whole lot of grips for all those of us who sign your sign-up-sheet. ;)
Where do I sign up? :P
Quote from: targettgii on December 05, 2013, 06:07:41 AM
Quackerjack job on the grips Duck. ;) :) :) :)
X2, Great job!
I cut out two 2240 blanks over a year ago and have never taken them any further than that :-[
Really nice work Duck!
Thank you all very much for the kind words. I'm going to try it again, but I do not have any more spare 1/8" drill bits for the pin. I need to get by the hobby store and see if they have any 1/8" piano wire.
I, too was thinking how Benjamin they look. Nice job, ducky! :-*
Today I did some scope swapping. Took the scope off the 1320 put it on the 2260 then put the new scope on the 1320. Also put a brass trigger in the 2260, much better. Then scored a snap on tool box. :-* :-*
I took the 1750 hpa pistol apart because when I got my pump Tuesday and tried to pump it up air was coming out the barrel.Well I took her apart tonight and didn't see anything wrong and started to put it back together and nicked an o-ring in the process luckily I bought 20 of them.Well I got her back together and was able to pump her up to 2000 psi and now we wait .Oh I also swapped out the hammer spring for a disco spring.
Hope you got that leak fixed Tom. I'll bet it's gonna be a fun shooter. :-*
Thanks Barry I did fix the leak took her out after work and touched it off damn that thing is LOUD and that's just air and no pellet. I'm gonna have to fix that but I really want open sights on her though.:) :) :)
Time to talk to tko. :-* Cool deal though sometimes it's fun to shoot the loud ones and say but it's just a pellet gun. ;D
I don't want to take any chances.
Ahh I see your in just as bad a state for gun control ss I am. :(
Yes
I just f@$"ed up my bulk valve for my 2260 tube project damn it anyhow. Been busy doing repairs ten guns last month.
Quote from: Crosshairs on December 09, 2013, 08:42:48 PM
I just f@$"ed up my bulk valve for my 2260 tube project damn it anyhow. Been busy doing repairs ten guns last month.
Bummer. :(
I feel your pain Mike...can't tell you how many valves and valve parts I have in the bone pile
Quote from: bgmcgee on December 09, 2013, 09:23:01 PM
Bummer. :(
Quote from: WyoMan on December 09, 2013, 09:28:06 PM
I feel your pain Mike...can't tell you how many valves and valve parts I have in the bone pile
It was my fault i should be able to fix it but it's going to be a pain. I just might order another.
Mike
I have gone through the various discussions in this forum and found them to be very informative and innovative as well.
I thought someone was saying that he put a washer between the pump arms at the linkage in a 13xx, but I cannot relocate that thread. Can someone shed the light on this.
Quote from: Ryan on December 11, 2013, 07:41:00 PM
I have gone through the various discussions in this forum and found them to be very informative and innovative as well.
I thought someone was saying that he put a washer between the pump arms at the linkage in a 13xx, but I cannot relocate that thread. Can someone shed the light on this.
That be me. Get a small thin washer and take a small grinding bit in your Dremerl and open up the hole so your pin will fit through it. I used a dial caliper and measured the width of the slot in the front barrel band and the width of the pump arm and sanded the washer down so when installed it would leave about 2 to 3 thous. clearance. Here is a picture. Good luck.
Duck thanks for the response. I guess the shimmer is to prevent the pump arm to have side play after extensive pumping, right?
If you have extra side to side play in your pump arm, this will fix it. I noticed it when I went to a longer barrel on my 1322. I had changed the front barrel band and wound up with play. You will also find it on the 2289G doomsday back packer.
Did some work on the 2260 this morning.
Polished the breech
Added a GMAC brass extended bolt
Swapped out the bolt handle for a Chongman handle (Spheres)
Polished the tube, barrel, and grip frame again
Swapped out the BKL mount for silver B-Square rings
Here she is :)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1253/wmd6.jpg)
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6276/8rmr.jpg)
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Quote from: BigErn on December 12, 2013, 12:26:06 AM
Did some work on the 2260 this morning.
Now that is officially yummy!
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 12, 2013, 12:38:44 AM
Now that is officially yummy!
Damn, that is nice - well done!
Yup Big E it's official. That's one sweet shooter. :-* :-*
That IS sweet. :) And I thank you for an idea it spawned. :-*
That's gotta be the longest polished tube in the neighborhood. Looks great.
Damn that is a sweet looking shooter BigErn. :-* :-* :-*
:o ... NICE !!! :-*
:-* :-*
Quote from: BigErn on December 12, 2013, 12:26:06 AM
Did some work on the 2260 this morning.
Polished the breech
Added a GMAC brass extended bolt
Swapped out the bolt handle for a Chongman handle (Spheres)
Polished the tube, barrel, and grip frame again
Swapped out the BKL mount for silver B-Square rings
Here she is :)
Swwwweeeeeet! great job and excellent work with the different metals...got the same preferences as you Big E :-*
Awesome build Big E. :-*
:D :-\ 8) :-*
1322 Moly paste in main tube for hammer to run on, fitted wider Aluminium trigger. And put some grease on safety ball (as it pops out every time!).
Trigger needs a polish/smooth out but I'm waiting for the sear guide to arrive (wasn't in package).
Feels better than standard, sure It could be improved more with the polish and guide though. There is zero slop now though.
Good work Baz, and that ball and spring are much, MUCH easier to deal with from the top down in the little hole in the frame when you have the receiver off (ball first followed by spring)
Brian
Totally agree mate, the weird thing is that on the 1322 it always has the trigger pin stuck to frame so brings trigger and safety with it (& ball) my 2300 I've taken apart loads of times and apart from once never had an issue I hold the safety in place as I take plate off.
I put it back in from above though :-*
Thanks guys :-* :-* :-* I will never polish another 2260 tube, ever ;D ;D ;D Polishing the breech was not too bad though.
Quote from: BigErn on December 12, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
Thanks guys :-* :-* :-* I will never polish another 2260 tube, ever ;D ;D ;D Polishing the breech was not too bad though.
The word "never" does not apply to us sir ;)
"Never" ... Until the next time :D ;D
Quote from: crossliner on December 13, 2013, 03:09:26 PM
The word "never" does not apply to us sir ;)
Quote from: BDS on December 13, 2013, 04:53:43 PM
"Never" ... Until the next time :D ;D
Now ain't that the truth. ;D ;D
is there a tutorial about polishing a barrel?
searched with no luck! ???
If it's a Crosman barrel it won't be that hard as the blueing is pretty thin. Buffing wheels and compound make it real easy. You canuse a dremel too and a lot of time. I have converted my bench ggrinder to a buffer by getting buffing wheels at the hardware store. I use 2 different compounds . One fairly heavy for the grunt work then a finer for the finishing. It works for me.
Just finished customizing my Crosman skeleton stock and making a matching forearm for my Disco/22xx project (don't mind the clutter on my bench :-[):
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock001_zps07f7d092.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock003_zpscc46458f.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock009_zpse702694c.jpg)
That is some fine custom work, Todd. I would enjoy some details about the stock work.
Looks great Todd, and forearm is very unique. It matches perfectly.
That looks really good. All matches with a "factory/custom" look. How did you do it?
Thanks guys! :-*
It wasn't too hard to do....very time consuming mind you (for me anyways :-[) but not really hard.
Quote from: BillK on December 14, 2013, 07:30:53 PM
How did you do it?
Don't mind showing you how it was done (trust me - it's not very high-tech and I have "less-than-limited" skills/knowledge so don't set your expectations too high! ;D) but I have a lot of pics of the whole process, plus the gun build itself, so instead of cluttering up this thread I will start a new one later tonight in the "Co2/HPA" forum entitled "Custom Disco/22xx Hunter Carbine". It will be an ongoing thread with some dead-time in between though :-[, as it will be well into the new year (Feb ?) before I get some final machining done on some custom parts.
Very nice work Todd. That stock looks darn good. :-* I took the pro-top and disco valve out of the 2300kt and put it in the 2260. Then took the 2260 valve put it in the 2300kt along with the long steel breech and 12" lothar barrel from the 1377. Still a little chillyhere to really get a good reading on the co2 guns but the 22260 feels like it has a little more poop now. We shall see if it gets warmer around here.
Quote from: HappyHunter on December 14, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
Just finished customizing my Crosman skeleton stock and making a matching forearm for my Disco/22xx project (don't mind the clutter on my bench :-[ ):
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock009_zpse702694c.jpg)
That is the nicest custom job I have seen to one of these stocks! Fantastic job, something to hang on to an be proud of :-* :-*
Quote from: HappyHunter on December 14, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
Just finished customizing my Crosman skeleton stock and making a matching forearm for my Disco/22xx project (don't mind the clutter on my bench :-[):
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock001_zps07f7d092.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock003_zpscc46458f.jpg)
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That is just sick!!! Best custom Crosman stock I have ever seen, fantastic build hunter :-\ :-*
That is some excellant work on that stock Todd can't wait to read your other post.
Quote from: HappyHunter on December 14, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
Just finished customizing my Crosman skeleton stock and making a matching forearm for my Disco/22xx project (don't mind the clutter on my bench :-[):
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock001_zps07f7d092.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock003_zpscc46458f.jpg)
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/Disco%20PCP/m_customstock009_zpse702694c.jpg)
There should be a drool, drool, drool, smiley cause I sure would use it now...
Thanks for the kind words everyone...it truly means a lot to me coming from the very people that I look up to for inspiration! :-* :-* :-*
I'm off to start the other thread now so as not to hi-jack this one any more than I already have... :-[
No hijacking you did the work. :-* :-*
Nice work sir :-*
Mounted the Aimpoint on my Crosman 2400KT..I "liked" it..LIKED because just now a friend of mine who is an avid PB guy visited me when he heard I have this optics..To make the story short he bought it for $1,100..Got it for $660 but he still got it cheap because these items are sold here for more than twice its price..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_2039_zps095b0a7f.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_2039_zps095b0a7f.jpg.html)
Easy money lol! Now to look for another optics..... ;)
That's one of the best stock mods I've ever seen Todd :-* thanks for the pics will look for your new post...
nice work todd
ped
Quote from: WyoMan on December 15, 2013, 08:18:29 AM
That's one of the best stock mods I've ever seen Todd :-* thanks for the pics will look for your new post...
+1 :-*
Quote from: crossliner on December 15, 2013, 05:13:43 AM
Nice work sir :-*
Mounted the Aimpoint on my Crosman 2400KT..I "liked" it..LIKED because just now a friend of mine who is an avid PB guy visited me when he heard I have this optics..To make the story short he bought it for $1,100..Got it for $660 but he still got it cheap because these items are sold here for more than twice its price..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_2039_zps095b0a7f.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_2039_zps095b0a7f.jpg.html)
Easy money lol! Now to look for another optics..... ;)
GREAT choice!! these are great scopes!!
I also recently picked one of these up! I also have a COMP-C that I like a lot, but its much larger. AIMPOINT Make THE red dot site!!
CW
It's built like a tank like my Surefire Z2 as if you can use it as a hammer lol! Really the glass of this one is great..
http://www.ballistics101.com/aimpoint_review.php (http://www.ballistics101.com/aimpoint_review.php)
Quote from: bgmcgee on December 13, 2013, 05:30:26 PM
If it's a Crosman barrel it won't be that hard as the blueing is pretty thin. Buffing wheels and compound make it real easy. You canuse a dremel too and a lot of time. I have converted my bench ggrinder to a buffer by getting buffing wheels at the hardware store. I use 2 different compounds . One fairly heavy for the grunt work then a finer for the finishing. It works for me.
thank you!
here i'm ot, so i'll open a new thread about this!
Just fitted a Cothran trigger to my 2300T (thank you very much Jetstream :-* ).
So both 2300 & 1322 have new trigger set ups now.
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Continuing my "brush chrome" look I my 2240, did the grip frame yesterday. Since the paint was chipping off it anyways, it became my next victim :D Used a medium grit sanding sponge after removing the black to give it the look. The black on the front strap is a piece of step/skateboard tape. Gives me a better grip. Looking at the barrel band next for sanding. Not sure yet. I don't want to over do it :-X
Quote from: AS13 on December 16, 2013, 05:16:54 PM
Continuing my "brush chrome" look I my 2240, did the grip frame yesterday. Since the paint was chipping off it anyways, it became my next victim :D Used a medium grit sanding sponge after removing the black to give it the look. The black on the front strap is a piece of step/skateboard tape. Gives me a better grip. Looking at the barrel band next for sanding. Not sure yet. I don't want to over do it :-X
Looks real good. I guess if you don't like the band sanded you could always repaint it.
Great job AS13
Thanks...I was concerned how the brass would look with the brushed finish. It looks OK to me. Staying away from the steel parts (barrel, end caps). The alloy is less likely to rust.
Had some issues with zeroing my scope after my trigger change yesterday, so today I replaced the scope ring from centerpoint to Nikko Sterling and bingo :-*
Only enough room from landing to back of office (about 6 yards) but get it zeroed in ok.
Also my dog "Lola" who has always been rather scared of bangs is quite happy with the LDC I have on it, she was asleep on the bed....I won't tell her off for being on there as I'm not supposed to shoot either, but the wife's out lol :D
[img=http://s9.postimg.org/q62vzomjv/image.jpg]http:// (http://postimg.org/image/q62vzomjv/)
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Looks like it's shooting nice ... :-*
Looks like you have scored a winner. :-*
Carl
Quote from: AS13 on December 16, 2013, 05:16:54 PM
Continuing my "brush chrome" look I my 2240, did the grip frame yesterday. Since the paint was chipping off it anyways, it became my next victim :D Used a medium grit sanding sponge after removing the black to give it the look. The black on the front strap is a piece of step/skateboard tape. Gives me a better grip. Looking at the barrel band next for sanding. Not sure yet. I don't want to over do it :-X
Nice!
Looks like a shooter Baz. :-* :-* :-*
Have to agree Baz looks like it's shooting well. :-* And looking good too.
My quest for a trigger pull I'm happy with continues.
In in 2300T I have the Cothran roller trigger and this morning my new wider sear arrived from Gmac.
Fitted straight away of course. Really different quality compared to OEM, polished in the right places and I have to say the combination means I think I've finally hit that crisp single release point I've been looking for (took long enough lol) :-*
Side by side of OEM and GMac sear
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That should make a big difference. No side play in that sear. :-*
Finally got around to making some changes to my phase2 and phase3 1377's the 3 is now ready and awaiting an
ac piston , the 3 is now back to a stock Powerplant.
Quote from: 1377x on December 24, 2013, 09:22:30 PM
Finally got around to making some changes to my phase2 and phase3 1377's the 3 is now ready and awaiting an
ac piston , the 3 is now back to a stock Powerplant.
Are you getting any shooting time in Ed?
Quote from: BDS on December 24, 2013, 10:13:29 PM
Are you getting any shooting time in Ed?
not yet. As soon as the piston i ordered from ac comes in then I'll get some trigger time in. I'm
going to regulate my stainless 2260, hopefully it goes down to 12ft# from 50ft# so i can finally shoot it too
Workinmanva made a nice rear cocking hammer assembly that has a long range power adjuster on it and the cocking knob can be changed to a lighter one, so i think it will be possibe, it was a good investment
Quote from: 1377x on December 24, 2013, 10:34:47 PM
not yet. As soon as the piston i ordered from ac comes in then I'll get some trigger time in. I'm
going to regulate my stainless 2260, hopefully it goes down to 12ft# from 50ft# so i can finally shoot it too
Workinmanva made a nice rear cocking hammer assembly that has a long range power adjuster on it and the cocking knob can be changed to a lighter one, so i think it will be possibe, it was a good investment
Ed, you've mentioned before about your 50 fpe 2260 and I'm curious. I may have overlooked more about it in previous posts, could you give me more info on it if you wouldn't mind sir? Is it PCP or HPA? You can PM me the general info if you like so it doesn't clutter up the posts. I really like the 2260 tube platform so any info I can gain on it would be helpful for a future build.
Thanks,
Sterling
Quote from: airriflenut on December 25, 2013, 11:08:59 AM
Ed, you've mentioned before about your 50 fpe 2260 and I'm curious. I may have overlooked more about it in previous posts, could you give me more info on it if you wouldn't mind sir? Is it PCP or HPA? You can PM me the general info if you like so it doesn't clutter up the posts. I really like the 2260 tube platform so any info I can gain on it would be helpful for a future build.
Thanks,
Sterling
heres the thread
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9470.msg109046.html#msg109046 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9470.msg109046.html#msg109046)
i just made some major changes to it 2 days ago. dont know what the power rating is now or how accurate it is
the workinmanva valve was swapped out for a daq valve, 14.5" ,22 barrel is now on it so is the hi-rise bluefork breech, a marauder trigger group is now on it the marauder pistol trigger group is now on my phase 3 1377, the 1399 stock was swapped out for a 2260 stock.
can't wait to test it!!!
Hi guys,
How do you remove the blueing in a Crosman steel breech and the grip fame? I am thinking of making a blinky 1377. I saw some very shiny and smooth grip frames in the gallery. They look like they had been nickel plated. Are the pot-metal grip frames capable to be sanded to a real smooth finish?Tia
The "blueing" is more likely black-oxide if it's a Crosman brand steel breech. Here is a good article from a cabinet maker about stripping b-ox from cabinet hardware, it's all bare steel underneath so, the same process applies for your breech. (note, this comment applies to the more current Crosman steel breeches, many vintage Crosman products were actually blued, and Brownells makes products for stripping the blueing)
As for the 22XX and 13XX frames, they are zinc-alloy castings that are painted. Use paint stripper, and NOT any of the HCA products (hydrochloric acids) and follow up with simple green and the wire wheel for any stubborn areas. The zinc-alloy won't ever match the coloration or true blueing of the barrels or steel receivers and doesn't react well with most DIY cold blueing products.
BDS,
Did you overlook to attach the link on the hardware de-blueing?
guess that link didn't take,
try this http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/remove-rust-zinc-and-black-oxide-with-the-works (http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/remove-rust-zinc-and-black-oxide-with-the-works)
Just installed a cheap dot scope on my Vigilante and with my otherwise poor eyesight, it made a huge difference. I managed to go through 3 carts in no time!
New furniture for the Alecto...
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCLeftHand_zps46c8bdd1.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCLeftHand_zps46c8bdd1.jpg.html)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCRightInstalled_zpsb5abc375.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCRightInstalled_zpsb5abc375.jpg.html)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCFrontInstalled_zpscf476809.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCFrontInstalled_zpscf476809.jpg.html)
Now that's a pistol, nice Larry..
Nice grips Larry :-*
Me, I just fitted my P-ROD grip frame using the new style plastic grips for now.
Just waiting for the top end now. (Custom .25 cal)
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 27, 2013, 10:13:34 PM
New furniture for the Alecto...
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCLeftHand_zps46c8bdd1.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCLeftHand_zps46c8bdd1.jpg.html)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCRightInstalled_zpsb5abc375.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCRightInstalled_zpsb5abc375.jpg.html)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCFrontInstalled_zpscf476809.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCFrontInstalled_zpscf476809.jpg.html)
Wow :-\ :-\ :-\ That is a REALLY nice gun Larry :-* I love those Alecto pistols, specially the one with the extended barrel.
Quote from: BigErn on December 28, 2013, 12:57:00 AM
Wow :-\ :-\ :-\ That is a REALLY nice gun Larry :-* I love those Alecto pistols, specially the one with the extended barrel.
Me too..They should make a stock for it like them Crosmans.
Started ''tuning'' the M-rod 25. Last owner was a bit of a butcher... I placed a order with Crosman when I first got the gun. SO GLAD I DID!! Screws boogered and missing parts. All replaced and reset to what I hope to be a good starting point.
It was shooting pretty ''hot''... I only got 8 pellets from 3k to 2k. I know the 25 is not miserly, but if I could get that number to a dozen I would be happy. I'm tuning for power with heavy pellets.
I'm THRILLED with how it shoots 43g Eunjins so far!! 1' off hand at 40 yards and under a 1/2'' at same off a rest.
CW
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 27, 2013, 10:13:34 PM
New furniture for the Alecto...
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCLeftHand_zps46c8bdd1.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCLeftHand_zps46c8bdd1.jpg.html)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCRightInstalled_zpsb5abc375.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCRightInstalled_zpsb5abc375.jpg.html)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/m_EdGrips1911DCFrontInstalled_zpscf476809.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/m_EdGrips1911DCFrontInstalled_zpscf476809.jpg.html)
You're going to make me get one of those Chef....someone talk me down!
Way nice :-* thanks for posting....
Those grips are awesome. :-* :-* :-*
I feel I should recrown my 1377s barrel I did not do a pretty job but it does shoot straight.
My youngest daughter did help me repel a zombie watermelon attack though...
I know, I know, pics or it did not happen.
This was her first time shooting the 1322 and was at 30 yards. She was impressed with what the 14.3g pellet could do and still imbed itself in the pine backer board...
The between the eyebrows was my zombie kill...
Lost my first safety spring ;D
Quote from: WyoMan on December 28, 2013, 04:58:30 AM
You're going to make me get one of those Chef....someone talk me down!
Way nice :-* thanks for posting....
Wrong place for talking down Wyo ;D
Do it, do it, do it :-* You know you want to ;)
Quote from: droid on December 28, 2013, 10:23:27 AM
Wrong place for talking down Wyo ;D
Do it, do it, do it :-* You know you want to ;)
We are like your conscience---the bad side of it lol!
Loving the Alecto grip, I didn't realise it was even possible to fit grips I thought it was all molded.
Quickie Tune:
The Vigilante has the same internals as the 357W6. The only difference is the new barrel shroud. Removed the barrel/shroud and side plate. Removed the trigger bar, trigger and sear. The trigger bar/link is stamped and had the telltale burrs on the side that rides against the hammer. Stoned off the burrs and polished. Stoned and polished the flat and angle at the rear of the trigger. Checked the sear and stoned and polished the ledge that engages the hammer notch. The lube that Crosman applied was dried and hard. Removed old lube and replaced at all engaging surfaces with white Tetra gun grease. Reassembled and had a much smoother double action as well as single action pull.
Quote from: droid on December 28, 2013, 10:23:27 AM
Wrong place for talking down Wyo ;D
Do it, do it, do it :-* You know you want to ;)
Quote from: crossliner on December 28, 2013, 12:06:04 PM
We are like your conscience---the bad side of it lol!
Ok you guys now I'm going to have to do it...typed in Airguns Anonymous and all I got was adds for airguns :D
Sweet grips on your Alecto, Larry! :-\ :-\ :-\
Made up a quick little rust bluing tank from some 2" ABS pipe, 1/4" aluminum rod and some metal pallet straps.
Pretty high-tech, huh? ;D ;D ;D
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/windrifle/rust%20bluing/m_rustbluing007_zpsdbda3720.jpg)
Whatever works !!!!!!!!! :-*
Quote from: HappyHunter on December 29, 2013, 03:17:22 PM
Made up a quick little rust bluing tank from some 2" ABS pipe, 1/4" aluminum rod and some metal pallet straps.
Pretty high-tech, huh? ;D ;D ;D
Absolutely brilliant assemblage, Todd! What are you rust bluing?
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 29, 2013, 03:41:30 PM
What are you rust bluing?
EVERYTHING!!! ;D
Actually, to be honest I've never done rust bluing before but that's about to change this week. After a few conversations I had with Gipetto (he gave me the idea for the ABS pipe) and a fellow on another forum plus the countless hours researching it on the net, I feel confident enough to give it a whirl :-*. Got fed up with cold blue not producing satisfactory results, and everything I've read/seen on rust blue says it easily blows cold blue out of the water (no pun intended!).
Practicing on an old, stock 2240 barrel at the moment 'til I get the process down to a science, but have a whole list of pieces to do:
shortened Disco tube
2260 tube (it's in the tank in pic)
maybe re-do my 2250 tube
2 - 14" Crosman bbl's
1 - 24" Crosman bbl
1 - 24" LW bbl
1 - 20" LW bbl
couple of power adjusters
Once I get some pieces done I will start a new thread in the "Off Topic" section showing my set up, procedure and results. :-*
Tank looks good Todd. :)
Remember that you won't see much (if any) change for the first few cycles. Rewards come with patience....stick with it and have FUN. :-*
Al
Thanks Al...for everything! :-*
Pretty sure I wouldn't even be attempting this if it wasn't for you and Sean (SMP) guiding my way! ;). I'm actually going to Sean's place later on this week or next for some "hands-on" tutoring and also giving Radocy a try.
On a side note - I still haven't forgot about my .25 LW bbl/bolts...will try to get them on their way this week provided you are still interested/have the time? ???
nice set up todd look forward to seeing your results
ped
To Happy Hunter: I am sure you came across robert's post on the Yellow today about rust bluing...http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1388330968/There+is+one+method+that... (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1388330968/There+is+one+method+that...)
On to my latest accessory attachment. This is my last Crosman mod for a while. An M. Chavka wire stock fitted to the 2320KT. The Ultradot was mounted further forward so it would be easier to use with the stock attached. I have the pistol turned up to @7.5 fpe. I have no idea why I need that much thump or why I purchased the wire stock, but it is fun to shoot nonetheless.
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/Crosman2320KTCarbineRBorder_zps2d8c178a.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/Crosman2320KTCarbineRBorder_zps2d8c178a.jpg.html)
That's a sweet looking shooter Larry. :-* :-* :-*
Looking good there Chef. :-*
Oh, I think I know why you have it turned up. Because you can! :D
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 29, 2013, 06:47:17 PM
To Happy Hunter: I am sure you came across robert's post on the Yellow today about rust bluing...http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1388330968/There+is+one+method+that... (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1388330968/There+is+one+method+that...)
On to my latest accessory attachment. This is my last Crosman mod for a while. An M. Chavka wire stock fitted to the 2320KT. The Ultradot was mounted further forward so it would be easier to use with the stock attached. I have the pistol turned up to @7.5 fpe. I have no idea why I need that much thump or why I purchased the wire stock, but it is fun to shoot nonetheless.
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/Crosman2320KTCarbineRBorder_zps2d8c178a.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/Crosman2320KTCarbineRBorder_zps2d8c178a.jpg.html)
That's a beautiful pistol :-\ :-\ :-\
Now THAT is sharp! :-\
As for...
QuoteI have no idea why I need that much thump or why I purchased the wire stock...
C'mon now...do we
really need a valid reason for doing the things we do to our guns? ???
I didn't really do any airgun work so to speak. I did use my old tool box for a dedicated shooter storage device. I got my dad's snap-on box so I put my tools and junk in it and am filling my old box up with airgun paraphernalia. :-*
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Quote from: bgmcgee on December 29, 2013, 09:43:29 PM
I didn't really do any airgun work so to speak. I did use my old tool box for a dedicated shooter storage device. I got my dad's snap-on box so I put my tools and junk in it and am filling my old box up with airgun paraphernalia. :-*
There comes a time when you just need dedicated storage. I made my own storage box just to hold my tools, salves and such.
Might be a fun thread for all of us to show off our tool and pellet organizers.
That might be a good one Larry. Plus it might give some ideas on new ways of storage.
Had a night vision monocular for awhile, picked it up for night hunting. Not the greatest unit but works well on clear, moon lit nights. Wanted some head gear to hold it at eye level and free up hands for shooting. Most units I've come across charge $75 more for the monocular with head gear vs. monocular alone. I decided I could make something myself. Used the head strap from an old welding helmet I had, some aluminum bar stock, and a few strategically placed zip ties led me to a functional set up. Make slots instead of holes for any bolts to allow for adjustments that may be needed if you do the same. Set yourself up in front of a mirror with the head gear on and hold the bar stock as close to mounting locations as possible. Make some decent decisions on where bends need to be made and mark with a sharpie. Made bends simply clamping in vise and some elbow grease.
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Pretty cool :-* Looks like some strategically placed padding might be necessary.
Nice helmet. Seems like zip ties are like duct tape; lots and lots of uses for them.
Having never used night vision gear before, how do you shoot a gun with that contraption over your eyes?
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 29, 2013, 11:31:43 PM
Nice helmet. Seems like zip ties are like duct tape; lots and lots of uses for them.
Having never used night vision gear before, how do you shoot a gun with that contraption over your eyes?
Well sighted in laser. Also nice feature using the welding helmet head strap is the whole mount can be flipped up 90 degrees to move monocular out of way if needed. Padding is there on forehead area and the head band adjusts very nicely from being able to open up a lot to being tightened down very securely. Wear it over a stocking cap or backward baseball style cap to also make more comfortable. The welding helmet strap made for a nice set up.
Very cool set-up Steve. Let us know how it works for hunting.
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 29, 2013, 06:47:17 PM
To Happy Hunter: I am sure you came across robert's post on the Yellow today about rust bluing...http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1388330968/There+is+one+method+that... (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1388330968/There+is+one+method+that...)
On to my latest accessory attachment. This is my last Crosman mod for a while. An M. Chavka wire stock fitted to the 2320KT. The Ultradot was mounted further forward so it would be easier to use with the stock attached. I have the pistol turned up to @7.5 fpe. I have no idea why I need that much thump or why I purchased the wire stock, but it is fun to shoot nonetheless.
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/kiteandcamera/Crosman2320KTCarbineRBorder_zps2d8c178a.jpg) (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/kiteandcamera/media/Crosman2320KTCarbineRBorder_zps2d8c178a.jpg.html)
How do you like that MC wire stock Mr. BFC? Is it really well made up close and is it more ergonomic than the Crosman 1399 stock? Regards.
P.S. PO will be open after New Year.
Quote from: crossliner on December 30, 2013, 12:09:01 PM
How do you like that MC wire stock Mr. BFC? Is it really well made up close and is it more ergonomic than the Crosman 1399 stock? Regards.
Stock is very well made. I may buff it out to match the polished barrel. It has an integrated pressure adjuster, too. As with most wire stocks there is not much of a cheek weld, depending on your choice of optics. That the butt stock is lowered give this stock a huge ergonomic advantage over the 1399 stock. LOP is also much better than the 1399, for me.
looks nice larry my preference is for wire stocks that are angled slightly about the same angle as the as2250xt bottle adapter which i have used in the past
started work on a free standing target block at present i've only made the targets and pivot bar but needs some more braces as when i tried it with my .25 the central bar deflected a fair bit
i'm planning on having them as knockdowns with a pull cord reset as opposed to swingers ,i'm also planning a set of knock down plates for a pistol when i decide which rapid fire pistol i like, a paper target pellet trap and a few swingers
i may even try to make a running boar type target for the top
ped
Very nice start, Ped. Should get many years of use out of that one! :-*
And what is that I see in the background sporting shiny new intake pipes? Single or twin turbos? Must have more info! :-X ;D
Quote from: HappyHunter on December 30, 2013, 10:06:33 PM
Very nice start, Ped. Should get many years of use out of that one! :-*
And what is that I see in the background sporting shiny new intake pipes? Single or twin turbos? Must have more info! :-X ;D
X2!
it's my dads s type tvr well whats left of a tvr its got a lexus v8 and auto box which we've shoe horned in(i had to cut the chassis in half widen it and remake most of it) twin skyliner turbo's which will give about 550hp in a roller skate
most of the body has been modded to a more modern look as has most other parts inc nas car brakes
if i go into work tomorrow i'll take some better pics if people are intrested
ped
Quote from: ped on December 31, 2013, 12:14:00 AM
it's my dads s type tvr well whats left of a tvr its got a lexus v8 and auto box which we've shoe horned in(i had to cut the chassis in half widen it and remake most of it) twin skyliner turbo's which will give about 550hp in a roller skate
most of the body has been modded to a more modern look as has most other parts inc nas car brakes
if i go into work tomorrow i'll take some better pics if people are intrested
ped
I would like to see more :-*
Quote from: HappyHunter on December 29, 2013, 04:20:26 PM
Once I get some pieces done I will start a new thread in the "Off Topic" section showing my set up, procedure and results. :-*
Creative looking setup. Looking forward to your thread.
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 30, 2013, 03:53:02 PM
Stock is very well made. I may buff it out to match the polished barrel. It has an integrated pressure adjuster, too.
As with most wire stocks there is not much of a cheek weld, depending on your choice of optics. That the butt stock is lowered give this stock a huge ergonomic advantage over the 1399 stock. LOP is also much better than the 1399, for me.
Thank you.
Quote from: ped on December 31, 2013, 12:14:00 AM
if i go into work tomorrow i'll take some better pics if people are intrested
ped
Oh, yes please!!! :-\
550 hp you say?...In that?...Fun!!! 8)
Want a co-pilot? :D ;D ;D
i'm not planning on driving it todd bikes were my speed fix now i'm quite happy with my land rovers nice and steady
ped
Quote from: ped on December 30, 2013, 09:37:51 PM
looks nice larry my preference is for wire stocks that are angled slightly about the same angle as the as2250xt bottle adapter which i have used in the past
started work on a free standing target block at present i've only made the targets and pivot bar but needs some more braces as when i tried it with my .25 the central bar deflected a fair bit
i'm planning on having them as knockdowns with a pull cord reset as opposed to swingers ,i'm also planning a set of knock down plates for a pistol when i decide which rapid fire pistol i like, a paper target pellet trap and a few swingers
i may even try to make a running boar type target for the top
ped
That is sick !
Ped you really are a mad scientist in that workshop ;)
Quote from: droid on December 31, 2013, 11:27:49 AM
That is sick !
Ped you really are a mad scientist in that workshop ;)
cheers gary :D
ped
Quote from: ped on December 31, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
i'm not planning on driving it todd bikes were my speed fix now i'm quite happy with my land rovers nice and steady
ped
:D ;D You know you have reached the "golden years" when you choose the Landy over the hot-rod! ;)
Quote from: BDS on January 01, 2014, 12:01:39 AM
:D ;D You know you have reached the "golden years" when you choose the Landy over the hot-rod! ;)
;D ;D
Yeah Ped's an old dude :-*
my other landy has a v8 and auto box and will do 120 (which is fast enough in something with the aerodynamics of a brick designed for off road use)
but gary's right i'm getting old :D
ped
got the accustoms piston and pivot pin installed
this is the first 1377 i have had that needed the pivot hole reamed for the pin
i also got the ss 2260 changed over to the daq valve i think its going to have about the same power as the wmva valve
my hammer is so heavy and the valve spring is so lite i can breathe on it it and it will fire. i put a 2240 hammer spring in it trying to bring down the power but the only thing that worked was the built in power adjuster in the wmva rear cocking hammer assembly. its turned almost all the way out. turned in the gun gets pretty loud
Has anybody ever tried to install a 2240 Crosman steel breech on a 1377? The two tubes have different od. I wonder if a 2240 breech would work.
I think I have. I have fitted a standard Crosman steel breech to my 1322 bought via ebay and posted as for 2240/50 13xx all fitted fine and works a treat.
Please excuse my ignorant assumption, I think the Crosman 2240 and 1377 steel breeches are probably the same breech other than the bolt probe.
I have already piled enough monies onto two 2240s with all the goodies. Now I want a 1377 and a 1322 and am trying to avoid wasting any more monies unnecessarily. I am thinking of discarding one 2240 and have the breech transferred to another 13xx.
the breeches are interchangeable! go ahead and make the changes just use the right bolt for the caliber
Ordered a spare trigger and hammer from Crosman for my Vigilante. I wanted to see if I could remove that crappy parkerizing (or whatever they do to them) and polish them. I figured if it went bad I still had the originals. Finished them this morning and installed. Came out very good (I think).
The trigger turned out great. :-*
Nice cosmetic mod, AS!
Quote from: bgmcgee on January 11, 2014, 09:28:08 PM
The trigger turned out great. :-*
Yes Sir itreally did!! Looks great :-*
That looks very much better. :-*
First mods to a 1322C I got for Christmas (my first air gun): I exchanged the OEM plastic breech and rear sight for a steel breech and LPA MIM rear sight. Then, I honed and polished the trigger and sear mating surfaces. Lastly for today, I compressed the sear spring by 3/16 inch, reducing trigger pull to 2 lbs = 30 ft. distance, benched 10 shot shot group reduced from silver dollar to dime!
BTW: Thanks to this forum I quickly and easily built a silent pellet "trap"
4 sticks x Gardner Bender Duct Compound from Home Depot. $2.48 ea. (located in electrical vs. heating and air).
1"x12"x12" white pine board.
*duct compound easily stuck to wood.
*pushed duct compound sticks into each other to make sure of no gaps.
*used 1-1/2" stick-on bulls eyes.
Good job. Sounds like you are on your way to having alot of fun. :-* :-*
I get so amazed at the stuff that WE come up with on here! We all have to much time on our hands!! I don't think that any of our minds ever shut down and rest! We are always looking for something to make or to do to our Air Guns and share it with all the Bros. on CAPOF!! Great People Here :-* :-*
I need to finished carving a .3 ledge in the bottom of a 2100 valve to see if will fire and not hit the back of the bolt (it willl). I wanted inspiration so I carved a 1377 barrel band to fit the 2100 tube and stuck a drill bit through it just so I could see a near fireable 1377XLT carbine.
Need to make a 130 or so breech shim...
man Waiting on the orders I want my .25 barrel
I know a pic or it did not happen. ;)
Ever wonder what something like the would do with .3 headspace.
I just might find out while waiting for parts...
There's no stopping you now CWOF.
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on January 12, 2014, 05:05:19 AM
I get so amazed at the stuff that WE come up with on here! We all have to much time on our hands!! I don't think that any of our minds ever shut down and rest! We are always looking for something to make or to do to our Air Guns and share it with all the Bros. on CAPOF!! Great People Here :-* :-*
;D Exactly. I've been going back to the guns I have to see what else I can do. There's always something to try :-*
Hi Mudduck,
I believe you have refurbished a couple of 1300s. May I ask what kind of velocity you are getting from your refreshed 1300 and what kind of mod you have done to it?
Yes, I have refurbished two 1300 pistols. But, I have yet to put them over my chrony. The only real mod. that I have done, is put one of Davio's pump arm pins in them.The stock roll pin kept moving to the left, his pin solved the problem. I have also done a trigger job. That's about it. Do you have one that you are going to refurbish? If you are THE FIRST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS, REMOVE THE REAR SIGHT SCREW!!!! If you don't you will break the sight screw off in the lower, rear grip frame screw. I know, because that is what I did. If you have any more questions on how to fix these guns, just PM me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DESIGN-STAINLESS-STEEL-ROLL-PIN-REPLACEMENT-for-Crosman-1322-BackPacker-ETC-/301028540188? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DESIGN-STAINLESS-STEEL-ROLL-PIN-REPLACEMENT-for-Crosman-1322-BackPacker-ETC-/301028540188?)
I am thinking of getting one and wondering if a 1300 would outperform a 1322 with everything being stock in a healthy working condition and with no power mod. The 1300, being a bit shorter and with the old style grip, is more eye appealing to me than the 1322. The fact that the 1300 came with a flat-top, I wonder if it is a more hard hitter than the 1322. I also note that you were looking for 1300s either working or not. That's what prompted my inquiry. Thanks for the heads up on the rear retaining screw though. It's nice to know.
One more question, you mind telling us where did you get the slotted 4-48 ss breech screw?
I bought 100 of them from Industrial Bolt here in Ventura, Ca. You have to measure the diameter of the stock screw then I put the SS screw in my cordless drill and sand off about 20 to 30 thou. to make it fit in the hole where the old screw went. Then I sand off a little off the top to make it flat.
In answer to the other question, the 1322 is harder hitting, stock than the 1300. Different valve and a longer barrel in the 1322. If you want a real fun plinker and a target gun, get a 1300 Medalist II. If you want to kill, get a 1322. IMO.
And the wood grips, I made them.
I have found a hardware store where they have a small container full of 4-40 ss screws that they cannot sell. The owner told me I could pick a few for no charge. The threads seem to work quick nicely when I screw one into the pump tube except that the head is just a tiny bit too large. I will have to grind off a bit from the head to make it sit flat inside the breech.
Got a bench top drill press for Christmas this past year and was itchin' to come up with a project ;). While casually reading thru some posts, saw one that was discussing replacement of the pump arm pivot pin. I recalled seeing someone's post on making them, so it was "game on".
I decided to use brass. So I picked up a 12" piece of 3/16" rod at The Hardware Store (really, that's its name :-*). The post I saw used O-rings that fit into grooves cut near the ends of the pin to prevent excess movement. I'm not sure just how securely the pivot pin needs to beheld to keep it in place but I'm guessing that I won't take much. I know that some folks use E/C clips and others thread the ends of the pin and secure it with nuts. (Maybe on my next one).
Other than the generalized idea, I was kinda making things up as I went along. (I'm sure the machinists out there are cringing) :o. Since I knew the pump tube was ~3/4" and I guessed at having ~3/16" beyond on each side, I cut a 1 & 1/8" piece of the rod to work with.
Using the "poor man's lathe" technique, I trued the cut end of the rod and beveled both ends with a flat file. Then using a round file, I placed a shallow groove ~3/32" in from the end.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5681.jpg) (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/topgas1/media/Air%20Guns/DSCN5681.jpg.html)
The O-rings 1/4" O.D. x 1/8" I.D. (x sect 1/16") fit snuggly and will hopefully do the job.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5682.jpg) (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/topgas1/media/Air%20Guns/DSCN5682.jpg.html)
I don't think that I'll be going into production with these as I'm sure that the bearings on the drill press weren't made to handle the lateral pressure. Might do things a bit differently if I make any more. We'll see. Flex
That is really nice for a first attempt. It looks like it will work real nice. ;)
That looks righteous to me! Good job! :-*
... and thank you for not using acorn nuts! :-X
Quote from: Flex on January 15, 2014, 02:54:41 AM
Got a bench top drill press for Christmas this past year and was itchin' to come up with a project ;).
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5681.jpg) (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/topgas1/media/Air%20Guns/DSCN5681.jpg.html)
The O-rings 1/4" O.D. x 1/8" I.D. (x sect 1/16") fit snuggly and will hopefully do the job.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5682.jpg) (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/topgas1/media/Air%20Guns/DSCN5682.jpg.html)
I don't think that I'll be going into production with these as I'm sure that the bearings on the drill press weren't made to handle the lateral pressure. Might do things a bit differently if I make any more. We'll see. Flex
Darn, and I was gonna mention you could probably sell a few of 'em. ;) Look's nice.
Quote from: K.O. on January 12, 2014, 07:48:57 AM
I need to finished carving a .3 ledge in the bottom of a 2100 valve to see if will fire and not hit the back of the bolt (it willl). I wanted inspiration so I carved a 1377 barrel band to fit the 2100 tube and stuck a drill bit through it just so I could see a near fireable 1377XLT carbine.
Need to make a 130 or so breech shim...
KO,
You mind posting a pic of your modified 2100 valve when it's done? I don't quite get it when you said to notch .3" at the exhaust half of the valve.
Quote from: Ryan on January 15, 2014, 04:37:41 AM
KO,
You mind posting a pic of your modified 2100 valve when it's done? I don't quite get it when you said to notch .3" at the exhaust half of the valve.
hows about I show ya the one that let me think about doing it...
5th pic down his is notched much further than .3
http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/thread/1338520590/HI,+I'm+Interested+in+Your+Pumper+Project (http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/thread/1338520590/HI,+I'm+Interested+in+Your+Pumper+Project)
Very nice pivot pin Flex.
By notch I'm pretty sure he means notching the bottom where it hits the indentation in the tube, pinning it would do similar
Quote from: rangerfredbob on January 15, 2014, 07:00:30 AM
By notch I'm pretty sure he means notching the bottom where it hits the indentation in the tube, pinning it would do similar
It is to allow me to move the valve back in the tube so I can use a .3 longer nose as I am going to .25 I feel it needs the increased volume.
there is a valve stop in the tube that the back of the valve buts up against.
Quote from: Flex on January 15, 2014, 02:54:41 AM
Got a bench top drill press for Christmas this past year and was itchin' to come up with a project ;). While casually reading thru some posts, saw one that was discussing replacement of the pump arm pivot pin. I recalled seeing someone's post on making them, so it was "game on".
I decided to use brass. So I picked up a 12" piece of 3/16" rod at The Hardware Store (really, that's its name :-*). The post I saw used O-rings that fit into grooves cut near the ends of the pin to prevent excess movement. I'm not sure just how securely the pivot pin needs to beheld to keep it in place but I'm guessing that I won't take much. I know that some folks use E/C clips and others thread the ends of the pin and secure it with nuts. (Maybe on my next one).
Other than the generalized idea, I was kinda making things up as I went along. (I'm sure the machinists out there are cringing) :o. Since I knew the pump tube was ~3/4" and I guessed at having ~3/16" beyond on each side, I cut a 1 & 1/8" piece of the rod to work with.
Using the "poor man's lathe" technique, I trued the cut end of the rod and beveled both ends with a flat file. Then using a round file, I placed a shallow groove ~3/32" in from the end.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5681.jpg) (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/topgas1/media/Air%20Guns/DSCN5681.jpg.html)
The O-rings 1/4" O.D. x 1/8" I.D. (x sect 1/16") fit snuggly and will hopefully do the job.
(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g362/topgas1/Air%20Guns/DSCN5682.jpg) (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/topgas1/media/Air%20Guns/DSCN5682.jpg.html)
I don't think that I'll be going into production with these as I'm sure that the bearings on the drill press weren't made to handle the lateral pressure. Might do things a bit differently if I make any more. We'll see. Flex
Those bench top drill presses are great. With a little patience and trial and error you'd be surprised what you can make :-* Made extended flow thru bolts for my 2240 and 2400 and bolt handles.
Quote from: AS13 on January 15, 2014, 02:20:06 PM
Those bench top drill presses are great. With a little patience and trial and error you'd be surprised what you can make :-* Made extended flow thru bolts for my 2240 and 2400 and bolt handles.
Nice work!!! :-* :-*
KO,
Now I see what you meant by the 'notch'. The 2100 valve body seems to have been made of one piece instead of the two halves like the 13xx's. Am I correct? The valve is closed at the rear end with a screwed-in insert that holds the valve stem. How do you remove that insert?
I ordered some Autosol after so many say what a good polish it was.
Used on my Robb trigger (which was a bit rough) worked really well
What was fluke though was after bb and seeping popping out as usual (strange as always happens on 3 screw frame, but 2 screw one no issues). Anyway BB lost! :-[ but Droid to the rescue, he popped some in with some screw he very kindly sent me so back up and running straight away. Gary saved the day mate, thank you very much. :-*
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I use Autosol myself. User here for almost 10 years now. I am surprised as to why they are so expensive in the US..In the Philippines they are around $2.50-$3.00...How much are they in the UK?
It was $5.88 for a 75ml tube, think it'll last quite some time though
Quote from: Ryan on January 15, 2014, 04:15:53 PM
KO,
Now I see what you meant by the 'notch'. The 2100 valve body seems to have been made of one piece instead of the two halves like the 13xx's. Am I correct? The valve is closed at the rear end with a screwed-in insert that holds the valve stem. How do you remove that insert?
Nope
The rear portion is very similar to the 1300 valve and the valve is two pieces, unscrews just behind the very short nose...
been mostly getting my tax return paperwork in order but i did sneek a little time to finish some hammers off
i've lightened a std 2240 one to 50grams which will go in a pistol with a longer barrel, i had to first grind the hardened steel away before i could turn it down the finish isn't great as machining it took the edge of my last tip
i also made two stainless ones for a discovery build which will use the marauder trigger the first one just has a notch to clear the breech screw and weighs in at 62 grams without a guide or 66 grams with a guide
the second one is a light weight one that weighs 44grams or 48 grams with a guide,i'm not sure if i've took too much off the sides of this so may end up redoing it but i'm happy with the weight as 45 grams was my goal
ped
Very cool. Lighter impact so less recoil and lighter trigger (& less power?)
yes baz the 2240 hammer is for a pistol which will have a 10" barrel and as it'll only be used for targets less hammer strike will give lower power hopefull less hammer bounce resulting in more shots
the disco ones is to do the same job but with a 13xx spring and larger than uk spec tp so hopefully i can get as many shots as possible at around 9fpe as again it will only be for paper targets
having the different weight hammers will allow me to try all sorts of combinations to get the best shot count
ped
Quote from: ped on January 20, 2014, 06:09:47 PM
been mostly getting my tax return paperwork in order but i did sneek a little time to finish some hammers off
i've lightened a std 2240 one to 50grams which will go in a pistol with a longer barrel, i had to first grind the hardened steel away before i could turn it down the finish isn't great as machining it took the edge of my last tip
i also made two stainless ones for a discovery build which will use the marauder trigger the first one just has a notch to clear the breech screw and weighs in at 62 grams without a guide or 66 grams with a guide
the second one is a light weight one that weighs 44grams or 48 grams with a guide,i'm not sure if i've took too much off the sides of this so may end up redoing it but i'm happy with the weight as 45 grams was my goal
ped
Excellent work ped wow those are nice!
cheers ern
ped
Nice work on the hammers ped. :-* :-* :-*
Yes Ped is is a clever dude :-*
I'm proud to have one of those hammers in my dream gun.
Quote from: droid on January 21, 2014, 08:20:14 AM
Yes Ped is is a clever dude :-*
I'm proud to have one of those hammers in my dream gun.
tbh gary i'm very happy that you think one of my hammers is good enough to be include on the kiwi gun given the pedigree of the other parts
as you know my oppinions on grants work :-\ :-\ just wish i could get some parts from him especially a breech like yours
ped
Quote from: ped on January 21, 2014, 01:47:50 PM
tbh gary i'm very happy that you think one of my hammers is good enough to be include on the kiwi gun given the pedigree of the other parts
as you know my oppinions on grants work :-\ :-\ just wish i could get some parts from him especially a breech like yours
ped
Well as you know mate I got my breech from the States thanks to ED.
Patience is a virtue (One I haven't got)
me neither gary :D
ped
Poor mans power adjuster...
Drilled and tapped tube cap for a M6X1 screw made up a spring guide and off we go. Simple and inexpensive mod. Now to try it out :D
Quote from: AS13 on January 21, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Poor mans power adjuster...
Drilled and tapped tube cap for a M6X1 screw made up a spring guide and off we go. Simple and inexpensive mod. Now to try it out :D
2 cool, looks good !! :-*
Very nice PA. Should add some FPS. :-*
Nice work on the power adjuster. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: AS13 on January 21, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Poor mans power adjuster...
Drilled and tapped tube cap for a M6X1 screw made up a spring guide and off we go. Simple and inexpensive mod. Now to try it out :D
Sweet! Great job on the adjuster AS13 :-*
The Lothar Walther barrel I bought from Alliance on Saturday arrived today! Super quick and less than half of price in UK.
So I have fitted the Lothar .177 to my 2300T, I then also fitted LPA MIM rear sight and front Brass flip instead of scope.
I then fitted the .177 2300 barrel to my 1322 and also the .177 bolt I had got previously with the steel breech. I've fitted the scope to this one now.
Just need to test them.
One PITA was as I was putting gear away I managed to knock my big tub of pellets over and had a tin off Hobbys, a tin of Superdomes and a tub of BBS all over the floor :-[
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Quote from: Bazmati2020 on January 22, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
The Lothar Walther barrel I bought from Alliance on Saturday arrived today! Super quick and less than half of price in UK.
So I have fitted the Lothar .177 to my 2300T, I then also fitted LPA MIM rear sight and front Brass flip instead of scope.
I then fitted the .177 2300 barrel to my 1322 and also the .177 bolt I had got previously with the steel breech. I've fitted the scope to this one now.
Just need to test them.
One PITA was as I was putting gear away I managed to knock my big tub of pellets over and had a tin off Hobbys, a tin of Superdomes and a tub of BBS all over the floor :-[
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I am also a .177 lover :-* No other caliber in my arsenal. Regards.
Totally agree :-* the 1322 was the last .22 I have, just haven't got on with them to be honest.
Always .177 when I was a youngster, coming back to Airguns after 30 years I was drawn into .22 (2 rifles and a pistol) but as soon as I also got .177 ones I knew it was calibre for me. I can actually hit stuff at different ranges with .177 :D
Converted Mr. Purple from a pistol into a 24" .177 Rifle with Target Sights.
Took the stock 1377 and converted it into a .22 Short Carbine ala 2289 Backpacker/Bug Out without the Quick-Detach feature.
Found that with the Mellon bolts I had, they do go into the barrels a little tough. On the 1377 .22 it does not always cock the hammer unless I apply the safety (I swapped out the factory sear spring for one from ACE). The new black trigger will not accept a trigger shoes I have, so I can't put one on & give it a "name", yet.
Unfortunately, I ran out of adjustment on Mr. Purple, so that means I need a different rear sight to get it sighted in, even for the short 6 yds I was working with. Guess I'll have to look into the Williams FP-AG rear sight.
Quote from: Bazmati2020 on January 22, 2014, 03:44:25 PM
Totally agree :-* the 1322 was the last .22 I have, just haven't got on with them to be honest.
Always .177 when I was a youngster, coming back to Airguns after 30 years I was drawn into .22 (2 rifles and a pistol) but as soon as I also got .177 ones I knew it was calibre for me. I can actually hit stuff at different ranges with .177 :D
looks well baz really like the 2300
not a fan of .177 really much prefer .20 .22 and .25 but i got a .177 walther barrel a few weeks ago at the right price so i'll be fitting it to a pistol shortly and the discovery i'm aquiring parts for at present will be .177 so might change my opinion
how long did it take you to seperate the pellets
ped
I had the same problem on my 1322 when I went to a 14 1/2" barrel. The MIM sight did not have enough adjustment. I went to the Williams WGRS-54 sight and changed out the peep for an open blade.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/121512/williams-wgrs-54-guide-receiver-peep-sight-savage-anschutz-54-141-141m-153-153s-remington-541s-winchester-310-320-9422-most-22-caliber-dovetail-receivers-aluminum-black (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/121512/williams-wgrs-54-guide-receiver-peep-sight-savage-anschutz-54-141-141m-153-153s-remington-541s-winchester-310-320-9422-most-22-caliber-dovetail-receivers-aluminum-black)
I bought mine from Brownels, just showing Midway because of the picture.
Quote from: ped on January 22, 2014, 05:16:57 PM
looks well baz really like the 2300
not a fan of .177 really much prefer .20 .22 and .25 but i got a .177 walther barrel a few weeks ago at the right price so i'll be fitting it to a pistol shortly and the discovery i'm aquiring parts for at present will be .177 so might change my opinion
how long did it take you to seperate the pellets
ped
Ped I saw you got one, I was gutted I missed it, you had already got before I saw it :) then like busses another came along also at great price.
I find .177 far more forgiving, it may just be old habits though.
Pellets about 10 minutes, picking up by hand and having to blow fluff and hairs etc away >:( but luckily it was in quite reasonable piles by type.
Wife came home and shouted where are you, discovered me in the act! Laying on floor picking up pellets and BB's lol, makes a change from catching me shooting :-\
Baz old-boy, no shooting at "Chez-Baz" when mum is at home?
Say it ain't so :D :-X
Afraid so. I have to say I did fire off about 5 shots checking the power on crono after calibre switch and was expecting a telling off :-[ but didn't!
Did have to wait until she took the dog out to try zeroing a bit though lol :D
Received my .25 barrel yesterday there was no leade cut so last night I made a poor boys leade cutting tool.
I have a collection of yard/estate sale drill bits and among them I had an F bit.
I chucked it up and carefully hit it with the side of a cutting disk in my die grinder.
I marked it about 1/4 inch past the port and tapered it from .248 to .252 over that distance.
This morning I opened the .150 port to .170.
I used a 1/4 drill bit first just to the depth of the port this took it down to very close to the depth of the grooves but they still showed,
I then hit it with my makeshift leade tool and lands begin to show right about the port.
I then polished with wet dry and a dowel.
I used a cone shaped grinding bit in a dremel to chamfer slightly.
I think it accually did the job very well but am still some parts away from knowing from testing, I think my pellets will be here today so will at least
be able to check the fit.
I feel pretty confident about it though...
I need to mill the flat for the transfer port but have time still as the valve parts are not here yet, and once they get here they have to go to Ca. and
then back.
My crossed fingers are cramping :-[
Made a new probe with a file and my drill clamped in a vise. It has an extended tip which I put a drop of solder on. This helps position the pellet more squarely into the rifling better than just the small diameter tip did but still is small enough for improved air flow.
Nice!
New oak (not sure... the Italian is 'rovere') grips ready to be 'anatomically' worked.
Suggestions on "how to" welcomed: I'm scared about loosing the work I've done 'til now
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Quote from: ettolo on January 22, 2014, 10:16:16 PM
New oak (not sure... the Italian is 'rovere') grips ready to be 'anatomically' worked.
Suggestions on "how to" welcomed: I'm scared about loosing the work I've done 'til now
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Put a 1/2" layer of modeling clay on them then squeeze a preferred grip into them. Once satisfied, remove the clay from the areas that are in the most need of wood removal and shade the area on the wood with a pencil, darker shading = greater depth. After all areas are marked in this manner, remove all clay and start removing wood with a sanding drum on a rotary tool checking regularly. Repeat...
Quote from: pump-n-dump on January 22, 2014, 09:31:35 PM
Made a new probe with a file and my drill clamped in a vise. It has an extended tip which I put a drop of solder on. This helps position the pellet more squarely into the rifling better than just the small diameter tip did but still is small enough for improved air flow.
Nice work on that probe, let's see how long your solder holds up? It should be slightly harder than most pellet alloys that it's pushing (more tin and antimony).
Quote from: BDS on January 22, 2014, 10:46:49 PM
Nice work on that probe, let's see how long your solder holds up? It should be slightly harder than most pellet alloys that it's pushing (more tin and antimony).
Brian, that's my hope. That and there isn't much resistance to cause wear. I'll post an update after it has some miles on it.
Quote from: droid on January 21, 2014, 02:40:42 PM
Well as you know mate I got my breech from the States thanks to ED.
Patience is a virtue (One I haven't got)
they do come up from time to time and at a premium. The breech droid got was listed just a few minutes when stumbled across it. Almost got it for myself but figured droid would get more out of it than i would
Glad it got you where you wanted go droid
in a attempt to smooth the cocking action and quiet the hammer/hammer spring noise when dry firing i polished the hammer and used vaseline to lube them . it was a little bit smoother , MUCH quieter when dry firing .... but held air at 9 or more pumps :( . disassembled it , cleaned off the vaseline , reassembled using secret sauce and it's back to normal :-* . i think a lube thicker than oil but much thinner than vaseline might do what i want ..... any suggestions ?
moly paste is good or i've been using some lubriplate thats i get off my dad who fits dental chairs(the chairs it comes with is made in the us and comes with good quality imperial allen keys :-*)
i think the lubriplate is used for engine assembly like moly paste is but i only use a little and polish it in
ped
Quote from: DBOdude on January 23, 2014, 05:09:53 PM..... any suggestions ?
Given the variety of temperatures I encounter when shooting...+34C to ~-15C, I gave up on oils and greases...even synthetics change viscosity too much. Switched to this....works great as far as I'm concerned. :)
http://www.jigaloo.com/us/e_products_graphite-extreme.php (http://www.jigaloo.com/us/e_products_graphite-extreme.php)
Al
I got my 38T working. Bored this after noon, wanted something to work on. Put my new rear sight on and my new grip panels on. Stuffed a cart in and pissssss, it leaked a little. So, I decided just to shoot it. After about 12 shots, it quit leaking. O-BOY. I shot out the cart and put in another one, no leaks. More O-BOY! Shot 50 shots out of cart number 2. It WORKS! O-BOY!!! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-* :-* That is 5 shots, 5m one hand.
Nice looking 38. Real nice looking target. That's some fine shooting. :-*
Nice work Ducky some nice shooting too. :-* :-* :-*
Quack quack Ducky old boy :-*
There's a lot of 38 Ts and Cs for sale lately, they are great guns ;)
I have only shoot this with 2 carts so far and I'm really impressed. The first cart hissed and pissed and I decided to shoot. After 12 shots it quit hissing. Cart #2, I got 50 shots out of, I think it is working now. :-\ :-\ :-* :-*
I rebuilt my black handled 130. It works! :-\ :-* This is my first attempt at shooting it. And that is Davio's roll pin replacement. ;)
Quote from: mudduck48 on January 28, 2014, 12:05:25 AM
I rebuilt my black handled 130. It works! :-\ :-* This is my first attempt at shooting it. And that is Davio's roll pin replacement. ;)
Very cool mudd, love those 150 frames.
Nice shooting & a very nice looking 130. :-*
How do those compare with the 13xx series? Pump effort, power etc.
Good work Duck. :-* :-* :-*
This defiantly has been a learning experience. Now, I have to figure out how to take the phaze 1 apart and fix it. I'm real good on the 1300 guns, but I'm learning on the older ones. :P :P
It's the one with the wood grips that is next.
One step closer to adding the 1701P trigger frame to my 2400KT as I modified the new hammer to work with the rear breech screw. I was planning on just using the striker that I ordered, but think I will try the 1/4-28 grub screw approach so the stroke will start out the same as the stock hammer.
Before
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After... not pretty, but it should work just fine.
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Quote from: vertguy on January 28, 2014, 04:01:15 AM
I was planning on just using the striker that I ordered, but think I will try the 1/4-28 grub screw approach so the stroke will start out the same as the stock hammer.
If you use the grub screw, set it up so you can remove it at a later time. I found the striker to come in handy on a build I made last year that was not running very efficiently. Having the adjustable striker helped control the flatulent condition.
Quote from: breakfastchef on January 28, 2014, 04:18:45 AM
If you use the grub screw, set it up so you can remove it at a later time. I found the striker to come in handy on a build I made last year that was not running very efficiently. Having the adjustable striker helped control the flatulent condition.
That was the plan as I will simply flatten the exposed end and thread it into the hammer just like the striker.
Worked on the valve for my 130 with the wood grips. I found on "another air gun blog" how to work on this thing, but this valve is different. It is more like the black handled 130 or my 1300 valve. It must be a transition between the Phaze 1 and the Phaze 11. So I'm going to call it Phaze 1 1/2. Got the valve rebuilt and installed in the tube. More to come. :-*
Started cleaning more parts and ran into another problem. The cocking knob/screw is bent right at the last 2 threads. I was lucky to get it out with out breaking it off in the hammer. I told you this was going to be an interesting build. ;D ;D
Quote from: mudduck48 on January 30, 2014, 10:22:40 PM
Worked on the valve for my 130 with the wood grips. I found on "another air gun blog" how to work on this thing, but this valve is different. It is more like the black handled 130 or my 1300 valve. It must be a transition between the Phaze 1 and the Phaze 11. So I'm going to call it Phaze 1 1/2. Got the valve rebuilt and installed in the tube. More to come. :-*
It's a self cocker, right Duck?
Quote from: breakfastchef on January 31, 2014, 12:09:08 AM
It's a self cocker, right Duck?
It's between the self cocker and the you have to recock it. This valve looks like "their" first attempt at a self cocker. The other 130 I rebuilt had the self cocker valve in it like the 1300. So, I'm going to put a spring on the shaft that goes into the hammer, like the self cocker. This is getting really interesting. :P
Finished the shaping of my 'match' 1377 grips
Those are going to be some nice grips when you're done. :-*
Well done on those grips :-*
GRIPS are looking good ... :-*
nice work
ped
Quote from: mudduck48 on January 30, 2014, 10:22:40 PM
Worked on the valve for my 130 with the wood grips. I found on "another air gun blog" how to work on this thing, but this valve is different. It is more like the black handled 130 or my 1300 valve. It must be a transition between the Phaze 1 and the Phaze 11. So I'm going to call it Phaze 1 1/2. Got the valve rebuilt and installed in the tube. More to come. :-*
Hi MuddyD
I know you are very fond of the 130s and 1300s. Am I missing something for not having one of those? If yes, I will be on the lookout for one in gun shows. I was at a gun show last weekend and there was a 1300. The guy was asking $60. I passed it because it wasn't holding air.
Are the internals for the 130 and the 1300 the same?
Wasn't holding air? Darn, that is what I'm looking for. I'm getting fairly good at making these old guns work. Darn, $60. Was it in good shape or all rusty? Not holding air is probably the quad ring in the exhaust part of the valve. It takes a 008 o-ring to fix it and paychents to try to remove the old hard quad ring. See this? That is it. But what you don't see is that black ring is not the quad ring. That is a piece of steel, the ring is under that. I learned the hard way about that.
Now is the 130 and the 1300 the same? NO! the 130 has 2 variations. One with wood grips and one with black plastic grips and a metal pump handle. The one with the wood grips has 2 different aluminum valves in it. The black one has a brass valve like the 1300. If you do buy one of these guns remember, REMOVE THE REAR SIGHT BEFORE YOU DO ANY DISASSEMBLY ON THE GUN!!!!! Why? because the rear sight screw goes INSIDE the rear grip frame screw. Does this on both 130 and the 1300 guns.
That $60 1300 was in pretty worn and extensively handled situation. Most of the blueing is gone. There was no pressure at all when I closed the pump arm. I figured it would take too much to rebuild it.
I have a couple of 1377s, 1322, 2100 and 2200. Am I missing something for not having a 1300 or 130?
IMO, the only thing you are missing is, another gun in your collection. You can't really do mods on the 130 or 1300 guns except a trigger job. It's like the phaze I and phaze II 1322 and 1377. You can mod them, but it will coast more to get to where you can mod. And then you still have a rear cocker. If you want them for your collection, get them. If you want to mod, then get the new ones with the cocking bolt. Now I'm looking for a 106 for the collection. It never ends. ;) ;) :) :)
Got ya. I hate this "must have" impulse. It's like an addiction that I have been wanting to shake loose.
Duck... like this Mint :-\ model 106 that's not for sale :D ??? ;D
Quote from: Ryan on January 31, 2014, 05:40:46 PM
Got ya. I hate this "must have" impulse. It's like an addiction that I have been wanting to shake loose.
I just wanted something different to work on. Found one of the 1300 guns on ebay and the other on a gun auction sight. The 130 guns I found on Gunbroker. The same seller had both of them at a good price.
Quote from: BDS on January 31, 2014, 05:42:57 PM
Duck... like this Mint :-\ model 106 that's not for sale :D ??? ;D
Brian you have to pm this to Davio maybe he can do some solid grips like this.I tried to add the pic to this but screwed up. ???
Quote from: targettgii on February 01, 2014, 02:59:02 AM
Brian you have to pm this to Davio maybe he can do some solid grips like this.
O-yea? Everything has a price. I'm in no hurry. When you get the itch for another gun, ------ ??? ???
Quote from: HappyHunter on December 14, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
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Wow, what's the short answer on how you made it? Plastic? Completely original, or modded?
Installed a fatty 2260? probe on the 1322. Also cleaned the barrel and put a bit of plumbers tape around the transfer port. It wasn't leaking before, and I really doubt any gas is escaping there now.
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By far my most appreciated airgun.
Quote from: mudduck48 on January 31, 2014, 05:34:52 PM
IMO, the only thing you are missing is, another gun in your collection. You can't really do mods on the 130 or 1300 guns except a trigger job. It's like the phaze I and phaze II 1322 and 1377. You can mod them, but it will coast more to get to where you can mod. And then you still have a rear cocker. If you want them for your collection, get them. If you want to mod, then get the new ones with the cocking bolt. Now I'm looking for a 106 for the collection. It never ends. ;) ;) :) :)
Muddy,
There is no rear-knob in the 130 and 1300 like the phase I 1322. How are they cocked? Do you pull the loading gate backward to cock it?
It's what they call "self cocking". Here is the valve out of my 130 with the wood grips. See the round brass piece? That is the exhaust part of the valve. When you pump the air pushes that part against the hammer and the hammer pushes against the sear. Pull the trigger, the sear moves out of the way of the hammer and lets the exhaust valve open letting the compressed air out. Simple, but the more pumps, the heaver the trigger pull is.
Thanks. Now I see why Crosman changed from the self-cocking>rear knob>bolt cocking. It's all about simplicity and cost of manufacture.
After putting the pro-top and disco valve in the 2600 the stock cap just wasn't working out so well. I could pierce the cart but it was heck getting it off. So I got one of HPA sports extended caps and made me a new piercing rod. I got to thinking about what to use for the spacer that keeps the rod centered in the tube then it hit me why not ise an old cart . Well it works :-*
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That's great! Another use for used carts. :-*
Quote from: mudduck48 on February 01, 2014, 09:55:24 PM
That's great! Another use for used carts. :-*
X2! Great fix :-*
Well I have the 1325 up to a very leaky 576 fps at 25 pumps and about 500 at 10 pumps.
Fps should go up by a good bit once I fix the leaking bolt getting a pretty strong blast but at least I found out I will dump 25 pumps...
Quote from: BerkshireHunter on February 01, 2014, 06:00:19 AM
Wow, what's the short answer on how you made it? Plastic? Completely original, or modded?
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13107.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13107.0.html)
Replaced all the cracked barrel supports on my M4-177. Word on the street is that they adjusted their plastic to avoid brittleness here, but I have my doubts. The type of plastic on 760 and backpacker barrel bands seems much more flexible.
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where the main screw tightens the barrel band is the worst engineered and weakest point probably. It's hard plastic that shouldn't be tightened.
Well its a PB stock not a AG... but it could be. ;)
Started like this..
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Its stripped and going thru the sanding process. 80, 100, 150, 220, 320, 400, 600. Then water and steel wool... I am into the steel wool now.
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Once its all sanded I will re cut the checkering and then refinish. I think with just Tung oil. I like the light color, nice tiger/fiddle back figure.
CW
:-* nice stock and beautiful work. i also vote for light finish
That is some good looking wood. :-*
Just :-*
Thanks guys! Its all sanded and now stained.
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Now for ten + coats of tung oil...
CW
That looks real nice CW.
PURE SWEETNESS! I like that A LOT! :-*
Nice!!
Do you sell your services? I have several stocks I need seen to in a checkered kind of way.
It was a good concept "self cocking" but, as Duck said, that type of valve causes the trigger/sear weight to increase as the pressure increases. The old Sharp Innova and Puma pumpers were like that, so are the newer Webley Rebel rifles. "Knock-open" valves I think they are called. like propping a window open (up) with a wooden ruler, easy to kock out the ruler and let the window shut under it's own weight, hard to do if I'm pulling down on that window with my 200 lbs.
Quote from: Cwlongshot on February 03, 2014, 02:33:36 AM
Thanks guys! Its all sanded and now stained.
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Well done CW :-*
Here is 5 coats...
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I'm thinking maybe one more...
CW
Love how it pulls out that rippled grain.
real nice work cw
ped
Stock looks very nice, CW. How are you preventing the finish from filling in the grooves of the checkered panels?
That is a thing of beauty Cw real nice work. :-* :-* :-*
SWEET
Quote from: breakfastchef on February 05, 2014, 01:14:02 AM
Stock looks very nice, CW. How are you preventing the finish from filling in the grooves of the checkered panels?
I only allowed a couple coats I to the checkering to seal it.
I apply finish with my fingers. So I have more control.
CW
I just got my grips from Davio and put them on my 1750.I had to shoot it a couple times too sorry I did that damn is that thing loud. :-[
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Quote from: targettgii on February 06, 2014, 12:38:19 AM
I just got my grips from Davio and put them on my 1750.I had to shot it a couple times too sorry I did that damn is that thing loud. :-[
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That's a very clean look. I like it.
Thanks Roger.
That is a really nice build. WOW!! :-* :-*
Thanks Duck.
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Now those are sweet! Are these Davio's new solid grips?
Yes they are.
They look look edible like white choco :-*
Me Like... :-*
I finally finished putting my Crosman 130 Phaze 1 back together. And WOW! does it shoot! I had to put the Timmy Mac replacement pump end on this to get it to work. Pumps a little hard, but I think it will seat in.
Just about to put a used 25$ PC77 together as a 19" barreled PC22 carbine. ported to .160 though out.
Mounted my DIY oak grips:
Quote from: ettolo on February 14, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Mounted my DIY oak grips:
Very nice! :-*
I like the polished trigger frame too!
nice work
ped
Quite nice on the grips. :-*
Excellent looking grips. :-*
Still waiting for UPS and my steel breech. In the meantime I modded my hammer for the new breech (rear breech screw). I was concerned about cutting through the case hardening on the hammer, but my Dremel tool and grinding sleeve made quick work of that. Normally they only case harden between .003 - .005 thousands on these type parts anyways. After I got the depth I wanted, I polished up the groove. Now all I need is the breech :-*
Those are some top notch grips. :-* :-* :-*
Thanks everybody for your kind comments on my grips!
Going to do the pump arm now!
OK, shucks! ;) How much? I want a set of those ettolo DIY grips. :-*
The curves and square edges remind me of the IZH somehow... like you morphed the standard fare with them. VERY NICE design and execution, ettolo. :-\
Quote from: ettolo on February 14, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Mounted my DIY oak grips:
Top class work there :-*
The colour scheme looks like my 1377, I painted the pump arm matt black so it tones in more. It seems to be more grippy too.
Quote from: Davio on February 15, 2014, 08:37:26 PM
OK, shucks! ;) How much? I want a set of those ettolo DIY grips. :-*
Sorry, we don't sell to oversea! ;D ;D what a sweet revenge! :D :D :D
Of course just joking, if i could make another pair, you will be the first!
Quote from: Davio on May 31, 1974, 05:21:44 PM
The curves and square edges remind me of the IZH somehow... like you morphed the standard fare with them. VERY NICE design and execution, ettolo. :-\
I like the pump lever of the IZH46, and i saw a 1377 with a similar leverage. I wish I could do a thing like that... or maybe some Alchemist could! (and this is the second idea i give you! :D)
Quote from: Paul55 on February 15, 2014, 08:54:09 PM
Top class work there :-*
The colour scheme looks like my 1377, I painted the pump arm matt black so it tones in more. It seems to be more grippy too.
Thanks Paul!
I think i'm gonna polish my barrel and surely i'll add a steel breech, think it would be black
Quote from: ettolo on February 14, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Mounted my DIY oak grips:
:D :-Excellent work :-* The lines and finish are perfect :-*
put a new custom hammer in my 1377 smooth as butter
THANKS Arkmaker
A special request from a friend made me do it.
Wow that is real nice David what is it made of aluminum?Should be a popular listing on your site.
Quote from: targettgii on February 18, 2014, 11:38:23 PM
Wow that is real nice David what is it made of aluminum?Should be a popular listing on your site.
Pretty cool, looks like the stock sight was cut and drilled and a fiber optic rod was pushed through ???
Nice, Davio!
Quote from: BigErn on February 18, 2014, 11:43:26 PM
Pretty cool, looks like the stock sight was cut and drilled and a fiber optic rod was pushed through ???
Add a drop of super glue and you nailed it. (Aluminum? Not quite yet.)
I received one of Davio's rp valves and installed it in the 2260. Then I took the pro-top from the 2260 and put in the 2300kt along with the Anthony R left handed breech I got awhile ago from chongman. I also swapped l.d.c's around and put a crosman steel breech on the 2260. Took off a bluefork breech that was on the 2260. Haven't had a chance to run the 2260 over the chrony but it feels pretty peppy. Getting some much needed rain here today and I just don't feel like sitting in the rain. :P Well here is the results.
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You be busy feller. Your pieces are looking real nice. ;)
Looking good !!! :-*
Thanks . What else ya gonna do on a rainy day. ;D
Tuned a customers 2300KT (trigger tune) and added some farkle parts to it; re-crowned my .22 caliber barrel on my 2300KT last night as well. 0 degree facing then a 11 degree target crown for protection then a outer 45 degree chamfer.
A decent nights work on mine.
Quote from: bgmcgee on February 28, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
I received one of Davio's rp valves and installed it in the 2260. Then I took the pro-top from the 2260 and put in the 2300kt along with the Anthony R left handed breech I got awhile ago from chongman. I also swapped l.d.c's around and put a crosman steel breech on the 2260. Took off a bluefork breech that was on the 2260. Haven't had a chance to run the 2260 over the chrony but it feels pretty peppy. Getting some much needed rain here today and I just don't feel like sitting in the rain. :P Well here is the results.
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Been busy have ya'!!!!
That post made me dizzy, but, at least, you have a fetching scope condom. Good times with tools.
Quote from: bgmcgee on February 28, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
I received one of Davio's rp valves and installed it in the 2260. Then I took the pro-top from the 2260 and put in the 2300kt along with the Anthony R left handed breech I got awhile ago from chongman. I also swapped l.d.c's around and put a crosman steel breech on the 2260. Took off a bluefork breech that was on the 2260. Haven't had a chance to run the 2260 over the chrony but it feels pretty peppy. Getting some much needed rain here today and I just don't feel like sitting in the rain. :P Well here is the results.
Quote from: bgmcgee on February 28, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
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Very nice!
Quote from: bgmcgee on February 28, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
I received one of Davio's rp valves and installed it in the 2260. Then I took the pro-top from the 2260 and put in the 2300kt along with the Anthony R left handed breech I got awhile ago from chongman. I also swapped l.d.c's around and put a crosman steel breech on the 2260. Took off a bluefork breech that was on the 2260. Haven't had a chance to run the 2260 over the chrony but it feels pretty peppy. Getting some much needed rain here today and I just don't feel like sitting in the rain. :P Well here is the results.
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that's some sweet lookin shooters :-* where did you get the LDC on the pistol ?
last night i ground down the front on my DBO's bolt and drilled a hole for a piece of piano wire to make it a extended probe so it wouldn't block the air port in the barrel and push pellets past it and (hopefully) into the rifling . it extends (as best as i can see) exactly 1/4 inch past the front of the groove for the bolts o-ring . pellets are wanting to hang almost every time now when loading ..... what can i do about that ?
i also made some little plastic washers for the sides of the sear . the trigger doesn't feel any better , but it's no worse either . but i'll leave in since the did take the wiggle out of the sear when the pump tube is off the grip ...... aka the warm fuzzy feeling that it looks better .
even though i can't see it when shooting . LOL
Interesting to see two barrel bands. Do you fine it any more accurate than none (or none)? :-*
The ldc on the pistol is a Neil Clague. Very effective but at a price. I just did the double barrel bands for kixks. Had them laying around so I figured I would use them. On the pistol that barrel has a flat spot that one of the bands now covers. On the subject of your pellets hanging up try and polish up the lead of the barrel. Make the transition from the breech to the barrel aa smooth as you can that should help.
Good work bg!
Not physical labor but took two customers orders for full tunes on a Weihrauch HW50S and a Diana Model 34. Going to be busy the next week or so!
Quote from: OrbeaRider70 on March 03, 2014, 01:42:28 AM
Not physical labor but took two customers orders for full tunes on a Weihrauch HW50S and a Diana Model 34. Going to be busy the next week or so!
Good deal! Getting the job is half the job. :)
Touched up a few missing paint marks on the 600 with a permanent marker (thanks for tips guys :-*)
While I had her out I thought I'd have a look at the safety which just laid down in the off position.
Really simple, just took off grips, undid one screw and could see years of use and taken the tension out of the leaf bar (didn't know how else to describe). So I gave it a gentle bend the other way, now very snug and actually clicks off and on.
Last thing was grips, went to screw on and the nut which sits on far side to screw into just kept spinning. Popped it out, looked like May have been on wrong way around (one side has beveled edge), screwed in a few times to check thread and then fitted. Grips nice and tight too.
Loving the 600! :-\
Good work Baz.
My 1322 barrel arrived back today, it has been turned by UK Neil.
After removing barrel screw I tried to pop original out....no joy. I guess 40 years of crud etc.
In the end I tapped barrel in a fraction, then used barrel pull through with too large a cloth to drag it out.
Fitted new barrel and it's a perfect fit
So big thank you to UK Neil.
All that remains is to gas her up and try her out :DD
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Quote from: Bazmati2020 on March 07, 2014, 04:39:29 PM
My 1322 barrel arrived back today, it has been turned by UK Neil.
Really terrific mod. The pickle surely must tame down the report of the 600!
At some time, you should really strip the gun down, clean and reseal so you know everything is tip top.
Cool shooter there Baz. :-*
Nice Baz I like it. :-* :-* :-*
I put another 1300 Medalist II together and got it working. That is #3. I just like working on these things to bring them back to life. :-\
Nice job Duck .... love my 1300 mark II also .... :-*
Nice work Duck. :-* :-* :-*
Nothing to special, but I am very happy with the LDC results....... :)
Finished all the internals on the LDC and tested on my 1740 pistol. Very acceptable!! I just need to turn down the OD to make it pretty and add my signature muzzle nipple to it which I normally only do on air strippers. I also mounted my Beeman 3x9x32 on the Disco. I have a Hawke 4x32AO on its way that may replace it or may find its way to my Marlin 39A?? Not sure yet. The Disco has a 6.5" TKO coming which it needs badly! That puppy is loud.
Rich
Nice work Rich. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: Bazmati2020 on March 07, 2014, 04:39:29 PM
My 1322 barrel arrived back today, it has been turned by UK Neil.
After removing barrel screw I tried to pop original out....no joy. I guess 40 years of crud etc.
In the end I tapped barrel in a fraction, then used barrel pull through with too large a cloth to drag it out.
Fitted new barrel and it's a perfect fit
So big thank you to UK Neil.
All that remains is to gas her up and try her out :DD
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Wow :-\ :-\ :-\
I found that a Crosman rifle rear sight will bolt on to the rear breech screw on a plastic breech. Easy elevation & windage adjustments. I had to raise the front sight by gluing the fiber optic rod from a 760 sight to it to get the sights lined up as the rear sight is a little to high.
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Also found that by dremmeling out the ridges in the plastic breech you can put 2 #4 screws through the breech & still clear the bolt. A Discovery rear sight could then be mounted. Discovery sight has a smaller U sight cut. Better sight.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/100_05241.jpg)
On a plastic breech you would have to use nuts to mount the Discovery sight since it cant be taped as this breech was.
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Few more pics over at GTA .
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=62332.msg607690#new (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=62332.msg607690#new)
:-[:-[Opps...I ment to put this in the What Work Did You Do thread. Can a Mod move this please? ???
that looks a nice job with the disco sight
ped
Well I mounted the 4-16x40 Centerpoint on my new Marauder and tried to bore sight it but the shaft on the lazer wasn't long enough to get into the bore.So either I take the shroud off or do it the old fashioned way.hmmmm
Tiny tweek on my 600.
I had been getting 377fps (@4 FtLbs) after my 10" barrel mod, but reading it seemed quite low.
So I found some threads re barrel breech gap.
I loosened screw and pushed in a little more (but still not protruding). Made a difference as it has now ranged between 399 and 404fps over 6 shots. So up to 4.6 FtLbs :-*
Nice gain for no cost. :-* I haven't done much lately just tore down my bnm2240 and changed hammer and spring. Seems to be a little peppier but haven't shot it over the chrony yet.
i couldnt find a muzzle flip i liked
so i made my own
Quote from: Jauvesst on March 11, 2014, 04:00:33 PM
i couldnt find a muzzle flip i liked
so i made my own
Nice job. Wish I had the ability to do that.
Jauvesst, I am glad to see you are putting your education to such a good use. Look good. :-*
im a bit surprised that i got permission to do that tbh. we got a fairly strict "no guns or gun parts" policy at school
Nice work. :-* :-* :-*
that flip is made by hand on a drillpress and lathe fyi. one of the finnish guys were doing his finals on my cnc machine so i did this to keep myself occupied
i did however get a green light on doing more when im back on the cnc lathe so i might do alot more of them
I got my 2300 custom shop pistol from Crosman today the first improvement I made is to swap out the factory rings for BKL rings for the scope.I was going to use this as a base for a custom build but I think I am going to be buying more parts.
(http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r542/targettgii/IMG_20140326_235326_zpscf3c43ac.jpg) (http://s1171.photobucket.com/user/targettgii/media/IMG_20140326_235326_zpscf3c43ac.jpg.html)
I like the looks !!! :-*
Very nice Tom...
Thanks Guys. :)
That's a great looking shooter Tom.
Thanks Jerry.
:) :) :)
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13807.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13807.0.html)
Been working on the trigger pull of my 2240, 2400 and Vigilante. Unfortunately the only way to judge the results was by feel. After the work they felt lighter but by how much ??? So I picked up a GPS (spring) trigger pull gauge from Amazon. I had no base numbers on the 2240 or 2400, since I had already done the mods prior to getting the gauge. I tested the pull using the gauge and got the following results...On my 2240 it was 2.4 lbs; on the 2400 it was 2.8 lbs; and on the Vigilante it was 6.8 lbs on the double action and 3.4 lbs on the single action. Originally it was 5.0 lbs on the single action before tuning. Reading the customer reviews on the gauge the feedback was very good. A couple of people tested it against a digital scale and found it to be +- 1 oz. compared to the digital scale. That's close enough for me.
http://www.goutdoorsproducts.com/products/firearm-trigger-scale/ (http://www.goutdoorsproducts.com/products/firearm-trigger-scale/)
:-X Started work on my Thtow Down build today! ;)
I put one of my two disassembled Crosman 600's back together today. Got repair parts from JG Airguns and Mac1 Airguns.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman600Disassembled_zps9400d3ae.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman600Disassembled_zps9400d3ae.jpg.html)
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Nice. :-* :-* :-*
Looking good :-* how is it shooting ?
Quote from: rws_53 on April 22, 2014, 07:19:13 AM
I put one of my two disassembled Crosman 600's back together today. Got repair parts from JG Airguns and Mac1 Airguns.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman600Disassembled_zps9400d3ae.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/rws53/media/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman600Disassembled_zps9400d3ae.jpg.html)
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Cool... the 600 is a little daunting the first time you tear it down but, patience, a keen eye and good inventory control of the parts (I use pellet tins labeled with part I.D.) make it methodical after that.
Cleaning and "strategic" lube is a must with these great old guns. And TLC of the entire feed mechanism. :-*
Quote from: BDS on April 22, 2014, 06:08:24 PM
Cool... the 600 is a little daunting the first time you tear it down but, patience, a keen eye and good inventory control of the parts (I use pellet tins labeled with part I.D.) make it methodical after that.
Cleaning and "strategic" lube is a must with these great old guns. And TLC of the entire feed mechanism. :-*
I always say this but I NEED one of these sometime in the near future.
Quote from: BigErn on April 22, 2014, 06:22:22 PM
I always say this but I NEED one of these sometime in the near future.
How "near" in the future, here's a stainless powder coat look for $275 :D http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=79375&adSort=&StartingAd=0&NumberOfPages=7 (http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=79375&adSort=&StartingAd=0&NumberOfPages=7)
Personally, I would re-do it in deep black as it should be :-*
Quote from: BDS on April 22, 2014, 06:44:24 PM
Personally, I would re-do it in deep black as it should be :-*
Agreed. Some things just do not look right in 'white'.
Hoping to recover a 600 lost in a deal gone south a couple years back.
Quote from: BDS on April 22, 2014, 06:44:24 PM
How "near" in the future, here's a stainless powder coat look for $275 :D http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=79375&adSort=&StartingAd=0&NumberOfPages=7 (http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=79375&adSort=&StartingAd=0&NumberOfPages=7)
Personally, I would re-do it in deep black as it should be :-*
Pretty cool if it were an extra one, but agree that it looks better in black if I only had one.
The wonderful Lawrie Amatruda did a service and reseal of my 600 and she is now running better than ever (and no more locking issue either).
I've reinstalled my longer barrel so I can fit my pickle and here she is on video phutt phutt
http://qik.ly/Lkgbk (http://qik.ly/Lkgbk)
Quote from: Bazmati2020 on April 23, 2014, 01:01:23 PM
The wonderful Lawrie Amatruda did a service and reseal of my 600 and she is now running better than ever (and no more locking issue either).
I've reinstalled my longer barrel so I can fit my pickle and here she is on video phutt phutt
http://qik.ly/Lkgbk (http://qik.ly/Lkgbk)
Nice Baz... does the missus know that her sofa is in "harms way" ??? :D ;D
Quote from: BDS on April 23, 2014, 01:45:19 PM
Nice Baz... does the missus know that her sofa is in "harms way" ??? :D ;D
:) :D ;D
Hanha, I'm safe it's my sofa in my little office.
When she's not in the house I can go into the hallway and shoot into it for a bit more distance :-*
Quote from: KevinP on April 22, 2014, 10:14:55 AM
Looking good :-* how is it shooting ?
I'm happy with the gun.
10 shots at 68°F
Crosman Premier Domed 14.3 gr
342 fps average
12 fps extreme spread
4 fps standard deviation
Test firing at 5 meters 2 handed unsupported
http://youtu.be/70tZcDRyFt0 (http://youtu.be/70tZcDRyFt0)
N.I.C.E. :-*
Quote from: AS13 on April 09, 2014, 03:31:09 PMSo I picked up a GPS (spring) trigger pull gauge from Amazon. I had no base numbers on the 2240 or 2400, since I had already done the mods prior to getting the gauge.
http://www.goutdoorsproducts.com/products/firearm-trigger-scale/ (http://www.goutdoorsproducts.com/products/firearm-trigger-scale/)
A shout out to AS 13 for recommending the GPS Outdoors trigger gauge. I received mine this week and tested all my airguns. It came in particularly useful when trimming trigger group springs in the Daisy Avanti 853 on a quest to get it to break at 1.5 lb. I apparently favor light triggers.
made a couple of brass safety's and a new front valve section that seals past the roll stamp and serial no stamp on a 2260,this is so i can hpa it safely
pics later as i'm still pressure testing it at present
ped
Quote from: Bazmati2020 on April 23, 2014, 01:01:23 PM
The wonderful Lawrie Amatruda did a service and reseal of my 600 and she is now running better than ever (and no more locking issue either).
I've reinstalled my longer barrel so I can fit my pickle and here she is on video phutt phutt
http://qik.ly/Lkgbk (http://qik.ly/Lkgbk)
Baz... sorry but, "whats" a "Lawrie Amatruda"???
I would understand Lorrie Intruder :D ;D but Lawrie?
Quote from: BDS on April 29, 2014, 09:22:16 PM
Baz... sorry but, "whats" a "Lawrie Amatruda"???
I would understand Lorrie Intruder :D ;D but Lawrie?
It's a UK thing. Amatruda is known to do very good work on CO2 and SSP guns.
Got my new to me AS2250xt in today wasn`t happy the bolt was stuck wouldn`t move so a teardown was in order found out the last person to work on the gun didn`t know how to instal the breech after tearing it down and putting it back together all is now fine using a 12g to 88g adapter i put a 12g CO2 in the gun and checked for leaks and was lucky no leaks now have to get shooting it pics later when i can get a nice day to take them
Jim
Quote from: breakfastchef on April 29, 2014, 10:35:37 PM
It's a UK thing. Amatruda is known to do very good work on CO2 and SSP guns.
Sorry yes Lawrie knows the 600 inside out and sorted mine which had issues. Also kindly showed me some of his 600, fantastic Nickle version and 2 rifles as well :-* :-\
I had a bright idea and cut 3" off my 2260 barrel. Looks a little better especially with the ldc on the end. Now I need to break out the chrony and see if it did anything to velocity. ???. Seems to shoot as good as before so I guess I did okay on the crown. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on May 04, 2014, 12:00:06 AM
I had a bright idea and cut 3" off my 2260 barrel. Looks a little better especially with the ldc on the end. Now I need to break out the chrony and see if it did anything to velocity. ???. Seems to shoot as good as before so I guess I did okay on the crown. :-*
You shouldn't have lost anymore than 30 fps.
Quote from: bgmcgee on May 04, 2014, 12:00:06 AM
I had a bright idea and cut 3" off my 2260 barrel. Looks a little better especially with the ldc on the end. Now I need to break out the chrony and see if it did anything to velocity. ???. Seems to shoot as good as before so I guess I did okay on the crown. :-*
Glad it still shoots good. Ruining accuracy scares me when thinking about cutting a barrel.
I figured what the heck the barrels are pretty cheap from Crosman. I checked it over the chrony and didn't lose any velocity and all pellets went into the same hole. I'm happy.
I have almost finished modifying an old camera tri-pod for airgun use. Did some testing today and it shows some promise. Folds up, light weight and adjustable.
Guess I didn't screw up the barrel too bad on the 2260 with the cut and crown. 5 shots at 10 yards using the mirror of my pickup for a rest. The one hole off to the right was already there.
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Quote from: bgmcgee on May 07, 2014, 09:40:38 PM
Guess I didn't screw up the barrel too bad on the 2260 with the cut and crown. 5 shots at 10 yards using the mirror of my pickup for a rest. The one hole off to the right was already there.
Open sites?? Not to shabby at all! :-* Any chance of seeing the rifle as it looks now?
I wish I could shoot open sights that well. ;D. I put a picture up in the guns of the day thread.
A while ago I got a shroud from AC. Then I got some aluminum tubing to make a little shroud for the rest of the barrel. Pretty much just cut & slip it on. Not too much work but it looks good, IMHO. Did it on a 2240 also, painted black.
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That's a good idea :-* :-*
Nice Bill. :-* I did that on my 1377 but with a piece of stainless tube I got from work.
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:-* Great lookin shooters :-*
Quote from: BillK on May 09, 2014, 12:19:54 AM
A while ago I got a shroud from AC. Then I got some aluminum tubing to make a little shroud for the rest of the barrel. Pretty much just cut & slip it on. Not too much work but it looks good, IMHO. Did it on a 2240 also, painted black.
Nice clean, simple mod, Bill. How thin was the wall of that tubing? I know there is not much room between the barrel and breech.
That is a great idea with the aluminum or stainless tubing over the barrel. And it does look great!!
Just finished this to day! 2240 , I was digging around in my parts bins and got to finding parts I had pulled off of guns that I had moded and built this out of them. No range report yet! If no rain here in a.m. I will set it up and shoot.
Quote from: BillK on May 09, 2014, 12:19:54 AM
A while ago I got a shroud from AC. Then I got some aluminum tubing to make a little shroud for the rest of the barrel. Pretty much just cut & slip it on. Not too much work but it looks good, IMHO. Did it on a 2240 also, painted black.
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Great minds think alike! :)
We have been doing this with stainless steel, Delrin, aluminum (for powder coating), and polished brass on custom builds. The latest is the "Godspeed" gun being donated for a new raffle. It has two stainless sections. We call them faux shrouds.
^^^^^ :-* Actually Bill's looks way better than mine. Guess that's why my gun is no more. :P
Today my 2300kt is officially a pile of parts. Had a few problems so it's in total rebuild status. I did get some tung oil ob the grips but that's about it. Hoping it will be C.A.P.O.F. worthy when all is said and done. :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on May 09, 2014, 03:28:44 AM
Nice clean, simple mod, Bill. How thin was the wall of that tubing? I know there is not much room between the barrel and breech.
Tubing is 6061 T6 Alum. .50 OD X .444 ID Wall is .028". Pretty thin/light stuff. I got it from Onlinemetals.
Dave & Barry, I also believe "great minds think alike". However, in this case I believe we are all stricken by the same disease and therefore displaying the same symptoms.
Hope they don't find a cure. :D
"Hope they don't find a cure." There is NO CURE , Just theatment!! ;) Do more mods and buy more guns ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on May 09, 2014, 05:18:53 AM
"Hope they don't find a cure." There is NO CURE , Just theatment!! ;) Do more mods and buy more guns ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yup
Little fluff and buff. Did another coat of tung oil on the grips and re-blue on the barrel plus some polishing on the 5star breech.
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Nice work Barry. :-* :-* :-*
Thanks Tom. I get bored start drinking then , well this is what I do. ;D ;D ;D :-*
Works for me. ;) :) :) :)
Love the grips ... :-\ :-*
It sucks that Rick just dropped out, but his grips are very popular and he was hounded to the point of leaving as we can see.
He did make some fine grips. Those are another one of the keeper pieces. :-*
Quote from: bgmcgee on May 10, 2014, 02:47:37 AM
Little fluff and buff. Did another coat of tung oil on the grips and re-blue on the barrel plus some polishing on the 5star breech.
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Nice man. Definitely keepers.
Is there anyone else that makes grips on the forum?
Davio has some that are going to be on the market soon.
Thank YOU for your answer, I don't know Davio, will he be advertising them or do I have to contact him for more info...
Have A GREAT rest of the weekend :)
Bill :)
Sorry din't post link to his site here it is.
http://www.alchemyairwerks.com/ (http://www.alchemyairwerks.com/)
Ordered a T4 as a project pistol. Made valve mods and customized it a bit, self machined co2/grip lever and rear sight from aluminum. Will post a very thorough thread in the CO2/technical area.
Looks cool Stever. :-*
Thank you, the co2 piercing lever and rear sight were broken in the package and since I was planning on doing valve mods I thought I'd make lemonade out of lemons.
Gun looks nice great idea I have a extra M&P 45 might do something like that.
Mike
Just stripped my Archer maple grips to go on the Plain Jane gun, so I am in the process of applying ebony stain to them now. Gotta have black grips for my Plain Jane gun.
Quote from: Crosshairs on May 11, 2014, 08:41:11 PM
Gun looks nice great idea I have a extra M&P 45 might do something like that.
Mike
Thanks, those two pieces were about two weeks of sacrificed morning/lunch breaks at work. Let's see, go hungry or machine crosman air pistol parts? You can see what I chose.
got around to installing the 2300s lw barrel and .177 ss extended hollow probe on my 2240. or is it a 1740 now? dont know what to call it anymore heh. in a few weeks i guess the only original parts left on the gun will be the valve at this rate :-[
was gonna testfire but its been really cold the last week and when i sat down outside to try it out the wind started picking up quite alot. +8c and high winds arent the best for scope adjustement and accuracy testing i suppose
Nice shooter. :-* I like the grips too.
Quote from: Jauvesst on May 18, 2014, 08:59:04 AM
got around to installing the 2300s lw barrel and .177 ss extended hollow probe on my 2240. or is it a 1740 now? dont know what to call it anymore heh. in a few weeks i guess the only original parts left on the gun will be the valve at this rate :-[
was gonna testfire but its been really cold the last week and when i sat down outside to try it out the wind started picking up quite alot. +8c and high winds arent the best for scope adjustement and accuracy testing i suppose
Sweet 1740!
Super Nice shooter :-* :-*
Very nice jauvesst.
That is a good looking gun, Jauvesst. Your going to have fun shooting that tack driver.
thanks guys. im afraid im not done with it yet altho my wallet is screaming for mercy already
made a home for it with a old suitcase
Nice... I like the fabric over the foam for the cut-outs, looks waaaay better than many that have the "dog chewed" effect in the foam! :-*
that yellow foam crudely cut with scissors would look plain awful without the fabric :P
You have done an awesome job, gun, case and are an inspiration :)
| just finished another 180 stock --- 7 coats tung oil(steel wool + soft nylon brush between coats), 1 coat satin finish poly(lightly sanded with 600 grit D/W paper then soft nylon brush),1 coat of clear polyurethane with a lightly sanding with the same paper |
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That is looking good Eric :)
Quote from: Old Dog on May 23, 2014, 01:28:47 AM
That is looking good Eric :)
thanks --- just need to get my act together on the rest of it
Real nice work guys.I have a few projects on the drawing table. I have a 760 of my brothers that we used to shoot years ago to get shooting again.He is the original owner. Then I am trying to get some parts from Don Cothran so I can mod my 2260 but that is a bit of a problem.When that is done I am going to build something else from the leftover parts from that.Then I have a ss 2240 tube from him already that might become a short pistol. Oh and I also have a walnut set of grips and pump arm from Ralph Brown that I have to finish.
Quote from: eric on May 23, 2014, 02:07:40 AM
thanks --- just need to get my act together on the rest of it
lookin good :-*
Quote from: KevinP on May 23, 2014, 09:47:33 AM
lookin good :-*
+1... nice work Eric on another great classic, wood and steel, gotta love it :-\ :-*
http://youtu.be/2bwiBxgT3iE (http://youtu.be/2bwiBxgT3iE)
http://youtu.be/nP1G12ff1oU (http://youtu.be/nP1G12ff1oU)
Quote from: KevinP on May 23, 2014, 09:47:33 AM
lookin good :-*
Quote from: BDS on May 23, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
+1... nice work Eric on another great classic, wood and steel, gotta love it :-\ :-*
thanks folks and brian, yes real wood(cheap) and steel, can't go wrong there fer shur
Did a little lathe work today for my next build
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No need to tell you good ppl what it is ;)
Jim
No matter how long the question about the build is phrased; I assume the answer would be short. ;)
Someone is building a stubby!
Quote from: brz-ryder on May 27, 2014, 03:05:55 AM
Did a little lathe work today for my next build
Jim
Nice can't wait to see the finished project. :-* :-* :-*
Had my 2400KT breech and tube reblued..I take extreme care of my things but there were factory defects like shallow scratches and dings on the finish. Small yes but it bothers me that I see bare metal and not so good bluing..I am a perfectionist and I do not like minor defects..I have never scratched them 1 bit btw.
I also had the tube's tips lathed and deburred to remove the somewhat rough cutting..If you would notice the ends have a bit of chips from the factory..
I paid $20 yes very cheap :-* and since I like the result very much I am going to have my other guns done as well..
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Quote from: crossliner on June 05, 2014, 02:35:07 PM
Had my 2400KT breech and tube reblued..I take extreme care of my things but there were factory defects like shallow scratches and dings on the finish. Small yes but it bothers me that I see bare metal and not so good bluing..I am a perfectionist and I do not like minor defects..I have never scratched them 1 bit btw.
I also had the tube's tips lathed and deburred to remove the somewhat rough cutting..If you would notice the ends have a bit of chips from the factory..
I paid $20 yes very cheap :-* and since I like the result very much I am going to have my other guns done as well..
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They look great!!
Thank you sir..For the next 2400KT tube, I will have it loaded in a lathe and fine-sanded to make it even smoother when going to the blue bath..How much does something like this cost in the US? Regards.
I swapped out my 18" barrel for a 24" and replaced my UTG Compact Bug Buster scope with a Leapers 4x32 and modified a 2289 pump arm as a cheek rest.
Here's a pic.
I just spent 1 1/2 hrs filling down a steel tube I found in my garage to make a tool to remove the nut on my phase 1 357 valve. Just to find there in nothing in there but a flat plastic seal. Crud! I was hoping for o-rings like my pumpers so I could fix this thing. I have a new phase II that blew out the CO2 on the 3rd cart I put in it. It's broke now too. I'm about ready to send my 38T to Dennis Baker or BnA or Mac1 to get it fixed. I guess I'm just not a CO2 repair guy. :( :(
Quote from: josixpack on June 05, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
I swapped out my 18" barrel for a 24" and replaced my UTG Compact Bug Buster scope with a Leapers 4x32 and modified a 2289 pump arm as a cheek rest.
Here's a pic.
That pump arm cheek rest looks like it was designed for it, LOOKIN GOOD all together!!!
Quote from: crossliner on June 05, 2014, 02:35:07 PM
Had my 2400KT breech and tube reblued...
First class all the way, Richard. Quite jealous at how inexpensively you are able to have work like that done.
You are pretty much the 'king of the blues' while Droid wears the crown as the 'king of the brass'.
Quote from: josixpack on June 05, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
I swapped out my 18" barrel for a 24" and replaced my UTG Compact Bug Buster scope with a Leapers 4x32 and modified a 2289 pump arm as a cheek rest.
Here's a pic.
Love it! Nice move! :)
Quote from: mudduck48 on June 05, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
I just spent 1 1/2 hrs filling down a steel tube I found in my garage to make a tool to remove the nut on my phase 1 357 valve. Just to find there in nothing in there but a flat plastic seal. Crud! I was hoping for o-rings like my pumpers so I could fix this thing. I have a new phase II that blew out the CO2 on the 3rd cart I put in it. It's broke now too. I'm about ready to send my 38T to Dennis Baker or BnA or Mac1 to get it fixed. I guess I'm just not a CO2 repair guy. :( :(
I have a 454 that I have ALMOST given up on,BUT I'm to hardheaded to do that just yet!! I know you are the same way!! So hang in there DUCK !!!
At least with the pumpers, you remove this and remove that and you can get to the valve. With the CO2 guns, it is a whole nother ball game. I might try to fix this thing, but if it still take a poop, it is going into the archives. :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Crossliner the bluing on those parts look awesome.
josixpack that build looks nice.
Duck don't give up on that valve.
You know, it's not so much fixing the valve, if I can get the parts I can fix it. It is taking the revolver apart with all of the springs and stuff and trying to get back in working order. I guess I just need to jump in and do it. If it don't work, sell the parts on ebay and start over. No big deal, it's only money and I can find another phase I 357. But I have a really nice 38T I need to get working. That is why I'm messing with the 357 to get my feet wet on revolvers. :-*
Ihave a 38T and there is a lot more in there than I thought there was!! Its setting on a shelf for now but I'm GOIN to tear into it one da !!!!
Since completing the basics on my 2240 mods to make a .177cal, long (18") barreled pistol with a shoulder stock, I'd been thinking on how to upgrade the sights in a way to keep up with the other enhancements.
Up until now, I had been using the stock (plastic) rear sight that I had modified to fit the dovetailed notch at the rear of the steel breech. Using it in the peep sight mode, I found it to be quite accurate but I just wanted to class it up a bit. My first thought was the Crosman LPA MIM sight (~$40). After reading a thread RE: inexpensive rear sights, I considered ordering the parts to mount up the Williams sight system used on the Benjamin Discovery (? $$ but I've read it's comparable to the LPA MIM cost wise). I also considered some of the rear sight units used on some of the Crosman break-barrel springers as well as those on the generic Chinese springers. All still have potential as I like to keep my options open.
Yesterday (Thursday) while out on the "Garage Sale Trail" (they start early around here) I spotted a satin silver scope on one of the tables. I had kind of decided to NOT scope this build since I think that many of the scopes that folks put on air guns significantly exceed the gun's capabilities. Not trying to say that an individual can't do exactly as they please with their creations nor to say that I haven't done so myself, but really, a 4-9x 40mm scope seems like a bit much for a gun used to shoot at targets <100 ft distant. But I digress :-[.
Anyway, this particular scope, a Nc Star 2.5x 30E was labeled as a pistol scope. I noticed immediately that the eye relief was considerable. I thought that I just might be able to set it up in the "scout mode" on my hybrid. The 2.5x magnification would be just about right for typical shooting distances. They wanted $10 but I got it for $8. OK, I think.
Once home, I checked it out closer and did a bit of research. Turns out that most don't think it's much of a pistol scope BUT thought it would work great as a scout set up. Good for me.
I had a set of 1" rings for 11mm dovetail mounts and mounted it up last night. It's not perfect but I think that I will be able to make it work. Here are some pics:
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A proper mount is limited by the length of the dovetail atop the breech and the dimensions of the scope itself. Basically, I need to make some additional mods. What do you folks think? Flex
Looks good and compliments the brake.
Quote from: pump-n-dump on June 06, 2014, 09:28:43 PM
Looks good and compliments the brake.
Actually, I took the muzzle brake off of my 2289 to compliment the scope ;)! I also have the nickel colored bolt handle but didn't think to switch it out for the "photo-shoot" ???. Kinda hard to see but I also "re-bolted" with SS bolts. The trigger is merely a stock one with the paint polished off.
I may have to get one of those dovetail to Weaver adaptors that will allow me to mount the scope even more forward. that will involve a new set of rings unless I can do some "creative swapping" between some of my other set ups. Flex
The color contrast between the brake , scope , trigger is even more interesting when one views the carts in their holder on the stock also bright, just for fun polish some expended carts and use them when taking photos of your cool build, a job well done...
THANKS for sharing :)
:-*SWEET :-*
Looks great Flex, I like it.
What is the carbon fiber looking piece between the breech and barrel band?
Quote from: Tater on June 07, 2014, 10:22:07 AM
Looks great Flex, I like it.
What is the carbon fiber looking piece between the breech and barrel band?
I figured someone would ask sooner of later. It's a piece of (I believe) reinforced rubber fuel line split lengthwise. Originally, it's purpose was to add thickness to the barrel so that a spring loaded bipod that I have could get a better grip on the barrel. The pic shows it in the "storage position", when in use, it fits just in front of the barrel support. I have read however, that anytime that a bipod is attached directly to the barrel, the point of impact can move considerably. To be honest, I've not shot it with the bipod for that reason. I'm thinking of attaching a "stud" to the piercing knob to allow for attaching the bipod without affecting pellet POI.
For now, the piece of tubing just sits there "lookin" cool" (and doin' nuthin').
Flex
Quote from: breakfastchef on June 05, 2014, 11:38:43 PM
First class all the way, Richard. Quite jealous at how inexpensively you are able to have work like that done.
You are pretty much the 'king of the blues' while Droid wears the crown as the 'king of the brass'.
Thank you Mr. Larry and Mr. Targetti but no I was inspired by that UKI build :-*..That Polish gent knows what clean is all about 8)
I just got these grips off of a guy on the AA classifieds they are very nice.This is not the permanent home (I think ??? ???) but I had to see how they feel and fit.I am very happy. :-\ :-\ :-\
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Good looking grips Tom. :-* How was the price ???
They do look good, do you know what kind of wood they are and are there more available?
Quote from: Old Dog on June 13, 2014, 02:38:35 AM
They do look good, do you know what kind of wood they are and are there more available?
This fella called Vernon posts a few grips nearly every week. Tom took one for the team and they turned out to be quite good. He recently sold two sets of Claro walnut grips that had very nice figure.
Bookmark this site...
http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/classifieds.php (http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/classifieds.php)
Sorry they are walnut grips they are made by Vernon Austin I paid $52 for them.He posts grips every weeks or so.
Thanks for the grip info...
I just emailed Vernon for the set he has advertised on AA for $56.00 hope I am first in on them...
I saw them when Larry posted the link and had to try for them too LOL. If you get them you will not be disappointed.
Cool grips Tom. :-*
Thanks Tater.
scope finally arrived from the UK 8) so its mounted and the case has gotten adjusted for the gun with scope and a few accesories
my spideysenses are detecting different scope mounts in the future as the normal rings are just barely allowing me to mount the scope in a position where i can actually use it.
*insert random long and black stereotypical joke here*
now for a new stock and regulator+various internal mods next
Nice looking set you have there. Can you see into the next town with that scope? I like it. :-*
That is a big piece of glass on that marauder Jauvesst. :-* :-* :-*
i think i have mentioned it in another thread but that scope is a nikko stirling nighteater 10-50x60mm
the glass is slightly grey-ish in tone but otherwise alot of scope for the money
Done a mock-up of my new build. here is a pic. of it. Just a little tease of whats to come!! ;) ;) ;)
That is going to look FINE when it's finished :)
Looking nice ... :-*
Had my "muzzle brake's" front caps concaved coz it looks cooler and weighs lighter..They look like flashlight reflectors eh?
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They looked like this before..
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Quote from: crossliner on July 15, 2014, 01:48:02 PM
Had my "muzzle brake's" front caps concaved coz it looks cooler and weighs lighter..They look like flashlight reflectors eh?
Very classy, as usual. Did you notice any shift in POI with the concave caps?
Thanks Mr. Larry..No POI is just the same..
My machinist had to make a threaded adapter so as not to clamp the caps and ruin their surface.
I have a question for you, does your S200 group better w/ the TKO on or w/o it?
Those muzzle caps do look cool, but I'm wondering why there was so much material in them in the first place that you'd have enough room to concave them out. What, were they like an inch thick to begin with?
Quote from: agninja on July 15, 2014, 02:10:21 PM
Those muzzle caps do look cool, but I'm wondering why there was so much material in them in the first place that you'd have enough room to concave them out. What, were they like an inch thick to begin with?
Haha so you have noticed! Yes the first versions ( 3rd pic) were very thick they had snouts..I had them refaced to reduce weight as you can see on the middle pic and again 2 weeks ago to furthermore make them lighter--cooler too lol!
I still have the orig cap but the hole is hexed and big..These caps right now are only for .177 pellets.
Quote from: agninja on July 15, 2014, 02:10:21 PM
Those muzzle caps do look cool, but I'm wondering why there was so much material in them in the first place that you'd have enough room to concave them out. What, were they like an inch thick to begin with?
Those 2 other muzzle brakes are all delrin MWSS made by a UK guy named Matt Winser..I bought 4 of them and had them shipped here although the gent had no idea as it was my friend in the UK who did it for me.
Crossliner those are awesome Sir :-\ :-*
Thanks Mr. Ernesto :-*
Quote from: crossliner on July 15, 2014, 02:05:55 PM
Thanks Mr. Larry..I have a question for you, does your S200 group better w/ the TKO on or w/o it?
Honestly, I can't answer that. I checked my notes and saw that the TKO was installed four days after receiving the rifle. Though I have no targets from those four days, my notes indicate that accuracy was impressive in the 10M indoor range.
I was shooting at a knock down target at 20 and 30 yards yesterday in sitting position and the gun was hitting right on the money. This thing is ready for FT in WFTF class if I ever get around to it.
Quote from: breakfastchef on July 15, 2014, 03:15:30 PM
Honestly, I can't answer that. I checked my notes and saw that the TKO was installed four days after receiving the rifle. Though I have no targets from those four days, my notes indicate that accuracy was impressive in the 10M indoor range.
I was shooting at a knock down target at 20 and 30 yards yesterday in sitting position and the gun was hitting right on the money. This thing is ready for FT in WFTF class if I ever get around to it.
The S2 is one heck of a gun yes sir and it is very much capable of that..
I have done heavy testing lately and I have noticed that it will group better w/ a "muzzle brake" on ( particularly the MWSS ) even better w/ a stripper on or sans end attachments..My ranges are from 40 to 60 meters..Right now it likes 10 ang 8g Air Arms pellets but before when it was still in its original factory setting the JSBs were doing better..It also did not like 10g versions in both brands very much. Honestly, just the other day I almost put 10 AA 10g pellets in one not so ragged hole from 50 meters..Had 2 strays but it was my mistake..Again the gun was suppressed..
Regards.
Quote from: crossliner on July 15, 2014, 03:48:46 PM
The S2 is one heck of a gun yes sir and it is very much capable of that..
I have done heavy testing lately and I have noticed that it will group better w/ a "muzzle brake" on ( particularly the MWSS ) even better w/ a stripper on or sans end attachments..My ranges are from 40 to 60 meters..Right now it likes 10 ang 8g Air Arms pellets but before when it was still in its original factory setting the JSBs were doing better..It also did not like 10g versions in both brands very much. Honestly, just the other day I almost put 10 AA 10g pellets in one not so ragged hole from 50 meters..Had 2 strays but it was my mistake..Again the gun was suppressed..
Regards.
Could be a matter of barrel harmonics in which a weighted device on the end enhances accuracy. Your description sort of confirms this may be the case. I have read on other forums that several people have opened up the barrel band to free float the barrel and claim enhanced accuracy. I have not done this as I see no reason since my gun shoots very well.
Quote from: breakfastchef on July 15, 2014, 03:52:41 PM
Could be a matter of barrel harmonics in which a weighted device on the end enhances accuracy. Your description sort of confirms this may be the case. I have read on other forums that several people have opened up the barrel band to free float the barrel and claim enhanced accuracy. I have not done this as I see no reason since my gun shoots very well.
That may be true sir or maybe it is shooting too hot so when suppressed it kind of gets regulated I really don't know..My friend in Manila also has the same results on his HW100..His prefers the Weirauch MB over the MWSS though as he was able to buy both "attachments" from me..
The foibles of them pcp's is mind boggling..
Regards.
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I replace the OEM muzzle cap w/ a stainless one, the face is concave..The orig one is alum and anodized and I do not want it to get scratched..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_3345_zps220d705f.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_3345_zps220d705f.jpg.html)
Also a stainless male/male "muzzlebrake" adapter..
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With the Hatsan w/ ss cone installed ( the orig cone is brass w/c I do not like as it does not conform w/ my S5's color theme) the accuracy is the same but it looks cooler and the crack is sharper :-*
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(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_3342_zpsd57d111b.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_3342_zpsd57d111b.jpg.html)
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With the MWSS all delrin "muzzlebrakes" it is much accurate because recoil becomes almost non existent..Yesterday I was able to put 7 pellets inside a 3/4" target @ 100 meters no BS..I used sorted, weighed and resized AA 16g..This is my 100 meter gun btw :-*
That is a sweet shooter sir. Sounds very accurate too.
Thanks sir and yes it is very accurate but I still have to determine its sweetest spot..I sort, weigh and sometimes resize my pellets..It likes resized AA 16s..
I disasembled my AA and cleaned and polished its hammer, hammer guide and spring..Okay gents I had the hammer polished by a plater because I was not contented..
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The hammer is really dirty and blemished..
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The hammer is now clean and shiny but just so so and not up to my standards..
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Post polish by the plater guy..Now it's crossliner shiny lol!
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Now for more bling..The AA's bolts are just black oxide type..I bought ss ones but had them lathed because they look ugly w/ all those serrations and inscriptions..Had them polished too that even their innards are shiny..
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The ones on the right are the unfinished ones they look like ogres..
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(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_3539_zpsaa076e03.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_3539_zpsaa076e03.jpg.html)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_3540_zps6cb95c8d.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_3540_zps6cb95c8d.jpg.html)
OEM stock washer on the left..It is just zinc plated..I had an ss one made w/c is wider and conforms to the stock's bolt hole..
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very shiney senor
ped
Wow Crossliner that is some serious bling detail action, love it!!!!
Thank you gents :-*
Have to break out the sunglasses before you go shooting, don't you. Looks blinding. Lol 8)
Well Mr.C.you do know how to make it shiny. Very nice sir. :-*
As for me I just mounted the new mamba lite on a bkl adjustable one piece mount. Going out to my brothers gravel plant tomorrow to play for awhile. He and one of his co-workers are shooters so it should be fun.
you folks sure do some nice work :-*
Gracias again gents :-*
Mr. Barry perfect combo and you will like that MTC scope..The SCB reticle is really great and the glass is also very decent..I sold my Viper though because it was too heavy and large.
Gracias again gents :-*
Mr. Barry perfect combo and you will like that MTC scope..The SCB reticle is really great and the glass is also very decent..I sold my Viper though because it was too heavy and large.
Mounted the 'signed' pump arm made to match my grips :)
Quote from: ettolo on March 02, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
Mounted the 'signed' pump arm made to match my grips :)
The design is unique and nice :-*
That's a nice set of grips you have there. :-*
Quote from: ettolo on March 02, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
Mounted the 'signed' pump arm made to match my grips :)
Awesome and certainly different! Um... how did you mount that rear sight on a stock breech?
Tore down and did a lube tune on the old Diana 45 I picked up a year or so ago. Pretty well built springer. It was in real clean shape inside. The spring and leather piston seal looked like new. She seems to shoot a bunch smoother with a little moly on the piston and guide and some tar on the spring. I'm happy.
I am going to replace one of my Disco valve springs with the copper color spring.
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag124/josephb1969/IMAG2013_zpsd45dcd35.jpg)
...to be cont.
Cooked up a nice block of ballistic gel. Want to see what damage the Mr. Hollowpoint ,457 dia. 185 grain hollow points will do to it.
Quote from: mr007s on March 03, 2015, 02:23:55 AM
Cooked up a nice of ballistic gel. Want to see what damage the Mr. Hollowpoint ,457 dia. 185 grain hollow points will do to it.
Me, too.
I put together a pseudo-Backpacker on Saturday. Too many updated/upgraded parts to be able to call it a true Backpacker.
Nice looking rig, now lets see some holes in the target. :P
Quote from: BigErn on March 03, 2015, 01:24:41 AM
Awesome and certainly different! Um... how did you mount that rear sight on a stock breech?
Thank you and the other for the kind words on my work!
I removed the standard sight, made little hole in the breech (there is a little alignment pin below the sight) and screwed the new sight with a longer screw. Had to reduce the screw head diameter to fit the slot in the sight. This rear sight is too high, so i glued a little piece of plastic in the front sight.
The sight is a cheap gamo http://www.ferraioli.com/catalogo/774-tacca-di-mira-cfx.asp (http://www.ferraioli.com/catalogo/774-tacca-di-mira-cfx.asp)
hope this helps! :-*
Quote from: ettolo on March 02, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
Mounted the 'signed' pump arm made to match my grips :)
Hi,
Those are nice grips. Oak? I normally don't like oak but you have me thinking about it.
How did you mount the sight on the plastic receiver? And did you do any work to make the receiver and barrel more stable for it? Thanks
Thank you twigboy!
Yes that's a kind of oak... it is 'rovere' in italian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercus_petraea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercus_petraea))
How to mount is written two post before this! ;)
I didn't do any further work, i'm waiting to buy a metal breech.
If you need more help I can take photos this monday
Slicked up the trigger on my 1377. Ground about 3/32" off the bottom edge of the sear where the spring contacts it. Also radiused the rear lower corner so it doesn't contact the spring. Polised the contact points and lubed. Made a nice improvement and tightened my groups. Today I installed a backpacker forearm - much more comfortable pumping. Other mods on order.
I finished setting up my 45 meter range down the hill from my house. I hang targets on the line between the T-posts. The drum is serving as my bench at the moment. The side view is with the drum at five meters. The long view is from 40 meters out. Its not a lot to look at, but if any one is ever in Yakima, WA, let me know. :)
That's a nice looking home range GC.
Thanks. With spring coming early to the Northwest, I hope to soon be out using it much more. Its long enough that I may finally learn how to shoot rifles. ;)
sanded and repainted grip frame, filed and polished shear and backside of the trigger. installed flat piston, breech, extended hollow probe, lw barrel and grips. sanded and oiled frontgrip and testfitted everything
frontgrip will likely be waxed to match the grips and piston might need adjusting. whole thing needs to be properly lubed but ive been at it for long enough today
Busy day ... lookin good ... :-*
Very nice!
Lookin' good Jauv.
Looking good
its coming along nicely. but apparently my moly grease was lost during moving so will be a bit before its finished. anyone got a good way to remove wax from grips? it doesnt show well in the crappy phone picture as i had just put on a makeshift layer of oil but the front grip is matte and the grips are very glossy from the oil+bee wax finish and id rather have them both matte. if i cant remove the wax properly from the grips ill likely wax the front grip/pump arm aswell to make it a matching pair
To remove wax gently warm the wood and dry with absorbent paper... you'll have to do that many times
you could also try with a cloth with turpentine, but that could ruin the color
Finally got a gun that needs work
Jans22 sent me his gun to work on and it made me miss building guns. Unfortunately. My local crosman repair station retired. So if i want parts i have to order from crosman now and wont get the great prices that i was spoiled with.
Using a book matched set of Leopardwood knife scales, I made another set of grips for my P-1. The finger notches are part of an insert by Pearce. RC
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WoW came out nice .... :-*
Thanks Kevin. It's a pretty cool looking wood. RC
Nice, really nice grips. ;) ;)
I swapped a new trigger group into my 1740 and used it as an excuse to do a full tear down. When putting it back together, I polished the hammer, deburred the air tube, and moly'd the hammer and tube. The new trigger group has a brass trigger, safety, and sear guide from Airgunsmith. The sear was polished on the hammer and the trigger contact points. The trigger was polished where it meets the sear. Everything seems to work. The trigger has a little bit of take up and a clean break. The hammer moves much smoother when the gun is cocked, so I expect it is moving better when it is released. Now if it will only stop raining so I can get out and do some shooting.
I just finished up a rebuild of a mk1 for forum member spider1960. Dennis bought it but it wouldn't hold gas and Charles aka Mudduck suggested to him to send it on down to me. After a couple of orings and new valve stem from mac 1 she is a shooter again. :-* Going to let it sit a couple of days just to make sure it's holding but I'm pretty sure all is good. I'll run it over the hrony this weekend and see where it's shooting but as of right now I'll say its right where it should be if not a little hotter.
Tinkering with a recently acquired Crosman 100. Made the tool to dis assemble the rifle a little bit ago.
Entire rifle needs to be re-sealed...rather than carve up the original parts, or order NOS/reproduction parts from someone else....decided to make a new valve body and stem. :)
Made a couple subtle changes to the valve, but maintained stock porting which IMO is more than needed for .177...but I can hog it out later without worry (or attack of conscience) should that be deemed necessary. Still need to make a new rear half and check valve...will use an o-ring to seal to the pump tube rather than the fiber washer the factory used.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/20150324_213725_zpsgzov3uo4.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/20150324_213725_zpsgzov3uo4.jpg.html)
Will need to make a new piston assembly for the pump as well. Not sure if I want to rust blue the small steel parts or have a go at niter bluing...fun little project. :)
Al
Nice job ... !!! :-*
looks good Al
ped
I just ordered a Boss Buddy high flow transfer port and the High Performance Pump RP Valve. It seemed easier then flat topping my valve and then buying a new piston. I want to get a steel breech and longer barrel, about 16 inches. I have seen barrel mounts at about half the price of the steel breech. Has anyone have any experience with these barrel mounts?
Quote from: Bud on March 30, 2015, 05:06:09 AM
I just ordered a Boss Buddy high flow transfer port and the High Performance Pump RP Valve. It seemed easier then flat topping my valve and then buying a new piston. I want to get a steel breech and longer barrel, about 16 inches. I have seen barrel mounts at about half the price of the steel breech. Has anyone have any experience with these barrel mounts?
They are not as solid as steel breeches, I myself would not waste money on them.
what the senor said pro blocks are next to useless to mount optics a steel breech is the way to go
ped
Just built this .25 caliber with 2260 tube and 2250 forearm. I have not chronied it yet, but JSB domed King going to 19 layers of cardboard.
Specs:
2260 tube powder coated Chassis Grey
Grip frame casting lines removed and then powder coated to match
Hardened fulcrum trigger
Clipped sear spring with spring guide
Stronger hammer spring with guide
Boss RP valve and +25% transfer port
Brass extended probe with larger (for .25) o-ring configuration
Crosman steel breech with Brass handle and brass breech button
2250 barrel band for fore arm attachment
2250/2400 fore arm hydrographed winter camo
Grips (new style Crosman) hydrographed winter camo
Brass barrel band at end of tube
.25 caliber air stripper with threads removed and grub screw added to bore
18" .25 barrel powder coated to match
Left to do:
Backfill the grips solid with urethane resin
Install Rear Williams peep sight
Tap and install brass sight pin on the Stripper
Install 3 MOA red dot
Now this is just beyond super nice .... :-\ :-*
Sweet shooter, davio!
Quote from: Davio on April 01, 2015, 08:08:13 AM
Just built this .25 caliber with 2260 tube and 2250 forearm. I have not chronied it yet, but JSB domed King going to 19 layers of cardboard.
We can't wait to see the numbers!
as always david nice work
ped
Outstanding work. RC
Boy! That is a nice looking build. I do like it. :-*
Where in the world did you find all those cool parts? ;)
Thanks for the kind words, brothers.
Everything was Crosman and/or Alchemy in-house made or modified except...
the stripper (Hatsan .25) that we modified to fit on .500 OD barrel.
the .25 barrel (although we did the port, the leade and turned the barrel down to .500 OD before we powder coated it.
Both the brass band and the 2250/2400 band had to be made to accept the coated tube and the .500 coated barrel.
Tools, time and want-to...
The probe is a brass .22 stock length probe that we added a ss tip to for extension... and to fit the .25 leade and bore it has a .177 Viton o-ring with a .22 Viton o-ring over that. I made it before I shaped the leade so I KNOW it seals perfectly. I can load any .25 pellet I have (and I have them all) EXCEPT for the really long Eunjin .25 pointed. I would have to remove the ss tip from the probe to make those feed. I shoot JSB King .25 most of the time and they feed like butter.
This is a long pistol, so I am going to dip a matching carbine stock so it can go either way.
2260 all dressed up.
Steel breech
Brass extended probe
Brass Large TearDrop Handle
Brass trigger
Brass barrel band
Brass Mini Brake w/ Brass Adjustable Sight Pin
Boss RP Valve
+25% Transfer Port
Williams WGRS-54 Rear Sight
Work remaining:
Sling Swivels
Paracord Sling (I love them)
The 2260 looks fantastic Mr. Davio :-*
looks good david
ped
Had a ss bumper bolt reconfigured to replace the ATI's plastic one..It snapped in two when I overtightened it.
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Had the tipped lathed coz I don't like it to potrude.
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Put o-rings on the threaded portion for a cleaner look..
This Crosman I have put this ATI cheek rest on is one of my most accurate guns, it has a 24" barrel w/c I bore-polished.
Put o-rings on the threaded portion for a cleaner look..
This Crosman I have put this ATI cheek rest on is one of my most accurate guns, it has a 24" barrel w/c I bore-polished.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_3776_zpstifsmxmk.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_3776_zpstifsmxmk.jpg.html)
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13470.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13470.0.html)
2 days ago I went out to 45 yards..I used 10g AA this time..It was even windy and yet my baby still grouped this well with and w/o a "muzzlebrake.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_3778_zpshrgzjzsu.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_3778_zpshrgzjzsu.jpg.html)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/79029355-16aa-443b-9ee7-facc4a905d3f_zpsa85u8nln.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/79029355-16aa-443b-9ee7-facc4a905d3f_zpsa85u8nln.jpg.html)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/08cc9d3b-c2b2-4eb3-abed-fa55ceec1b6a_zpsv0nxfqkq.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/08cc9d3b-c2b2-4eb3-abed-fa55ceec1b6a_zpsv0nxfqkq.jpg.html)
This is my friend's place btw, we used to hold competitions here but not anymore.
My Norica Massimo was a bit of a bear to cock, and the cycle was rough, and so, I took it apart and shortened the spring 1.5", heated and hammered down the cut end, polished it, and put the rifle back together. Much better. :) RC
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd35/rcolbourne/Massimo_zpsd6caf8a0.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/rcolbourne/media/Massimo_zpsd6caf8a0.jpg.html)
That's a cool looking shooter rc. :-*
Thanks, and it's very accurate with a great, fully adjustable trigger. RC
Finished the 1377 rebuild last night when I finally got the Boss Buddy installed. All of the parts are either Crosman or Davio's excellent work. Tomorrow will be target day, weather and hunny do lists permitting.
I am playing with a QB79. I just got a 9 oz. alum tank installed to it with no clearance problems. I will be tearing into this guns to see what all kinds of mischief and mayhem can be done to the valve, the port, etc.
As disillusioned as I am about my QB57 side lever springer (just meh), I must say that this QB79 is a nice gun that seems fairly well made. Fit and finish is surprisingly good and I think it has lots of potential to be a very fun gun. We will see.
good guns david need a bit of fettling though especially the finish on the moving parts
ped
I hear you, bother. The pot metal safety that has to be knocked off to clear the way for stock removal is just plain lazy engineering. I think the port material is petrified ear wax. The valve is half full of bits that should not be on a bulk fill gun. I thought it was baffled within the valve for a moment. :D The inside of the barrel makes me think that our Chinese friends are sending toxic sludge to other countries in not-so-small quantities. My Geiger counter is on the fritz or I could say for certain. ;D
your not wrong there my friend but they do have good potential ,rsterne has got some very impressive numbers from these (he manages that with all his builds though)
ped
Quote from: Davio on April 04, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
As disillusioned as I am about my QB57 side lever springer (just meh)
With a simple adjustment of the rod that connects the trigger blade to the mechanism, the trigger will lose the slop on the QB57. RC
@ Davio - Did you have to do any difficult mods to instal the 9oz. tank on the QB? Reading some of Jason's detailed posts on GTA makes me scared to try it if I ever got one of those guns, just not sure if you guys are modding the same model gun.
Quote from: crossliner on April 02, 2015, 03:52:55 PM
Put o-rings on the threaded portion for a cleaner look..
This Crosman I have put this ATI cheek rest on is one of my most accurate guns, it has a 24" barrel w/c I bore-polished.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/IMG_3776_zpstifsmxmk.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/DARKHORSE1967/media/IMG_3776_zpstifsmxmk.jpg.html)
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13470.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,13470.0.html)
Nice work everyone! Crossliner a metal sleeve would be nice ther too instead of the o-rings but great idea Sir :-*
I still want to convert my QB78 into a .30 beast...anyone have any advice?
Joe
Quote from: Monkeydad1969 on April 07, 2015, 02:59:08 AM
I still want to convert my QB78 into a .30 beast...anyone have any advice?
Joe
You can get a QB PCP tube from Don Dothran. It's a start.
Glen
Quote from: tinker on April 07, 2015, 03:19:15 AM
You can get a QB PCP tube from Don Dothran. It's a start.
Glen
I was wondering if he made tubes for the QB. Do you know for sure and has he quoted you a price yet?
Then I would need valve work or a new valve. Then if I could get it to cock on the open and not the close...and...
Joe,
Anthony R posted on yellow about Don making QB tubes.
Here's the link: http://www.network54.com/Forum/113813/thread/1423951044/Aluminum+QB+Tubes (http://www.network54.com/Forum/113813/thread/1423951044/Aluminum+QB+Tubes)
Cock on open isn't too hard to do. I can do that if you like. (Modify the hammer)
Maybe nervoustrigger can do a valve up for you.
Almost there!
Glen
Quote from: Tater on April 06, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
@ Davio - Did you have to do any difficult mods to instal the 9oz. tank on the QB? Reading some of Jason's detailed posts on GTA makes me scared to try it if I ever got one of those guns, just not sure if you guys are modding the same model gun.
The QB79 is ready for the 9 oz tube. No modding required. :)
re-profiled a raised breech i got off one of the uk breech makers as it was too chunky
i've run a chamfer bit down each side and chamfered the loading port
as this was made as a lefty for a pistol with a hollow probe i've made a new bolt from brass with a stainless pin tip and a bent bolt handle then milled the breech to allow it to be either left or right handled
as i wanted to fit a band i've used a bnm shrouded one but had to lower the breech by a couple of mill(i have found since that i have a couple of shrouded bands from bnm that have different centers) to make it all line up
i also bored it out to take a 12mm fx barrel and did the leade and port in the barrel
also made some brass parts for my mk1 that i'm going to make into an ld
ped
Nice work ... :-*
Looking really good :-*
Quote from: ped on April 07, 2015, 11:48:35 AM
re-profiled a raised breech i got off one of the uk breech makers as it was too chunky
i've run a chamfer bit down each side and chamfered the loading port
as this was made as a lefty for a pistol with a hollow probe i've made a new bolt from brass with a stainless pin tip and a bent bolt handle then milled the breech to allow it to be either left or right handled
as i wanted to fit a band i've used a bnm shrouded one but had to lower the breech by a couple of mill(i have found since that i have a couple of shrouded bands from bnm that have different centers) to make it all line up
i also bored it out to take a 12mm fx barrel and did the leade and port in the barrel
also made some brass parts for my mk1 that i'm going to make into an ld
ped
Ped that gun looks seriously badazz!!!
getting there Ern only doing a few bits on it till i get some parts to finish off some builds i started a bit back
i've got an idea for a completely new valve front so as my ally bar stock has come i may do a bit more on it
ped
Quote from: tinker on April 07, 2015, 06:03:45 AM
Joe,
Anthony R posted on yellow about Don making QB tubes.
Here's the link: http://www.network54.com/Forum/113813/thread/1423951044/Aluminum+QB+Tubes (http://www.network54.com/Forum/113813/thread/1423951044/Aluminum+QB+Tubes)
Cock on open isn't too hard to do. I can do that if you like. (Modify the hammer)
Maybe nervoustrigger can do a valve up for you.
Almost there!
Glen
Thanks, Glen. I may have my .30 QB sooner than I expected.
Joe
Quote from: BigErn on April 06, 2015, 05:46:57 PM
Nice work everyone! Crossliner a metal sleeve would be nice ther too instead of the o-rings but great idea Sir :-*
You are right Mr. BE I did consider that but I have already found another 2" ss bolt replacement that is threaded only halfway..I will have it lathe-cut and redone and once installed only the threadless portion will be seen so no need for the o-rings..I will have it done tomorrow :-*
I got brave today and took my 38T apart to try to fix it. I got the valve out and noticed the nuts were loose. The more I looked at the parts diagram, the more I could see that I do not have the parts to fix this thing. So, I tightened the nuts on the transfer tube and put it back together. And yes, I sacrificed another cart to see if I did any good. PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. That cart dumped sooooooooooo fast. Rats!!! Need to order parts now and try again. :P :P
Not all is lost. Atleast you know how to tear it down and get it back together. :-*
Yep, I feel a little better now, knowing that I can take the valve out and get the gun back together, but I was not able to take the valve apart. I just need to get the right parts and then rip and tear. I have seen extra parts on ebay and there are more guns out there. It is not like these are the only parts left. I am going to fix this thing if it is the last build I do. :P :P
Quote from: mudduck48 on April 09, 2015, 05:04:12 AM
I am going to fix this thing if it is the last build I do. :P :P
I feel the same way about learning to shoot my .20 P-1 accurately if it's the last thing I do. :-* RC
a few bits of brass for my mk1 that i'm gradually converting to an ld style carbine
next will be fitting a 14mm fx/walther barrel but i'll get my good friend john small to turn it to the right od and thread it for the rear barrel retaining nut
i'm also going to look at fitting an o ring either side of the barrel port and maybe some bellevilles where the barrel passes through the rear shroud boss
ped
doing something a bit different with a as2250xt that will do away with the naff double seal on the transfer tube and increase valve volume
i'm using a disco rear valve case which i've shortened at the front by 5mm to allow the 22mm valve front to lip into the rear tube by 3mm and give me 2mm more meat where the side port is
i've fitted a p-rod valve stem by boring the stem hole partially out and fitted a threaded brass sleeve plus an o ring to eliminate any blow through
the valve has up rated csk fixings even though all the pressure will be contained in the valve and i'll be drilling the front breech screw m4 and threading into the valve plus drilling and tapping m4 for the rear screw position,i may add two front screws into the new valve front similar to the p-rod fixings if i think it needs it to reinforce the connection between the new ally front and the rear steel part
next stage will be cutting the ally valve front so it's the same length as a 2250 tube and bring the front out to form the front air chamber
ped
Great stuff there Ped,
Keep us informed on the progress with the as2250xt, I have an old one myself and keep looking to do something with it. Though my machining is very limited.
Btw, did you get the 22mm ally tube locally, am wanting some for another project I have been waiting to do.
it's not ally tube shaun it's a solid piece of ally that i've machined to be the valve front and bored the front out so that it's an air reservoir so the entire ally piece is the valve front
this allows me to do away with the little spacer that goes between the front air transfer tube and the valve and has increased the valve volume by at least 3 times i guess(haven't worked the volume out)
i use ringwood metals on evil bay for ally tube
ped
Ok cheers for that Ped, keep us informed of the work on the as2250xt. Only asked if it was local as I only live a few miles down road from you, Huddersfield ;)
we'll have to meet up sometime i've a good local source for carbon fiber tube
ped
Cool, working in Morley at the mo, :-*
Had a little time to play with the Crosman 100 tonight. :) Finished the valve body, check valve and pump assembly. Partially assembled and tested...pumps up and near as I can tell, the valve holds perfectly. 8) Dis-assembled, cleaned and partial re-assembly...just about ready for paint and the bulk of the machine work completed. :)
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Al
Nice. :-* :-* :-*
looks good Al
ped
made the eb20 a little bit quieter by adding a 1" pistol ldc
to do this i've altered a bluestreak 1/2"unf ldc adapter by shortening the back and adapting a 2240 co2 cap to fit,which involved removing most of the front to give room for the adapter and tapping m8 so a grub screw with a nut bonded on can be used to press against the co2 cart
ped
Nice work!
Pretty clever idea that looks nice. Well done. RC
Well after having my 25 M-Rod for a year or so, I decided to refinish the orangish light brown stock. Will go into details if anyone wants, but here's a couple of before, and after pics. Let me know what you think.
Before:
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Oh yeah, the black is bed liner where the checkering is to give better grip, and I extended it around the bottom of the grip area.
Casey
I just cleaned up a really old Sheridan Blue Streak .20 cal co2 rifle I had since I was a kid that my dad got a long time before that. I sanded the stock and put tongue oil on it. Looks great. I had to oil it down to clean off the rust and do a weird mod to fix the leaking valve. I couldn't help myself and had to nip a coil off the sear spring while I was "under the hood", and now the thing shoots like a dream. :-*
Casey, you have to be real happy with the way that stock turned out. That is a beauty! Great work. :-*
Casey that stock turned out awesome you wouldn't even know it was the one in the first pic great job. :-* :-* :-*
Nice work on the eb ped. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: BillK on April 24, 2015, 04:45:22 AM
Casey, you have to be real happy with the way that stock turned out. That is a beauty! Great work. :-*
Indeed, looks very high end :-*
that looks nice casey
ped
very nice job on the stock.
coming soon
Thanks guys, it took about a week to pull it all together, and I'm quite pleased with it now. Also kinda afraid to take it out, as I don't want to bang it up, but I'll get over it when the tree rats start raiding the bird feeders again.
Jauvesst, that looks very promising, sweet grips on that polished frame.
Casey
Some sweet looking grips Jauvesst nice polished frame too. :-* :-* :-*
im pretty much done polishing the rest of the 1377 now, LW barrel included but im having a bit of a issue with my extended hollow probe. gonna hold off messing around with it further until my package of parts arrives next week since all that stuff has to come off again anyway
WOW nice job. :-* :-* :-*
Nice polish and grips on that 1377, can't wait to see it finished :-* Rualert great job on that stock!
Thanks Ern, Looking forward to seeing that 1377 finished up. Looks great I'm sure it will be a great looking piece when you finish.
Casey
Quote from: Jauvesst on April 26, 2015, 03:20:37 AM
im pretty much done polishing the rest of the 1377 now, LW barrel included but im having a bit of a issue with my extended hollow probe. gonna hold off messing around with it further until my package of parts arrives next week since all that stuff has to come off again anyway
Sweet lookin shooter!!
Jauvesst, that is a great looking shooter. Love the polished look. :-* Where did you get those beautiful grips?
Quote from: BillK on April 26, 2015, 10:56:17 PM
Jauvesst, that is a great looking shooter. Love the polished look. :-* Where did you get those beautiful grips?
think ive mentioned it once or twice before but those are the 2240 grips i got from https://youtu.be/LCTAjDXHjf4 <-- that guy
they are quite expensive and im not entirely sure if he still accepts orders. but thats where i got em and yes they are indeed beautiful 8)
i really wish i had a old style grip frame laying around... what little shows of the black plastic under the cover of the grips are kinda bugging me
Quote from: Jauvesst on April 27, 2015, 02:02:55 AM
think ive mentioned it once or twice before but those are the 2240 grips i got from https://youtu.be/LCTAjDXHjf4 (https://youtu.be/LCTAjDXHjf4) <-- that guy
they are quite expensive and im not entirely sure if he still accepts orders. but thats where i got em and yes they are indeed beautiful 8)
i really wish i had a old style grip frame laying around... what little shows of the black plastic under the cover of the grips are kinda bugging me
Indeed it looks great :-*
Speaking of side covers, this guy makes them
http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic59806-45.html (http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic59806-45.html)
oooooh that is very nice! that definetly goes into my bookmarks for later spending sprees :-[
gotta take it easy on the airgun spending for a while as im saving up for a rem700 for the autumn hunting season and those arent all that cheap over here. neither is the paperwork or gun locker for that matter
Little bit more done...
Painted..semi gloss black lacquer.
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Rust bluing some of the steel parts...5 cycles into it...still a ways to go. Parts are ready for carding.
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Need to get some different stain for the wood and some oil to finish off..dark walnut I'm thinking.
While I was stripping the wood for the 100...figured I might as well do the 1400 at the same time. Stripped and one coat of Minwax "Early American".
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Al
Looks great Al!
Glen
nice work as always Al
ped
Looks like it is going to come out very nice ... :-*
Very nice. The grain of the wood pops. RC
Al, that stain is looking good, I tried the same color on my M-Rod, but mine was splotchy. Your is looking great, looking forward to see that restoration finished.
Casey
Mr. G the wood looks fantastic, what kind is that? Old school is really hard to beat 8)
Thanks fellas. :)
I've no idea what wood Crosman used on the 1400, but I like the look of it and think this one is going to turn out nicely.8)
I wish the 100 was similarly endowed with nice wood...appears to be fairly plain chunks of maple. :( Still ultimately correctable. ;)
Al
Some great looking work Al. :-* :-* :-*
My steel breech arrived today. So far I have installed an RP valve, a Boss Buddy transfer port, and heavier hammer spring. I also polished the trigger, and installed a polished empty 22 rim fire shell in the trigger spring. I installed my Daisy Electronic Point sight. Now to get the time to sight it in. :) :)
Your on the right path Bud send pics of those targets. :-* :-* :-*
T'will suffice...red mahogany...will do a couple coats of tung oil yet... :) (just mocked up)
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Some parts are done. Neutralized and ready for some paste wax.
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Still a few bits 'n bobs to go (missed bluing some screws), but starting to come together. 8)
Al
Hey Gippeto - You got a bluing set up? I'm impressed.
Parts are slow rust blued....have done it in the kitchen with house hold stuff...easy...but slloooww. ;)
Very nice results Al that mahogany stock is sweet.
ordered parts for my 2240 steel breech and stock
Looking good Al :-*
~98% finished...pumps and dumps with a healthy POP. :-*
Bolt and small screw to mount peep sight still not finished...so no shots fired....yet. ;) Flash washes out the color...stock is darker than the pictures show.
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Al
Very nice work!
Great job Gippeto :-*
That is some awesome work Al. :-* :-* :-*
Thanks fellas. :)
Sure have enjoyed going through this thing, and pretty happy with the results. Eagerly awaiting its completion and being able to SHOOT it! 8)
Al
She really turned out nice Al.
cracking refurb Al looks spot on
ped
Great job on that Al!
Nice Furniture!
Quote from: ejackyou on May 07, 2015, 12:00:25 AM
Nice Furniture!
;D
Double trestle table..it's actually mango wood with an "antique cherry" stain of some sort. ;) With all the leaves in 108" x 44"...just the thing if you need to seat a shwack of kids/grandkids ...and have an overly strong distaste for particle board. :)
Al
Quote from: Gippeto on May 07, 2015, 03:30:23 AM
;D
Double trestle table..it's actually mango wood with an "antique cherry" stain of some sort. ;) With all the leaves in 108" x 44"...just the thing if you need to seat a shwack of kids/grandkids ...and have an overly strong distaste for particle board. :)
Al
;D ;D ;D I presume, with the unseen finger slots, it makes the pumping real easy and pinch free. ;) :D ;D
all nice and shiny :-\ still need to go over the adjustments for the piston and trigger aswell as do some chrono work. but its in working condition now
oh and the front grip needs to be waxed to match the grips
Quote from: Jauvesst on May 11, 2015, 04:40:14 PM
all nice and shiny :-\ still need to go over the adjustments for the piston and trigger aswell as do some chrono work. but its in working condition now
oh and the front grip needs to be waxed to match the grips
Gorgous pistol :-\ :-\ :-\ Those shiny grips look incredible I love them :-* What wax did you use?
Real nice looking build. :-*
the grips arrived in that condition from the maker. its a combination of oil, hand rubbed beeswax+turpentine mix and finished with melted beeswax as far as i know
edit: you can see in certain spots where the wax has started to get worn down from use. if i understand correctly i can simply heat it up to fix that
thats a beauty Jauvesst
ped
Awesome. :-* :-* :-*
Nice copy of the Backpacker forearm :-*
Quote from: crossliner on May 12, 2015, 12:32:34 PM
Nice copy of the Backpacker forearm :-*
yeah i like it alot 8) its a good design and i suppose it doesnt hurt that its in walnut^^
did some chrono work last night and it seems to shoot fairly reliably around the 500 fps mark at 10 pumps with 10,34 grain JSB heavies. its not the pellet or the power i plan to shoot it at but im short on wadcutters in .177 right now to properly test with.
general idea was 400-450 fps with wadcutters on the lighter side for paperpunching at shorter ranges with as few pumps as possible
Quote from: Jauvesst on May 11, 2015, 04:40:14 PM
all nice and shiny :-\ still need to go over the adjustments for the piston and trigger aswell as do some chrono work. but its in working condition now
oh and the front grip needs to be waxed to match the grips
:-* WOW !! Sweet ! :-*
I am liking that pumparm where did you pick that up???
Quote from: targettgii on May 14, 2015, 05:49:20 AM
I am liking that pumparm where did you pick that up???
its from http://www.gmaccustomparts.com/ (http://www.gmaccustomparts.com/)
Always trying to make my first ever air pistol a better shooter, last night I decided to re-crown the barrel. I was never quite satisfied with its accuracy, and figured I had nothing to lose. You can imagine my surprise when shooting after the work last night, and again today, it's literally stacking pellets from 10 yds. with its stock barrel. I'm convinced that with a few after market parts and some trigger work, these are among the best values in the airgun market. Should've done this years ago. :-* RC
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Old Dog, New Tricks!
Lookin Good!
Good to hear and see RC! :-*
Not having a true 2240 for some time now (unless you count the one my wife has for scaring off the hawks ;-) I started to build one myself. Here is how far I have gotten. Valve is in there, but I am waiting on caps, hammer and spring from Davio. They are just fun, light and easy to shoot!
Rich
I put a new cardboard on my shootie box. And cleaned some of the BB's and pellets out of it. :P
A simple but efficient "shootie" box, I would like to copy that idea :-*
Bill :)
It is a 13"x13"X13" box. I stuffed it with towels, pieces of carpet and anything I could find. I have been shooting at this for almost 3 years. It works, but every now and then I have to change the face cardboard. :P :P
Many times a carpet store will give you old carpet samples if you ask. RC
Or even rubber mulch. Might be easier to separate out the pellets when cleaning it. Just shake it around and they should all be on the bottom.
Rubber mulch makes a great pellet trap. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: targettgii on May 17, 2015, 03:20:39 AM
Rubber mulch makes a great pellet trap. :-* :-* :-*
I hadn't thought of rubber mulch but it does make sense, Thanks :-*
Bill :)
Added a carbine stock to my 1322 and a steel breech, put on some scope rings and a spare sight from one of my break barrel rifles. Oh yeah and bought a 1377 to further mod down the road :P
Quote from: dynosore on May 17, 2015, 12:27:32 PM
Added a carbine stock to my 1322 and a steel breech, put on some scope rings and a spare sight from one of my break barrel rifles. Oh yeah and bought a 1377 to further mod down the road :P
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;D
Quote from: crossliner on May 17, 2015, 01:57:20 PM
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Lol ;D
I love that guy. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: BigErn on May 17, 2015, 03:03:50 PM
Lol ;D
Funny, I retired from the Marines after 20 years and that picture kind of startled me at first.... :P
Still factory fresh other then some pellets shot through it, will start with a steel breech and probably a carbine stock. Then a longer barrel and then..........
..then so on and so forth sir :-*
loving that pic senor
ped
He's a funny guy Herr Ped ;D
Installed my GMAC brass trigger on my 2260, with 1st stage and over-travel adjustment screws and a lighter spring that I got from a ball point pen.
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^^ nice!
Yes, that is a nice looking trigger! You just gave me an idea on what to do for the next hour or so. See if I have some set screws to do the trigger mod on my 2260 :-*
:-* I like that trigger!! Going to have to check on one for my Seridan Classic .
Thinking about getting a brass bolt and handle now just to go with the trigger!
Nice trigger Ed. :-* :-* :-*
Had to replace the safety spring that disappeared on my 1377..... whoops :o
Quote from: dynosore on May 26, 2015, 08:07:38 AM
Had to replace the safety spring that disappeared on my 1377..... whoops :o
Happen to pretty much all. Welcome to the world of modding your Crosman pistol. :-*
Made an extended buttpad for the QB even though I didn't need it but it sure looks cool 8) This took me a long while... did it all by hand. Used a sabre saw, Dremel, and sandpaper. What a pain but I'm glad I did :D. I also installed a larger bolt handle, what a difference :-* This scope and ring setup has to go!
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Nice work as usual there Big E. :-* :-* :-*
What a nice build. :-\
I like it Herr Ernesto :-*
looking good Ern
ped
Thanks boys :-* Thinking about redoing the QB stock another color, something light what do you guys think?
Another fine piece of work. :-* RC
Light is cool Ern :-*
My Grey Ghost 2240 is all Johnny Cash BLACK right now, but soon to be Grey! Last night I put a Disco site and black bolt and handle on it. No more Brass for thins one. When it does morph it will have mostly brushed aluminum and stainless (scuffed) with a scuffed barrel and grey tube and grip frame. The trigger will be aluminum with a really cool aluminum trigger shoe. Only shoe I've seen like it, but I am sure there is another floating around somewhere?
As she stands on Quickster-made kick-stand for pistols (which I love :-\ )[size=78%]![/size]
Big Ern,
Are you using Co2 or a HPA bottle on that QB??
Very nice Big Ern. :-* :-* :-*
Rich can't wait to see the finished project. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: arkmaker on June 01, 2015, 01:24:11 AM
Big Ern,
Are you using Co2 or a HPA bottle on that QB??
Co2 Rich.
Quote from: arkmaker on June 01, 2015, 01:19:32 AM
Light is cool Ern :-*
My Grey Ghost 2240 is all Johnny Cash BLACK right now, but soon to be Grey! Last night I put a Disco site and black bolt and handle on it. No more Brass for thins one. When it does morph it will have mostly brushed aluminum and stainless (scuffed) with a scuffed barrel and grey tube and grip frame. The trigger will be aluminum with a really cool aluminum trigger shoe. Only shoe I've seen like it, but I am sure there is another floating around somewhere?
As she stands on Quickster-made kick-stand for pistols (which I love :-\ )[size=78%]![/size]
Looking good Rich :-* Really like those Disco brakes.
Do it Ern, go light so I can compare to my QB stock. I need some food for thought.
Joe
Just installed Davio's brass extended bolt and handle to match the GMAC trigger (along with his Boss Buddy high flow TP). Also added the Disco rear tube plug and went back to the standard trigger spring. The ball point pen spring I tried out was too light and I was afraid of an AD. Need to find something in between.
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Nice work. :)
Quote from: BigErn on May 31, 2015, 12:59:35 AM
Made an extended buttpad for the QB even though I didn't need it but it sure looks cool 8) This took me a long while... did it all by hand. Used a sabre saw, Dremel, and sandpaper. What a pain but I'm glad I did :D. I also installed a larger bolt handle, what a difference :-* This scope and ring setup has to go!
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4537_zpsih0lsm8n.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4535_zpsglkwufcv.jpg)
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That is ALL very nice work! Great job! :)
Thanks Davio :-* Went to shoot the QB after several months and Bam! All the air leaks out of the transfer port area >:( Any ideas? I'm thinking it's the valve seals but not sure. I guess I will be tearing this one apart for the first time to see if I can figure out where it is leaking from... Crap :(
Sounds like the valve stem isn't sealing. Try some oil and a few dry fires. Might just be a littlle dirty.
Quote from: bgmcgee on June 06, 2015, 05:35:52 PM
Sounds like the valve stem isn't sealing. Try some oil and a few dry fires. Might just be a littlle dirty.
Thanks bg, I will have to try that. The bad part is that I only have a 4oz tank now for the QB and I have to go on a mission to get to the place to fill it up again. I hope it has enough Co2 to run these tests. Bummer... I was really looking forward to shooting it since it's been a while. If I have time tonight I'll give it a shot :-*
Pull the tank and dry fire without it on if that's possible.
Quote from: bgmcgee on June 06, 2015, 08:18:32 PM
Pull the tank and dry fire without it on if that's possible.
Worked like a charm!!! Dry fired it a bunch of times, put the tank on and it leaked just a little tiny bit so I took the stock off and noticed a screw that was kinda loose just under the area where the valve and transfer port is. I tightened the screw and I'm back in business. Used up about half the 4oz tank testing it but it was worth it. Thanks again :-* :-* :-*
I just tore down both my 1322 and 1377 and cleaned them and tweaked the FTPs. Both are now showing improved performance fortunately.
Quote from: BigErn on June 07, 2015, 01:57:42 AM
Worked like a charm!!! Dry fired it a bunch of times, put the tank on and it leaked just a little tiny bit so I took the stock off and noticed a screw that was kinda loose just under the area where the valve and transfer port is. I tightened the screw and I'm back in business. Used up about half the 4oz tank testing it but it was worth it. Thanks again :-* :-* :-*
Cool deal. :-*
changed one of the seals in my marauders reservoir that was causing a small leak. it passed the bubble test but only time will tell if it holds pressure properly again
had the scope off so gotta get around to sighting it back in later
Had a Hogue slip-on grip I'd bought for another pistol that I didn't like the fit on. Cut the finger grooves off and, using contact cement, attached to my Tempest. Might look strange, but feels great and helps with grip consistency. RC
(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd35/rcolbourne/grip_zpsdhdr6zz3.jpg) (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/rcolbourne/media/grip_zpsdhdr6zz3.jpg.html)
Looks good to me RC :-*
Just finished my Renegade stock for the QB79. That was quite a bit of work :D This was by far my most challenging bedliner project that's for sure. Can't wait to get a new scope now :-\
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4586_zpsdmfhjmgx.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4587_zpsktmbfinn.jpg)
Looks great, and quite unusual. :-* RC
Nice use of negative space there on that stock.
Dang Ern. That is pretty sweet.
Thanks guys! This was the QB stock I ruined last week. I almost threw it away... It was going great until I decided to do the two holes in the front. I should have done them much smaller than what I did. The bigger holes went through the top on the stock, you can see in the second pic. I drilled the top of the holes to make them look like they came like that. I learned from my body shop teacher that if you can't make it perfect, make it smooth :D I also should have sanded the inside of the holes better, I thought the bedliner would hide all the deffects, I was wrong ;D Learned a few things on this one :-*
Nice work all around guys!! :-* :-*
and Ern, if you want to take on a M-rod stock, I have one screaming for a little customization and bedliner work ???
I just got my new tube plug back from the machine shop. I had him extend the back by 2", and drill and tap a 1/2'" hole in the back. I have a piece of 1/2" diameter rod threaded on one end, which screws into the tube plug. I am going to weld a piece of flat stock on it for a butt plate. My intent is to have a take down 1322 rifle. When my son comes by I will have him post pictures. :)
Yep, the bug has defiantly bit this boy. ;D ;D ;D
Sounds like fun Bud.
I recently installed a solid hammer in my 2400kt and an extended bolt and bluefork pump pivot in my 1377. Turned the 2400kt back into a carbine and swapped scopes with the 1377 which is back in pistol form. Both guns are nicely accurate with little left to do on either.........which of course means I need another project. An iron sighted 2240 with the 10" LW barrel for indoor target shooting is one direction.
Finished putting together the QB "Renegade" stock. I think it came out pretty cool considering I was going to toss it away :) Just wish I would have sanded the inside of the holes better >:(
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4593_zpsgjoa98fg.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4594_zpsullufftv.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4595_zpsyud0czo1.jpg)
Pretty darn cool Big E. :-*
Does look really good. :-*
looks good Ern
ped
Back when I thought I could thread a piece of alum tube for a Prod shroud project I got some tube. Found out that by using O-rings held in place by tape on both sides I could keep the tube centered on the barrel and held firmly in place. I had previously got an LDC from Anthony Storey in Ind. that was squared instead of tapered. Luckily they matched up.
The 1701 isn't loud but, I do need quiet in my backyard and this does the trick. IMO it gives a "finished" look to the 1701.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/1701P/100_09041.jpg)
Bill that is great and you did an awesome job. :-* :-* :-*
Carl
Nice work Bill. Thats one good looking pistol. :-* :-*
That's a nice solution with a really nice fit - well done :-*
Nice build. Now, lets see some holes in the target. :-*
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/targets/100_08691.jpg)
Man, those are some really nice holes. 9-16??? it says on the target.(http://crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/pics/Brutuz/wtf.gif)
Nice build Bill. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: mudduck48 on March 07, 2016, 04:06:07 AM
Man, those are some really nice holes. 9-16??? it says on the target.(http://crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/pics/Brutuz/wtf.gif)
Ya, I Ducked up by a year. I shot that in Sept. - 15. :-[
Built a .22 cal. PCP carbine today. Its got a 14 inch barrel with a moded 2240 valve . will post some picks of it Tue. Also mocked up a 2250 PCP pistol ,waiting on parts to finish it up also!! Parts Parts not here when you want them to be !! >:( >:( >:( >:( Both of these will be for sale when finished on our for sale thread! Pics will be in Gallery thread for they hit the foe sale thread !
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on March 08, 2016, 12:28:37 AM
Parts Parts not here when you want them to be !! >:( >:( >:( >:(
Hey TH, start rolling yer own...that will take longer than waiting for the parts to arrive ;D ;D
Meanwhile, back at "the ranch" ....I took some Delrin tube stock and made a longer RVA spacer:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/2550%20Gas%20Gun/rvaspacer1_zpste2uhkee.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/2550%20Gas%20Gun/rvaspacer1_zpste2uhkee.jpg.html)
It went in this gun...the 2550:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/2550%20Gas%20Gun/2550_zpsbsbwgqsx.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/2550%20Gas%20Gun/2550_zpsbsbwgqsx.jpg.html)
Getting 2 more good shots from a 12 gram cart...but more importantly, the shot strings are high in the middle and low on the ends :-*
;D ;D Hey TH, start rolling yer own...that will take longer than waiting for the parts to arrive ;D ;D
WyoMan I've rolled a few back in the day !! ;)
I just ended up picking up an old American classic 1377. Brass valve and the old slide cover with cocking knob on the back. Replaced the valve with the one out of my new 1322 ( the 1322 got a flat top) and replaced it with the matching pump cup. Lubed and threw it back together. Not bad for 5$ yard sale gun. Once I get the BNM breech and shroud for the 1322 I will use the plastic breech and barrel for the 1377 and have 2 .22 pistols. The new (old one ) will be for my son.
Polished up the brass knob I got from quickster and put it on and installed the "Arky-pod" on the 2260 pistol. Gotta polish up that grip frame :-[
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4944_zpss8yjvxua.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4949_zpsgifyyn1c.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4959_zpsup4tputn.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN4955_zpssfwvwaki.jpg)
WOW! The chrome 2240 on steroids. Nice build. :-* :-*
BigErn, you still got the class buddy. Lookin' mighty good. :-* :-* :-*
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:50 PM
BigErn, you still got the class buddy. Lookin' mighty good. :-* :-* :-*
Carl
x2 Great looking build Big E.
Another quality build Big E. :-* :-* I like how you adopted the Arky-Pod name.
Love it :-X
Lookin good Big E. :-* :-* :-*
looks good Ern
N.I.C.E. :-* :-* :-\
Thanks guys! No new build here though, that actually was my last "Gauntlet" entry :D In case anyone is wondering, it's not chromed, that's all polished metal. All polished parts still look like the day I did it except for the grip frame >:( That needs attention ALL the time ;D
I went ahead and polished up all the brass while I had it out :)
Ern, that looks great....Better & better. :-*
Last fall I re-polished a grip frame as they don't stay polished as you had noted some time ago. After polishing & cleaning I used Krylon Clear Gloss to paint it. Appx. 6 mos. now without too much use and it still looks as shinny as when it was first polished. Will see how it holds up through a summer of shooting.
Very nice work.
BigErn,
Highest level of craftsmanship!! Air gun art.
Quote from: BigErn on March 26, 2016, 02:36:02 PM
Thanks guys! No new build here though, that actually was my last "Gauntlet" entry :D In case anyone is wondering, it's not chromed, that's all polished metal. All polished parts still look like the day I did it except for the grip frame >:( That needs attention ALL the time ;D
I went ahead and polished up all the brass while I had it out :)
Pure class sir :-*
Does scratching your head thinking how you'll design and build a part count? If so, I ''worked'' 2 hours today thinking about a two-stage piston for my 1377 8).
Quote from: airmec on March 28, 2016, 01:40:56 AM
Does scratching your head thinking how you'll design and build a part count? If so, I ''worked'' 2 hours today thinking about a two-stage piston for my 1377 8).
I'm curious. Scratching my head on that now. ???
Quote from: airmec on March 28, 2016, 01:40:56 AM
Does scratching your head thinking how you'll design and build a part count? If so, I ''worked'' 2 hours today thinking about a two-stage piston for my 1377 8).
Don't remember where I got this but it might give you something else to think about.
Carl
Quote from: airmec on March 28, 2016, 01:40:56 AM
Does scratching your head thinking how you'll design and build a part count? If so, I ''worked'' 2 hours today thinking about a two-stage piston for my 1377 8) .
It's the thought that counts. :)
Quote from: quickster47 on March 28, 2016, 02:39:30 AM
Don't remember where I got this but it might give you something else to think about.
Carl
Probably got that here: http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic71783.html (http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic71783.html)
;)
Quote from: airmec on March 28, 2016, 05:02:59 PM
Probably got that here: http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic71783.html (http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic71783.html)
;)
That would be it. Not sure how practical it would be but it sure is an interesting idea.
Carl
Not too long back I received a couple of pieces of aluminum tube and during the last week or so I made a 2240 Lite tube from one of the pieces. I had actually bought a 13/16x28 tpi tap a year ago in anticipation of making my own tube but never got around to using it till this past weekend. And while the alloy tube weighs in at 57 g, my cut down steel main tube (weighing 122.3 g) is still more sexy with the cut outs so you can see the insides. I may eventually try putting the slots in the alloy tube one of these days.
I'll be installing the new tube in the next few days and will have another weigh in for my 2240 Lite.
Carl
Now that aluminum tube is going to really lighten the 2240 lite!
Glen
Quote from: tinker on March 31, 2016, 12:00:04 PM
Now that aluminum tube is going to really lighten the 2240 lite!
Glen
I also have a piece of carbon fiber tube that I am turning into a main tube. The carbon fiber is a little bit of a challenge as it is not thick enough to support tapping for the breech screws, the front trigger frame screw as well as the gas cap.
Carl
The "two-stage" 13xx" pump mentioned above by airmec is very interesting. Two things immediately come to mind; the spring has to be heavy enough to hold the inner piston back until the tube is sealed during all strokes, and the pump arm has to extend farther.
If interest continues, perhaps this should be moved to its own topic. If I ever get my lathe, this will be something relatively easy to machine.
Carl, How in the world did you hold the alum tube to thread it. ??? I gave up on threading some tube because I thought I would dent or bend it trying to hold it in place while threading.
Quote from: BillK on March 31, 2016, 08:06:32 PM
Carl, How in the world did you hold the alum tube to thread it. ??? I gave up on threading some tube because I thought I would dent or bend it trying to hold it in place while threading.
What I did, since I only have a 3" lathe - I think that is the correct size, was mount that huge 13/16x28 tpi tap in my 3-jaw chuck, put my free floating centering piece in the tail stock and then put the tube in between the two. Then started slowly, very, very slowly, working the tube up on the tap by turning the 3-jaw chuck by hand and using lots and lots of lubricating fluid. First one took me about three hours, but the second one only two about an hour as I greatly improved my process and took advantage of my previous experience.
Carl
I messed with my 1377 trigger a bit. Pulled the spring out of the handle, wandered off to a good hardware store and went through their spring collection. Found a spring of the same diameter, approximately the same length with about half the spring rate, much softer. Trigger is not a "hair" trigger but much lighter than stock. I like it.
Quote from: CraigH on March 31, 2016, 04:59:56 PM
The "two-stage" 13xx" pump mentioned above by airmec is very interesting. Two things immediately come to mind; the spring has to be heavy enough to hold the inner piston back until the tube is sealed during all strokes, and the pump arm has to extend farther.
If interest continues, perhaps this should be moved to its own topic. If I ever get my lathe, this will be something relatively easy to machine.
Exactly!...good call. I don't think the spring would be much of a challenge but modifying the linkage so the pump can take a "full gulp" puts this into really custom territory (as well as the two-stage piston). I think it's a good idea. The first stage pump effort should stay pretty consistent. The second stage effort will build with the valve pressure but you've got the huge mechanical advantage near the end.
Hope someone can try this :-*
Quote from: WyoMan on April 01, 2016, 03:04:40 AM
Hope someone can try this :-*
WyoMan, you were seriously into pumpers and experimenting with them so this should be right up your alley.
Go ahead, give it a go. :-*
Carl
I was, Carl...but sitting on the sidelines now. There are better two-stage systems out there...e.g. Alecto. It compresses air on the opening and closing of the pump lever. Huge swept volume and about 10 fpe in four pumps (in .22). Not bad for a pistol.
It's much easier to pop in a C02 cart and get more than that :) ...still like the pump guns though :-*
Quote from: WyoMan on April 01, 2016, 05:53:53 AM
I was, Carl...but sitting on the sidelines now. There are better two-stage systems out there...e.g. Alecto. It compresses air on the opening and closing of the pump lever. Huge swept volume and about 10 fpe in four pumps (in .22). Not bad for a pistol.
It's much easier to pop in a C02 cart and get more than that :) ...still like the pump guns though :-*
Have to agree with you on those Webley Alecto pistols. I've had a couple of them and they are impressive shooters.
Also, I more so agree with you on the ease of CO2. Always been a fan of that Powerlet and its super convenience.
Carl
Just installed a front barrel band from Davio and 1701p trigger assy on my 1377. No slop in pump arm and nice trigger now
Ken
Quote from: Ken on April 02, 2016, 12:33:11 AM
Just installed a front barrel band from Davio and 1701p trigger assy on my 1377. No slop in pump arm and nice trigger now
Ken
What hammer did you use with the 1701P trigger?
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on April 02, 2016, 12:41:12 AM
What hammer did you use with the 1701P trigger?
Carl
Got the hammer from Davio also. Might try the jb-weld on the hammer that I removed for the next one.
Ken
I finished re-mounting my 3x scope.
Colonel Cooper would be proud, don't you think?
Yes, and easily to load pellets. What is the eye relief on that scope?
Wow, that scope must have some serious eye relief. Unless, of course, it is a true pistol scope.
Carl
Eye relief is 12 inches. It's an NC Star Pistolero on a Hawke HM17017 adapter.
It's not really a pistol scope more of a scout scope..
Long as it gets the job done is what counts. :-*
Carl
I have been cloning a Crosman 180 from available parts. I have a lot of stock work left, but I did get to shoot it. :)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/180%20clone/100_09141.jpg)
Nice looking rifle. 8)
Quote from: BillK on April 09, 2016, 02:14:21 AM
I have been cloning a Crosman 180 from available parts. I have a lot of stock work left, but I did get to shoot it. :)
I have a 180 also, what is that on the end of the barrel, and where may I get one ?
as is , it has a little two much bark coming from mine.
Is that the type 3 trigger ?
What I have is a 2250 tube w/a 2260 trigger & 16" Crosman barrel w/a TKO & sight mounted on it. Sights are Williams & breech is Bakers, rear cocking is a ssp hammer unit. I had an old 2260 stock I cut down to appx. a 180 size to fit the 2250 configuration.
I think of it as a 180 clone.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/180%20clone/100_09141.jpg)
That is a sweet llooking build Bill. :-* :-* :-*
Nice build! :-* Rather similar to what I have suggested to Crosman as a new model in th 22XX line.
Very nice build!
Glen
:-* :-* :-*
That is just awesome Bill!
:-* Sweet build , Bill :-*
Been working on this for a week or so ! 2250 XL PCP :) 10 inch .22 cal barrel with costom work done on the valve,BSA Conterder red/green aim point. Shooting Crosman HPs avg. 543.7 fps
Nice, you had better save some of your builds for the Gallant. :-*
Quote from: mudduck48 on April 10, 2016, 02:35:17 AM
Nice, you had better save some of your builds for the Gallant. :-*
What Gallant ?? ??? ??? ???
Sorry, me no, no how to spell. Gauntlet. Carl is having another gauntlet build challenge. :P
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,16377.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,16377.0.html)
:-* Thanks Mr. Duck . :-*
This week I made a 1377 pump arm pin removal and installation tool, and I started the build of a two-stage piston for that SSP 1377. Outer piston in brass, and inner piston in SS. 8)
Anxious to see how your two stage piston progresses. Do keep us posted. :)
Carl
Superb! :-* Looking forward to the next report. I have been looking at the two-stage pump drawing every few days. Got some aluminum stock yesterday (no appropriate brass available there) and plan on a first mock-up just for practice and fitment during the snow storm this weekend. Can you say what spring you are using?
And a nice press, too!
I really like that pump arm pin remover. Great idea.
Quote from: airmec on April 15, 2016, 07:35:15 AM
This week I made a 1377 pump arm pin removal and installation tool, and I started the build of a two-stage piston for that SSP 1377. Outer piston in brass, and inner piston in SS. 8)
I like it. Never did like beating on my pistol to get the roll pin out. :-*
Thanks for the nice comments, gents :).
@ quickster47: There should be some interesting developments real soon, tomorrow I'm gonna get a mini-lathe, so no more need to be at school to work on my parts! 8)
@ CraigH: The spring came from an old Crosman Black Venom plastic pistol, it's 0.451'' OD, with a 0.048'' wire diam., and about 5 7/16'' in length.
@ mudduck48: I broke a plastic barrel band on my M4-177 because of the pounding on the pivot pin >:( . Never again :-*.
The pin press has a 2'' opening, the swivelling push pin is 1 1/8'' in length, with an additional 1/4'' length that goes in the screw. I guess it could be made out of an inexpensive C-clamp. Mine was a class project, adapted to my airgunner's needs ;) .
Cheers all!
I got tired of using an arbor press to tear down the PC77, so I replaced the pump arm pins with bolts and Davio's pivot pin can be pulled out with a long 4/40 bolt and sleeve.
I have a brass trigger on the 2260 trigger group and wanted a safety to match. So, I got a brass rod from Onlinemetals and used a couple of files & drill press to shape the rod. Sorta fugly but the worst parts don't show when installed. Works fine.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/180%20clone/100_09271.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/180%20clone/100_09161_1.jpg)
Yes, it does look good installed, Good job. :-*
Bill you did a good job. And since I also have a 2260 I might do the same and use my lather and iffn I make one I might make an extra and send it your way.
Carl
That came out great Bill.
nice looking pin pusher
those brass safeties can be a pig to make even in a lathe Bill (snapped a couple)so nice work
Man that brass trigger and safety looks GREAT :-*
Sets the wood up and looks tone a perfect match.
Nice work Bill. :-*
Thanks for the kind words guys. I forgot to mention it was a PIA which I won't be doing again. ;)
Quote from: BillK on April 27, 2016, 04:09:50 AM
Thanks for the kind words guys. I forgot to mention it was a PIA which I won't be doing again. ;)
Sure...Sure you won't ;D
Looks great Bill! Impressive for ordinary tools 8)
That brass safety is great looking. Excellent work!
Glen
That is a nice looking safety good job. :-* :-* :-*
I finally got around to installing one of those LED lights that use the rechargeable 18650 LI-ION battery.
Wow! At lot of light for $15.00... :-*
Quote from: oldgearhead on May 07, 2016, 11:54:30 PM
I finally got around to installing one of those LED lights that use the rechargeable 18650 LI-ION battery.
Wow! At lot of light for $15.00... :-*
Yep, those lights are pretty awesome and put out some serious light for their physical size.
Carl
Been down in my shop all day !! I got another one of Don Carthran's valves for my .22 cal. Disco ,The one I had done in the Cerakote BURNT BRONZE ! Got it all done and run it through the crony and its kicking 1054 fps !! Then I got to lookin around and built me a 2260 PCP pistol . (pics. coming at a later date plus all the data too! ) Haven't cronyed it yet! After all that work I sat down ther and shot ALL my PCP's and and my favorite break barrel ! My BENJAMIN TITAN NP ! :) :)
All in all I had a GREAT day today!! ;) ;)
Just made a big knob (0.605'' OD, 0.545'' length) extended probe bolt in SS for a fellow CAF member. Beside is a GMAC hollow probe bolt for comparison. I hope he likes it! 8)
Greetings
Quote from: airmec on May 14, 2016, 12:24:35 AM
Just made a big knob (0.605'' OD, 0.545'' length) extended probe bolt in SS for a fellow CAF member. Beside is a GMAC hollow probe bolt for comparison. I hope he likes it! 8)
Greetings
;) If he don't like just send it to me , I'll like it ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
airmec your work looks good.
Carl
Well done, looks excellent! :-*
Thank gents :). First ever part I made with my newly bought (and at last repaired!) mini-lathe. Won't be the last though 8).
Still haven't heard of my fellow ???.
That's a good looking bolt handle. :-*
I made a Stock Adapter (for 13XX tube size) and Rod-Type Stock. Wood butt of the lowest quality product (2X2 pine) in the local BB. Hickory stained - had considered black lacquer which may yet be the butt finish. The rod is 1/2 aluminum and threaded to the adapter - 3/8"-24 tpi about 3/4" of threads.
Craig, that looks great man. You did an excellent job on the adapter and stock.
Carl
Nice work Craig. :-*. I like that a lot.
Nice work guys. :-* :-* :-*
I like the shape of the stock, real nice! :-* What LOP do you get with that set-up, Craig?
airmec,
I set it as close to the Crosman shoulder stock as I could since that was available on a 2240. And at 16", trigger to butt, sounds long, but feels right to me - I'm average height at 6' 0", sleeve length about 34" or 35". I'll have to say that 16" measurement surprised me.
Thanks for all comments. :)
Thanks for the info, Craig :). I'm also 6' tall, so that would suits me too. Aaaaaaargh, another project! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
DANG! You guys are killing me. I need those parts. Forget Trophyhunter. :o
Great idea and job on that Craig. :-*
Airmec, Nice work on the handle & bolt. That's a talent.
CraigH. Now that looks like a real nice light stock. Great wood work & machining.
Very very nivework Craig :-* :-*
Very cool stuff guys 8) :-*
Tried my hand at making some .30 cal. 70 gr. bullets for my .30 cal. today they shoot great and if I do say so myself , they look dang good too ! ;D ;D ;D
Nice work!! :-* Machining <-- Casting & Forging <-- Lastly (or is that firstly) mining and smelting to gain complete mastery over metal. :D
Quote from: BillK on May 16, 2016, 12:14:06 AM
Airmec, Nice work on the handle & bolt. That's a talent.
Thanks Bill :).
TrophyHunter, yeah they do look good :-*. Did you make your mould, or bought one?
Quote from: CraigH on May 16, 2016, 11:06:26 PM
Nice work!! :-* Machining <-- Casting & Forging <-- Lastly (or is that firstly) mining and smelting to gain complete mastery over metal. :D
Thanks Craig , Lee mold and old fishing weights !!
BTW, just finished the main machining work on my bronze-aluminium alloy breech. Still have to make a rear plug, a bolt and some rear sight :).
Quote from: airmec on May 16, 2016, 11:21:19 PM
BTW, just finished the main machining work on my bronze-aluminium alloy breech. Still have to make a rear plug, a bolt and some rear sight :).
:) WOW !!! that looks great ! :-* :-*
Sweet airmec and trophy! :-* :-* :-* :-*
airmec,
Looks to be a repeater breech, yes? Very nice, and interesting metal selection. :-* :-*
TH49 those lead pills look great and you did a fine job casting the lot.
An excellent job of finally making some good use of those surplus sinkers which never seem to bring home anything edible. ;D
Carl
airmec, very nice work on that breech. Looks tall, is it perhaps a repeater?
Carl
Quote from: CraigH on May 17, 2016, 12:24:53 AM
airmec,
Looks to be a repeater breech, yes? Very nice, and interesting metal selection. :-* :-*
Unfortunately no, it's not a repeater :(. I'm not that good yet ;D. But yes, it's a high rise breech, and it should allow me to free-float the barrel. It'll be a strong point in my Gauntlet build ;).
A machinist friend of mine gave me some big bars of that material before moving out of town, they were used as sliders on a big automated machine of some sort he dismantled. Very nice once polished, and very resistant too, yet easy to machine.
And thanks for the nice comments, guys, very appreciated :).
Yeah airmac, very nice.
Hey Trophyhunter, where are my .30 samples? ;)
Quote from: Monkeydad1969 on May 17, 2016, 02:37:59 AM
Yeah airmac, very nice.
Hey Trophyhunter, where are my .30 samples? ;)
When I cast the next ones I'll send you 2 or 3 ! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: oldgearhead on May 07, 2016, 11:54:30 PM
I finally got around to installing one of those LED lights that use the rechargeable 18650 LI-ION battery.
Wow! At lot of light for $15.00... :-*
What light is this?
Quote from: CraigH on May 14, 2016, 02:10:03 AM
I made a Stock Adapter (for 13XX tube size) and Rod-Type Stock. Wood butt of the lowest quality product (2X2 pine) in the local BB. Hickory stained - had considered black lacquer which may yet be the butt finish. The rod is 1/2 aluminum and threaded to the adapter - 3/8"-24 tpi about 3/4" of threads.
This is awesome :-\ :-\ :-\
some nice looking slugs trophy and a nice looking breech airmec
Excellent work guys. :-* :-* :-*
:) Thanks !! :)
Thanks gents! :)
Tried my hand at making a hollow probe bolt, again in SS, for re-converting my 2250B to .22 cal. Just a prototype, but it works real good :) . I'll eventually fit a bigger O-ring on it, but it's not leaking with that one.
Very nice work airmec I love that bolt handle is that the standard thread for crosman bolts. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: targettgii on May 20, 2016, 04:33:20 AM
Very nice work airmec I love that bolt handle is that the standard thread for crosman bolts. :-* :-* :-*
Thanks targetgii!
Yup, standard thread and stem size, it does fit the Crosman steel and plastic breeches :) .
Very nice, airmec. Now when can we expect those to go into production and for the CAPOF member price? ;)
Joe
airmec,
Excellent! :-*
Notwithstanding Bob R., I continue to prefer the hollow probe. How did you clock in the probe hole, or did you do it like me and mark it in the breech?
Quote from: Monkeydad1969 on May 20, 2016, 06:31:31 AM
Very nice, airmec. Now when can we expect those to go into production and for the CAPOF member price? ;)
Joe
Hmmm, didn't expect that :) .
I think I'll run a small batch in the coming week, to get some feedback. I could also do custom work according to your specs, I already did it for a fellow on the CAF. Check the ''For Sale'' section in the coming weeks ;) .
Great work airmec. :-* :-*
Here's a thought and suggestion, how about a few pieces of a flo-through bolt that works for left hand cocking breechs.
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on May 20, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
Great work airmec. :-* :-*
Here's a thought and suggestion, how about a few pieces of a flo-through bolt that works for left hand cocking breechs.
Carl
I have looked all over & can't find any. I'd buy a couple of those.
Quote from: BillK on May 20, 2016, 02:50:08 PM
I have looked all over & can't find any. I'd buy a couple of those.
You and me both Mister Bill. Odd that no one has offered that option yet.
Carl
Nice probe and handle airmec. :-* I'd be 3rd in line for a hollow left hand probe.
Nice work. 8)
Quote from: airmec on May 20, 2016, 01:26:58 PM
Hmmm, didn't expect that :) .
I think I'll run a small batch in the coming week, to get some feedback. I could also do custom work according to your specs, I already did it for a fellow on the CAF. Check the ''For Sale'' section in the coming weeks ;) .
It came out real nice, I don't think you will have a problem selling a few ... :-*
Quote from: CraigH on May 20, 2016, 01:20:21 PM
airmec,
Excellent! :-*
Notwithstanding Bob R., I continue to prefer the hollow probe. How did you clock in the probe hole, or did you do it like me and mark it in the breech?
Thanks Craig :).
I marked it in the breech, you can see it's well aligned with the port hole.
Well everyone jumped all over getting one of these nice looking, very functional bolts. But I ASKED FIRST SO I GET FIRST DIBS AND I NEED 2!
The Monkey has spoken. ;)
Joe
Well since everybody else wants one I don't want to be left out. :D :D :D :)
Nobody will be left out :) :) :) .
Quote from: Monkeydad1969 on May 21, 2016, 04:32:22 AM
Well everyone jumped all over getting one of these nice looking, very functional bolts. But I ASKED FIRST SO I GET FIRST DIBS AND I NEED 2!
The Monkey has spoken. ;)
Joe
Ha, not our monkey and not our circus!!! ;D ;D
Carl
Quote from: beejwest on May 17, 2016, 03:08:54 AM
What light is this?
This one:
www.ebay.com/itm/121897995128?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121897995128?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Quote from: airmec on May 21, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
Nobody will be left out :) :) :) .
Cool :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: quickster47 on May 20, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
Great work airmec. :-* :-*
Here's a thought and suggestion, how about a few pieces of a flo-through bolt that works for left hand cocking breechs.
Carl
Will do ;)
Finally got my walnut grips for my 1377 and 2240! Stuck em on the 1377 and then dremeled out a breech I had lying around to make a lefty plastic breech for it. Drilled out my peep and epoxied a picture nail to the front sight which I painted white. Made it way more accurate! This was the 1377 I promised myself I was leaving stock! Hahahahaah yea right...
Nice wood for that one for sure. ;)
I thought so! Looked so good on ebay I had to buy some for both my pistols! Now I wish someone would make the 1399 stocks in wood like Crosman used to...
Very nice! :-* I remember those wood stocks on the Crosman Custom Shop.
Nice job :-* :-*
beejwest those grips look excellent and a great job you did on the breech. :-* :-* :-*
Carl
Thanks! Just took my time with a dremel and cutoff wheel. Then switched to a tapered grinding stone for finishing. Should have done it sooner!
That's great looking wood on your gun. Also love the breech. You got my wheels turning.
What I'm here for! :-*
Quote from: quickster47 on May 21, 2016, 01:20:51 PM
Ha, not our monkey and not our circus!!! ;D ;D
Carl
I'll get you Carl, and your little dog too. (Flying monkeys fly into distance.)
;D
Very nice wood parts, beejwest :-* :-* :-*. Guess you don't pinch your fingers at pumping with that cool forearm :) . Can't wait to have some on my 1377!
And nice conversion on the breech :-* . Have you tried #400 and #600 wet or dry sandpaper for removing scratches? Does a good job ;)
beejwest meant to ask you how stable or structurally strong does the plastic breech appear now that you have opened up the other side? If I remember correctly 1377x converted one of his just like yours a couple of years back.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9042.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,9042.0.html)
I still like it very much and am thinking again about modding one of mine.
Carl
I haven't noticed any real decrease in structural itegrity! I cut clear throught the big piece of breech to get the bolt to go down far enough. The smaller piece that snaps in was ground down to match the factory side. Once put together it seems to regain its rigidity. I thought about epoxying the small piece in once I had installed the bolt, but I didn't want to lock in my bolt until I knew or not whether it was strong enough without epoxy. Seems to be fine for me! :-*
I believe 1377x was who I got the idea from on that link!
No more forearm finger pinches with the walnut forearm. Way easier to get leverage to pump and the target style grip on the rear gives your thumb some purchase too when pumping. All together, way better than stock, although it won't fit in my holster anymore :( guess I'll have to mod that too!
I'll work the scratches with 600 grit! Thanks for the heads up on that!
IIRC I think that I posted pics as well. Didn't se the initial post but I believe you are talking about making the stock breech left hand?? If so I still have mine and it is pretty sturdy for having that much material removed. The bot locked down fine without having to cut all the way down
Another thing to consider is putting a set screw above the transfer port. It keeps the barrel from rolling ans pushes the barrel down on the tp for a better seal
Quote from: 1377x on May 23, 2016, 11:46:07 PM
Another thing to consider is putting a set screw above the transfer port. It keeps the barrel from rolling ans pushes the barrel down on the tp for a better seal.
Are you talking about threading the plastic breech above the transfer port so that the set screw would be pushing against the barrel?
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on May 24, 2016, 12:28:01 AM
Are you talking about threading the plastic breech above the transfer port so that the set screw would be pushing against the barrel?
Carl
yep. Don't even need a tap. I used a drill and the set screw. It threaded itself. Very sturdy considering what you're working with
This should be a new "first mod". I think I will do this on one of my new unopened 2240's after checking velocity without the screw first. It is remarkable to some degree that these 13XXs and 22XXs work as well as they do given the simplicity of design and relatively coarse construction.
Great diagram Mr. Quickster
Skip
Good idea on the set screw on the plastic breech!
1377x yup we were talking about you taking the stock breech to lefty. I copied and it worked fantastic.
$64.97 and a spankin' new 2240 and two tins of CPHP's are enroute so I can start my stubby!! Amazon has a $10 off Crosman coupon right now, that plus prime and it's a good time to buy!
Quote from: beejwest on May 24, 2016, 11:07:16 PM
$64.97 and a spankin' new 2240 and two tins of CPHP's are enroute so I can start my stubby!! Amazon has a $10 off Crosman coupon right now, that plus prime and it's a good time to buy!
I paid more for 2240 parts from Crosman :-[ I could have got a whole new 2240 ;D
But, would you have used all of the stock parts? ???
No, but the parts bin always needs refreshment from time to time!
FedEx showed up at 10AM! Way earlier than UPS does here! :) Had to put a couple carts through the new bone stock 2240 before I take it all apart to start the stubby. Man I forgot how LOUD those things were without.....well.....with...ah well, they're loud! Now to the shop!
I spent 30 wasted mins looking for the top seal of my 2240 port( thinking ive dropped it from the bench ) only to discover they dont have any :-X :-X
It seems weird that its a metal to metal connection..ive ordered some GMA top seals for next time its in bits
I've heard the .22 bolt orings fit snuggly on the top of the TP and help nicely! You can buy a whole pack on amazon for about $3.
Just did a barrel re-crown for someone and thought I better do one for my Gauntlet entry at the same time. I like this type of crown which has a c-bore and then an 11 degree chamfer on the bore. Same as on my Browning Challenger II.
Pics suck, but you can get the idea.
Nice Rich. Looks like a good and well protected crown. :-*
Good work Rich. What exactly is the c-bore and is there a particular process used for doing it?
Carl
Counter bore is just a recess that keeps the crown a little farther away from being damaged from an errant bump :D
I used a carbide boring bar and finished off the crown with stones and 900 grit emery clothe.
Rich
Quote from: arkmaker on June 01, 2016, 04:52:37 PM
Counter bore is just a recess that keeps the crown a little farther away from being damaged from an errant bump :D
I used a carbide boring bar and finished off the crown with stones and 900 grit emery clothe.
Rich
Ah ha, that makes perfect sense now. Thanks for the enlightenment. :-*
Carl
Well I happened to have a tomato stake left over, so..
Quote from: oldgearhead on June 01, 2016, 07:00:35 PM
Well I happened to have a tomato stake left over, so..
Excellent repurposing! :-* :-*
Carl
Installed a red dot sight to 3 of my airguns since I have a cataract removal set up in a week and it's in my dominate eye. So I suppose everything will look differently early next week (at least I hope so).... then, my new glasses won't be ready for a 3 weeks or so. Hence, the purpose behind sighting in 3 red dots so I can shoot some as soon as the anesthetic wears off :-X.....
Quote from: Redleg on June 02, 2016, 03:43:53 AM
Installed a red dot sight to 3 of my airguns since I have a cataract removal set up in a week and it's in my dominate eye. So I suppose everything will look differently early next week (at least I hope so).... then, my new glasses won't be ready for a 3 weeks or so. Hence, the purpose behind sighting in 3 red dots so I can shoot some as soon as the anesthetic wears off :-X.....
We will be keeping an eye out for your next post. 8)
But seriously, we sure hope everything comes out okay for you.
Carl
Had one eye done 10 years ago. Piece of cake. You should see pretty well in a couple of days even with out glasses. Getting close to needing the other one done. Steve
Wishing the best for you Red. :-* :-* :-*
fixed my Crosman 1077
broken hammer spring perch...a small plastic protrusion inside the receiver snapped off
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman%201077%20broken%20pin_zps1csmpybx.jpg)
pilot drilled a hole through the receiver and screwed in course threaded screw of proper length
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman%201077%20broken%20pin_2_zpsmdmbm0qs.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman%201077%20broken%20pin_3_zpsthgaw4nq.jpg)
Being the area the screw head is in is covered by the stock I countersunk the inside of stock for the screw head to fit into.
.
rwe_53,
Excellent repair on the 1077. Must remember for future use when and if needed. :-*
Trying to color match paint and sheen to refinish a older Mark 2.
Found the right paint, now have to get the old finish off.
The outer barrel was taken off and painted with the paint shown, the receiver hasn't been painted yet.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/654v89.jpg)
(http://i63.tinypic.com/e7ciab.jpg)
I have always had good luck with Krylon paints:)
Bill :)
Slotted a 3/8" wide Arky-pod. This one with aluminum legs.
That looks nice :-* :-*
I like it Rich. Nice work as usual. :-* :-*
Love those slots, gives the Arky-pod a nice look.
Carl
I like it nice work Rich. :-* :-* :-*
Very nice job .... :-*
Quote from: quickster47 on June 09, 2016, 03:45:33 AM
Love those slots, gives the Arky-pod a nice look.
Carl
Thanks guys! It started with a much thinner slot, but because of a burr, I ended up putting in a larger, sharper end mill. I have it in the Anodize tank right now. Working on my CNC fixture. Deal was struck with shop owner. He will program and run those on the CNC mill if I program a funky job on the CNC lathe for him :-*
BTW: I think I saw Carl's sloted band and liked it, so that is how this one became what it is.
Good job Rich. You'll probably get an order from me as soon as you put them up for sale. :)
Well, there is one standard 3/8 thick for sale on eBay right now. This one, I'm keeping for my gauntlet build. The CNC rounded version I am excited about, but it may be a little while yet. I am waiting on his guy to get the parts finished on the operations leading up to the CNC lathe work. Not sure how long that will be?? I'm making my fixture right now.
Here are the latest two parts out of the black dye Anodize. The Breech is 3.6" long with front screw location, right hand bolt slot and site flat only. If anyone is interested, let me know. There are two small dings on the very back face that I did not see prior to anodizing. Will not be a detractor, but will be priced accordingly for those dings.
Rich
Quote from: arkmaker on June 09, 2016, 05:43:59 PM
Well, there is one standard 3/8 thick for sale on eBay right now. This one, I'm keeping for my gauntlet build. The CNC rounded version I am excited about, but it may be a little while yet. I am waiting on his guy to get the parts finished on the operations leading up to the CNC lathe work. Not sure how long that will be?? I'm making my fixture right now.
Here are the latest two parts out of the black dye Anodize. The Breech is 3.6" long with front screw location, right hand bolt slot and site flat only. If anyone is interested, let me know. There are two small dings on the very back face that I did not see prior to anodizing. Will not be a detractor, but will be priced accordingly for those dings.
Rich
Me likes the parts !! :-* :-* :-*
Great stuff Rich!
Great work Rich!
Glen
I built a shooting bench to replace the former arrangement which would charitably be described as slightly better than offhand. The goal was to be rigid but also light as it has to be easily moved. The top is 2' x 3' 3/4" plywood. Since it will be used on a slight incline, a 1/4" x 1 3/8" trim piece was added to the front and side edges to preclude the inevitable. It's not obvious in the photo, but the rear leg of the tripod is not on the outboard edge, but centered on the 12" wide rear section. Wheels will be added later so it can be rolled into the shed. (I am always surprised by camera lens distortion, that rear leg has more than twice the outward angle of the front legs)
That looks really nice. Good work! :-*
Nice job... :-*
Good looking bench Craig. :-*
Good job Craig. And nice that it is portable.
Carl
That is one fine bench :-\
Really nice :-* :-*
I'll need you out here when I finally get set to install a permanent bench rest range! ;)
Thanks all! :)
Rich,
Many, many ways to build a bench; I might consider some sort of masonry for a really permanent one, although I don't particularly like that look.
"Will build benches for land" ;)
Real nice woodworking skills Craig. :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: CraigH on June 17, 2016, 02:16:47 PM
I built a shooting bench to replace the former arrangement which would charitably be described as slightly better than offhand. The goal was to be rigid but also light as it has to be easily moved. The top is 2' x 3' 3/4" plywood. Since it will be used on a slight incline, a 1/4" x 1 3/8" trim piece was added to the front and side edges to preclude the inevitable. It's not obvious in the photo, but the rear leg of the tripod is not on the outboard edge, but centered on the 12" wide rear section. Wheels will be added later so it can be rolled into the shed. (I am always surprised by camera lens distortion, that rear leg has more than twice the outward angle of the front legs)
I love that ! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: Fronzdan on October 27, 2012, 04:25:40 PM
Inspired by the what's in your UPS truck thread....here's another question...
What work did you just do to one or your Crosmans?
Today I'm going to "bedliner" some plastic grips and see what I can do to make em stop shifting on a frame.
I took the left side plastic grip off my stock 2240 and filed the top of it where it was rubbing the joint next to my hand. It fits better now.
The right side grip moves a little when it is pushed. It's not moving enough to bother me yet.
Also filed a little off the bottom of the trigger to round the corner. It is a little better now.
Quote from: Tommy on June 21, 2016, 07:35:54 AM
I took the left side plastic grip off my stock 2240 and filed the top of it where it was rubbing the joint next to my hand. It fits better now.
The right side grip moves a little when it is pushed. It's not moving enough to bother me yet.
Also filed a little off the bottom of the trigger to round the corner. It is a little better now.
One thing that has always irritated the area between my thumb and index finger of my shooting hand is the sharp edge on the rear of the trigger frame. So I finally decided to do something about it and using my trusty Dremel and some various grade sanding drums I smoothed out that irritant. Looks great when painted and now it's smooth and doesn't give me any irritation.
Carl
That does look good Carl and functional too :-*
looks better Carl
Looks good. :)
Nice work Carl!
I've knocked that for er down in the past too :-*
Added pads and a knobed bolt to the sticks. Much better :-*
Nice shooting stick. You are just having too much fun. :-*
Rich I really like your sticks and may have to borrow your design.
Carl
Thanks MD :-* yes, been having fun with the Titan at about 18 yards. Burning through the pellets. Time for another pa order!!
Carl,
You can make it as fancy of plain as you desire. I put a sketch I. The titan thread to get anyone who wishes started. For the longest time, mine were just a 1x2x8' cut in half with a but an bolt. I used a rag in the V. The refinements came recently. But truth is, it only looks better and the tightening knob is a real plus.
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,16675.msg216733.html#msg216733 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,16675.msg216733.html#msg216733)
Rich
Rich,
These sticks are looking very marketable!
I use long Primos Trigger Stiks modded to "short". I wish I'd have had your sketch quite a while back. Cost savings alone would be worth it. Ergonomically, once the bucket height is set, sticks need a narrow range of adjustment. The mods you've been tweaking the sticks with are nearly perfect. I might suggest something like this(if it has been mentioned before my apologies) a "simple" eccentric cam clamp instead of the knob.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c54/R6j6B/cam%20clamp_zpss7de3mw6.jpg)
Yep, that would work :-* :-*
:) been down in the shop most of the day ! Been reloading some 9 mms. Just 460 of them ! ;D ;D ;D They want last long once my youngest son finds out that I have them ! :D :D Well it gave me something to do sitting in tha AC! ;) ;) Been to HOT to shoot here! Heat index today was 101 F. To hot for this old man any way ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
I hear you about the heat. I just came out of the shop. It has cooled down to 91 now. Before I started the fan, it was 99.8 in there!!!
I think I have about 1k of 9's and another 2k of 38's loaded up. I ran all the brass I had before leaving Florida. I need to do some shooting so I can reload again......before I forget how ;D
Quote from: arkmaker on June 25, 2016, 02:50:09 AM
I hear you about the heat. I just came out of the shop. It has cooled down to 91 now. Before I started the fan, it was 99.8 in there!!!
I think I have about 1k of 9's and another 2k of 38's loaded up. I ran all the brass I had before leaving Florida. I need to do some shooting so I can reload again......before I forget how ;D
:D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Did you forget how to ride a bicycle? You forgot how to reload 38spl? Get a grip. :P
Made another thirty shots with my stock 2240 at paper targets to adjust the peep sight. Went with the peep sight first since that is the one that was up when I received the gun. After thirty shots this 2240 changes the sound of the shot as the co2 cart starts to empty. At shot thirty five up to forty there is a visible drop at the target and almost worthless to shoot a pellet. The last two shots of forty sometimes fall to the floor off the cardboard box full of newspaper I use for a target backstop.
After six co2 carts and using a chair back for a steady rest the peep sight is making consistent shots at paper targets. Next I will come up with a better steady rest to see how close I can group shots.
Now you know why they call it a 2240. 22cal, 40 shots. ;)
Quote from: Tommy on June 25, 2016, 04:05:48 PM
Made another thirty shots with my stock 2240 at paper targets to adjust the peep sight. Went with the peep sight first since that is the one that was up when I received the gun. After thirty shots this 2240 changes the sound of the shot as the co2 cart starts to empty. At shot thirty five up to forty there is a visible drop at the target and almost worthless to shoot a pellet. The last two shots of forty sometimes fall to the floor off the cardboard box full of newspaper I use for a target backstop.
After six co2 carts and using a chair back for a steady rest the peep sight is making consistent shots at paper targets. Next I will come up with a better steady rest to see how close I can group shots.
That's the fun of it!! Keep having it. I usually stop at 30 with a stock valve. My 2250 only gets 25 sure shots, while my 1740 can hang in there to 45 before poi drop at 10M. They all vary a little and dependant on what you do to them.
Rich
:)
LOL ...it's only slightly better in Minnesota so you ain't alone!
got back a bit ago from helping my step daughter move. At age 20 she hasn't figured out that honest to goodness junk is totally replaceable. You can pick it up curbside anytime. After Five hours of loading/ unloading Sh...tuff that could've been done in 15 minutes if she just gotten a 20 yard dumpster, I'm done doing anything for the weekend. Best part is in just a few weeks, can do it all over again. Kids!
Built a new stock and handgrips for my 2240 - fiberglass.
Did not like the design of the plastic stock so came up with a new design.
Hand grips were not the right shape, so built new ones.
I have built a lot of things from fiberglass and take moulds off them to reproduce .
Just a fun project to build things you can't buy.
Where are the pic ? ???
Quote from: Seatec on June 27, 2016, 11:54:49 AM
Built a new stock and handgrips for my 2240 - fiberglass.
Did not like the design of the plastic stock so came up with a new design.
Hand grips were not the right shape, so built new ones.
I have built a lot of things from fiberglass and take moulds off them to reproduce .
Just a fun project to build things you can't buy.
Well...
Carl
Not finished yet, lots of sanding to do before I show it. ;D
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on June 25, 2016, 06:28:37 PM
:)
OUCH, 94 degrees feels like 96 in Phoenix, AZ 111 expected by noon, UGH
No work in the shop today or in the near future either :(
Quote from: Seatec on June 27, 2016, 05:10:40 PM
Not finished yet, lots of sanding to do before I show it. ;D
Can't wait to see 'em. I hope they come out nice for you.
If you sand and fill enough they will they will be acceptable, just takes a lot of time and sand paper and sore fingers. :)
Just finished my new stock and grips for 2240. Fits the hand a lot better than the plastic grips.
Can't post a picture it's too big and don't know how to down size. I could send it to some one if they are interested in downsize for me.
Wayne
Try again
Another one of new stock
That looks cool. 8)
:-* :-* :-* WoW!!! You did an awesome job. Looks really good. :-* :-* :-*
Carl
:-* WOW !! That looks great ! :-*
Nice work on that stock. :-*
Great job on your stock, you are quite the craftsman :):):)
Now that is a slick looking stock. I do like it!!!
That is an awesome looking stock. :-* :-* :-*
Nice job, I like it also ... :-*
Did you modify a 1399 stock or is that from scratch?
Great work there Seatec, looks great and those grips look comfortable. :-*
It's all built from scratch.
Wayne
Did you go the plug route to make the mold and then make the part by utilizing the mold???
What ever you did it is sure one nice job :):):
I used foam for the grips, carve out the shape that fits your hand, put on a very thin layer of fiberglass mat.
First the gun has to be cover with masking tape so you don't get reson on the gun.
Then if you are only going to make one, put on some body fill and sand and Fill a few times until it's smooth, then paint with flat black paint.
This if you are going to make one off.
I made this one so I could tale a mould off it and can make more if I decide I want to build a few.
The bump on the bottem of the handel I ground off it was in the way of my little finger, so now it is a better fit.
The stock was made from lexan, was going to use aluminum, but had scrap lexan on hand.
A piece of 1/8 lexan on each side under the handles and a 1/4 in piece in center.
The side pieces give it the strength to attach it to the handel.
Took me 3 days to build.
I could now make s set of handles in about 2 hours if I make a mould .
Wayne
Go to schoonerlabs.com and click on projects and you will see how I made the grips for a Webley Alecto, that took me about 2 weeks of making mistakes, but finally got it. I have made lots of larger fiberglass parts, but small ones are a lot harder to get the mat to lay down over small curves and soak with reson .
Just takes a lot of time.
The grips on the Webley would not fit my hand, so Joe Hickey made me a wooden set, and I just wanted to see if I could do it in fiberglass. Joe makes beautiful wood stocks for the 2240 and is a member on the Canadian airgun fourm and lives close to me.
Wayne
Wayne, your Webley Alecto grips also came out very nice. Very creative work using fiberglass and a great skill set you have.
Carl
Awesome!!! :-*
Some nifty skills you have Wayne :-*
That stock looms awesome. Great job!!!!
Built another stock, little wilder than the first one, more for zombie killing.
Started a mould for grips so I can make another set quick and no sanding. Had Joe Hickey in today and he loved the shape of the grips, fits the hand so much better than the plastic ones.
Will have pictures in a day or so. Big Holliday here in Canada tomorrow.
Wayne
went down to my shop to do a little work and to just clear my head a bit!! So I sat down and loaded 300 rounds of 9 mm ! That is one of the most mind clearing things in the world to me !! So thats all I have done today!! :) :)
Quote from: Seatec on June 29, 2016, 08:18:40 AM
It's all built from scratch.
Wayne
Very smooth and professional looking. What does it weigh?
Quote from: Seatec on June 29, 2016, 02:25:58 AM
Another one of new stock
Could you please provide a pic of the grip area where the stock joins? I don't think I quite understand how you blended the grips, frame and stock. How/what did you use to glue the pieces together? Thanks. This looks great :-*
The stock and grips weigh less than 1 lb.
The stock is bonded together with 5 min epoxy and the grips are separate.
The sides of the stock go on the frame on each side and there is a hole in the sides that go over the hole in the handle and fits in snug so there is no play and the grips just bolt on top.
The grips move around a bit, so have to put a dab of silicone to keep them from moving, because underside is so smooth. I have no one to downsize a picture right now, so have to wait for help before I can post more pictures.
Another idea I came up with to carry oil, pellets and co2 was get a shop gun amo sleeve at Wally World, use 2 for co2, one for oil and 2 for pellets.
I cut the top off the old co2 and use a rubber plug and fill it with pellets, so have everything with me on the stock.
I will post pictures when I have them down sized or I can send them to any one that will help, but I would need your email to send from my iPad.
Wayne
Quote from: Seatec on July 02, 2016, 06:09:45 PM
The stock and grips weigh less than 1 lb.
The stock is bonded together with 5 min epoxy and the grips are separate.
The sides of the stock go on the frame on each side and there is a hole in the sides that go over the hole in the handle and fits in snug so there is no play and the grips just bolt on top.
The grips move around a bit, so have to put a dab of silicone to keep them from moving, because underside is so smooth. I have no one to downsize a picture right now, so have to wait for help before I can post more pictures.
Another idea I came up with to carry oil, pellets and co2 was get a shop gun amo sleeve at Wally World, use 2 for co2, one for oil and 2 for pellets.
I cut the top off the old co2 and use a rubber plug and fill it with pellets, so have everything with me on the stock.
I will post pictures when I have them down sized or I can send them to any one that will help, but I would need your email to send from my iPad.
Wayne
I'll send you a PM with my eMail address and you can send the picts to me and I'll put them to a usable size.
Carl
Thanks Carl,mill get some soon, just working on fitting new stock on my other 2240.
Wayne
Trying to add a picture.
That is how the stock goes on the handle.
Shape I cut out of lexan.
My second stock.
Before painted
2240
Shape of grips, made for right hand
How I carry my ammo, cut the top off co2 for pellets and find a rubber plug to fit, that's the hard part.
You have done a great job, Thanks for sharing :-* :-* :-*
Bill :)
Quote from: Seatec on July 03, 2016, 01:54:10 AM
How I carry my ammo, cut the top off co2 for pellets and find a rubber plug to fit, that's the hard part.
Very resourceful with the co2 top removal. :-* I have been wondering what to do with them.
I was thinking with a proper plug, a bit of Jamenson 12 year Reserve would fit nicely.
Yes in case of snake bite one would have an elixir of comfort :) :) :)
Made mould for grips, can make a set a lot quicker .
Quote from: 1377x on May 24, 2016, 12:43:02 AM
yep. Don't even need a tap. I used a drill and the set screw. It threaded itself. Very sturdy considering what you're working with
I did a search on ''set screw into plastic breech'', and found this thread on page 219 but the picture did not follow with the quote. Any pros or cons with this mod? I was thinking it might stabilize the barrel for a little more accuracy?
Quote from: Tommy on July 04, 2016, 03:51:49 AMI was thinking it might stabilize the barrel for a little more accuracy?
You & I and many others think the same way. I don't know how much, if any, it does help but all my plastic breeches have a set screw. Only sure it can't hurt anything.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/100_05291.jpg)
Since I learned that trick a while back I've been adding an 8-32x1/8" set screw to all my plastic breechs, which I am using quite a bit. It does seem to add some good stability and the plastic breechs really do load very easy.
Carl
Yep, a good mod and almost free...... They sure do load easy :-*
Quote from: CraigH on May 24, 2016, 12:52:10 AM
This should be a new "first mod". I think I will do this on one of my new unopened 2240's after checking velocity without the screw first.
Do you have any velocity results yet before putting a set screw into the plastic breech and after?
I have been working on research with the'' Search'' feature here at CAPOF. Sifting through a lot of threads for info for modifying a Crosman 2240 for accuracy first. Later some power and keeping accuracy.
Tommy,
You will be doing A LOT of sifting :) Even now I find new (to me) things.
On your plastic breech set screw question, this has not been a priority. I would say though that there would be better, more consistent accuracy and only very little velocity increase, but again perhaps more consistent.
Tommy,
Here are a couple of pictures showing another way to add stability to the 2240 barrel to improve accuracy. Adding one or two additional barrel bands is a cheap way to stabilize the barrel.
Carl
Or you could use this. I place it next to the breech ....
https://americanairarms.com/product/22xx-barrel-band/
Quote from: KevinP on July 05, 2016, 04:58:38 PM
Or you could use this. I place it next to the breech ....
http://americanairarms.com/product/22xx-barrel-band/ (http://americanairarms.com/product/22xx-barrel-band/)
I have one of these also I used it on my 1750 Hpa build.
Quote from: KevinP on July 05, 2016, 04:58:38 PM
Or you could use this. I place it next to the breech ....
http://americanairarms.com/product/22xx-barrel-band/ (http://americanairarms.com/product/22xx-barrel-band/)
Yep I have three of them and they work really great but are also expensive. Whereas most folks got a few of the Crosman OEM bands laying around from having replaced them with better alternatives. So if you are on the cheap the OEM bands are an excellent choice.
Carl
That is true the are expensive and we all have a few factory barrel bands in the parts collection. :-* :-* :-*
All said is true :) but nothing clamps down better ... just saying ... :-*
Any guesses? ;)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p734/USMA-1982/IMG_0549_zpscchfytls.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/USMA-1982/media/IMG_0549_zpscchfytls.jpg.html)
I have 2 extra barrel bands that I don't use, I replaced mine with with brass and aluminum.
Build a shooting bench today, not good enough for pictures, just out of material I had laying around.
Wayne
Quote from: USMA-1982 on July 05, 2016, 09:14:42 PM
Any guesses? ;)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p734/USMA-1982/IMG_0549_zpscchfytls.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/USMA-1982/media/IMG_0549_zpscchfytls.jpg.html)
Polished, slotted & tapered stainless thing-a-mabob!
Quote from: USMA-1982 on July 05, 2016, 09:14:42 PM
Any guesses? ;)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p734/USMA-1982/IMG_0549_zpscchfytls.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/USMA-1982/media/IMG_0549_zpscchfytls.jpg.html)
Guide for a firing pin that fits in a tapered bolt hole. Would need an e-clip(or similar) to retain fp.
Else it's for a cable requiring same retainer clip.
I do like BillK's answer as it pretty much describes it 100%!!
It is well made to do exactly what it is intended for :)
I had one exactly like that but have just recently lost it. :)
Carl
Haha - trick question. If anyone, like me, has a Ford F-150 supercab with a rear "suicide" door that won't open - this is the part that fixes it. Took me almost 1 1/2 hours but my door opens again. There are two Bowden cables (like bicycle brake cables) that operate the upper and lower latches. The stainless steel part you see replaces a plastic cable end that deteriorates over time and then breaks. Fun project, now back to airguns. ;D
Quote from: USMA-1982 on July 05, 2016, 11:26:45 PM
Haha - trick question. If anyone, like me, has a Ford F-150 supercab with a rear "suicide" door that won't open - this is the part that fixes it. Took me almost 1 1/2 hours but my door opens again. There are two Bowden cables (like bicycle brake cables) that operate the upper and lower latches. The stainless steel part you see replaces a plastic cable end that deteriorates over time and then breaks. Fun project, now back to airguns. ;D
Well I'll be... ???
Carl
One learns something new every day, this is an awesome forum :) :) :)
Quote from: USMA-1982 on July 05, 2016, 09:14:42 PM
Any guesses? ;)
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p734/USMA-1982/IMG_0549_zpscchfytls.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/USMA-1982/media/IMG_0549_zpscchfytls.jpg.html)
Looks like a very shinny widget.
My airgun project for the day was to replace the lever pump assembly and pump tube on BillK's CMP 853. I had already replaced the valve, o-rings and foam wiper a couple of times to see if I could get better results than Bill. I had it shooting around 470 FPS with RWS 10 7.0 grain wadcutters. Factory spec is 510 FPS with (I believe) Daisy 7.8 grain wadcutters. With the new pump assembly and tube, I'm now getting around 480 FPS with 7.0 grain pellets. Nothing else to replace except for the barrel/valve assembly. I think this is the best it's going to do.
Quote from: USMA-1982 on July 06, 2016, 01:18:21 AM
My airgun project for the day was to replace the lever pump assembly and pump tube on BillK's CMP 853. I had already replaced the valve, o-rings and foam wiper a couple of times to see if I could get better results than Bill. I had it shooting around 470 FPS with RWS 10 7.0 grain wadcutters. Factory spec is 510 FPS with (I believe) Daisy 7.8 grain wadcutters. With the new pump assembly and tube, I'm now getting around 480 FPS with 7.0 grain pellets. Nothing else to replace except for the barrel/valve assembly. I think this is the best it's going to do.
Better than I had it.....After doing much reading I have found 470 is a pretty good speed (low average) for the gun. I think you got it maxed out.
Good going!!!
Thank you all for the feedback, and pictures. :-* As soon as I am caught up with other projects ;), I will do the extra set screw in the plastic breech, and an extra barrel band.
Quote from: BillK on July 06, 2016, 06:07:58 AM
Better than I had it.....After doing much reading I have found 470 is a pretty good speed (low average) for the gun. I think you got it maxed out.
Good going!!!
Crosman 4.0 gr SSP alloys are averaging right at 600 fps with a spread of around 10 fps - not bad. They group surprisingly well for light-weight pellets - sighted in at 10m with my little Tasco 3-8x28 scope they make one ragged hole. The lesson for x53 owners is lighter is better. I would go no heavier than 7.0 gr pellets with this power plant.
(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p734/USMA-1982/IMG_0550_zpsedrozkik.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/USMA-1982/media/IMG_0550_zpsedrozkik.jpg.html)
Looks like you found yourself a good pellet. :-*
Today on my stock 2240 I replaced the forward breech allen screw with a 4/48 X 9/32'' SS from a.c.customparts on ebay. It seems like the SS slotted screw will be easier to use with future modifications.
I had an older American Classic 1377 refurb and a PC77 from Wally-world that were in sad shape. The 1377 had a bad airtube, where-by the pump pivot pin holes was drilled off center (as in not perpendicular the pump arm slot). This caused the sight to lean to the right, and moved the barrel off the center of the air tube... no wonder it was a refurb! On the PC77, the grip frame would not mount perpendicular to the air tube, causing much accuracy issues... THE FIX! I stripped both pumpers and built one that is perfect in almost every aspect: PC77 has the older 1377 grip frame and valve assembly, as well as a hammer that was a half grain heavier. With everything lubed up, sporting a nice Blue Fork barrel band and a Crosman long steel breech, this pumper shoots real nice. I also polished the (stock) trigger components, and added a 22LR case as a spring guide, and it shoots much much better...
This base gun will now serve as my field target build. I'll try to get some pics of the gun this evening with it's Williams slotted sight.
Quote from: DRAGON64 on July 11, 2016, 07:29:32 PM
I had an older American Classic 1377 refurb and a PC77 from Wally-world that were in sad shape. The 1377 had a bad airtube, where-by the pump pivot pin holes was drilled off center (as in not perpendicular the pump arm slot). This caused the sight to lean to the right, and moved the barrel off the center of the air tube... no wonder it was a refurb! On the PC77, the grip frame would not mount perpendicular to the air tube, causing much accuracy issues... THE FIX! I stripped both pumpers and built one that is perfect in almost every aspect: PC77 has the older 1377 grip frame and valve assembly, as well as a hammer that was a half grain heavier. With everything lubed up, sporting a nice Blue Fork barrel band and a Crosman long steel breech, this pumper shoots real nice. I also polished the (stock) trigger components, and added a 22LR case as a spring guide, and it shoots much much better...
This base gun will now serve as my field target build. I'll try to get some pics of the gun this evening with it's Williams slotted sight.
Thanks for this post Dragon. I'm troubleshooting a 1377 that has terrible accuracy issues, even at 20'. I was hoping it wasn't the barrel or breech, but now I'll check the airtube first. It's the only part I have a spare of.
Jerry, I had a loose screw in front of the grip frame that caused a loss in accuracy on my carbine. Since its hidden by the pump handle, it was not obvious until I felt the wobble in the whole gun.
Just something else to consider.
JMJ
Timely reminder to check the screws. Wasn't having an issue but the front grip screw was 3/4 turn from tight! Saved me from chasing a zero problem. thanks!
Quote from: JMJinNC on July 13, 2016, 01:15:54 AM
Jerry, I had a loose screw in front of the grip frame that caused a loss in accuracy on my carbine. Since its hidden by the pump handle, it was not obvious until I felt the wobble in the whole gun.
Just something else to consider.
JMJ
Thanks, I haven't checked that one yet. This gun is so far off, by inches at 20'.
Quote from: Tater on July 13, 2016, 08:07:55 AM
Thanks, I haven't checked that one yet. This gun is so far off, by inches at 20'.
With my defective airtube, my 1377 was shooting two+ inches to the left!! From the shooters view point, the front barrel band was leaning a good 5 to 7 degrees to the right. This brought the barrel far off center. Aiming down the sights brought the point of impact back way left.
Work? Today I was a pupil. I talked for nearly an hour with David, owner/operator of Alchemy Works. The conversation, which centered around work to be done on my 1377, was both eye-opening and informative. If you want to know more, give him a call and ask... he really seems to know his stuffs!
Quote from: DRAGON64 on July 13, 2016, 02:28:41 PM
With my defective airtube, my 1377 was shooting two+ inches to the left!! From the shooters view point, the front barrel band was leaning a good 5 to 7 degrees to the right. This brought the barrel far off center. Aiming down the sights brought the point of impact back way left.
Thanks. For some reason, there is no visual signs of it being off. I've had a few experienced airgunners look at it too and they didn't see anything off.
Quote from: DRAGON64 on July 13, 2016, 07:41:19 PM
Work? Today I was a pupil. I talked for nearly an hour with David, owner/operator of Alchemy Works. The conversation, which centered around work to be done on my 1377, was both eye-opening and informative. If you want to know more, give him a call and ask... he really seems to know his stuffs!
Yep, David is a really great guy.
Installed an AGS adjustable cupped piston after I added a milk jug shim in the cup to piston gap. Preadjusted the piston to match the oem piston and as installed had @ 1/2"+ cam over. Chrony'd and am impressed as I didn't expect much. As it sits I gained 2+ pumps of velocity. 490 fps @ 6 pumps and 600 @ 10.
I consider that a success. Goals achieved with only slightly invasive mods.
I finally got all the parts that I have needed to work on the sight of my 2240. Put the steel breech on and the Gero red dot sight. I had to order anadapter for the sight to fit the dovetail rails on the steel breech which ran the cost up some, but this was in the sight description. The pistol shoots great at around 33 feet I can put five pellets that can be covered by a quarter. That is good for an old man.
Now I have a question from a newbie, what is a flat top valve and flat top pison? Also how to install that on this 2240? This question has probably been answered on the forum but I can't find it. I appreciate the advise I was given on the adapter for the sight and do appreciate the help that has been given.
I realize the mods and some of the others are holding their sides laughing as my ignorance shows, but thanks any way.
JC
Quote from: JC1 on July 15, 2016, 11:27:51 PM
I finally got all the parts that I have needed to work on the sight of my 2240. Put the steel breech on and the Gero red dot sight. I had to order anadapter for the sight to fit the dovetail rails on the steel breech which ran the cost up some, but this was in the sight description. The pistol shoots great at around 33 feet I can put five pellets that can be covered by a quarter. That is good for an old man.
Now I have a question from a newbie, what is a flat top valve and flat top pison? Also how to install that on this 2240? This question has probably been answered on the forum but I can't find it. I appreciate the advise I was given on the adapter for the sight and do appreciate the help that has been given.
I realize the mods and some of the others are holding their sides laughing as my ignorance shows, but thanks any way.
JC
You won't need the ftp/ftv JC, they are used in the 13XX series. No laughing involved ;) I feel the same way when these characters here start talking CO2 mods.
Glad you have your sights sorted, with a bit more shooting you'll be at a nickel :-*
I remember well thinking the same a few months ago. The flattop piston and valve are for pumpers, 1377, 1322, 2289, and some rifles. The Crosman pumper valve and piston are conical and inverted cone respectively. The idea is to provide zero headspace during pumping and better sealing with an o-ring vs the pump cup. They are not for 2240, 50, and 60 CO2 guns. There is a different sort of valve mod for CO2 guns, but someone else will have to answer that.
Here is an excellent picture - no testimonial, I have not used the product. Scroll down about 1/3 of the page. There is also a link showing the difference.
http://www.airgunsmith.com/cros1377/cros1322-77.htm (http://www.airgunsmith.com/cros1377/cros1322-77.htm)
Thanks for the information, I have the pumper also but these old arms get tired before I can shoot it much. That is the reason I have switched to the CO2 model. Still do not know very much about these as one can tell. But I do enjoy fooling with them.
Thanks again gor the information
JC
Jc if you want to up the power on your 2240 you need to either get an RP valve from Davio or a Boss valve from Baker airguns.I have a Boss in my 2240 and am very happy with it the shot count is cut in half but you have more power.Davios valve doesn't give the power of the boss but there are a few guys on here that have them and are very satisfied. https://www.bakerairguns.com/ (https://www.bakerairguns.com/)
I had a spare piston for a 1377 on hand, so I tried my hand at making a "stuffed" piston. The rods, o-ring and washer mods worked great. Then I hosed it all up by trying to heat some heat shrink onto the piston to hold the rods in... made a sticky gooey mess, slightly warped the piston, and thus failed the project... lesson learned.
If you need another stock piston, I have a spare or two I can send next time I post parts to mail. Let me know, just gathering dust here!
Flat tops have been on my short list for a while now, so sometime in the future, I'll have those also.
Rich
Quote from: arkmaker on July 18, 2016, 03:01:35 PM
If you need another stock piston, I have a spare or two I can send next time I post parts to mail. Let me know, just gathering dust here!
Flat tops have been on my short list for a while now, so sometime in the future, I'll have those also.
Rich
Thank you for the offer. As I do not have a spare any longer, I would be down for one, so I will be watching for your parts to mail.
My parts are in from Alchemy Werks, so this evening I will start modding my PC77 build. I am also having a Benjamin Marauder barrel machined to fit my build so as to take advantage of the 'choke' for accuracy.
Yesterday I cut a 3/4'' cpvc pipe tee that clips onto the cart tube of my 2240. A short piece of pipe connects to a flange screwed to a small board. This is a steady rest to hold the 2240 when adjusting the sights.
I prefer to set my gun sights by fixing a gun steady and shooting a paper target. Then with the gun still steady adjust the sights to the shot hole.
Sounds like a good idea. Where are the pictures? (http://crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/pics/Brutuz/nik2.gif)
OK A (http://crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/pics/Brutuz/nik2.gif) is on my list.
So I went to the out side range/garage and shot as many pellets as a 12g powerlet would shoot through my stock 2240 at a temperature of 89. However I did not put the down post into the steel flange. I just clamped it into a Black & Decker workmate #79-00. The 3/4'' cpvc pipe tee held it acceptable to adjust the sights till I ran out of windage. So I tweaked the front sight blade a bit.
Could not tell if the sight or the barrel moved. Reset the peep sight and it all looked good. Course I had to mess with it some more and tweaked the barrel band grub screws. Yup the sight window changed and I adjusted peep sight again.
I learned that it is possible to the set stock sights on a Crosman 2240 with plastic breech, ??? but there is a good reason most Crosmaniacs say the first mod should be a metal breech for the best stability.
Put another 40 shots through my 2240 in my stable steady rest. The sight picture was unchanged with stock 2240 peep sight. :-*
I managed a little time on a small PC77 project. I reworked the grip frame, polishing all of the contact surfaces, and adding small washers to take up the side-to-side slack in the trigger and sear. I also added the Alchemy Airwerks adjustable sear spring, which really helped to lighten the trigger pull. To finish the frame, I added a set of 1701P grips. I replaced the forearm with a 2289 forearm, and replaced stock valve with an Alchemy Airwerks RP power valve. T round out the work session, I stuffed the stock piston with 1/8" diameter rods, and added a washer and o-ring to the base of the piston cup. Once the barrel comes in from the machinist, I will complete the build.
Flipped over my 2240 stock sight to the notch. Sighted in good at my indoor range/garage with good lighting. Not so good in the shade branches of the pecan trees. I had ordered some light fiber off ebay and three colors to chose from. Put a short piece on top of the stock front blade sight with super glue. Did not drill a hole for it in the traditional manner just glued right on top straight. It came with one end mushroomed with heat on one end and the end was not. I did hold it up in front of my eye looking at the shadows in the trees. The mushroomed end obscured to much so I opted to cut both ends square and glue to the front sight. Sighted in on paper targets and the small red spot is much easier to see and only cost less than three dollars for four pieces. I wear trifocal glasses and there is no place I can see the front sight and rear sight clear at the same time. ??? So I am able to put the red light fiber in-between the black fuzzy notch, and put some same hole shots in paper at 24' around the size of $.25. :-*
Started a aluminum rail for 2240 18in BNM Shroud, got to put a sight on it today to finish it up.
Makes it look different, nothing out there like it that I could find. Just like doing mods that have not been done before.
Have to have pictures resized before I can post them.
Wayne
Go my rail done and sight mounted.
Got green laser mounted, nothing else to do with this gun, one of a kind.
Need someone to downsize pictures .
Wayne
Wayne,
http://www.shrinkpictures.com/ (http://www.shrinkpictures.com/)
Works well. :)
It came out bury, and if larger it's too large.
Just can't get these things to work for me so it's just a waste of time trying, so I don't bother with them.
Wayne
Use a hosting service like photobucket or postimage. Then link to your picture.
Another try
Worked but not very clear, when I go bigger it is too large to post, how do I get a clear picture.
Wayne
Best I can do
At least you can get the idea, hate a blury picture.
That looks awesome :-* :-*
I'll take some pictures out side, may be a bit better.
Wayne
The barrel rib is very nice! :-*
That's cool as POO-POO! Since we can't say the other word...lol.
Very nice Wayne.
If you post them through Photobucket, it resizes them for you. The pic itseft may just be blurry.
RVA for a 3/4" tube....
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/1322%20ACP/RVA_zpsli6w2pwr.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/1322%20ACP/RVA_zpsli6w2pwr.jpg.html)
I wasn't going to build pumpers anymore because I thought I had enough ??? ... But then... like always... something is making me do it ;D
When I put a 1720T frame in a Disco stock I found that the gauge is in a different position on the 1720/Prod than it is on the Disco. It surprised me as I thought Crosman was all about using the same parts for as many different guns as possible .
But No....
So, I got a new 2260 stock and thankfully it is as wide as the Disco stock and able to fit a 1" hole in it for the gauge. I didn't get the hole exactly in the center of the stock but I did get the distance from the hold down screw right. It all works.
Will put up more pics when finished with fitting & refinishing the action & stock.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/1720T/100_09871.jpg)
Oh ya, the stock on the left is the 1720T/Prod stock. Disco on Right.
Looking good!
Turned this 2260 back into a pistol... swapped the scope, added an RVA, and put on the rear sight from my NP pistol :)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN5156_zpspqvljq6o.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN5151_zpspk9vsqf6.jpg)
(http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q792/ecano21/DSCN5154_zpsvvfpwvwy.jpg)
Looks like a mean fighting machine ... :-*
WOW! That is nice. Looks like a real rat killer, for sure. :-*
BigErn, the stock is, will be, in a better place. :-*
But that does look nice.
Joe
Looked to be the right place for a post. Found many parts stashed from 'yesteryear' this evening. Put them all together. It became a 1322. Surprised it came together so well. Still needs tweaking and a leak fixed... Been running CO2 down here in 'warm' TX so long haven't 'needed' to pump. Seemed like a good time to rebuild it into something useful and get some exercise in my 'retirement'. Turned out good enough to post [JMHO]. HOping it likes CPs too. LOoking forward to hunting it this fall.
Thanks.
Looks good and as always it is fun to mod Crosmans, I am working on a 2240 with a .177 breech and barrel, when I get it finished I will try to figure out how to post pictures of it :)
Looks nice ... :-* ... who makes the scope mount, I like it .
Looks good for spare parts. Kevin the mount looks like a bkl offset mount.
Good looking. Now, lets see some holes in the target. :)
Had a 2250 that had been sitting in the safe for quite a while. I wanted to practice a bit of painting for a couple of PB projects so I grabbed some krylon and got to work. Prepped the blued pieces with a bath in warm vinegar to remove the blueing. Then sanded away up to 220 grit to allow paint to adhere. Painted up a BF frame I bought off Carl, and waiting on my tippman adapter from mellon. Then I'm putting on a bug buster and tippman folder. Will show off when done.
The khaki krylon doesn't match magpul's FDE very well. I'll probably paint the grip as well as the stock and adapter when I get them all.
Very nice! Did you use an airbrush on the contrasting color?
No, I used a base coat of olive green krylon. Then grabbed some of the weeds from behind my barn and held them up in front of each piece as a stencil and sprayed the khaki color over the top.
Looks good to me. :-*
That does look good. :-*
Quote from: beejwest on August 25, 2016, 07:58:47 PM
No, I used a base coat of olive green krylon. Then grabbed some of the weeds from behind my barn and held them up in front of each piece as a stencil and sprayed the khaki color over the top.
Nice job ... :-*
Today I superglued a fiber optic on the stock Crosman sight of my Custom Crosman 1300KT. So that gave cause to reset the Williams peep sight with target knobs and click adjustments. The target knobs and clicks make this a real easy to set rear sight.
What did Crosman say about your notch sight you ordered?
Yes I ordered a notch sight and Crosman sent a peep sight. I put it on the 1300KT and tried it. :-* Seems fine to me so I have not contacted Crosman. The notch and peep sight were the same price.
Well, if you contact them and tell them you ordered a notch rear sight and received the peep, they just might send you the sight you ordered free. And let you keep the peep sight as well. They are real good about making things right. :-*
Finally done....for now ;)
That came out NICE ... :-*
Looks great. :-*
Very Nice! :-*
Looks great beejwest.
Thanks everyone!
Looks good, add a ghilly suit and you would disappear in the woods :-* :-* :-*
Bill :)
Great paint job. :-* :-* :-*
Today I rermoved from my custom 1300KT the LW barrel, breech and instaled it on my 2240. Now I will need parts to put the 1300KT back togeather. The 2240 stock barrel is too short and the plastic breech has to go. Just sent a message to Rich at Ye ole Airgun Shop asking about an aluminum breech.
Today I changed out my 2250 tube for a 2260, I just need a longer for end now.
OK, my 2260 project has finally taken off. First round of paint didn't go so well. I botched it up pretty good in a misguided attempt to put it together not cured. So I stripped all the paint off and re-prepped all metal. In the interim I also had my stock ebonizing stuff getting ready. I'll post a full up write up in about a week with pics, but the stock is done now, curing, and paint (round #2) is also curing. Will Post pics soon.
Stuff was finally cured enough to work safely with!! Never checked with mods to see if 2260's were ok to talk about so if not I won't do a write up and I we can move this to general airgunning or wherever. Anyways it's 12:30AM and I just got done (big Friday night eh?) with this thing so the lighting isn't the best but until tomorrow here is some pics!
Brief list of work:
1. Stripped stock and ebonized with iron acetate and quebracho tea
2. Stripped all metal of bluing primed and repainted
3. Did the 3 screw trigger mod and cleaned and polished all internals.
THAT is beeeeauuuutiful! What sort of primer?
Krylon for metal. Then Krylon camo topped off with krylon matte clear coat. And thanks!
Very nice! That is a lot of good work & it shows.
Good work, really nice. :-\
Quote from: beejwest on September 17, 2016, 09:27:33 PM
Krylon for metal. Then Krylon camo topped off with krylon matte clear coat. And thanks!
Yes! Nicely done sir. It came out great.
Today I did some very minor work to my stock 1377.
Filled all of the voids in the plastic breech with epoxy.
Drilled and tapped a set screw into the top of the plastic breech.
Used silicone on the bottom of the plastic breech, and at each end of the barrel during assembly.
Epoxying the voids stiffens the breech a lot. And, using silicone to "glue" it down, as well as to glue the barrel at each end, keeps everything pretty tight, while still making it easy to tear apart again later (that's why I don't like using epoxy on the barrel).
The main reasons for these mods were to lock everything down a bit better, so that I can use the intermount kit with a red-dot. I know, everyone HATES the intermounts, and pushes the steel breech, but I like the ease of loading with the plastic breech, and I also like to be able to push the red-dot all the way to the end of the barrel. And, doing the above mods, while also using double-backed tape between the barrel and the intermounts, actually works pretty good.
When it works and you like it - :-* :-* Well done! :)
nice paint job
Quote from: gimemoore on September 18, 2016, 10:37:33 PM
Filled all of the voids in the plastic breech with epoxy.
Epoxying the voids stiffens the breech a lot.
Are you using the stock bolt, or did you screw in a custom bolt after the epoxy? I'd probably have epoxy going everywhere.
Did you take pics along the way?
Quote from: gimemoore on September 18, 2016, 10:37:33 PM
The main reasons for these mods were to lock everything down a bit better, so that I can use the intermount kit with a red-dot. I know, everyone HATES the intermounts, and pushes the steel breech, but I like the ease of loading with the plastic breech, and I also like to be able to push the red-dot all the way to the end of the barrel. And, doing the above mods, while also using double-backed tape between the barrel and the intermounts, actually works pretty good.
I use the intermounts also but jammed up against the plastic breech. (I have the steel breech on another) The tape is the ordinary office supply variety, foam variety or maybe a 3M type?
I guess I'm overly curious.
I used the stock bolt. It was a bit messy, which is why my phone never made it close enough to the table to get any pics. :P
As to the tape, the Duck brand indoor/outdoor carpet tape works good, and is cheap. It's a little bit thicker than normal tape, but still thinner than most of those foam mounting tapes at home depot.
I believe the biggest improvement to make to the stock breech is adding a small set screw to the top, above the transfer port. You can actually use the screw to tap it, if you're careful, but it's best to actually use a tap. Surprisingly, there is enough meat in the front part of that plastic breech to snug it down fairly tight.
I did some valve work on my 2260 I just painted. Angled the port, polished valve head, cut off 2 threads, and dropped in a lighter valve return spring. Then used a disco hammer spring and she's giving 15 shots per cart at 625 fps average with CPHP's. Probably lightened the valve spring a bit too much as the carts like to get stuck now but I'm super happy with 625.
Also put together my 1740 parts gun. All bone stock except 10" bbl. Got about 26 shots at 515 fps or so with 7.9 gr CPHP's.
On the downside while polishing the valve stem head I went too far and it came apart on me so I had to rob one from my stubby for the interim until I make another order from Crosman. May order a 20" bbl for the 1740 and turn it into a carbine. Not sure yet. Did have a literal blast shooting cans with it today though!
Quote from: mudduck48 on August 27, 2016, 04:41:19 AM
Well, if you contact them and tell them you ordered a notch rear sight and received the peep, they just might send you the sight you ordered free. And let you keep the peep sight as well. They are real good about making things right. :-*
I did contact Crosman with email. They sent me a Williams notch sight, and a pre paid UPS shipping label to return the peep sight with. I reused the package they sent the notch sight in, and the pre paid shipping label so I was out nothing except dropping it off at the local UPS.
I took some time today to freshen up my custom Crosman LW66 10M target rifle.
Coat of black satin paint on the compression tube and foregrip. Tapered the hammer spring adjuster and polished up the aluminum bits. Installed taller sight risers. Came out okay I think.
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JMJ
That looks really trick. Nice. :-*
Ya,,, that looks real nice. :-*
JMJinNC, there are some very nice details on that rifle. :-*
WOW! That is nice! Well done :-*
Lookin good John. :-*
Again, VERY nice! :o
How does it shoot? Show us some targets? ;)
Seems to me that gun should have a German name. So nice......
Quote from: Noah on October 06, 2016, 03:45:45 AM
Again, VERY nice! :o
How does it shoot? Show us some targets? ;)
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When I originally built it, I shot a 90/150 freehand without even adjusting the sights. Right on par with my Avanti 753 (I'm a 80-100/150 shooter normally). Since I raised the sights a bit, it shoulders better so I might try it in the monthly comps.
JMJ
Couldn't help it. Took my 1740 parts gun and had to add a .177 24" disco bbl. Never had a long bbl on a xx40 frame. Always been the xx50. I think it looks sweet without the xx50 foregrip and what not. Getting 650fps in this rig with stock valve set up with 7.9 CPHP's. Only thing I did was polish the brass on the stem and round off the sharp edges because the stem was new. I had pirated this one's stem for my stubby when I put it up for sale (by the way, someone go buy it!). Eventually I'll throw on a steel breech and a light scope I think. Or maybe she'll stay like this. I really like the crosman stock with the peep!
Just put an AO 3-9 scope on my Benj 397. Shot a bunch of groups. Then, removed the scope and mounts and returned
back to the Williams receiver sight.
Minor updates. New buttpad salvaged from the 1399 stock (with more vertical adjustment), handstop/sling stud on forearm and some textured paint underneath for better control.
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JMJ
Last night I put a steel breech on a 1322 for some reason (guess I just felt like tinkering...), if you have the parts you might as well use them I guess :), I don't have a pistol scope or open site to put on it so it's somewhat pointless, I might screw with a chunk of aluminum or something and make a site insert, doesn't look too hard...
Today I was having an itch to put a long .177 barrel on a 2240 with a 1399 stock for some reason, might have been beejwest above... turns out I had a .177 disco barrel and a .177 steel breech on hand, as well as my first 2240, and a Ruger 4x40 scope and rings floating around. The only real hangup is the only 1399 stock I had around was from a Craigslist deal and apparently it's old enough to be from the Coleman era and the pins for the grips have changed on the grip frames since then, so I swapped the grip frame from the 1377 that it was on before that someone filed off those pins...
Anyway, I guess this is a teaser, I'll see what I can do about getting pictures tomorrow, maybe I'll try to get the Maximus in the mix. Between this 1760/1740 or whatever you wanna call it and the maximus I need to site in two scopes...
HA! The long barrel 1740 gotcha Ranger!! I just got done telling my wife after dinner it was my new favorite. Open sights and all. It's scary accurate. I was out on a wasping mission with mine this evening. Have a bunch of pears on the ground that we didn't use under our pear tree. The wasps, bees and flies get all over 'em and get drunk on fermented pear I think. Anyways I was standing about 10 yards off shooting wasps off these pears with open sights! Even when I missed the wasps were too hammered to do anything :P
I just put a 14.5 inch barrel on my 2240 and at about 20 feet it shoots 10 inches high. I can't lower my notched sight or a peep sight that is also shooting a bit high. Is a scope the way to go to drop the point of impact?
First, was it ok with the original barrel? If so, there may be a problem with the new barrel.
Does it have the original plastic breech or a steel breech or other aftermarket breech?
Make sure the barrel band is aligned and snugged up.
You may want to grind the rear sight to correct.
I had a 2260 that could not be be sighted in with either the open sights or any scope - it was shooting considerably (over 3 inches) to the right with the sights moved to their limits.
Quote from: beejwest on October 17, 2016, 08:39:44 AM
HA! The long barrel 1740 gotcha Ranger!! I just got done telling my wife after dinner it was my new favorite. Open sights and all. It's scary accurate. I was out on a wasping mission with mine this evening. Have a bunch of pears on the ground that we didn't use under our pear tree. The wasps, bees and flies get all over 'em and get drunk on fermented pear I think. Anyways I was standing about 10 yards off shooting wasps off these pears with open sights! Even when I missed the wasps were too hammered to do anything :P
Nice! Sounds like fun shooting.
I never tried it with original barrel. I bought it as a open box item. It was used to put parts on for a photo shoot. It had only 5 shots put threw it. I did try unscrewing the sight pin a bit to raise that and it did help some, unfortunately it was not long enough to go further. The breech is steel and every thing does seem to be aligned
If you have a steel breech with the stock site modified to work, that is probably your problem, the rear site is most likely about 1/8" taller which would make you shoot a lot higher than the site was meant to on the plastic breech. If you got the 760 fiber optic site, that is taller, or add something to the front site to make it taller.
I was searching around and found the solution in archers airguns Blog. I am using the industry brand rear notched sight which came with a ar2078 rifle. Apparently on some 2240s at close ranges it causes them to hit high. His solution if using the stock front sight you can drill a small hole down the center of the blade and insert a finishing nail to the length needed to drop the point of impact. If I continue to use the rear sight I"ll search for a longer screw I can replace the sight pin with on the muzzle brake.
Yeah, that should do it
Sighted in my 1740 tonight, no pictures though since I didn't play with it til 9 tonight... it's a fun gun, needs either much shorter scope mounts or a higher cheek rest, or both, I'm not one for tall mounts but you can't complain too much about parts you find in your stash that came with something random... :) I definitely see what everyone says about loading a .177 pellet with the steel breech, I'll be finding a crayon soon. This thing hits harder than I was expecting and is much quieter than a 2240, I can see why it's a common setup
Quote from: rangerfredbob on October 18, 2016, 08:54:04 AM
Yeah, that should do it
Sighted in my 1740 tonight, no pictures though since I didn't play with it til 9 tonight... it's a fun gun, needs either much shorter scope mounts or a higher cheek rest, or both, I'm not one for tall mounts but you can't complain too much about parts you find in your stash that came with something random... :) I definitely see what everyone says about loading a .177 pellet with the steel breech, I'll be finding a crayon soon. This thing hits harder than I was expecting and is much quieter than a 2240, I can see why it's a common setup
If it is wood you can go for them sorbothane pads made by GodAGrips..
http://godagrip.com/cheek-pads.html (http://godagrip.com/cheek-pads.html)
Installed one on my AA S5..
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..and if it sports a Crosman stock then this..
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It is an ATI cheekpad..I replaced the plastic bolt and had custom stainless washers and bumper bolt ( it has a square neck ) machined..
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The ss washer is this type of bumper bolt because the ATI cheekpiece has a square hole. I chose one that would fit the hole "squarely", lol!
https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Bumper-Bolts-5MTP3 (https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Bumper-Bolts-5MTP3)
I had the bumper bolt refaced, cut then drilled.
Inspired once again by plasticclassic's stock for sale and the AA TRD I made this stock. Still needs some refinement, but closer......
Nice Rich - thickwall tubing or solid aluminum bar?
JMJ
This one is solid as I had it on hand. I also used and re-drilled/tapped the brass PA that I had drilled/tapped with 10-32 instead of the 8-32 that is needed. That needs replacing with SS.
Last night I shot it and discovered that the cheek riser won't work so I am going to remove it and add a delrin tube in its place. Also, need to cut down the butt pad and reverse the top bend.
On the next one, I'm going to try to find a shop with a bender. I think a 1 to 1-1/2" drop would allow for the adjustable riser to be used. I like the idea of having that option (plus, I think it looks cool). Will go with SS on the riser legs next time too. I have a bunch of AL shorts left over from Arky-pod legs that fit the bill for this prototype. May do something more AR style with the butt as well. I have more ideas right now than time ;D
Will update in a few years ;)
I had the same issue with my LW66 build - power adjuster and straight stock in line with the compression tube did not give good cheek rest positioning.
That's why I went to the modified 1399 stock. Raising the sights helped too.
I am using relatively thick-wall 7/8" aluminum tubing.
JMJ
Finally got a picture of the 1740 I made earlier this week:
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A close observation might reveal that the elevation scope cap is still in my garage :)
Looks good :-* :-* :-*
Bill :)
I like the stock arkmaker. Is it something that may be available?
Nice work on the rigs fellas, keep it up!!
Quote from: 1377x on October 22, 2016, 12:38:33 PM
I like the stock arkmaker. Is it something that may be available?
x1
Quote from: rangerfredbob on October 22, 2016, 07:38:25 AM
Finally got a picture of the 1740 I made earlier this week:
A close observation might reveal that the elevation scope cap is still in my garage :)
Looks nice, have you got a chance to shoot it yet ?
Quote from: rangerfredbob on October 22, 2016, 07:38:25 AM
Finally got a picture of the 1740 I made earlier this week:
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae84/rangerfredbob/Other%20toys/1740_zpsdppwdm67.jpg) (http://s960.photobucket.com/user/rangerfredbob/media/Other%20toys/1740_zpsdppwdm67.jpg.html)
A close observation might reveal that the elevation scope cap is still in my garage :)
Very nice. I have a similar rig (1750) that is my go to gun. Share the numbers you get with yours?
Quote from: rangerfredbob on October 22, 2016, 07:38:25 AM
Finally got a picture of the 1740 I made earlier this week:
A close observation might reveal that the elevation scope cap is still in my garage :)
I hope it's not under that woodpile. :o
Lol, no, it's in the garage where I sighted it in
When I get a chance to shoot it more I'll try to pull the crony out and see what it does
Well it started out by making a pivot pin. As you can see the brass was a little weak after (2) 10 pump trails. I then made one out of a worn out 3/16 drill bit. That didn't work out either. Found a piece of stainless steel stock round and it seems to be working for the moment...
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I also tapped my FTP for some off-setting set screws... I was pretty sketched as I didn't wanna ruin the Alchemy Airwerks FTP...
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I then made my own brass safety and went to town polishing.
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-Matt
You've been busy. Nice work. :-*
Looking good. :-*
That looks sharp!
That's a nice clean looking gun. Love the polished grip frame.
Quote from: BillK on November 01, 2016, 04:12:51 AM
That's a nice clean looking gun. Love the polished grip frame.
Agreed. Slap on a steel breech!
Quote from: Noah on November 01, 2016, 04:22:06 AM
Agreed. Slap on a steel breech!
Yup. That's next on the list, along with a 14.5" barrel and a stock
Finished a couple wire stocks today...one aluminum and one steel. Left them over length so customers can fit length of pull.
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Al
Good looking stocks. Especially like the ability to conform them to length. One size doesn't fit all. A simple cut is much easier than making a spacer to gain length.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/DBO%201322/100_05941.jpg)
Gippeto,
Do you sell those? I like!
Nice work Al. :-*
Excellent work Al I sent you a pm.
Just finished setting up my pellet traps in the carport before the snow comes. Messed around with lighting to see how things look through a Williams target reticle.......
I am using a heating pad which I hope will assist my CO2 guns in sub-freezing weather. Plan to heat the gun with the co2 inside. I have a very small thermometer to tape to the barrel.
Well, you beat me to moving the traps inside. MI is having a warm fall so far. My traps/target holders go to the basement. Sorta cool for CO2 (64*) but, no heater needed to keep POI @ 10M.
Quote from: BillK on November 09, 2016, 04:06:16 AM
Well, you beat me to moving the traps inside. MI is having a warm fall so far. My traps/target holders go to the basement. Sorta cool for CO2 (64*) but, no heater needed to keep POI @ 10M.
Temps dropped here fast the last couple days.
After reading some information here and elsewhere regarding the pressure that can be developed on moded 13XX pistols, I decided to pin the valve on this 1322C. I had first installed an 8-32 set screw in the front portion of the valve, like described in WyoMan's sticky, that is under the breech. And now there are two 8-32 machine screws in the back portion of the valve that are located a bit to the rear of the TP center line as the 13XX platform is of smaller diameter than the 22XX and the brass valve has a 0.0161" TP. There are threads in both the air tube and the valve on all three. Whether or not this is overkill, I now have the experience of pinning a valve.
I added an air bleed in the bottom of the air tube to help limit any air cushioning when the hammer is release (the hammer is not slab sided). Probably of limited effect but easy.
Pictures below. :)
Looks like that should work real well. :-*
Nicely done Craig.
Good job, Craig. Now I just need to get my 1322 to you for the same treatment. ;)
Joe
Nice work!
Glen
Thanks, guys! If you have a 13XX that "needs" it, Joe, I can probably get it done by the end of the year, based on how long this has been in progress. :D With poor vision I was rather hesitant for some time to set up and drill the work. :)
Hey,
We still have to meet up. Just let me know. I am road worthy again:
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Joe
Nice ride. There goes your pellet gun funds. :P
Close to finished :-*
* Original 2250B Tube
* 18" .22 Crosman Barrel
* Crosman Long Steel Breech (rear screw location)
* Nice Vintage Crosman Powder Coated Black 2-screw Trigger Frame
* Custom Stainless Steel Safety Pin - (Aluminum Anodized Black coming soon)
* 1399 Crosman Stock and Forearm with barrel band
* Custom Davio Boss Valve. (will be switched for stock 2240 valve soon)
* Crosman Black Bolt Handle
* Crosman .22 Black Bolt
* Disco Endcap modified Power Adjuster with Black Delrin Spring Guide (aluminum pictured)
* Disco Spring (works well with the PA and current installed valve)
* Custom Stainless Steel Fluted Striker with SS Pin
* Custom Shop Trigger Shoe. Anodized Black.
* Custom 3/4" Ported muzzle brake. Anodized Black.
* Screws are all after market button & flat heads (because this just makes sense)
* 4x16 Hawke serves as icing on the cake. (6x Bug Buster Compact coming soon)
Well, I don't have to tell anyone that my favorite carbine is the 22xx platform, do I? So when I got this 2250B tube from Carl, the idea was to build a completely stock 2250. One thing happened, then another and before you know it the only thing left stock on this shooter was the tube!
Then I fell into a couple of trades. And sitting in front of me I had a nice 2-screw trigger frame, an 18" barrel and steel breech and most of the parts to rebuild this carbine back to a very close to stock version of the now defunct Crosman 2250B! A wonderfully light and accurate airgun that still leaves me scratching my head as to why Crosman only offers this in the Custom Shop 2400KT version anymore? Oh well, they do make millions, while I make pennies :-)
Accuracy is great for a .22 Crosman barrel. I still want to try a few different brands of pellets, but for the most part, I was the cause of not putting pellets on top of one another. See pic for what this puppy is capable of! I choked on the money shot in Group #2. These are all 5 shot groups (except for the site in group). With the Boss valve, I was averaging 536 fps over 20 shots. I did change out PA's and got I've 30 good shots on this cart. Rare for this valve, so I may now be shooting a bit softer than the 536 fps. I'll set up the chrony next time I shoot and see where I stand. I'm down to 4 carts already, which means I've been shooting a lot over the hotter months! A very good thing indeed :-)
Update: cranked up the PA one turn. Now getting an average of 545 fps with the 16.44 AA's. Hitting 555 fps with CR Pointed and 565 with Daisy wadcutters. I am pretty much out of .22 pellets, so more testing will have just have to wait a bit. Funny thing is that I got 35 shots out of the first cart before falling below 535 fps with the AA's. Each shot after 35 was dropping about 25 fps. When this valve drops, it drops very noticeably!! POI dropped 3/4" each shot. So, the good thing about this valve is you know immediately when its time for a new cart.
And one more that is in the works!
* 2400KT Custom Shop Tube.
* 10" .177 Barrel re-crowned and polished ramp.
* 2240 Valve - light spring and modified & polished exit port. (coming soon)
* 4-1/4" Bull Shot Aluminum Breech. Anodized Black.
* NcStar 2.5x Pistol Scope.
* Custom Shop Trigger Frame.
* Custom Grips & Forearm. (being made now)
* Brass Safety Pin.
* Brass Ball Bolt Handle.
* Crosman .177 Brass Bolt.
* Brass Power Adjuster.
* SS Custom Transfer Port bored to .120".
* SS Slabbed Side Striker.
* Brass Target Style Trigger Shoe.
* Brass 7/8" muzzle brake.
I had a good .177 barrel, so I decided to go for another good shot count target pistol in the 2400 platform. I'm very happy with the outcome so far. I'm hopeful that accuracy is close to my 1740 which has a LW barrel. Shot count and velocity will be tweaked to be comparable as well. I know this barrel, so getting the spring adjusted right will be the key to keeping the spread low. Right now I have a steel valve in it. I think this was made for higher pressure hpa, so its leaking with co2. As soon as I get a new 2240 valve I can start the fun of tweaking it.
Note: valve on its way from Crosman!
Looks real good. :-*
Quote from: mudduck48 on November 15, 2016, 05:34:02 PM
Nice ride. There goes your pellet gun funds. :P
Thanks. It's more for the wife...she drives it way more than me.
Thank the pellet gawds I'm in good with Predator Int. for my ammo. :-* ;) 8)
Man, arkmaker, you've been busy. Nice shooters.
Joe
Rich, you are the man, great builds going on, Thanks for sharing :-* :-* :-*
Bill :)
Looks like you have a winner there. What are you going to use for sights? ???
Thanks
I have another pistol scope in mind :-*
Great builds Rich. I agree that the 2250B carbine is a wonderful platform. And the 1740 is one of the best target pistols. I do like what you have done with them. Love that brass!
Those are some real nice builds Rich. :-* :-* :-*
put my nv set up back on my .25 king rat and made a new bottle seal as it was leaking from the pin valve
could have saved some work as I then swapped the on off to an ag1 instead of the inline one
started doing some barrel length testing on my other .25 and found a drop of 80fps swapping from a 20 down to a 10
I decided to keep with a 12" one which leaves me an offcut that'll make a 7 1/2" one
barrel now cut down to 12 5/16" 90* barrel face crown as it'll be shrouded so no need to do a recessed type crown
pickle bush made as well
Rugged and fantastic build, Herr Ped :-*
:-* :-*
Wow, nice!!!
Super! :-*
Looking good Ped.
Good stuff Ped.
I had some 1.25" diameter aluminum tube handy, so I fashioned a new LDC for my carbine. Previous one was 1" diameter thin wall aluminum tubing. New one is thicker, with aluminum components on the ends. Beefy!
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JMJ
Nice looking new ldc. :-* :-* :-*
Beefy! for sure. ... nice looker ... :-\ :-*
Bummer. Did some shooting out to 25m and the new duffer is throwing pellets 2" high. Sound level is about the same, so the old one went back on. Accuracy is back to normal.
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JMJ
Did you try turning it a bit at a time ? .. I had one that a quarter turn did a
world of difference ...
Mine barrel end is threaded, so it's only snug in one orientation. I could try it not fully threaded on and see if that helps, then use a washer to space it right. Thanks for the tip.
JMJ
oh, didn't know that. Yes the washer might work. Skinny one for sure.
shame that Jim would have thought the larger od would have been more effective
you could try increasing the bore through the baffle washers and endcap
I opened up the exit bore, but didn't help. Might be due to different stiffness if the barrel. Will try rotation. If it works, getting the right thickness washer is easy since I know the thread pitch (.0625"/full turn).
Update. Tried a few things. Accuracy improved but not consistently. Favored a loose interface to the barrel (threads at muzzle, set screw at the rear) which is not workable. Not a big deal as I had no money into this project.
I put the old one back on and measured my site-in distance - 30 yards. Swore it was less than that. Recalculated everything in Chairgun, then set up and shot some groups at 50 and 55 yards. Kept everything on paper (4" diameter target) but confirmed I need more practice before I attempt a FT match.
JMJ
No pics yet, but.....Finished up my brass bling 2250 pistol yesterday. Now time for tuning. I milled a site into the muzzle brake. May still yet mill a flat on the bottom as well to keep things in perspective. I know this one is accurate. Thing to do now is tame it for a nice even spread.
Also, made good headway on a 2240. All that is left to do is the muzzle brake and anodizing the aluminum parts and of course tune it. Should be a good one or at least I'm hoping it is.
Grand prix on so all work on ripping the old kitchen floor up is halted for a couple of hours
Not too cold in the shed so I've machined the m-rod .25 barrel offcut left over from my carbine to fit a breech I've recently got from Rich which is made for a larger od barrel
I've machined an o ring recess into it for a 010 o ring and turned the barrel to 7/16 think I'll mill the tp seat and drill the port at a later date along with doing a probe
a few more pics
Really nice work going on there. 8)
Tidy bit of work Ped, nicely done. 8)
Not doing the chamber and leade?
Al
port drilled and tp seat milled
robbed a probe from another breech and started on the leade,probe locks up ok but pellets are tight to load so a bit more taper and a slight ream on the loading tray
got a bit cold to finish off Al and tea was calling -well a beer first
will try to get out in the shed tomorrow to finish off
I added a steel breech and shoulder stock to my 1377. After that I put on a "red dot" sight, which is a great improvement over the factory iron sights.
Has anyone else modified their 1377? ;)
Quote from: Jaybo on November 28, 2016, 12:27:02 AM
I added a steel breech and shoulder stock to my 1377. After that I put on a "red dot" sight, which is a great improvement over the factory iron sights.
Has anyone else modified their 1377? ;)
The easier question would be who hasn't. ;D
Quote from: Jaybo on November 28, 2016, 12:27:02 AM
I added a steel breech and shoulder stock to my 1377. After that I put on a "red dot" sight, which is a great improvement over the factory iron sights.
Has anyone else modified their 1377? ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nope, no one on this forum. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cleaned my work bench off. Whew! That needed doing: BAD. Also cleaned out my trap. Must have been 25 pounds of lead in there! ??? Then I played with my 2289, again. Been trying to dial this thing in for about 6 months with # of pumps, pellet selection, etc. In taking the hammer spring out today, I noticed I was getting a lot of hammer drag on the P-rod grip frame. Does anyone else see that in their backpacker? I have a custom hammer from Davio that is solid, but it drags on the sear so much so that when holding the trigger down, it won't gravity slide to the valve. It wasn't dumping all the air at 15 pumps, so I put a heavier hammer spring in, and put a lighter sear spring in. It still won't free fall, but it's much much better and it dumps all air at 25 pumps now. Got 486 fps from JSB 25.39 grain pellets! :-* and 640 from 14.3 CPHP's. It's a squirrel hammer!
I have 2 guns with the 1701p trigger. I noticed hammer drag on mine, so they both have Disco springs with preload adjusters to dial in the dump force.
JMJ
Seems like the inverse of the problem I was having with 1322 / Prod combination not cocking. ??? ??? ???
I extend the slot that the sear comes through 1/4 inch and I've never had any trouble. :)
In the hammer? It's solid in my case...
Quote from: beejwest on November 30, 2016, 05:30:58 AM
In the hammer? It's solid in my case...
The slot in the tube, not the hammer. :D
;D hour
I just finished making a dedicated rear stock for the LW66. This one is for the kids - I machined away the back of the grip so they can get their thumbs around easier. Did some shaping, then painted it satin black.
Also made a dedicated "big" rear stock for myself that is not adjustable for LOP.
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Comparing the grips
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Profiled area. Actually broke through, but no sharp edges.
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JMJ
much easier for the kids to use now Jim I bet
Really like that mod to the 1399 stock! :-* :-* :-*
Very cool to see alright. I'd like to know more about those sights - what type would you call those, and who made that set? Assume it's a peep sight for target shooting from a bench? What's the white plastic (I'm guessing) strip hanging off the eyeball end?
I think I'm falling in love with peep sights lately. I've always wondered, and nowadays more than ever, why we don't see them more often?
Kurt, those are aperture sights. Front sight also called a globe sight. These guns are for 10m freehand shooting.
These are Daisy/Avanti sights. I made the front sight insert myself.
The plastic piece is a blinder so you can shoot both eyes open, with the non-aiming eye looking at the white shield. Picture shows it in "stored" position.
These pictures show set up for shooting.
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(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/JMJinNC/Walther%20and%20Avanti/4D88965D-2D39-4685-B3B7-90F21194228A_zpsjwyqe18i.jpg) (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/JMJinNC/media/Walther%20and%20Avanti/4D88965D-2D39-4685-B3B7-90F21194228A_zpsjwyqe18i.jpg.html)
Also made a revised buttpad for the rear stock. Idea came from biathlon guns with adjustable shoulder and armpit extensions. Shown below my 1377 carbine, next to the LW66.
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JMJ
Another strip down of my E9a to try and find why it dumps the CO2 out of the barrel as soon as I cock and fire with a new capsule:(
Is there a seal on the face where the cart meets the valve?
valve stem seal is fubar'd if it's leaking out of the barrel or the brass sealing ring is damaged
is it the cartridge valve or the soldered valve
Quote from: beejwest on December 21, 2016, 09:41:50 PM
Is there a seal on the face where the cart meets the valve?
Yes there is, an orange coloured seal. I've tried with both the new (from TW Chambers) and the old but with no luck.
Quote from: ped on December 21, 2016, 09:44:17 PM
valve stem seal is fubar'd if it's leaking out of the barrel or the brass sealing ring is damaged
is it the cartridge valve or the soldered valve
It's a cartridge valve. I've had the valve apart, cleaned lightly lubed and reassembled and it's no good.
Will keep my eyes open for another valve as there is evidence of pliers and mole grips having been used.
you'll just need the stem and o rings
not sure if anyone has the valves in stock in the UK seems a few are looking to reseal eb pistols but are struggling to get parts
you might be able to retro fit a 22xx stem in place of the benjy one as they're very similar but without pulling a valve out of one of my eb's I couldn't say for definate
Bought a 14" barrel ,cut and re-crowned to 12" and tuned to UK legal power and enjoyed the accuracy
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Getting ready for CO2 weather - replaced the standard straight trigger with a RAW set back trigger blade on my Challenger 1760. It has a good, solid feel to it and I like the slight curve compared to the long straight Challenger blade.
Here's an old pic of my Challenger build to refresh memories. It's a 1760 tube and internals with a Challenger 2009 stock and trigger group. Also added the spacer between the tube and trigger group.
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Looking good. :-*
That looks spot on! Great job :-* :-*
Is that a Challenger trigger guard?
I ask because I just got a mrod trigger group and I think it might be a lot easier to buy one than to make one ???
Quote from: arkmaker on March 09, 2017, 01:37:41 AM
That looks spot on! Great job :-* :-*
Is that a Challenger trigger guard?
I ask because I just got a mrod trigger group and I think it might be a lot easier to buy one than to make one ???
Correct - that is the Challenger trigger guard.
I recently ordered a challenger trigger guard that came in black. Is yours an older one or was the finished removed?
Quote from: Ken on March 09, 2017, 03:39:15 AM
I recently ordered a challenger trigger guard that came in black. Is yours an older one or was the finished removed?
Original finish. Built this rifle in mid-2013, so it's almost 4 years old.
A new bolt in my 1377 pistol...the alchemy airwerks extended probe bolt. Initial impression One click less drop at 30yards which I guess is related to speed though whether that's better air flow or better seating. It does shoot hollow points better now which was a surprise. I have added this to the list of parts for my carbine build
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Quote from: USMA-1982 on March 08, 2017, 01:45:55 AM
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Getting ready for CO2 weather - replaced the standard straight trigger with a RAW set back trigger blade on my Challenger 1760. It has a good, solid feel to it and I like the slight curve compared to the long straight Challenger blade.
Here's an old pic of my Challenger build to refresh memories. It's a 1760 tube and internals with a Challenger 2009 stock and trigger group. Also added the spacer between the tube and trigger group.
[img
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Very nice, Ed. I have been thinking of that trigger since seeing it on GTA. Since then I have added two other Mrod trigger groups to guns and decided I might better keep them all the same. (Can't afford 3 of them.)
Quote from: Xgecko on March 09, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
A new bolt in my 1377 pistol...the alchemy airwerks extended probe bolt. Initial impression One click less drop at 30yards which I guess is related to speed though whether that's better air flow or better seating. It does shoot hollow points better now which was a surprise. I have added this to the list of parts for my carbine build
Great looking bolt handle. And, yes the elongated bolt is responsible for your gains in accuracy and FPS.
Quote from: BillK on March 09, 2017, 05:27:46 AM
Quote from: Xgecko on March 09, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
A new bolt in my 1377 pistol...the alchemy airwerks extended probe bolt. Initial impression One click less drop at 30yards which I guess is related to speed though whether that's better air flow or better seating. It does shoot hollow points better now which was a surprise. I have added this to the list of parts for my carbine build
Great looking bolt handle. And, yes the elongated bolt is responsible for your gains in accuracy and FPS.
Thanks I got the bolt handle from a shooter in Maine who I have sadly last my contact info for.
Quote from: BillK on March 09, 2017, 05:24:36 AM
Very nice, Ed. I have been thinking of that trigger since seeing it on GTA. Since then I have added two other Mrod trigger groups to guns and decided I might better keep them all the same. (Can't afford 3 of them.)
One thing I read on the GTA threads was the Challenger/M-Rod triggers are cast metal and tend to break. So if you try one of the RAW triggers it does give you a spare ;) Installing the trigger was a snap too - only required drilling out the hole for the pin to 1/8. And while I had it open I took the time to see how the stage and trigger pull adjustment screws work in concert. I had never adjusted the factory pull so now it's really sweet. Thinking about taking out the "lawyer" spring next and bringing trigger pull down to a few ounces like my FWB 300S.
One last thing I did was to place a small cardboard shim between the trigger guard and the trigger box. No matter how hard I cranked down on the retaining screw the trigger guard still tended to pivot out of alignment with normal handling. The shim locks it in place.
Cheers!
Not a lot, but I added a 1399 stock to my 1377, installed an adjustable trigger spring, and shot a bit. Trying to decide what to do next; if I want to keep my other 1377 stock and add a 2240 to mod, or add more goodies to the first 1377. What a tough life ;)
Quote from: iflyos on March 21, 2017, 02:36:36 AM
Not a lot, but I added a 1399 stock to my 1377, installed an adjustable trigger spring, and shot a bit. Trying to decide what to do next; if I want to keep my other 1377 stock and add a 2240 to mod, or add more goodies to the first 1377. What a tough life ;)
Me: You will do both...
You: I will do both...
The Lead is strong in this one.
Lord Monkeydad1969 Vader
Swapped a TruGlo red dot that didn't have enough down elevation adjustment to zero it for a Weaver that works fine. Looks better to boot, to my eyes. Might put the tube red dot onto the AR for grins. The little 4x32 scope worked okay but made loading a bit too tight.
Trying to find the part numbers for everything needed to convert the 2400KT to a P-rod trigger/grip frame. If anyone has a link I'd appreciate it!
TruGlo
(http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/images/4/4d/CROSMAN_2400_C.jpg)
Weaver
(http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/images/c/cb/CROSMAN_2400_W-RED_DOT.jpg)
QuoteTrying to find the part numbers for everything needed to convert the 2400KT to a P-rod trigger/grip frame. If anyone has a link I'd appreciate it!
Cobalt,
I imagine that you know some of this, but for anyone that hasn't done it yet here is some info on ordering from Crosman and converting to that trigger.
I have done a couple 3 of these conversions (a 2300KT, a 2240, and a 2250) and other than the P-rod trigger group (part # 2220-103) these are the only parts I needed:
$6.59 Crosman Striker 1763A036
$17.28 Crosman Hammer CH2009A009
No Link needed but if you want to see the EVP, here it is:
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201592430/BP2220-EVP___PL.pdf
Just call customer support @ 1-800-724-7486
and ask to place an order. Give them the part numbers and the shipping is $4 for the whole order.
I had to grind a slot in the hammer for my 2300KT because it has the new front breech screw position (rearwards under the bolt). I duplicated the slot in the old hammer. You may want to pick up some of those 4-48, .050 breech screws too, part # 1322b027.
Great trigger!
Many Blessings,
Jerry
Decided to keep the 24 inch barrel uncut for the forseeable future so I ordered the OEM front sight made for the 2240 et all.
Simple snap on fit nothing out of the ordinary.
Had to raise my rear sight a bit but otherwise nothing special.
I did ream out the peep sight just a RCH. Before reaming my sight picture had a sort of hourglass like distortion in some lighting conditions. I guess the aperture was out of the round.
Used the smallest bit that wouldn't pass through the aperture then turned it only using my fingers, the amount removed was infinitesimal.
Aiming is no a bit easier and quicker.
@JEBert Thank you taking the time to post that info. Much appreciated!
The problematic sound muzzle brake on my new Norica Black Eagle had to go. I really don't get why a springer would have these things anyway, since it's not shooting supersonic, and the bulk of the noise comes from the spring. The barrel was pretty dirty, yet every time I ran a patch through the barrel the patch would get entangled in the baffling. I had to tie, with thread, the patch to the jag, push it through the barrel, remove the jag so I could pull the rod back through the bore, tie on another patch... . I sent a message to Norica asking how the muzzle brake was attached (heat), and how I might remove it (break it). In the labor intensive process of doing so I gained a, not very loving, respect for the toughness of the plastic the thing was made of. And, yes, there was the predictable amount of blood involved, along with some choice words. I had a steel muzzle brake which I J-B Welded in place, shortening the overall length of the gun about 4". Here are before and after shots. Can't see it, but in the lower pic the barrel is much cleaner - what a PITA! I also changed the scope to a 6X Bugbuster, my preferred magnification for target shooting. RC
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I found that with the 24" barrel my rifle is about as quiet as one would wish and velocity and sight radius are excellent.
I'd rather have the advantages of a longer barrel than to use a muzzle attachment that would give the same or longer OAL without the benefits of the longer barrel.
Only time a muzzle attachment would be of use to me would be if it was detachable and the barrel was to be kept short for convenience in storage or transport.
When the design calls for a short barrel then the attachment can overcome the disadvantages of a short barrel.
Some short barrels will outshoot a longer barrel. Longer doesn't always mean better......unless your name is Trump, but you need big hands too! ;-)
sorry, couldn't resist..............
What you see in the comparison pics is how much the muzzle brake added to the length of the gun, while the bottom pic shows, within 3/8", how long the barrel actually is, and you're right, length doesn't matter if it's a good barrel, and this one is in spades. If the proverbial proof is in the pudding, the pudding here is 20 shots at 8m rested. RC
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Can't kick on that....she's a winner! :-* :-* :-*
A work in progress for sure ....
You're doing a fine job. Is the grub screw on the trigger guard to limit over travel? RC
RC ... it is ... KP
Cool Build. 8) 8) 8)
Looks good...I like it! :-* :-* :-*
Thanks ... but .... not happy .... will change .... :-*
The beginning of the process.........
.177 Stock Disco except for;
All new o-rings inside
Double Barrel Bands
M-rod Trigger Assembly with Shim
Hawke 4-16x50 Map Pro Scope
Boyd's Custom Stock
To Come:
SteveNC Free Flight Hammer Debounce Thing-a-ma-jig....maybe, I already have it, but I'm happy with 45 shots?
Trigger Guard (have an idea)
New High Rings
Robert Lane Regulator from over the pond
Finally got the m-rod trigger assembly installed. I had to make a new fitting and spacer for the stock to fit properly. Installed the 2nd barrel band. Lost the stock rear site tube and site. Got the scope re-mounted and was only off 7 inches to the right!! Will need to address this with a new set of rings in the near future as I used up most of my windage travel to get me on target.
My back has been giving me fits again lately, but I could not stand to wait any longer, so after watching the Gators loose to SC :-( I grabbed the rifle and headed downstairs. It took me a while to get from 1K up to 2K on the gun's gauge, but I did it.
Truthfully, I was expecting about 20-25 shots because that was all I was getting before the new orings were installed. I got 45 good shots and the gauge is still only at 1200 psi. I think I could have pushed it to 50 shots and still maintained 1K. The PA seems to be adjusted right, but I did no chrony work this time. It seems to be hitting pretty hard and I dinged the crap out of the spinners on the last 3-4 shots. When you compare the dings to
what the Fusion was doing at 700 fps, I figure that I am still in the high 700's by shot 45. I just wanted to see how she would shoot and it did leave me smiling. I'm thinking this is a good starting point for some fine tuning!
Accuracy at 10 meters is not a problem. All of the groups except #7 can be easily covered with a dime and #7 just misses the mark because of my 2 crappy shots. Like the Fusion, I need to strech it out next time around. For now, some Advil and a heating pad ;-)
Rich
Good looking stock. That's the same stock my son wants.
Nice shots too.
Joe
Nice shooting Rich. :-* Couldn't expect less from you and that fine looking rifle. ;)
Hope your back heals. I do a chiropractor for mine & he does help.
Quote from: BillK on March 27, 2017, 02:21:45 AM
Nice shooting Rich. :-* Couldn't expect less from you and that fine looking rifle. ;)
Hope your back heals. I do a chiropractor for mine & he does help.
Works for me also .... but, can you even find one out in the sticks where you are ... ?
Bad experience with one when I was younger. Learned real quick that with my bone condition, a chiropractor was a no go for me. Sometimes I wish I could, thats for sure!
BTW: the m-rod trigger group is a fantastic upgrade. I need to lighten it up a tad, just a tad though. I do think this was the significant difference in improving the accuracy on this one. Highly reccomended as a #1 replacement if you have a Disco. I actually like the feel of the 1701p trigger better, but it is close, so very close to each other,
Quote from: arkmaker on March 27, 2017, 12:33:25 PM
Bad experience with one when I was younger. Learned real quick that with my bone condition, a chiropractor was a no go for me. Sometimes I wish I could, thats for sure!
BTW: the m-rod trigger group is a fantastic upgrade. I need to lighten it up a tad, just a tad though. I do think this was the significant difference in improving the accuracy on this one. Highly reccomended as a #1 replacement if you have a Disco. I actually like the feel of the 1701p trigger better, but it is close, so very close to each other,
Did you remove the Lawyer Spring? It does make it even better with the spring out.
Have not looked inside. Which one is the lawyer??
Its the large spring on the right. Just straighten it and replace it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6NjoQ7bzMc
A little more info.
https://avveduti.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/marauder-project-lightening-the-trigger/
Thanks!
Was loaned an old .30cal air rifle to check out and see if it can be made useable. Have never seen anything like it before, no idea who made it. Not a Crosman, but easily worth a peek... 8) Will add todays pictures/work later tonight.
http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/library/Old%2030%20cal%20airgun
Al
Rich, also make sure all the other springs are installed correctly. The m-rod trigger group I bought was put together wrong making it feel like a heavy trigger but one spring was installed wrong causing it to lift one of the secondary levers along with the sear. I thought that everyone was blowing smoke saying how good and light this trigger was. Well after figuring out the spring was installed wrong it turns out it is a fantastic trigger, even better than the 1701/ p-rod group.
Quote from: Gippeto on March 28, 2017, 04:01:22 AM
Was loaned an old .30cal air rifle to check out and see if it can be made useable. Have never seen anything like it before, no idea who made it. Not a Crosman, but easily worth a peek... 8) Will add todays pictures/work later tonight.
http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/library/Old%2030%20cal%20airgun
Al
Any answers as to it's origin yet ???
No. :( Popular opinion thus far is a well skilled individual..ie home build.
New delrin seals are "almost" holding at 120psi, will finish the fill adapter tonight and see if it seals at higher pressure.
Al
Edit;
Fill adapter... 11x1mm to foster, flanged seal from teflon. Reservoir is resealed and holding 1000psi and no bubbles! 8) Couple more bits to make and it will bark once more. 8)
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Al
Started a new project - .177 Crosman MK II HPA to be a dedicated PFT gun in 'scoped' division.
Didn't like the idea of cutting dovetail rails into the thin frame casting, so made up a two-piece rail instead.
Not 100% done with rail yet (still have to bevel some edges & pretty her up some), but at least I got it fitted last night & made sure everything lines up like it should. Hopefully find time today to get it done.
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Quote from: HappyHunter on March 29, 2017, 12:58:38 PM
Started a new project - .177 Crosman MK II HPA to be a dedicated PFT gun in 'scoped' division.
Didn't like the idea of cutting dovetail rails into the thin frame casting, so made up a two-piece rail instead.
Not 100% done with rail yet (still have to bevel some edges & pretty her up some), but at least I got it fitted last night & made sure everything lines up like it should. Hopefully find time today to get it done.
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Looking good so far Todd :)
That is going to be nice. :-*
That does look good Todd, nice fit to the frame. :-*
Al
NICE work ... :-*
That's going to be a sweet shooter. I do like it. :-*
looks good ,that's similar to what I did Todd on my MK1 carbine
Thanks guys.... :-*
Still pretty green to machining, so everything is a (slow) learning experience...mistakes have (and will) been made. Takes me longer to figure out how to hold a part, set up and/or make jigs/holders than the actual machining of the part.... :o
Still a long ways off from Gipetto/Arkmaker/Ped quality, but I'll get there!
Finished rail (other than anodizing):
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Looking great so far Todd!
Thanks BigE! :-*
Great job!! Looks like a nice mating fit up.
For sure, nice job :-* :-* :-*
Great piece of craftsmanship there. Real professional quality work. :-*
I wonder what the production costs and retail prices would be if they built the Mk 1 or Mk2 today?
Considering the price of Umarex all metal revolvers approaching the 300 USD mark I suspect a reissue of the Mk 1 would be in that ball park.
Finally got the stock insert and forearm mounted on my 2250. Bought it off the GTA Hobbyist section. Now to add the riser!
Sharp looking Rich :-* :-* :-*
Sure is! I'm impressed w/the ingenuity and craftsmanship from all you people!!
Quick question- I'm trying to use the rear sight from a Chinese rifle, might be an Industry model unknown, but they're good enough for what I'm doing atm. Problem is, the 2400 front sight's too short to sight it in, but not by much. I was told the front sight for the 1701P might be taller than the front sight that comes on a 18" barreled 2400KT. Can anyone confirm this? It's not that I doubt the person that told me, but my question might not have been clear enough.
PM me your address and I'll send you a 760 front sight. I have a few and no real need. It is definitely higher that the 2240 front sight. And the price is right $0.00 ;)
I like the look of that! :-* :-*
Adding the riser will be the icing on the cake... 8)
Quote from: BillK on April 04, 2017, 02:48:17 AM
PM me your address and I'll send you a 760 front sight. I have a few and no real need. It is definitely higher that the 2240 front sight. And the price is right $0.00 ;)
That's a very generous offer, thank you!
Quote from: cobalt327 on April 04, 2017, 04:29:35 AM
That's a very generous offer, thank you!
@BillK After a week and a half of playing mail tag w/the USPS, the sight you sent me is finally here! They wanted a couple pence more for postage, I gave that to them in the envelope they provided. Couple days later I get the envelope back w/o money but w/the same form they originally sent. My fault for not filling it out along w/printing my name
and signing it, and checking several boxes for preference of delivery days, etc. What a hassle for something that should have been a done deal at day one.
The sight will be installed soon, I'll post some photos. The gun is now using a red dot and the sight I'm going to use on it is now on my Daisy 499, of all things. But I want to try a red dot on the 499, so when I get the time I'll swap things around and see what the results are.
Thanks again, I really appreciate it!
Mark
Glad you got it & sorry for shorting the postage. Sure didn't mean to do that to ya. :-[
That was nothing at all, more of an inconvenience caused by the USPS red tape. The sight's cool, though. Can't wait!
The 357 phase one revolver I resealed is now working just fine.
There was a slight very slow seepage at first but that corrected itself after several shooting sessions on uncommonly warm days.
From now on when I reseal a CO2 gun I'll be sure all the metal parts are warm to help it establish a gas tight seal.
I got more than 70 accurate shots from one cylinder even after leaving the gun alone for several hours half way through the shooting session.
The main spring seems very weak to me, and while velocity is fair I suppose I'm going to try to increase the spring tension to try for higher velocity and hopefully more accuracy when using pellets. As is I don't think the pellet skirts are sealing to the rifling very well.
Accuracy seems better, and certainly more consistent when using BBs.
I have four six round BB cylinders so that's no biggie. The action operates more smoothly and locks up more precisely when using the six shot cylinders.
I have two of these 357 revolvers, I'll finish up the other one later on.
1740 10" new build.
Started with a new 2240 and sent from there. Still needs a LDC or MB. Shot 2 carts over chrony yesterday. As it is, I'm getting an average of 500 fps over 35 shots using Winchester RN 9.7 grain pellets. Would like it to read 45 shots even if I have to give up 10-15 fps and to flaten the curve a little bit. Still need to burn through a few more carts to find the right pellet. The Winchesters group pretty good, but the RWS Diabolo Basic's show promise also. Well, it is a start.....
Safety chain up top, but still need to add a strap to the bottom. Waitig on a digital scale and then I'm good to go for filling the 9 & 20 oz tanks and hopefully very soon the 88 gram tanks. Yes, I spray painted it camo green, in place and made a mess of it, but the sheet rock is set to go up and will cover up the mess on the framing ;-)
That is really cool Rich. Does this mean you will be doing some bulk fill conversions? ;)
Man cave, no problem-o. :-X
Maybe slide some insulation in behind it.
Yes on insulation. I've been talking about finishing off the inside for a while. I have the $, just need to hook up the trailer and buy the insulation and drywall. Been side tracked to many times.
Yes to BULK FILL!!!
I converted the Fusion over to bulk fill and have a 2240 with a 14" barrel that has one of the powerlet eliminators from GMAC in it, So there are two that I can shoot right away. I need to get with Mike Baker about a fittting for my 114 or one for the old C02 tank. Either way, it would be nice to shoot that again. And, I can always load up the Disco with gas, but I have it shooting just about right on HPA that I shyed away from the temptation. I saw over on the AA classified that there are some club Avanti 888's for sale. I am very tempted to grab one of them. I alway wanted one and I am not getting any younger :-)
I have been hard working on changing grips. Replaced some SC wood grips with some SC synthetic grips. Worked so hard I forgot to replace the CO2 tube cap. :-[
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Rebuilt repainted and re sealed the 38T junker I got off Ebay awhile back. just test fired it, it's accurate and doesn't leak, looks pretty good as well, very nice grips with no scratches. This is the one I picked up for a friend.
Tomorrow I plan to strip it down once more to give it a deep midnight blue paint job to try to mimic higher grade gun bluing.
The grip frame has some casting flaws which I need to fill in anyway.
An old trick for filling in small dings and dents without bondo is to take a spoonful of talcum powder and spray some paint into the cap of the can and mix both till its a creamy texture. Use this as filler. It does shrink a bit as it dries so it takes several applications. When finished just spray over it with the same paint.
Depends on how I feel later, it actually looks okay as is, a flat black outdoor enamel that resembles parkerized gun metal, like a military spec finish.
Quote from: BillK on July 07, 2017, 03:37:39 AM
I have been hard working on changing grips. Replaced some SC wood grips with some SC synthetic grips. Worked so hard I forgot to replace the CO2 tube cap. :-[
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IIRC when I saw those grips they were advertised as being pearl white. If my memory is correct, do they appear to be that when looking at them in person?
Those white grips really compliment the bright metal parts.
Ken, as to being Pearl White, I'm the wrong one to ask. White is white. Now that I look at them closely under some light there does appear to be a feint pearling to the grips. Being synthetic I would imagine that the next set would be a bit different.
I had been looking for a "different/unique" set of white grips for a polished 1377 build similar to one Trophyhunter had done a few years ago and these fit the bill. Now to make a white pump arm.
I just put them on the 1740 to see how they looked & get used to them.
The SC grips are a bit different from the RB grips or Vernons but they all feel well in hand.
I like how those white grips look too.
Finished up on the 38T I posted about earlier. it was having an indexing problem failing to catch the lifter on one cylinder. I de burred everything and oiled liberally with pellgun oil and it works just fine now.
A trick to remember when working with these guns. if the gun shoots far to one side loosen the set screw on top of the frame and rotate the barrel 90 degree more or less. If the problem is with the barrel itself rotating 90 degrees will make it shoot a little high or a little low instead of far off to one side.
Say the gun shoots far to your right and low. Turn the barrel clockwise , looking from the muzzle, and it then will shoot inline with the sight centered and perhaps a smidgeon higher.
I mounted a new trigger on my 2240. It took some work with a metal file to make it fit.
A while ago I asked Brutuz what kind of pellet trap he uses for the CAPOF targets. He advised me to get a wine case with two compartments, drink the wine and to stuff it with t-shirts. Instead of the t-shirts I used rubber anti-slip mats and foam to catch the pellet. The target slides in between the grooves.
Looks good! :-*
Well done :-*
Jappie, are you getting any ricochets/rebounds off the backing?
Nice work... looks to nice to put holes in it !!
oops. wrong spot.